Bertie giving lectures in Central America on the success of the Celtiic Tiger model.

Run_to_da_hills · 23-02-2009 10:58AM #1

According to the Irish Times on Saturday Berty O Ahern is currenty travelling Central America giving lectures on Irelands great economic success. With tickets being charged at $150, and “formal dress code” and cocktails were served after Senor Bertie’s speech. As if the state pension is not enough.

Irish Times wrote:

Governments in developing countries have been warned that a smooth-talking Irish charmer who tours the globe peddling the secrets of Ireland’s great economic success is a wanted man at home for running the country into the ground.

Former taoiseach Bertie Ahern and his mangy tiger were in Central America this week, delivering a keynote lecture to the Honduran National Business Council. It was entitled "The Celtic Tiger" The Irish Model of Development.

While meanwhile Back in Ireland, as politicians bickered while the economy spiralled further out of control; as the banking system went into meltdown and citizens took to the streets in protest, there was no sign of the man who took the nation from boom to bust, leaving others to deal with the resultant mess".

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2009/0221/1224241586161.html

Akrasia · 23-02-2009 11:15AM

Is Bertie Ahern not supposed to be a sitting td?
We're paying him a feckin fortune and he's not even bothering to do the job

Dannyboy83 · 23-02-2009 11:22AM

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Run_to_da_hills · 23-02-2009 11:30AM

I chased up the original article anyone with Spanish?

http://www.latribuna.hn/news/50/ARTICLE/57027/2009-02-21.html

http://www.latribuna.hn/news/49/ARTICLE/57056/2009-02-21.html

genericgoon · 23-02-2009 11:43AM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I chased up the original article anyone with Spanish?

http://www.latribuna.hn/news/50/ARTICLE/57027/2009-02-21.html

http://www.latribuna.hn/news/49/ARTICLE/57056/2009-02-21.html

Give it a whirl through google translate?

Macha · 23-02-2009 11:45AM

"Welcome to the distinguished Irish "conference-giver""

Businessmen, civil servents and members of the capital (ie city) society,came together on the 19th of Feb in the function froom of the Marriott Hotel of Tegucigalpa to drink a cocktail in honor of the ex-primte minister of Ireland (1997-2008), Patrick Bartholomew, better known as Bertie Ahern.

(puke at the fawning..)

During the three-day visit, the distinguished Irish speaker arrived in the country on the 18th of Feb to give a talk on "The Celtic Tiger": the Irish model of development" to members of the Honduran Council for Private Enterprise (aka COHEP).

During the address, Bertie Ahern discussed important themes of social interest.

The intention of COHEP is to invite figures like Mr. Ahern to be presented, as examples, of the processes that other countries have followed to remove themselves from poverty.

In his country, the professional (Ahern) acted under various political roles, including: Mayor of Dublin, Minister for enterprise & employment, minister for finance, leader of the political party Fianna Fail and president of the European Council..err Council of Europe.

Edit: meh, looks like Google can do it better and faster than I can.

Zynks · 23-02-2009 11:45AM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I chased up the original article anyone with Spanish?

http://www.latribuna.hn/news/50/ARTICLE/57027/2009-02-21.html

http://www.latribuna.hn/news/49/ARTICLE/57056/2009-02-21.html

The relevant bits on the first article:

EGUCIGALPA.-
El propósito del COHEP, es invitar a personalidades como el señor Ahern, a que expongan, con ejemplos, los procesos que han seguido otros países para salir de la pobreza.

En su país, el profesional fungió en diversos cargos políticos entre otros como: Alcalde de Dublín, ministro de trabajo, ministro de finanzas, líder del partido político Fianna Fail, y presidente del Consejo Europeo.

The purpose of COHEP is to invite figures like Mr. Ahern to present with examples processes followed by other countries to come out of poverty.

In his country he (Bertie) had several political roles such as: Mayor in Dublin, minister of work (ent. & employment), finance minister, leader of FF, and president of the european council.

Zynks · 23-02-2009 11:52AM

If nobody has done it by then, I wil translate the second one later. basically Bertie's case is being used to support the candidacy of the nationalist party candidate for president.

He seems to be proposing social partnership as the way forward and is commending the candidate for their national development plan.

Run_to_da_hills · 23-02-2009 12:24PM

Another one

http://www.latribuna.hn/news/49/ARTICLE/56939/2009-02-19.html

ejmaztec · 23-02-2009 12:40PM

I didn't know there was a comedy circuit in that part of the world. Surely his agent would know that his routine might get more laughs at Jongleurs.

diverdriver · 23-02-2009 12:45PM

Well, he should go down a bundle in South America. He comes from a mostly Catholic country, with lots of priests, gunmen and gangsters with massive unemployment, unrest and run by a barely incompetent, corrupt government riddled with croneyism and nepotism. A country where a tiny elite ensure they get richer at the expense of everyone else.

Sound just like a lot of South American countries. To top it all the man himself is implicated in corruption accusations. I wonder how much his bribe, sorry fee is. He should put it all on a horse, he's good at that apparently.

thomasj · 23-02-2009 12:57PM

Akrasia wrote: »

Is Bertie Ahern not supposed to be a sitting td?
We're paying him a feckin fortune and he's not even bothering to do the job

Throw in the news of berties 111.000 pension he received last year read that news on one of the papers over the weekend.

r0nanf · 23-02-2009 01:04PM

Smirking and jetting round the world on his lap of honour, makes me sick. I was in Honduras in January, and the last thing the poorest country in the western hemisphere needs is our blueprint for cronyism and corruption. Less like Celtic Tiger, more like Golden Calf.

Nodin · 23-02-2009 01:25PM

Not often I agree with Bob Geldof, but......

Banana Republic
Septic Isle
Screaming in the suffering sea
It sounds like crying
Everywhere I go
Everywhere I see
The black and blue uniforms
Police and priests

The purple and the pinstripe
Mutely shake their heads
A silence shrieking volumes
A violence worse than they condemn
Stab you in the back yeah
Laughing in your face
Glad to see the place again
It's a pity nothing's changed

http://www.lyricsdownload.com/boomtown-rats-banana-republic-lyrics.html

Macha · 23-02-2009 01:31PM

http://www.latribuna.hn/news/49/ARTICLE/56939/2009-02-19.html

The ex-prime minister of the Republic of Ireland, Bertie, met with the Liberal Party's presidential candidate, Elvin Santos, and with other leaders of the same party. The purpose of the meeting was the share their experiences in the "economic and social miracle" of his (Bertie's) country that, during the last few years, has reached the highest qualities of life.

During the meeting, the visitor, who comes from the Republican Praty of Ireland, expressed to the liberal leaders, how Ireland used to be one of the poorest nations in Europe but achieved a fundamental change, based on a social pact that brought about 5 large national agreements.

He continued with details that these agreements consisted of a programme of national recovery, a programme for social and economic progress, a programme for competitiveness and work, a pact for inclusion, employment and equity and finally a programme for properity and equality among Irish people

ejmaztec · 23-02-2009 01:42PM

taconnol wrote: »

http://www.latribuna.hn/news/49/ARTICLE/56939/2009-02-19.html

The ex-prime minister of the Republic of Ireland, Bertie, met with the Liberal Party's presidential candidate, Elvin Santos, and with other leaders of the same party. The purpose of the meeting was the share their experiences in the "economic and social miracle" of his (Bertie's) country that, during the last few years, has reached the highest qualities of life.

During the meeting, the visitor, who comes from the Republican Praty of Ireland, expressed to the liberal leaders, how Ireland used to be one of the poorest nations in Europe but achieved a fundamental change, based on a social pact that brought about 5 large national agreements.

He continued with details that these agreements consisted of a programme of national recovery, a programme for social and economic progress, a programme for competitiveness and work, a pact for inclusion, employment and equity and finally a programme for properity and equality among Irish people

They've obviously missed the last paragraph from his recipe for success, the one that discusses the shape of pears.

yoshytoshy · 23-02-2009 01:49PM

Bertie couldn't pocket the money though ,could he ?
Surely we pay for the flights and stuff like that.

diverdriver · 23-02-2009 03:44PM

They've obviously missed the last paragraph from his recipe for success, the one that discusses the shape of pears.

No, the last paragraph would have described the later off the record meeting where Bertie explained how to convince 'friends' to give you 'dig outs' and later he held a Cheltenham Preview Night where he outlined his foolproof money making tips for the festival.

ascanbe · 25-02-2009 12:20AM

diverdriver wrote: »

Well, he should go down a bundle in South America. He comes from a mostly Catholic country, with lots of priests, gunmen and gangsters with massive unemployment, unrest and run by a barely incompetent, corrupt government riddled with croneyism and nepotism. A country where a tiny elite ensure they get richer at the expense of everyone else.

Sound just like a lot of South American countries. To top it all the man himself is implicated in corruption accusations. I wonder how much his bribe, sorry fee is. He should put it all on a horse, he's good at that apparently.

One minor quibble. You describe our country as being run by 'a barely incompetent, corrupt government'. You give them far too little credit sir! They are completely and utterly incompetent.
Apart from that i believe your post to be spot on.;)

deadhead13 · 25-02-2009 11:17AM

As the man said himself, everything was fine while he was in charge - the gobs**t.

Perhaps he is spreading his own peculiar brand of socialism.

yoshytoshy · 25-02-2009 11:36AM

Wouldn't put it past bertie ,that he may have organised his own departure from fianna fail.

cute hur.

OhNoYouDidn't · 25-02-2009 11:57AM

Is this acceptible from a sitting TD? :mad: Is it even legal?

eoinbn · 25-02-2009 12:09PM

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

Is this acceptible from a sitting TD? :mad: Is it even legal?

:eek:

Anything goes in the land of FF.

lostexpectation · 26-02-2009 01:45AM

the us installed dictators, you didnt' like that and kicked them out, so do what we did and invite them in.

thebman · 26-02-2009 09:50AM

Can't we email them to warn them of what Bertie's plans lead to?

Erin Go Brath · 26-02-2009 01:58PM

Snakeoil salesman Ahern strikes again! How long do we have to put up with him tarnishing the whole political system? His position as Taoiseach became untenable, and he should be forced to leave his job as a TD aswell. Fannying around the other side of the world doing nixers when he should be representing the people of his constituency in the Dáil is an absolute disgrace. Bertie Ahern appears so corrupt he is beneath contempt at this stage.

LoveDucati2 · 26-02-2009 02:03PM

ascanbe wrote: »

One minor quibble. You describe our country as being run by 'a barely incompetent, corrupt government'. You give them far too little credit sir! They are completely and utterly incompetent.
Apart from that i believe your post to be spot on.;)

Brilliant

Hopefully he offends someone down there, and they use their usual skills at erasing people, best wishes Bert.

Money Shot · 26-02-2009 02:14PM

I can imagine his opening gambit ...

"Ha oído usted de una burbuja de propiedad?"

thebman · 26-02-2009 02:27PM

Opening statement, I have no bank account in your country I'm that poor, any chance of a dig out?

jmayo · 26-02-2009 02:36PM

I suppose it gives him a chance to wear that nice yellow jacket of his.

Perhaps they haven't heard how our economic miracle has worked out :rolleyes:

jmayo · 26-02-2009 02:39PM

Nodin wrote: »

Not often I agree with Bob Geldof, but......

http://www.lyricsdownload.com/boomtown-rats-banana-republic-lyrics.html

You do know we are, in fact ahh, the biggest banana exporter in Europe.

All thanks to Fyyfesand the crop from Belize.

serfboard · 26-02-2009 03:09PM

jmayo wrote: »

Perhaps they haven't heard how our economic miracle has worked out :rolleyes:

Presumably their cousins in "El Norte" did and that is why he is not getting his greatest wish of being asked to speak on the (formerly - not sure now) lucrative North American circuit about "Ireland's Economic Miracle". Of course he can still try and lug around the "I brought peace to Northern Ireland" mantle, to people who have not read this and this.

Bertie giving lectures in Central America on the success of the Celtiic Tiger model.

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