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What sport(s) do you hate?

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭Rebelheart


    American Football
    GAA - I fupin hate it!

    It's the crowd it draws more than anything!

    Yeah, unlike those charmers that travel around Europe following soccer, waving Union Jacks and starting riots. Lovely crowd of enlightened cosmopolitan souls indeed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 143 ✭✭Benhonan


    Rugby
    To reduce the honour of being the ranked as the best in the world at any sport to mere bragging rights is patently absurd. I mentioned the Olympics in my original post, and it is simply obtuse to argue that I am favouring sports like darts drafts and billiards. I appreciate the beauty of sport, but I also appreciate the incredible prestige associated with Irish Olympic gold medals, and I am saddened by the fact that this most glorious of sporting honours could visit our shores much more frequently if it weren't for the GAA and the amount of athletic ability which it takes from these endevours.

    Right, so now you've clarified things a bit - the pinnacle of sport is winning olympic medals. So, I will phrase this question again. Would you prefer to see Ireland win a host of medals at clay pigeon shooting, bridge, showjumping and dressage, than see the country produce teams which play amateur games for no money (epitomising the true values of sport, playing for the love of the game) to a very high standard. Hurling is considered one of the greatest spectacles in the world, even by neutrals who did not grow up playing it. Whereas winning gold medals for synchronised swimming is a bit ridiculous at the best of times. Measuring success in terms of podium positions and medal hauls devalues the intricacies of sport.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Basketball
    To compete at the very top level in any sport is so difficult as to be almost impossible. Perhaps we are doing irish paticipants a disservice for criticizing them for perceived lack of success at the very highest levels.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 143 ✭✭Benhonan


    Rugby
    orourkeda wrote: »
    Isnt it the essence of any sporting discipline for an individual or team to compete at the highest standard that their talent allows them to.
    Yeah I have no problem with that, but to say that this is worth more when taken to an international level rather than a domestic one smacks of elitism.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Basketball
    Benhonan wrote: »
    Right, so now you've clarified things a bit - the pinnacle of sport is winning olympic medals. So, I will phrase this question again. Would you prefer to see Ireland win a host of medals at clay pigeon shooting, bridge, showjumping and dressage, than see the country produce teams which play amateur games for no money (epitomising the true values of sport, playing for the love of the game) to a very high standard. Hurling is considered one of the greatest spectacles in the world, even by neutrals who did not grow up playing it. Whereas winning gold medals for synchronised swimming is a bit ridiculous at the best of times. Measuring success in terms of podium positions and medal hauls devalues the intricacies of sport.

    Whats the difference? Two sports people competing at the highest level. Just different sports.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭Rebelheart


    American Football
    but I think that GAA is a terrible drain on Irish sporting talent, and is a big part of the reason why Ireland constantly underachieves at events such as the Olympics. New Zealand, an island nation with a similar number of inhabitants to our own consistently produces teams and athletes who are more than capable of competing and indeed winning at an international level. Yes they recieve more funding than Irish sport and perhaps have a superiour gene pool when it comes to athletic performance, but unlike Ireland they do not have an anachronistic and insular national sport which takes the lion's share of the nations talent. Of course heritage and tradition are important, but not at the cost of international performance. That is why I loathe the GAA as an instituation.

    Oh f uck. I've read it all now. Will some Mammy collect her lost child (and give her some spelling lessons while she's at it)?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 143 ✭✭Benhonan


    Rugby
    orourkeda wrote: »
    Whats the difference? Two sports people competing at the highest level. Just different sports.
    So you agree then, and don't consider the GAA any less meaningful for being restricted (for the most part) to domestic competition? That was what the argument was about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 884 ✭✭✭ya-ba-da-ba-doo


    American Football
    I picked basketball just for the sake of it. Rugby is by far the best sport going though. Its as much a mind game as a physical game. Soccers become dominated by money and the gaa just doesnt have the edge. Still, i like most sports.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Basketball
    Benhonan wrote: »
    Yeah I have no problem with that, but to say that this is worth more when taken to an international level rather than a domestic one smacks of elitism.

    It's not really a fair comparison. If Gaelic games were played worldwide wouldnt it make sense for the best irish exponents to compete on an international level if they were good enough to do so.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Basketball
    Benhonan wrote: »
    So you agree then, and don't consider the GAA any less meaningful for being restricted (for the most part) to domestic competition? That was what the argument was about.

    Sports is sport to me. Whether domestic or international is irrelevant to me. However, I was never good enough at any game to consider playing it for a living. If I was perhaps my outlook would change.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 166 ✭✭SarahChambers


    Hurling
    Benhonan wrote: »
    Right, so now you've clarified things a bit - the pinnacle of sport is winning olympic medals. So, I will phrase this question again. Would you prefer to see Ireland win a host of medals at clay pigeon shooting, bridge, showjumping and dressage, than see the country produce teams which play amateur games for no money (epitomising the true values of sport, playing for the love of the game) to a very high standard. Hurling is considered one of the greatest spectacles in the world, even by neutrals who did not grow up playing it. Whereas winning gold medals for synchronised swimming is a bit ridiculous at the best of times. Measuring success in terms of podium positions and medal hauls devalues the intricacies of sport.

    You are descending to farce as you continue to avoid to thrust of my point by continuing to mention only sports like clay pigeon shooting and equestrian. It is a not only a childish tactic, but an illogical one. How can these sports mentioned benefit by an increase in athletes who have the kind of attributes a GAA player general holds. I will spell it out for you if it is necessary. GAA players are suited to sports like track and field, swimming, rowing, kayaking, cycling, anything which requires physical prowess. And yes I consider gold medals in the kind of sports which GAA players are suited to the ultimate glory, far more important that local rivalries and victories in GAA.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭Rebelheart


    American Football
    I hate the GAA as an entity. GAA sports should only ever be played at a minor level and then anyone with athletic potential should move on to real international sports.

    Jesus. The comedians are out today. Could you all please put your ages after your posts and preferably mention how you got the computer password. Thanks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 143 ✭✭Benhonan


    Rugby
    I picked basketball just for the sake of it. Rugby is by far the best sport going though. Its as much a mind game as a physical game. Soccers become dominated by money and the gaa just doesnt have the edge. Still, i like most sports.
    Huh. Basketball is the most tactically advanced game in the world, barring maybe American Football. Americans have always been light years ahead of the rest of the world in terms of elite coaching, tactically in particular. Just ask Eddie O'Sullivan, he learned a lot from his time as a basketball coach.
    orourkeda wrote: »
    It's not really a fair comparison. If Gaelic games were played worldwide wouldnt it make sense for the best irish exponents to compete on an international level if they were good enough to do so.
    Yeah. there is the international rules series. If they were played internationally then great, of course our best players would play. It doesn't devalue the sport in the least that they're not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 218 ✭✭murraymarmalade


    looked at the list and cant say i HATE any listed.love hurling though! on the banner u-21s sat v galway;)


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,946 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    Rebelheart wrote: »
    Oh f uck. I've read it all now. Will some Mammy collect her lost child (and give her some spelling lessons while she's at it)?
    Rebelheart wrote: »
    Jesus. The comedians are out today. Could you all please put your ages after your posts and preferably mention how you got the computer password. Thanks.

    If you have nothing but digs to contribute to this thread then do not contribute at all. That goes for the rest of you. Attack the post and not the poster. Fair warning.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 143 ✭✭Benhonan


    Rugby
    You are descending to farce as you continue to avoid to thrust of my point by continuing to mention only sports like clay pigeon shooting and equestrian. It is a not only a childish tactic, but an illogical one. How can these sports mentioned benefit by an increase in athletes who have the kind of attributes a GAA player general holds. I will spell it out for you if it is necessary. GAA players are suited to sports like track and field, swimming, rowing, kayaking, cycling, anything which requires physical prowess. And yes I consider gold medals in the kind of sports which GAA players are suited to the ultimate glory, far more important that local rivalries and victories in GAA.
    You're right. It's hugely irresponsible and selfish of GAA players to go and play a game they love which brings pride to their families and their homeland, when they could be out bringing glory to people who have no capacity to appreciate these games, but reckon that a few gold medals in popular sports would look good.

    Having a sports discussion without someone who clearly cannot appreciate the aesthetic beauty inherent in sports is a farce to begin with, so it didn't have to descend at all. Hell, I personally can't stand soccer, but I have huge respect for those who passionately play and support the game, and I can appreciate exactly how they feel.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 642 ✭✭✭Kalashnikov_Kid


    Hurling
    I picked bogball - I'm not convinced that it's a particular skillful sport, although I'd admit that the fitness levels of some intercounty players would put many professional sportsmen to shame! I've heard of some vomit-inducing training regimes that apparently originated from the Armagh senior team.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 166 ✭✭SarahChambers


    Hurling
    Benhonan wrote: »
    You're right. It's hugely irresponsible and selfish of GAA players to go and play a game they love which brings pride to their families and their homeland, when they could be out bringing glory to people who have no capacity to appreciate these games, but reckon that a few gold medals in popular sports would look good.

    Having a sports discussion without someone who clearly cannot appreciate the aesthetic beauty inherent in sports is a farce to begin with, so it didn't have to descend at all. Hell, I personally can't stand soccer, but I have huge respect for those who passionately play and support the game, and I can appreciate exactly how they feel.

    Funny, your last line is something akin to the first line of my first post. Understand before you critique, it will serve you well.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭Rebelheart


    American Football
    real_red wrote: »
    And i dispise people who call football "soccer" :mad:

    I don't know anybody who calls football "soccer". I know a lot of people who call Association Football "soccer" - in fact, most of the English-speaking world call Association Football "soccer". Ever hear of the United States?
    It tends to be British nationalists who get really upset when soccer is called, well, soccer. See the discussion on this article for more of this nationalist outrage: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football. Nice to know which side you're on, Real_Red.


    Soccer is simply a polite name for what is historically known in Ireland as the garrison game.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,272 ✭✭✭✭Max Power1


    Basketball
    I hate cricket, horse racing, tennis and golf.

    Because they are snooze inducing.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭Rebelheart


    American Football
    baztard wrote: »
    So basically your saying New Zealand have a better rugby team than Ireland... and its the GAA's fault!!!!!

    You've got some chip on your shoulder!

    Well said. I can't believe there are so many complete and utter space cadets still around.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,946 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    Rebelheart wrote: »
    Well said. I can't believe there are so many complete and utter space cadets still around.

    You are now banned from this thread. Post again and I will ban you from AH.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Hazys


    Rugby
    I dont really hate any sport because i think any sport i play i enjoy...

    But to sit down and watch an average game of certain sports would drive me to tears like the English Premiership (top 4 has been the same for how many years now? and its driven by money) and Gaelic Football (god its v talentless and boring).

    My sports: 1 American Football 2 Rugby 3 Baseball


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Basketball
    Domo230 wrote: »
    Cant believe golf isnt on the list.

    Actually better it isnt as its not a proper sport.

    Why is it not a proper sport? It's about as true a test of skill as there is


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭TanG411


    American Football
    The only sports I loke on that poll are horse riding, tennis and soccer.

    Can't stand the rest of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,555 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    Gaelic Football
    For me, it's horse racing, can't stand it tbh.

    It just represents greedy owners and leads to punters losing money to bookies, and it's boring as paint drying too!

    Rugby is just awesome, but I suppose you guessed this from my username.

    Edit: Add anything to the poll I forget.

    ****, forgot golf


    Misinformed poster is misinformed.

    Its like football. The best or top elite are rich. But the masses involved are like the rest of us. There are thousands of ordinary joe soaps that own or part own race horses.. that never participate in elite events.. that been said.. yes, i hate the "sport" its as about as interesting as watching flies eat sh1t.

    Rugby ftw


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 143 ✭✭Benhonan


    Rugby
    Funny, your last line is something akin to the first line of my first post. Understand before you critique, it will serve you well.

    Slightly similar yes. Still it wasn't that one line that I had the issue with. I don't see what I'm not understanding. You made a series of comments which I took issue with, and resorted to thinly veiled slurs when it was clear that you couldn't back them up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,555 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    Gaelic Football
    If you have nothing but digs to contribute to this thread then do not contribute at all. That goes for the rest of you. Attack the post and not the poster. Fair warning.


    personally i prefer terrys hangover moderation which involves multi quotes followed by a simple "STFU"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 143 ✭✭Benhonan


    Rugby
    orourkeda wrote: »
    If this highlighted statement is true why does it needs more funding through public funding. I hate to be harsh or cynical but it's a sporting organisation not a charity.
    I'm pretty sure he was highlighting the ethos of the GAA, not it's economic worth. There are a lot of people on this thread who care hugely about the worth of things but cannot even comprehend their value.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭baztard


    orourkeda wrote: »
    If this highlighted statement is true why does it needs more funding through public funding. I hate to be harsh or cynical but it's a sporting organisation not a charity.

    I think if you ask yourself the question, why should it get any less?, you'll have an answer to your original question.

    If a non profit sporting organisation does some extra fundraising through raffles or voulenteering or whatever, they should not lose the government grants that they receive.

    And its not just the GAA i'm talking about here, just about every club of every sport around the country do some private fundraising no doubt.


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