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Incident I was involved in Last Night

  • 02-11-2009 05:19PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 155 ✭✭


    Well Folks,

    I have a question for you, I was travelling outside Tullamore last night when I went around a corner and hit a rather large deer, I collided with it. The deer was badly injured, so was the car.

    I called AGS in Tullamore and they came out to me, we shifted it off the road into a nearby field, it was still alive. The Guards who came to me said they would organise a Vet to put down the animal. They only asked my name and tel. no. and said I could go ahead after we had a good look at the car.

    Am I responsible for the costs of the Vet (please understand I dont mind if I am resp for the costs, as long as no one was injured is more important)

    What is the normal procedure if a member of the public is involved in an incident like this.

    Also a Big Thanks to the Traffic Corp in Tullamore, they helped me out big time:D


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,249 ✭✭✭DubMedic


    Hopefully, it doesn't cost you deerly to repair the car etc.

    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 373 ✭✭emanresu


    No, you are not responsible for the vet costs.
    In this case it was a wild animal, but if it had been a cow or farm animal the owner of the animal would be responsible for the costs of damage to your car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 155 ✭✭Sisu200


    DubMedic wrote: »
    Hopefully, it doesn't cost you deerly to repair the car etc.

    .
    The car is the last on my mind, getting an estimate today, I was a bit annoyed about the animal, I am not a hard driver, and had avoided 2 of his comrades in the same incident, unreal stuff, it was more shock than anything, I have never been in a situation like that before

    PS I like the Pun


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 401 ✭✭culabula88


    where did the accident happen . was it on the new bypass?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 340 ✭✭ivabiggon


    *warning GRAPHIC*

    http://simongreen.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/faildeer.jpg

    could have been worse
    this fella in the bmw was travelling so fast on the auto bahn that the deer blended into his engine block


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭Hooch


    As above you are not liable for the vets costs. The state will cover it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 340 ✭✭ivabiggon


    does that apply to the damage to a vehicle as well, or god forbid if there was a more serious incident i.e loss of life or serious injury or car write off


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,004 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    The incidence of Deer Strikes appears to be significantly higher this year for some reason.
    I have had two close call on the Motorbike :eek: and I know of people who have had more than one thump with a Bambi in a short space of time.

    It may have something to do with the rutting season or perhaps it`s the result of fewer hunters able to meet the Firearms regs ?


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,933 Mod ✭✭✭✭Turner


    ivabiggon wrote: »
    does that apply to the damage to a vehicle as well, or god forbid if there was a more serious incident i.e loss of life or serious injury or car write off

    Contact your insurance company or the Motor Insurance Bureau of Ireland.

    One of them will pay for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,938 ✭✭✭deadwood


    Chief--- wrote: »
    One of them will pay for it.
    ...if they have the doe.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 103 ✭✭Smokey Bear


    This thread is stuck in a rutt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 417 ✭✭the locust


    shouldn't be too deer just a buck or two...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭Hooch


    Chief--- wrote: »
    Contact your insurance company or the Motor Insurance Bureau of Ireland.

    One of them will pay for it.

    Insurance company only i'd say chief, dont MIBI only cover you for a collision with an uninsured or un identified vehicle?? (I may be wrong)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,777 ✭✭✭meathstevie


    OP, you're lucky. Plenty of people who've crashed with deer on a motorbike or in their car haven't lived to tell the story. Just in general folks, at this time of the year deer go a bit horny ( another silly pun sorry ) and do a good bit of wandering around looking for some action. So if you travel through areas where there's deer about - and that's just about anywhere in Ireland nowadays - take it handy at night because they're not easily spotted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭Trojan911


    Just to add to meathstevies post, the rut should be, if not already at an end, coming to the end. Stags are exhausted and not focused at this time of the year.

    If you are driving at night and one is stationary in the middle of the road then dip your lights and sound your horn as you are slowing to avoid him. They will move fast enough then as they react faster to noise. Full beams will only dazzle them & they will rarely react.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 155 ✭✭Sisu200


    culabula88 wrote: »
    where did the accident happen . was it on the new bypass?
    It happened just before the loading point for the peat, between Killeigh and Tullamore


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,712 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Just for info: The proper technique (in a car) when you are suddenly confronted with a large animal on the road and know you cannot avoid hitting it (as told to me years ago by a friend who is a member):

    Don't hit it while your brakes are still applied - the front of the car will be lowered, and there is a grave risk that the animal will come over the bonnet and through the windscreen, possibly resulting in serious injury or death to occupants. What you should do is lift off the brakes and floor the throttle just before impact, as the front will lift and there is much less chance of the above occurring. I've always remembered that one - never had to put it into practice though. :eek:

    Edit: Pics
    http://www.micom.net/oops/Deer%20vs%20Durango.jpg
    http://www.micom.net/oops/Deer%20vs%20Durango2.jpg

    Warning: above photos are graphic

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,655 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    AlekSmart wrote: »
    The incidence of Deer Strikes appears to be significantly higher this year for some reason.
    Deer numbers are up because hunters are taking the stags (for antlers) instead of the does. Of course, this suits the remaining stags as they then get to have more does. The net effect is the same number of fawns next year.

    Contrast with mallard where the ducks have been targetted hard and you now get 2-3 drakes per duck and overall numbers are down.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 640 ✭✭✭King Ludvig


    esel wrote: »
    Just for info: The proper technique (in a car) when you are suddenly confronted with a large animal on the road and know you cannot avoid hitting it (as told to me years ago by a friend who is a member):

    Don't hit it while your brakes are still applied - the front of the car will be lowered, and there is a grave risk that the animal will come over the bonnet and through the windscreen, possibly resulting in serious injury or death to occupants. What you should do is lift off the brakes and floor the throttle just before impact, as the front will lift and there is much less chance of the above occurring. I've always remembered that one - never had to put it into practice though. :eek:

    Edit: Pics
    http://www.micom.net/oops/Deer%20vs%20Durango.jpg
    http://www.micom.net/oops/Deer%20vs%20Durango2.jpg

    Warning: above photos are graphic


    Mythbusters busted that!!:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,712 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Mythbusters busted that!!:D
    They may have busted the pics (the extensive roof damage and lack of frontal damage do look dodgy....), but the driving technique I outlined does hold water.

    Not your ornery onager



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,938 ✭✭✭deadwood


    esel wrote: »
    Just for info: The proper technique (in a car) when you are suddenly confronted with a large animal on the road and know you cannot avoid hitting it ...

    Just say "hello guard, what seems to be the problem?"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭Trojan911


    Victor wrote: »
    Deer numbers are up because hunters are taking the stags (for antlers) instead of the does.

    Just to point out, this hunter takes the meat and avoids shooting stags, as do all my shooting partners this time of the year, because the stag is ruined from the rut (lean & exhausted, disorientated and damaged antlers from fighting does not make for good meat or trophies). Stags are best shot just before the rut (unless you are trophy hunting).

    Spikers (young male deer) are the way forward here. The hinds (females) season only opened on the 1st of Nov, and I, and many others will be concentrating on them and spikers untill the end of their prospective seasons.

    Anyway, back on topic.......

    The theory on accelerating to aviod throwing a deer onto the car is probably not a bad idea. I see the logic behind it.

    Hopefully I will never have to do it.... :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 640 ✭✭✭King Ludvig


    esel wrote: »
    They may have busted the pics (the extensive roof damage and lack of frontal damage do look dodgy....), but the driving technique I outlined does hold water.

    How do you know? You said you've never had to try it! (thankfully)

    Anyway, no it was the technique itself they busted.

    End of the day, lets just hope none of us have to learn the hard way which techique works best!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,102 ✭✭✭✭Drummerboy08


    I nearly had this experience last night - N11 Northbound at the Glen of the Downs. Little fcuker ran out under me. Managed to avoid it, but thank god for good tyres and clean underpants! :o

    Seems to be lots of deer around that area at the minute. Are there any signs on the road warning of wildlife?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I nearly had this experience last night - N11 Northbound at the Glen of the Downs. Little fcuker ran out under me. Managed to avoid it, but thank god for good tyres and clean underpants! :o

    Seems to be lots of deer around that area at the minute. Are there any signs on the road warning of wildlife?

    If I remember correctly there is. I always hope to see some deer when I see the signs. (Not running out in front of me though).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭Leo Demidov


    Seems to be lots of deer around that area at the minute. Are there any signs on the road warning of wildlife?

    Skidmarks?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭Hooch


    wexfjord wrote: »
    Skidmarks?

    Are you refering to the ones on the road....or in his pants:pac::D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,084 ✭✭✭eroo


    Just in general folks, at this time of the year deer go a bit horny ( another silly pun sorry ) and do a good bit of wandering around looking for some action. So if you travel through areas where there's deer about - and that's just about anywhere in Ireland nowadays - take it handy at night because they're not easily spotted.

    And if they spot you.. your fecked - literally!:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,777 ✭✭✭meathstevie


    eroo wrote: »
    And if they spot you.. your fecked - literally!:eek:

    Like the lad in Antrim or Armagh a while ago....stag nearly killed him trampling and sticking the antlers in.

    To the person who came up with the theory about accelerating etc..whenever you think you're going to hit something quite big and quite solid and you see no option to avoid it bleed away as much speed as you can breaking, shifting down gears etc. And if you realy have your wits about you pull your arms close to your sides with your upper arms covering your face just before impact if you can. In that way you provide extra cover for the vitals contained in your ribcage and you might prevent the airbag hitting you full blast in the face as well.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭Leo Demidov


    Are you refering to the ones on the road....or in his pants:pac::D

    Lowest common denominator.

    I expected more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,712 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    More than skidmarks?

    Not your ornery onager



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