Will you still go to mass on sunday?

pathway33 · 26-11-2009 06:27PM #1

With the report of the cover up by the Catholic Church released today will you think twice about going to mass on sunday?

It sickens me to think that I will go and be part of this organisation but for a quite life I will go anyway. I should be ashamed of myself

26-11-2009 06:29PM

Makes no differnce to me, don't go to mass as it is.

itsallaboutheL · 26-11-2009 06:29PM

pathway33 wrote: »

With the report of the cover up by the Catholic Church released today will you think twice about going to mass on sunday?

It sickens me to think that I will go and be part of this organisation but for a quite life I will go anyway. I should be ashamed of myself

Are you the Pope?

omahaid · 26-11-2009 06:29PM

I think the Roman Catholic Church should be outlawed, so no, I wont be going to mass.

brummytom · 26-11-2009 06:30PM

Yes I will.

In the same way I'd visit Germany, take a tour of Parliament or look around the site of the Boston Tea Party.

Things happened in the past. Terrible, despicable, inexcusable things. But that was the past. It has no place in the present.

The church of the time should be ridiculed for what happened, but not, per se, the church of today.

I understand the majority of posters here won't agree, but it's just my opinion

Ruu_Old · 26-11-2009 06:31PM

I haven't gone to mass in at least 10 years, report makes no difference, we knew for a long time that this sort of thing was going on just not in so much detail I suppose.

rossie1977 · 26-11-2009 06:32PM

i am a scientologist

all hail the mighty Xenu

Midnight_EG · 26-11-2009 06:32PM

pathway33 wrote: »

With the report of the cover up by the Catholic Church released today will you think twice about going to mass on sunday?

It sickens me to think that I will go and be part of this organisation but for a quite life I will go anyway. I should be ashamed of myself

Wife or a priest, which'd you rather fuck after reading this story

arybvtcw0eolkf · 26-11-2009 06:33PM

I've recently returned to attending mass, yes I'll still be going.

smcgiff · 26-11-2009 06:34PM

brummytom wrote: »

The church of the time should be ridiculed for what happened, but not, per se, the church of today.

You're assuming the current crop are doing no wrong. I suppose that's possibly true, but I doubt it.

krudler · 26-11-2009 06:34PM

brummytom wrote: »

Yes I will.

In the same way I'd visit Germany, take a tour of Parliament or look around the site of the Boston Tea Party.

Things happened in the past. Terrible, despicable, inexcusable things. But that was the past. It has no place in the present.

The church of the time should be ridiculed for what happened, but not, per se, the church of today.

I understand the majority of posters here won't agree, but it's just my opinion

Are all the rapists gone then? I suppose all those people who were abused should just accept the fact that its in the past and stop whinging about being raped, sure that has no place in the present

what a ****ing idiotic statement

InKonspikuou2 · 26-11-2009 06:34PM

If i'll still go to the US i'll still go to mass.

SV · 26-11-2009 06:34PM

No I won't be. Haven't been since I was 11.

I'm also quite annoyed at my parents(and other parents who do it today) that just raise their children as Catholic and tell them that's the truth. Let them make up their own mind when they're old enough ffs.

bitemybanger · 26-11-2009 06:35PM

Apart from a funeral, wedding or Christening i have not been to mass in about ten years.

Dinner · 26-11-2009 06:36PM

I don't go to mass anyway, so no.

But if I did regularily go then this would have no affect on whether I would go on Sunday or not. Chances are your local priest is going to be equally as disgusted by the report as you are. He'll more than likely be embarrassed to be a member of an institution that could cover up such things.

If you believe in god (or don't but want a quiet life) then go. If you don't believe in god then don't go. Every single person in your church on Sunday will be equally as disgusted, including the one in the robe.

segaBOY · 26-11-2009 06:36PM

Don't go to mass but you can't tar a whole organisation on the actions of a few individuals. There are plenty of good honest priests out there who do a lot of good work in the community.

After all the Catholic Church educated and ran hospitals for most of the country when the State wasn't up to the task.

GLaDOS · 26-11-2009 06:38PM

Havent been to a non-ceremonial mass (weddings etc) in several years, so no

It sickens me to think that I will go and be part of this organisation but for a quite life I will go anyway. I should be ashamed of myself

Who's forcing you to go?? The days of going to mass so the neighbours won't talk are long gone

DazMarz · 26-11-2009 06:39PM

I haven't been to mass in ages, and don't make it a habit either. Weddings, funerals, etc. That be about it

dubtom · 26-11-2009 06:39PM

pathway33 wrote: »

With the report of the cover up by the Catholic Church released today will you think twice about going to mass on sunday?

It sickens me to think that I will go and be part of this organisation but for a quite life I will go anyway. I should be ashamed of myself

I haven't gone in years. The quite life from who OP?? I was forced as a kid to go every Sunday and TBH I thought that kind of thing was in the past,most parents in touch with reality would let their children make their own decisions about what they believe or whether they go to church, I certainly would.I thought the days of the ole catholic guilt were over.

G_R · 26-11-2009 06:41PM

and miss my Sunday lie-in!!!
are you joking, its the only lie-in day I have

brummytom · 26-11-2009 06:42PM

krudler wrote: »

Are all the rapists gone then? I suppose all those people who were abused should just accept the fact that its in the past and stop whinging about being raped, sure that has no place in the present

what a ****ing idiotic statement

How am I to know if "all the rapists are gone"? I doubt the vast majority of sexual criminals are caught; I don't hate society because of it.

I'm not saying we should forget about it and sweep it under the carpet - people should be outraged, horrible acts were committed.
I'm just saying that the actions of the church in the past should not be used as a benchmark against which to judge the present-day church.

As I said though, that's just my opinion

My name is URL · 26-11-2009 06:42PM

No

But if I was religious I'd still go regardless of the report, same way I'd still go to the Gardai should I need them, even though they assisted in covering up the abuse back then

philologos · 26-11-2009 06:42PM

In before the Catholic bashing

26-11-2009 06:43PM

to listen to a hypocrite tell lies? no thanks.

RMD · 26-11-2009 06:43PM

smcgiff wrote: »

You're assuming the current crop are doing no wrong. I suppose that's possibly true, but I doubt it.

In todays law and compensation fascinated world while the Catholic church no longer pulls the strings in the government, if a similar scandal was occuring I'd put money on it that it would be found out within days of it happening.

itsallaboutheL · 26-11-2009 06:44PM

segaBOY wrote: »

After all the Catholic Church educated and ran hospitals for most of the country when the State wasn't up to the task.

LOL

Take it to History or Politics and see what happens when you say that

smcgiff · 26-11-2009 06:45PM

segaBOY wrote: »

a few individuals.

It was/is a lot more than a few individuals. I would suggest endemic, not to mention the large number of the hierarchy that covered it up.

St James · 26-11-2009 06:45PM

Reclaim YOUR church. Keep attending the services, change from within. If the perverts spent their time praying, they would not have had the time for preying.

There are many good priests and Catholics out there, who are saddened and disgusted with what went on as well as the cover up attempts.

We all need prayer at this time.

smcgiff · 26-11-2009 06:47PM

RMD wrote: »

In todays law and compensation fascinated world while the Catholic church no longer pulls the strings in the government, if a similar scandal was occuring I'd put money on it that it would be found out within days of it happening.

It's exactly this kind of thinking - it could never happen! - that caused in the first place! :rolleyes:

Asmodean · 26-11-2009 06:48PM

I find I can live a happy and successful life without the fairy tales so no, still won't bother going.

funk-you · 26-11-2009 06:48PM

Still?

-Funk

laugh · 26-11-2009 06:48PM

segaBOY wrote: »

After all the Catholic Church educated and ran hospitals for most of the country when the State wasn't up to the task.

I'd rather be illiterate, than have someone stick their penis in my ass against my will.

Latchy · 26-11-2009 06:48PM

segaBOY wrote: »

After all the Catholic Church educated and ran hospitals for most of the country when the State wasn't up to the task.

We not talking about the good the church has done in the past ,it's about the evil still existing in it's midst with a system that alowed it's employess ie, priests to abuse children for many many decades , without fear of being caught and exposed.It's not about the past , it's about Now
.

segaBOY · 26-11-2009 06:49PM

itsallaboutheL wrote: »

LOL

Take it to History or Politics and see what happens when you say that

No I'll keep it AH. Perhaps you could make a formulated response to counteract my statement.

The Catholic Church did (and still do) run many of Ireland's schools. A lot of hospitals are still in the hands of the church too.

LOL

SV · 26-11-2009 06:50PM

St James wrote: »

We all need prayer at this time.

You need a hell of a lot more than that.

philologos · 26-11-2009 06:51PM

Asmodean wrote: »

I find I can live a happy and successful life without the fairy tales so no, still won't bother going.

What makes you think Christianity involves any more "fairy tales" than your own position?

What you're saying is effectively nothing more than a faith statement.

segaBOY · 26-11-2009 06:52PM

laugh wrote: »

I'd rather be illiterate, than have someone stick their penis in my ass against my will.

There is a large possibility that if you were educated in Ireland you attended a primary or secondary school that the church had a role in managing.

But your comment is humourous.

Wazdakka · 26-11-2009 06:53PM

brummytom wrote: »

Yes I will.

In the same way I'd visit Germany, take a tour of Parliament or look around the site of the Boston Tea Party.

Things happened in the past. Terrible, despicable, inexcusable things. But that was the past. It has no place in the present.

The church of the time should be ridiculed for what happened, but not, per se, the church of today.

I understand the majority of posters here won't agree, but it's just my opinion

Brummy I actually have to keep reminding myself that you're only 16..
:eek:

AnonoBoy · 26-11-2009 06:55PM

I stopped going in the 90's when I was old enough to realise that an organisation that was systematically raping and abusing children and covering it up had no place telling me what was moral or immoral.

philologos · 26-11-2009 06:55PM

Wazdakka wrote: »

Brummy I actually have to keep reminding myself that you're only 16..
:eek:

In retrospect, a lot of brummytom's views despite his age are incredibly mature in comparison to many of the other posts made by people much older than he is.

Wazdakka · 26-11-2009 06:57PM

Jakkass wrote: »

In retrospect, a lot of brummytom's views despite his age are incredibly mature in comparison to many of the other posts made by people much older than he is.

Twas my point.

someoneok · 26-11-2009 06:58PM

No mass is out for me.Interestingly has anyone seen jbyeats channel on youtube where he goes into the church scandal? He is just an average joe but he has some good points in some of his videos. No holes barred.

myflipflops · 26-11-2009 06:58PM

I'd consider returning if the church admitted fully their culpability in the abuse disgrace as well as the attempts to cover it up and protect those criminals who were guilty of some of the worst crimes in the history of the state.

They also need to fully commit to paying compensation to the people whose lives were ruined while in the care of the Catholic church.

Finally, as an organisation they need to be proactive in changing many of the outdated rules that have no real place in society, some of which were the root causes of the whole abuse scenario e.g. removing compulsary celibacy for priests/nuns, allowing women to become priests and higher, allowing marriage amongst the clergy etc etc.

If they do this, I'd consider returning because I have nothing against Catholicism as an idea, it's the Catholic church I find difficult to take.

jenzz · 26-11-2009 06:59PM

we were at mass on Sunday - one of the kids communion masses. We were in the church for over an hour, 20 mins of this was a party political broadcast on behalf of the finances of the church. They needed more money so used the kiddies mass as a time to beg.We got given out to then as our kids werent attentive enough. I was in shock. Surely they need to be keeping people wanting to go at a time like this.

I am sick after reading all that today. Really doubting this faith now.

AnonoBoy · 26-11-2009 06:59PM

brummytom wrote: »

Yes I will.

In the same way I'd visit Germany, take a tour of Parliament or look around the site of the Boston Tea Party.

Things happened in the past. Terrible, despicable, inexcusable things. But that was the past. It has no place in the present.

The church of the time should be ridiculed for what happened, but not, per se, the church of today.

I understand the majority of posters here won't agree, but it's just my opinion

Hate to disagree with you Brummy but this abuse didn't magically stop in the 50's, the 60's, the 70's, the 80's or the 90's. It kept going to the modern day and they kept covering it up. While many members of the church may be fine upstanding and holy people it doesn't excuse the systematic covering up of the abuse that went on and was sanctioned by the Vatican.

SV · 26-11-2009 06:59PM

Jakkass wrote: »

In retrospect, a lot of brummytom's views despite his age are incredibly mature in comparison to many of the other posts made by people much older than he is.

You mean those who are older than him who ridicule your religion?

qt9ukbg60ivjrn · 26-11-2009 07:01PM

brummytom wrote: »

I'm just saying that the actions of the church in the past should not be used as a benchmark against which to judge the present-day church.

do you not think that because it took a report for the facts to emerge after so long that this is a bad reflection of the modern day church? the 'cover-up' was maintained up until recently, so in my mind there is no distinction between the old and modern day church

segaBOY · 26-11-2009 07:01PM

SV wrote: »

You mean those who are older than him who ridicule your religion?

To be fair I just responded to a penis and ass comment from another poster.

26-11-2009 07:02PM

Honest question here.

Do priests originally get a call from God which prompts them to join the priesthood?

Mr. Presentable · 26-11-2009 07:02PM

Yeah, but I won't be getting down on my knees for anyone..........

Mrmoe · 26-11-2009 07:03PM

St James wrote: »

Reclaim YOUR church. Keep attending the services, change from within. If the perverts spent their time praying, they would not have had the time for preying.

There are many good priests and Catholics out there, who are saddened and disgusted with what went on as well as the cover up attempts.

We all need prayer at this time.

Oh all those lovely priests were so saddened that they did nothing:rolleyes:. Anybody who thinks actions result from prayer is delusional in my opinion. It will not affect me either way. I haven't been an attending member since I have had my own free will not to go. There are some good people in the catholic church but the stench of moral corruption is too much for me. Now don't even get me started on this whole god business.

Will you still go to mass on sunday?

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