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Lidl FTA Sat System 80cm dish

  • 03-09-2009 07:10AM
    #1
    Do-more
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,748 ✭✭✭


    Following on from Aldi recent offering, Lidl have a Free to Air Satellite System coming up on Thrusday 10th. September.

    The Lidl system has a larger 80cm dish than the Aldi version so should be good for all areas of the country.

    Price is €79.99.

    09_33007_b.jpg

    Digital Home Satellite System

    * Complete set with digital satellite receiver, satellite dish, connection and installation material, remote control, window feed through cable
    * Universal twin LNB 0.3 dB noise factor, connectors for 2 satellite receivers
    * Easy set up with satellite beeper to find the desired satellite
    * Memory for 4500 programmes
    * Signal display for optically and acoustically adjusting the antenna
    * 800 pages of super fast video text
    * Sleep timer, parental controls
    * Digital radio reception
    * Software update via satellite Astra 19.2° east
    * EPG (electronic programme guide)
    * 8-way multifunction timer linked to EPG
    * 2x Euroscart (TV SCART with CVBS, RGB, YUV (YUV= high-quality video signal e.g. for plasma/LCD TVs)
    * AC3 coaxial digital audio output
    * RS232 interface
    * F-connector input and output (loop through)
    * Video output cinch
    * S-VHS output
    * Audio output cinch R+L (stereo)
    * Price per set €79.99


    [btw priced at £69.99 in the North]

    invest4deepvalue.com



Comments

  • #2
    ThunbergsAreGo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    Looks interestingIm located on the east coast of Dublin.What channels could i access with this?


  • #3
    christo82
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 737 ✭✭✭christo82


    naughtb4 wrote: »
    Looks interestingIm located on the east coast of Dublin.What channels could i access with this?

    BBC1-4, ITV1-4(incl +1's on 2-4), Channel 4(+1), E4(+1), More4(+1), Film4(+1), FIVE. BBC Interactive streams, several Music Channels- Scuzz, NME, The Vault. News channels, some bad Movie Channels(True movies, Movies4Men) and an assortment of other less good channels.


  • #4
    Do-more
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,748 ✭✭✭Do-more


    Details of the FTA channels here.

    invest4deepvalue.com



  • #5
    bazwaldo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,777 ✭✭✭bazwaldo


    naughtb4 wrote: »
    Looks interestingIm located on the east coast of Dublin.What channels could i access with this?

    Look at lyngsat. This lists all the channels for the satellite that most in Ireland would point to. Note the FreeTV icon in the listing.

    Basically, BBC channels, ITV channels, C4, E4, More4, Channel 5. And loads of rubbish such as phone in channels, 24 hr advertisements and shopping.


  • #6
    maxwellhouse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 ✭maxwellhouse


    Hi Guys,

    I see these systems all the time, but what's involved in the installation? Easy wire it up and all that but how do I know where to put the dish and what way to point it.


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  • #7
    Do-more
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,748 ✭✭✭Do-more


    maxwellhouse wrote: »
    Hi Guys,

    I see these systems all the time, but what's involved in the installation? Easy wire it up and all that but how do I know where to put the dish and what way to point it.

    From the ALDI thread

    invest4deepvalue.com



  • #8
    TheDriver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭✭TheDriver


    google installing a sat dish and you will get exactly whats involved, good tutorials out there.
    To be honest, its better spending few extra bobs for stronger dishes and freesat boxes if you are going for a permanent house fitting as it will last lot longer, this dish is fine but mine didn't last long in the winds


  • #9
    Kashkai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,399 ✭✭✭Kashkai


    Agree with post above. You gets what you pay for. I spent about €250 on my self installed satellite equipment but for that money, I got a top quality dish, quad lnb, cable and a freesat receiver. If you ditch sky/ntl to go down the free to air/freesat route, you'll also need an aerial to get the terrestrial channels but setting up an aerial is a damn sight easier than aligning a satellite dish. Don't get me wrong, anyone can set up a dish but you'll need a lot of patience to align it properly whereas an aerial isn't as picky!!!


  • #10
    Invincible
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,458 ✭✭✭Invincible


    I saw the Lidl system for £53 in Enniskillen, the last time it was on offer.


  • #11
    bmaxi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,859 ✭✭✭bmaxi


    I agree with both above posts but I have to say the Lidl set up is quite good for the money, it's really the bracket and fixings that are rubbish. I live near the coast and my Lidl dish has outlasted my neighbour's Sky dish. Most people don't realise that once you have line of sight to the satellite, dishes can be mounted quite low down, even at ground level.
    So, if you have a suitable sheltered spot you should have no problem.


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  • #12
    racso1975
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭racso1975


    if you get this in and already have sky is it possible to just remove the sky dish and mount this one on the existing brackets and use the existing cabling and just change the dish?


  • #13
    TheDriver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭✭TheDriver


    yes, once you align it correctly. Why not just use your sky dish though and buy a box elsewhere?


  • #14
    bmaxi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,859 ✭✭✭bmaxi


    racso1975 wrote: »
    if you get this in and already have sky is it possible to just remove the sky dish and mount this one on the existing brackets and use the existing cabling and just change the dish?

    If the Sky dish is in good condition just leave the original set up and connect the receiver.


  • #15
    Repolho
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 381 ✭✭Repolho


    Can you get the interactive on BBC with one of these dishes?


  • #16
    DMC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,726 ✭✭✭✭DMC


    BBCi text is not available, but the "red button" channels are available, but not accessible via the red button. They will appear as a normal channel, in the case of the BBC, they are labelled STREAM-0, STREAM-1 etc all the way to 6. When you do your first scan, keep an eye out for them.


  • #17
    Kotek Besar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭Kotek Besar


    09_33007_b.jpg

    Digital Home Satellite System

    * Complete set with digital satellite receiver, satellite dish, connection and installation material, remote control, window feed through cable
    * Universal twin LNB 0.3 dB noise factor, connectors for 2 satellite receivers
    * Easy set up with satellite beeper to find the desired satellite
    * Memory for 4500 programmes
    * Signal display for optically and acoustically adjusting the antenna
    * 800 pages of super fast video text
    * Sleep timer, parental controls
    * Digital radio reception
    * Software update via satellite Astra 19.2° east
    * EPG (electronic programme guide)
    * 8-way multifunction timer linked to EPG
    * 2x Euroscart (TV SCART with CVBS, RGB, YUV (YUV= high-quality video signal e.g. for plasma/LCD TVs)
    * AC3 coaxial digital audio output
    * RS232 interface
    * F-connector input and output (loop through)
    * Video output cinch
    * S-VHS output
    * Audio output cinch R+L (stereo)
    * Price per set

    €79.99

    http://www.lidl.ie/IE/home.nsf/pages/c.o.20090910.p.Digital_Home_Satellite_System


  • #18
    ballybay_eh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭ballybay_eh


    So what channels does that actually pick up?


  • #19
    Tony
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,346 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    If you point the dish at astra2/eurobird you get these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_channels_on_Freesat

    ballybay_eh wrote: »
    So what channels does that actually pick up?

    https://satellite.ie/



  • #20
    tbaymusicman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭tbaymusicman


    Wonder would the receiver its self work of a sky dish???


  • #21
    Kotek Besar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭Kotek Besar


    tbaymusicman wrote: »
    Wonder would the receiver its self work of a sky dish???

    Yes it would, but personally I'd prefer a Sky box rather than this Lidl unit, if all I wanted was 28.2.


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  • #22
    Curious Geroge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭Curious Geroge


    benifa wrote: »
    Yes it would, but personally I'd prefer a Sky box rather than this Lidl unit, if all I wanted was 28.2.

    From viewing other threads, this works but not for me. I have an old Sky setup (dish and box) but cant receive anything from it. was looking to get this deal during the week but want to research the options available to get the most out of any new installation..


  • #23
    RLJ
    Closed Accounts Posts: 370 ✭✭RLJ


    benifa wrote: »
    09_33007_b.jpg

    Digital Home Satellite System

    * Complete set with digital satellite receiver, satellite dish, connection and installation material, remote control, window feed through cable
    * Universal twin LNB 0.3 dB noise factor, connectors for 2 satellite receivers
    * Easy set up with satellite beeper to find the desired satellite
    * Memory for 4500 programmes
    * Signal display for optically and acoustically adjusting the antenna
    * 800 pages of super fast video text
    * Sleep timer, parental controls
    * Digital radio reception
    * Software update via satellite Astra 19.2° east
    * EPG (electronic programme guide)
    * 8-way multifunction timer linked to EPG
    * 2x Euroscart (TV SCART with CVBS, RGB, YUV (YUV= high-quality video signal e.g. for plasma/LCD TVs)
    * AC3 coaxial digital audio output
    * RS232 interface
    * F-connector input and output (loop through)
    * Video output cinch
    * S-VHS output
    * Audio output cinch R+L (stereo)
    * Price per set

    €79.99

    http://www.lidl.ie/IE/home.nsf/pages/c.o.20090910.p.Digital_Home_Satellite_System
    is 80 a good size dish? i may buy this , how much would it cost to have someone put up the dish and install?. i am no good with that sort of thing


  • #24
    Esel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,712 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    RLJ wrote: »
    is 80 a good size dish? i may buy this , how much would it cost to have someone put up the dish and install?. i am no good with that sort of thing
    http://www.adverts.ie/showproduct.php?product=75301 No connection, btw. As an Adverts Mod, I remember random stuff!

    Not your ornery onager



  • #25
    Dr. Nick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭Dr. Nick


    Maplin have a HD system for €200


  • #26
    TheDriver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭✭TheDriver


    to be honest if you are no good at this, then you should buy a system fitted off a supplier such as satellite.ie or a local fitter as most won't want to fit a lidl system


  • #27
    polyfusion
    Closed Accounts Posts: 679 ✭✭✭polyfusion


    80cm is more than enough for getting all the free channels from 28E, which is the same satellite Sky get their channels from.

    The receiver should work fine with a Sky dish, as long as the dish is pointing at 28E, and the LNB is a digital one.

    I got the same/equivalent package 3 years ago from Lidl, and it's still up, working great. I've read in the satellite forum of people having problems with the wind blowing their dishes down, but I picked a sheltered position, and I've not had a bother with it. But you'll probably find that most installers will refuse to install this dish, citing that they "don't want the hassle for having to come back when the wind blows it down".

    I even added a couple of extra LNBs to get other satellites, and can get a range of channels in French, German, Italian, Polish, Spanish and others.


  • #28
    Esel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,712 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    TheDriver wrote: »
    to be honest if you are no good at this, then you should buy a system fitted off a supplier such as satellite.ie or a local fitter as most won't want to fit a lidl system
    Eh.... see my post above.

    Not your ornery onager



  • #29
    bmaxi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,859 ✭✭✭bmaxi


    Curious Geroge wrote: »
    From viewing other threads, this works but not for me. I have an old Sky setup (dish and box) but cant receive anything from it. was looking to get this deal during the week but want to research the options available to get the most out of any new installation..

    How old is old? There's no reason why a Sky dish and box won't pick up all the FTA channels unless (A) It came out of the ark (B) It's misaligned or (C) There is a fault in the LNB, cabling or receiver.


  • #30
    Oracle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,630 ✭✭✭Oracle


    Great to see Lidl is now selling their FTA system now. Usually Lidl sell it first, then Aldi. Anyway yes, as has been pointed out, the 80cm dish is better for reception in all parts of Ireland, but the dish is very wide and more subject to been caught (and moved) by the wind. Plus it's not a mesh dish (like Sky) so its more prone to being disturbed by gusts and storms unless, as previously said, you choose a sheltered location.

    The PowerCity 60 cm dish available online for €84.55, can be a good compromise, unless you know you need an 80cm dish. I think most locations would be able to use a 60cm dish and receive all the FTA channels. The brackets supplied with all these systems are sometimes not very strong, so you may need to buy additional (ie. stronger) brackets if you intend to install yourself. I've found satellite alignment is not that difficult. You can buy a small sat finder (Lidl, Maplins, etc...) that makes alignment easy.

    Also Maplins have a range of FTA Satellite receivers that start at about €50 if you already have a dish that is aligned to the FTA satellites, or if you want to ditch Sky, and switch to FTA. Maplins also have their own full satellite system for £60, not sure what it sells for in the Maplin shops here: http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=218642


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  • #31
    Esel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,712 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Oracle wrote: »
    You can buy a small sat finder (Lidl, Maplins, etc...) that makes alignment easy.
    Pretty sure this Lidl set includes a sat finder.

    Not your ornery onager



  • #32
    Greyham
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 201 ✭✭Greyham


    i remember trying to set one of these up a few years ago , was next to impossible , maybe that was just me , but it didnt seem user friendly at all , i dont think it was 80cm , it was 60 i think,


  • #33
    captainspeckle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 606 ✭✭✭captainspeckle


    why is this thread of the day?


  • #34
    Daibheid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 546 ✭✭✭Daibheid


    bmaxi wrote: »
    I agree with both above posts but I have to say the Lidl set up is quite good for the money, it's really the bracket and fixings that are rubbish. I live near the coast and my Lidl dish has outlasted my neighbour's Sky dish. Most people don't realise that once you have line of sight to the satellite, dishes can be mounted quite low down, even at ground level.
    So, if you have a suitable sheltered spot you should have no problem.

    I've a Lidl dish up a year and the bracket half rusted away. Took a few pix and sent them off to the serivce address on the back of the user manual. I knew I could have brought the lot back to Lidl for a refund but just wanted a replacement bracket.
    No Ifs or Buts, a new bracket despatched without delay. Fair Play.

    I also have a Sky dish which -like all my neighbours'- was red with rust within months of going up. Taking it up with Sky and they offered to replace it for €100+ and didn't make any connection between 'Fit for Purpose' and a Dish that had all the rust proofing of an old nail. Maybe there's the foundation of a class-action or similar on this going by the quality of the dishes installed by Sky in recent years. When one falls on somebody's head......:)


  • #35
    banchang
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,278 ✭✭✭banchang


    captainspeckle wrote: »
    why is this thread of the day?

    didnt know it was ?


  • #36
    Darth Maul
    Closed Accounts Posts: 336 ✭✭Darth Maul


    B&Q in the North have a FTA system with a better 60cm dish, reciever and cable for £39.90 sterling, only thing is the menu on the box is not as good as the comags sold in lidl/aldi, dish is alot better quality. system is badged as Ross,
    http://www.ross-style.com/satellite-tv/satellite-kit

    I have actually been called out to Aldi/lidl dishes that have turned inside out in the wind. But I am in a very costal, windy area.


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  • #37
    oneweb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,191 ✭✭✭oneweb


    Not sure if it was the last of their stock but I got the last one on the palette an hour ago in Moore St :)

    It is what it's.



  • #38
    georgem25
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭georgem25


    All gone in Shannon :(


  • #39
    sonic74f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭sonic74f


    Apologies if this has been covered but I set mine up this evening and got BBC1 and only 5 more on 28.2 by just adjusting the dish, from reading here there is a wide range of channels on 28.2 but only 5 or so seemed to get a signal on 28.2. Do I have to do further tuning in with the reciever to get the rest on 28.2?
    Thanks,
    James


  • #40
    TheDriver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭✭TheDriver


    yes


  • #41
    sonic74f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭sonic74f


    Thanks for the reply, I just gave a quick set up this evening but will go though it properly tomorrow evening.


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  • #42
    Pat Mustard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,554 ✭✭✭Pat Mustard


    bmaxi wrote: »
    I agree with both above posts but I have to say the Lidl set up is quite good for the money, it's really the bracket and fixings that are rubbish.

    I bought this set. I was able to source similar fixings in stainless steel in many cases. Some of the other stuff I thought I could have galvanised. I was wrong there. The stuff I wanted to galvanise was nickel plated or electro-plated, I was told (by the galvanising guy). The plating made galvanising impractically expensive, according to him. That dude advised me to have the bracket plastic or powder coated if that's what I wanted to do. I am looking into it now.

    So, in short, I am hoping that it is very do-able to get a reasonable durable set of equipment out of this, with some minor and inexpensive adjustments.

    I have spent a tenner on the stainless steel fixings so far, including the U shaped bracket (threaded 8mm threaded stainless steel bolt, to be bended into shape yet). Not a helluva lot in total.

    I think this set is pretty good value, considering the money you pay. Any further thoughts or ideas by people?


  • #43
    polyfusion
    Closed Accounts Posts: 679 ✭✭✭polyfusion


    sonic74f wrote: »
    Thanks for the reply, I just gave a quick set up this evening but will go though it properly tomorrow evening.

    An autoscan will get you everything thats available with the way your dish is currently set up. If you're not getting them all, then you need to optimise the dish and LNB alignment.

    One thing holding you back could be the LNB skew (google it for pictures and info). Basically, you need to have the LNB rotated in the holder a bit to align properly with the sat. For 28E, as you look at the LNB and dish from the front, you need to rotate it clockwise a few degrees - it makes a big difference. Once you're getting Zone Horror with good signal quality (above 75%), you're probably near as good as you'll get it.


  • #44
    djb85
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 205 ✭✭djb85


    I've connected up my dish this evening and I'm having some problems. I am trying to get Astra 28.2 and can only seem to get a strong system set-up signal on Astra 19.2.

    I'm using the sat finder box and when I move away from Astra 19.2 I can't get high frequency sound anywhere near it . The signal quality indicator does not move from 11% when in setup for Astra 28.2

    When I select say BBC 1 and hit 'info' its giving me a signal strength & quality of 70-80%, however 'no signal' appears. This may be because the signal is completely dropped every 5-10 secs for a moment and then returns.

    Anyone else have problems with this set-up?


  • #45
    Apogee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭Apogee


    If you are able to get Astra 19e with actual pictures, mark the position off with a marker/tipex, then drop the elevation of the dish by about 3 degrees and then slowly move the dish east for Astra 28.

    http://bytelive.com/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=How+to+align+a+satellite+dish


  • #46
    djb85
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 205 ✭✭djb85


    Thanks , will try in the morning.


  • #47
    bran01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 ✭bran01


    Have this up and running . Not geting BBC ITV etc even though signal strength= 94% and sig intensity = 83% . Can get lots of French And German channels on 19 and 28.2E.
    Can any of you bright people help me please


  • #48
    oneweb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,191 ✭✭✭oneweb


    Who else thought this was a new satellite offer? :(

    Ya shoulda posted here...
    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=55

    It is what it's.



  • #49
    Tony
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,346 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    Your dish is not aligned to astra 2

    bran01 wrote: »
    Have this up and running . Not geting BBC ITV etc even though signal strength= 94% and sig intensity = 83% . Can get lots of French And German channels on 19 and 28.2E.
    Can any of you bright people help me please

    https://satellite.ie/



  • #50
    bran01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 ✭bran01


    Thanks to you i have all FTAs like others i was stuck on 19E:D

    bran 01




    quote=Apogee;62079583]If you are able to get Astra 19e with actual pictures, mark the position off with a marker/tipex, then drop the elevation of the dish by about 3 degrees and then slowly move the dish east for Astra 28.

    http://bytelive.com/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=How+to+align+a+satellite+dish[/quote]


  • #51
    swift89
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27 ✭swift89


    i was in B&Q on monday and im sure i saw a FTA package for €59
    i have my lidl one about 2 years now and find myself watchin it more then ntl digital especially since they don give u most of the +1 channel's on the basic digital


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