Did you know... random facts

Scubadevils · 15-12-2009 12:46PM #1

Lets have a 'Did you know' thread :pac: Random facts about electronic artists etc that not everyone knows...

What spurred this thread was the discovery that the band 'Doves' were once called 'Sub Sub' and recorded several early dance tracks before becoming Doves in 1998... Maybe everyone else knows this, I certainly didn't! And I actually have the album 'The Last Broadcast'.

Doves - There Goes The Fear

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZgBKVBduQg

Doves - Words

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaEWlYHrF6w

Sub Sub - Space Face

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC9O32R1BZY

Sub Sub ft Melanie Williams - Ain't No Love [everyone will know this one]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRguEi3wufQ

jtsuited · 15-12-2009 12:58PM

you didn't know that???? jaysus. good band.

Scubadevils · 15-12-2009 01:01PM

jtsuited wrote: »

you didn't know that???? jaysus. good band.

No didn't know that, and I was kinda thinking I might be alone in that respect!

Yeah I like that album The Last Broadcast, especially that 2nd track 'Words'.

jtsuited · 15-12-2009 01:07PM

Felixdhc wrote: »

No didn't know that, and I was kinda thinking I might be alone in that respect!

I'd say you are. Although i only know it because of my rock music background and it was all that was ever written about doves when they first came out.

joker77 · 15-12-2009 01:07PM

great band - knew they'd done some early 'dance' stuff - didn't realise they did that last track you posted! :eek:

insert-gear · 15-12-2009 01:19PM

Booka Shade made their millions originally producing french pop tracks (late 90's I think). Thats about the best I can do, tis also common knowledge

Scubadevils · 15-12-2009 01:19PM

jtsuited wrote: »

I'd say you are. Although i only know it because of my rock music background and it was all that was ever written about doves when they first came out.

I knew the track 'There Goes the Fear' from the radio back when it was out and my wife bought the album a few years ago, never delved further into who they were, where from etc.

joker77 wrote: »

great band - knew they'd done some early 'dance' stuff - didn't realise they did that last track you posted! :eek:

Yay, I'm not completely alone! :pac:

Another one that I did know as I love his stuff is Steve Hillage... he came from a psychedelic rock background in the 70's and as Gong etc and went on to ambient and techno later on as System 7...

Steve Hillage - Hurdy Gurdy Man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyrxtVnc-28

System 7 - Desir

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeRKWen_3JA

System 7 - Sinbad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyiGhnb8QSw

Any other artists jump out that had a big shift in what they do?

joker77 · 15-12-2009 01:22PM

Got any random facts about Patrick Prins? Was behind a large number of huge tracks mid-90s - Castle Trancelott, Peppermint Lounge, Subliminal Cuts, La Luna, Bits and Pieces... then just disappeared off the radar.

Scubadevils · 15-12-2009 01:32PM

Yeah its funny how some of them disappear altogether and he is a really good example, I see from discogs nothing since 1997... he released many a classic alright back then under various names.

Another that has disappeared and rumoured to be dead is Fabio Paras, not as known by any means as Prins but had a pretty comprehensive list of tunes and remixes and was a great DJ...

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Fabio+Paras

Sound Clash Republic - Sack the Drummer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9vNt72Nq5Q

Smells Like Heaven - Londres Strut

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssgW-HoVcfA

Outrage - Drives Me Crazy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYh7mAd6et4

He also released the more commercial/cheese track 'Tall N Handsome' under the Outrage name...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OFVOVvTCYY

15-12-2009 06:50PM

Knew that Doves one, and not only that but pretty sure they changed from dance music because their studio burned down and they lost everything including some expensive equipment, and decided to go back to cheaper ways again with a guitar, basic drum kit etc. They said that on some interview a few years back anyway or might have read it in the Guinness books of trivia (their Encyclopedias of Rock or maybe Rap Dance and Techno) Rockopedia or not sure if they were being ironic or genuine, but it certainly is the same band.

Is Michael Gray of Weekend fame and SexOSonique of I Thought It Was You one and the same?

electrogrimey · 15-12-2009 07:01PM

Surkin, is Kavinsky's son!

That's a fact.

g5fd6ow0hseima · 15-12-2009 08:21PM

electrogrimey wrote: »

Surkin, is Kavinsky's son!

That's a fact.

I dont know whether to take you serious on that one. Kavinsky does look about 40 odd

electrogrimey · 15-12-2009 08:30PM

Ainsley Repulsive Swimmer wrote: »

I dont know whether to take you serious on that one. Kavinsky does look about 40 odd

It's a bit mental alright, he must have had him in his teens, but it's true, I'll try and find you a link about it somwhere.

That's not the only interesting relationship he has with an Ed Banger artist. Surkin has confirmed he is indeed the young son of famed French producer Kavinsky – who rides heavy on the labels pull along with Justice and Sebastian. Crediting his "odd childhood" to his father, whom he says brought home different women every night, he admits Kavinsky is the reason he entered the French Parisian dance scene in the first place.

http://www.cinemablend.com/music/Live-DJ-Review-DJ-Surkin-at-NYC-s-Le-Poisson-Rouge-12795.html

There's a good bit of debate about it, but Surkin has said it in a good few interviews, although it could be a PR thing.

Zascar · 17-12-2009 03:41PM

From Wikipedia:

Kavinsky's fellow producer Surkin claimed in an interview that Kavinsky was his father. However, this is highly unlikely, as Belorgey would have been 10 year old at the time of birth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kavinsky
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surkin

electrogrimey · 17-12-2009 04:09PM

Zascar wrote: »

From Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kavinsky
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surkin

I saw that alright, but it's Wikipedia in fairness, and nobody really knows what age either of them are, and the Wikipedia pages don't give any sources. I'd be more inclined to believe Surkin himself.

Mr Floyd · 17-12-2009 09:13PM

Jarvis Cocker done the video for Aphex Twins "On".

acman · 12-01-2010 02:54AM

Three interesting facts of where some very famous tunes really came from!

Daft Punk - Scandalous!

The making of, and subsequent un-masking of how "Smack My Btch Up" was made.

Zombie Nation unveiled!

jtsuited · 12-01-2010 08:03AM

here's some random facts for you....

remember that movie Into the West?....the older of the brothers in it....is now engaged to Samantha Mumba.

Max Mosely is Desmond Guiness's half brother.

Chevy Chase was in a band with Walter Becker and Donald Fagen. He left to pursue his comedy career and they changed their name to Steely Dan.

tman · 12-01-2010 08:55AM

The Doves > Sub Sub link was new to me... Interesting!

Thomas Bangalter's dad (or possibly Guy Manuel's dad... cba googling) was behind the supercheese disco hit "D.I.S.C.O."

12-01-2010 10:03AM

jtsuited wrote: »

Chevy Chase was in a band with Walter Becker and Donald Fagen. He left to pursue his comedy career and they changed their name to Steely Dan.

Before any of them rose to fame, Gerry Rafferty of Baker's Street fame was in a band with Billy Connolly called the Humblebums, and pretty sure Finbarr Furey played with them too.

Zascar · 12-01-2010 10:15AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Before any of them rose to fame, Gerry Rafferty of Baker's Street fame was in a band with Billy Connolly called the Humblebums

This is actually mentioned in one of Billy's shows I think its one of the funniest pieces of comedy ever

Scubadevils · 05-02-2010 07:53AM

Heres another I certainly didn't know.

Chris Martin of Coldplay collaborated with Kirk Degiorgio & Dan Keeling as Beetlejuice with this great track taken from the 'Electric Institute' compilation from 2005.

http://www.discogs.com/Various-The-Electric-Institute/master/133392

Whatever Happened to the Cosmic Kid?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hA4oFrUMsI

Real Name:
Christopher Anthony John Martin
Profile:
Lead singer of Coldplay. Also collaborated with Kirk Degiorgio and Dan Keeling as Beetlejuice. Chris was born on March 2, 1977. He married American actress Gwyneth Paltrow on December 5, 2003.
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Chris+Martin

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Kirk+Degiorgio

jonnny68 · 07-02-2010 12:02AM

tman wrote: »

The Doves > Sub Sub link was new to me... Interesting!

Thomas Bangalter's dad (or possibly Guy Manuel's dad... cba googling) was behind the supercheese disco hit "D.I.S.C.O."

didnt know that:D

Táck · 07-02-2010 05:34PM

anne doyle misses the temple theatre. fact.

Stab*City · 07-02-2010 07:07PM

jtsuited wrote: »

here's some random facts for you....

remember that movie Into the West?....the older of the brothers in it....is now engaged to Samantha Mumba.

Max Mosely is Desmond Guiness's half brother.

Chevy Chase was in a band with Walter Becker and Donald Fagen. He left to pursue his comedy career and they changed their name to Steely Dan.

Chevy Chase is awesome.

Nolanger · 08-02-2010 06:11PM

Dave Dorrell the DJ responsible for Marrs' "Pump up the volume" became the manager of grunge stars Bush.

BaZmO* · 10-02-2010 04:44PM

Nolanger wrote: »

Dave Dorrell the DJ responsible for Marrs' "Pump up the volume" became the manager of grunge stars Bush.

He also presented a music show for people with a stutter.

I knew the one about the Doves, it was all that was ever written about them when they first started off.

Dido's brother is Rollo (Armstrong) founder of Cheeky Records and producer under such guises as Rollo Goes...., Our Tribe, The O.T. Quartet, Faithless. And collaborations with Sister Bliss.

He also helped write and produce most of Dido's albums.

g5fd6ow0hseima · 10-02-2010 04:52PM

Kevin Kennedy AKA Curly Watts from Coronation Street was in the band 'Paris Valentinos' which also contained Johnny Marr and Andy Rourke who later played in The Smiths.

tman · 11-02-2010 01:14PM

BaZmO* wrote: »

Dido's brother is Rollo (Armstrong) founder of Cheeky Records and producer under such guises as Rollo Goes...., Our Tribe, The O.T. Quartet, Faithless. And collaborations with Sister Bliss.

He also helped write and produce most of Dido's albums.

He also co-produced the classic "Felix - Don't you want my love" along with Red Jerry. (I thought he was the main guy behind it until just now...)

Jesus Juice · 11-02-2010 01:21PM

Deadmau5 is called so because he found a dead mouse in his computer!

BaZmO* · 11-02-2010 01:23PM

tman wrote: »

He also co-produced the classic "Felix - Don't you want my love" along with Red Jerry.

You sure? I thought he just done a remix with Red Jerry? Think it was the Hooj Mix.

The original version is a slower housier version with a piano rift lead, and not the more popular version that made the charts.

:edit

Here's the Original Version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXA6uKgn3C4

Hooj Mix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg7_UyAIevg

Scubadevils · 11-02-2010 08:50PM

Ainsley Repulsive Swimmer wrote: »

Kevin Kennedy AKA Curly Watts from Coronation Street was in the band 'Paris Valentinos' which also contained Johnny Marr and Andy Rourke who later played in The Smiths.

Ha, didn't know that - good old Johnny Marr has played with all sorts!

jtsuited · 11-02-2010 09:15PM

Felixdhc wrote: »

Ha, didn't know that - good old Johnny Marr has played with all sorts!

including modest mouse. that still doesn't make sense in my head.

Scubadevils · 11-02-2010 09:25PM

I suppose in fairness Morrissey hasn't made much sense either in many years - they should have spent a little longer together as The Smiths.

I always think of this track when I see numerous 'Best Of', 'Greatest Hits' etc by The Smiths.

Re-issue ! Re-package ! Re-package !
Re-evaluate the songs
Double-pack with a photograph
Extra Track (and a tacky badge)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08Zc17YQzdk

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_dd_pop?url=search-alias%3Dpopular&field-keywords=the+smiths&x=0&y=0

tman · 11-02-2010 09:58PM

BaZmO* wrote: »

You sure? I thought he just done a remix with Red Jerry? Think it was the Hooj Mix.

The original version is a slower housier version with a piano rift lead, and not the more popular version that made the charts.

I'm just not sure any more... For some reason I had it in my head that Rollo was fully behind the original version, but checked wikipedia just before posting to see if I was correct, and they seem to think he co-produced it... The wiki page doesn't mention which version, so you kind of assume they're talking about the original

Discogs kind of make it sound like it too; http://www.discogs.com/artist/Felix

g5fd6ow0hseima · 12-02-2010 01:23AM

jtsuited wrote: »

including modest mouse. that still doesn't make sense in my head.

Yup, and there's also The Cribs....

Nolanger · 13-02-2010 08:35PM

This was Underworld when they started out in the '80s as a rock band!

g5fd6ow0hseima · 14-02-2010 03:22AM

Here's one of Underworld's first hits..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5vQP_RFccY

15-04-2010 05:27PM

Congress of classic old skool hit "40 Miles"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDtOhm0s2Hw

were one and the same as Nush of the bit more cheesy handbag "U Girls (Look So Sexy)"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8ZFa4pRa60

And they were produced by Michael Gray and Jon Pearn of Sex-O-Sonique - "I Thought It Was You"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1bU2wuRrj8

Michael had a big hit in his own name with "Weekend"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR8jOJZERhs

And Jon went on to form half of Bodyrox, who churned out one of the most overplayed tunes ever with "Yeah Yeah"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQpbEsls7oY

Sex-O-Sonique was clearly their highlight mind...

/\ NIGHTFLIGHT · 16-04-2010 10:01AM

Booka Shade called used to call themselves Perky Park they even remixed a version of Aqua's Barbie Girl.

One of the Tidy Boys was also Jive Bunny.

Executive Steve · 16-04-2010 10:29AM

Damian Lazarus made DnB for years under the name PM Scientists.

Mark Pritchard and Tom Middleton made DnB under the name Chameleon, and Mark Pritchard also did solo DnB stuff under the name Use Of Weapons

The Wikipedia page on Dubstep has a picture of Skream behind the decks wearing a Bassbin T-Shirt (Bassbin = legendary Irish DnB label)

BaZmO* · 16-04-2010 01:03PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Congress of classic old skool hit "40 Miles"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDtOhm0s2Hw

were one and the same as Nush of the bit more cheesy handbag "U Girls (Look So Sexy)"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8ZFa4pRa60

And they were produced by Michael Gray and Jon Pearn of Sex-O-Sonique - "I Thought It Was You"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1bU2wuRrj8

Michael had a big hit in his own name with "Weekend"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR8jOJZERhs

And Jon went on to form half of Bodyrox, who churned out one of the most overplayed tunes ever with "Yeah Yeah"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQpbEsls7oY

Sex-O-Sonique was clearly their highlight mind...

Although, Nush's self titled first release was pretty sweet. One of the first tracks I bought on vinyl and it still sounds great. It's the type of track that I associate with the early days of Sides.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tAnEbZ5L0Q

I liked their Nush 2 track also, and the "Bottom Dollars Save The Robot Mix" of Move That Body, but they were definitely cashing in with U Girls.

Love that Sex-O-Sonique track too. Although, it's essentially a rehash of Herbie Hancock track, still great mind.

Scubadevils · 16-04-2010 11:04PM

Executive Steve wrote: »

Damian Lazarus made DnB for years under the name PM Scientists.

Mark Pritchard and Tom Middleton made DnB under the name Chameleon, and Mark Pritchard also did solo DnB stuff under the name Use Of Weapons

Love both Pritchard and Middleton, two favourites of mine across the music they have put out since the early 90s... Reload & Global Communication being my favourites though.

And Pritchard more recently as half of Harmonic 33 produced some amazing downtempo stuff again... such as this from the 2005 album 'Music For Film, Television And Radio Volume 1'

Planet 54

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAbMx2VMwBU

And again more recently on his own as Harmonic 313 with some pretty good dubstep or 'detroit style hip hop' as its labeled on discogs... suppose a pretty good description!

Quadrant 3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeB8CMD3RgA

This though as Reload in their early days together is a firm favourite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9CNKrA_8Nk

Scubadevils · 16-04-2010 11:11PM

Oh and have to add this also by Pritchard & Middleton... taken from one of my all-time favourite albums, 'A Collection of Short Stories'

http://www.discogs.com/Reload-A-Collection-Of-Short-Stories/master/17159

Reload - Le Soleil et la Mer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28leylkt08g

Zascar · 19-04-2010 09:36AM

Apparently Jimmy Saville invented DJing - he (claims) he was the first person to hook up two turntables together. Apparently he was too scabby to pay for a band and did not want gaps in between the songs so he made a simple crossover box - or so the story goes...

BaZmO* · 19-04-2010 10:12AM

Zascar wrote: »

Apparently Jimmy Saville invented DJing - he (claims) he was the first person to hook up two turntables together. Apparently he was too scabby to pay for a band and did not want gaps in between the songs so he made a simple crossover box - or so the story goes...

I've heard that before, so I reckon there might be some truth in it. I'm not sure about the "Crossover" box claim though.

Zascar · 19-04-2010 10:26AM

He also claims to have invented Rap music - but only he believes that one...

Executive Steve · 19-04-2010 10:38AM

Zascar wrote: »

Apparently Jimmy Saville invented DJing - he (claims) he was the first person to hook up two turntables together. Apparently he was too scabby to pay for a band and did not want gaps in between the songs so he made a simple crossover box - or so the story goes...

He was definitely the first person to ever charge an admission fee to hear records being played at a dance.

He noticed after a few weeks that the gap between the tunes while they changed the records was something to be avoided, so he went and bought a second record player so they could immediately drop a tune in as soon as the first one finished.

Not sure where the whole "inventing rap" came from, but sure one look at his outfits all through the 80's - tracksuits, gold bling and cigars - and I think we can count him as an honorary G.

Executive Steve · 19-04-2010 10:42AM

Dillinja & Lemon D are in the Guinness Book of World Records for owning the world's largest soundsystem geared specifically for bass music. Here's two short documentaries about it, one off Channel 4 from 2003 and one from the bonus DVD off their Killa Hertz LP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeuRN1B5T5w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU6Hgsqjty8

If i ever win the euro millions I'll build a bigger one and clash them.

Scubadevils · 19-04-2010 10:33PM

Zascar wrote: »

Apparently Jimmy Saville invented DJing - he (claims) he was the first person to hook up two turntables together. Apparently he was too scabby to pay for a band and did not want gaps in between the songs so he made a simple crossover box - or so the story goes...

Yeah there was a chapter about that in 'Last Night a DJ Saved my Life'

Executive Steve · 20-04-2010 12:14PM

Scubadevils wrote: »

Yeah there was a chapter about that in 'Last Night a DJ Saved my Life'

Great book!

DJHistory.com is also well worth checking for similar stuff - interviews with heads most people have forgotten by now...

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