GREAT NEWS -Untethered Jailbreak .

Leiva · 26-03-2010 08:29AM #1

The boy genius GeoHot has completed the 1st steps for a untethered jailbreak for most devices , any of you iPhone and iPod users unfortunate enough to have the 359.3.2 bootrom it's great news.
Not released yet but expect it within days , as easy as blackra1n

more info and video here ;
http://iphonejtag.blogspot.com/

Stuxnet · 26-03-2010 09:50AM

It'll be a very foolish move if he releases before 4.0.

Deedsie · 26-03-2010 10:08AM

BOBBY wrote: »

It'll be a very foolish move if he releases before 4.0.

Why is that?

Jumpy · 26-03-2010 10:09AM

They will just write it into 4.0

Stuxnet · 26-03-2010 10:44AM

Deedsie wrote: »

Why is that?

Showing his hand before next major fw release, apple will have it patched

Leiva · 26-03-2010 12:05PM

BOBBY wrote: »

It'll be a very foolish move if he releases before 4.0.

Bobby,
He aint that stupid....

Personally I think the 4G iphone will be a different beast with improved security "hardware" .

People go on about will the 4G have Flash , better camera, Radio etc etc , thats fine but I reckon the big news (in the hack community at least) will be Apples response to jailbreaking and hacking with better hardware and more communication with Apples server via iTunes etc , for certain tasks , hence making it a completely different beast to jailbreak.
This will start off a whole new hacking Cat&Mouse game for 4G devices.

The jailbreaking community has never had it better , this aint gonna last .

Call me paranoid but thats my 00000.2c worth .

M.

Stuxnet · 26-03-2010 12:35PM

He's not stupid, bit he's a bit of glory hunter !!
Time will tell !

IamMetaldave · 26-03-2010 12:57PM

Fairplay to him. I'm surprised Apple haven't tried to hire him to get him to stop!

Elessar · 26-03-2010 01:28PM

F*cking awesome. I thought he said he's never do an untethered jailbreak??

Elessar · 26-03-2010 01:44PM

mixednuts wrote: »

Bobby,
He aint that stupid....

Personally I think the 4G iphone will be a different beast with improved security "hardware" .

People go on about will the 4G have Flash , better camera, Radio etc etc , thats fine but I reckon the big news (in the hack community at least) will be Apples response to jailbreaking and hacking with better hardware and more communication with Apples server via iTunes etc , for certain tasks , hence making it a completely different beast to jailbreak.
This will start off a whole new hacking Cat&Mouse game for 4G devices.

The jailbreaking community has never had it better , this aint gonna last .

Call me paranoid but thats my 00000.2c worth .

M.

Anytime I have ever heard this about an "unhackable" piece of hardware, it has been hacked. Every single time.

I guarantee you the 4G will be jailbroken. No matter what Apple says. In fact, I'd bet money on it.

Leiva · 26-03-2010 02:56PM

Elessar wrote: »

Anytime I have ever heard this about an "unhackable" piece of hardware, it has been hacked. Every single time.

I guarantee you the 4G will be jailbroken. No matter what Apple says. In fact, I'd bet money on it.

Where I did say "unhackable" or imply the 4G wont be hacked ?

Elessar · 26-03-2010 02:59PM

mixednuts wrote: »

Where I did say "unhackable" or imply the 4G wont be hacked ?

Here: The jailbreaking community has never had it better , this aint gonna last .

Leiva · 26-03-2010 03:06PM

Elessar wrote: »

Here: The jailbreaking community has never had it better , this aint gonna last .

OK : Should have read ..... "The jailbreaking community has never had it easier , this aint gonna last "

By changing " better" with "easier" I mean jailbreaking a device now is simple (eg) blackra1n .
With the 4G I feel we may be back to the good old days of a jailbreak method that takes an hour 'v' seconds.

Not unhackable just harder ! , which will be a deterrent in itself

Elessar · 26-03-2010 04:26PM

Ok!

Just to inform everybody that from further reading, this new jailbreak is for currently tethered devices only. It is not a jailbreak for 3.1.3. Geohot has said he will not jailbreak 3.1.3. That's not too clear from his blog post. Everyone in the comments is assuming it's for 3.1.3.

Leiva · 26-03-2010 04:53PM

True ....

On its own is a hack on the new 359.3.2 bootrom .

The old exploit (24kpwn) which was patched on 359.3.2 bootrom was causing the single biggest headache for jb's , as a tethered jailbreak is a kinda pain in the ass, (luckily not for me )

In saying all that , its a big event for the community , even the Dev team got a little stumped when the 24pwn got patched .
Any new exploit that removes the need to tether your phone after a reboot is definitely a good thing.
So this bootrom exploit incorporated into a jailbreak process is the complete package.

Should he have shown his hand before the 4G was released , who knows ? but surely he is not that stupid . Egomaniac Yes , Stupid No .

Khannie · 26-03-2010 05:14PM

Oh man. I'm so happy. I don't have a windows or mac computer (I run linux) so the iphone crashing or needing a reboot has been a major source of pain for me. This is great news.

partyatmygaff · 26-03-2010 05:34PM

Elessar wrote: »

Anytime I have ever heard this about an "unhackable" piece of hardware, it has been hacked. Every single time.

I guarantee you the 4G will be jailbroken. No matter what Apple says. In fact, I'd bet money on it.

Hmm... It's not impossible that they may release an unhackable device. Take the PS3 for example, it's almost four years old now and not one single exploit has been found despite people's best efforts. Even geohot made an attempt at it (And was quite arrogant about it too) and got nowhere with it.

Apple could well make a completely secure system this time around.

Khannie · 26-03-2010 05:37PM

I heard that the PS3 had been broken. Was it all lies?

edit: I don't think they will create a completely secure system this time around. There's just too much software running on the iPhone for there not to be a stack overflow vulnerability *somewhere*.

edit 2: I should add, all this proprietary nonsense has pushed me over the line into the loving arms of google and their android. I mean, I love my iPhone, and I'm gonna have it for a long time, but next time I'll be getting something that doesn't need a jailbreak.

Stuxnet · 26-03-2010 05:46PM

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Take the PS3 for example, it's almost four years old now and not one single exploit has been found despite people's best efforts. Even geohot made an attempt at it (And was quite arrogant about it too) and got nowhere with it.

your wrong there in all your points, he has released an exploit to would be hackers and developers, balls in there court to do something with it

Khannie wrote: »

I heard that the PS3 had been broken. Was it all lies?

i dont think we'll be running backups anytime soon !
maybe emulation and home-brew possible !

anyhow dont want to be running ot

Elessar · 31-03-2010 12:45PM

Chronic dev team have a working 3.1.3 jailbreak, it's just a question of when now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7DU8XMKWRE

Deedsie · 31-03-2010 01:13PM

When are these gonna be released. Its nearly a week since GeoHot's video was released. What was the point of teasing people with it?

Deedsie · 09-04-2010 09:57AM

http://iphonejtag.blogspot.com/

Geo has updated his blog with keys. I have no idea what any of it means. But people are getting very excited about it.

Elessar · 10-04-2010 11:02AM

Looks like it's a definite a jailbreak will be released for 3.1.3 this month:

P0sixninja via twitter: @cafedelmarr don't sell it yet, I promise you'll see a 3.1.3 jailbreak this month

Dev team from their blog: · 1 hour ago

The iPad is JB - it will very likely be released when the 3G iPad is released later this month.
Comex found an exploit which he has shared with the Dev Team and Chronic. GeoHot also has ported BlackRa1n to the iPad. No one thinks it's a good idea to release before the 3G iPad is released but once it is then I believe the JB will be released. It will be backward compatible with 3.13 as well as 3.2 Nothing is 100% certain but with so many people all agreeing to hold off until the 3G is released my guess is that the JB will probably come out later this month.

Hurrah! A jailbreak but probably no unlock for 5.12.01 baseband until OS 4 is released. Might be a kick in the teeth for those of you with newer phones!

Eoin_Sheehy · 10-04-2010 02:32PM

George Hotz hasn't revealed his hand really, he has shown us that it can be untethered but Apple can only guess how he did it and how to stop it. Anyway intelligence would dictate that he won't release it until after the release of OS 4 so that he can check if it works on it and so that Apple can't stop it the OS.

P.S. Can anyone exain to me what the codes are on the blog? people are very excited about it but I have no idea what it is.

Leiva · 12-04-2010 04:03PM

Geohot has just posted a photo of a 3GS jailbroken on OS 4.0 (BETA)

So if we add this new 4.0 jailbreak to the new exploit found in the bootrom (untethered jailbreak ) ....we are looking at firmware 4.0 jailbroken for all devices , regardless or model or bootrom type

We probably wont see this until probably 48hrs before the new iPhone 4GHD is released ...similar to what happened when the 3GS got released .

http://img532.yfrog.com/i/orcqp.jpg/

Spazdarn · 13-04-2010 09:18AM

God I want my iphone unlocked so bad. 3.1.3...

Leiva · 13-04-2010 09:27AM

ToiletFusion wrote: »

God I want my iphone unlocked so bad. 3.1.3...

your welcome

Deedsie · 13-04-2010 09:52AM

So are we looking at June/July kinda time for a new jailbreak to be released?

Khannie · 13-04-2010 10:01AM

Deedsie wrote: »

So are we looking at June/July kinda time for a new jailbreak to be released?

Yeah, interested to know this too. What's the story? They're likely waiting for 4.0?

Leiva · 13-04-2010 10:48AM

My "assumption" is based on the last major phone and firmware release . (3GS /3.0

Leaks and vids about 3.0 been jailbroken came out weeks before the official release , yet we did not see the new exploit been release til 48hrs before the official release .
The devs don't want their exploit patched so the hold off til last minute.

It looking good but

M.

Khannie · 13-04-2010 11:34AM

I hope it's sooner rather than later. My phone is due a crash some time soon.

I just checked and it's been turned on for 53 days straight. Tethered boot is actually very difficult for me to get because I've no windows machine or mac.

Slippin Jimmy · 13-04-2010 01:52PM

I bought a iphone on vodafone yesterday, thought I could unlock it straight away. I didn't realise that the firmware couldn't be unlocked yet. Hopefully this will get released soon. I am going to try to bring it back to vodafone and see will they refund me the money.

Jax Teller · 13-04-2010 02:19PM

Duffff-Man wrote: »

I bought a iphone on vodafone yesterday, thought I could unlock it straight away. I didn't realise that the firmware couldn't be unlocked yet. Hopefully this will get released soon. I am going to try to bring it back to vodafone and see will they refund me the money.

goodluck with that

Leiva · 13-04-2010 02:30PM

Duffff-Man wrote: »

I bought a iphone on vodafone yesterday, thought I could unlock it straight away. I didn't realise that the firmware couldn't be unlocked yet. Hopefully this will get released soon. I am going to try to bring it back to vodafone and see will they refund me the money.

Is using an Vodafone sim an option for the next 12 weeks approx ?

Slippin Jimmy · 13-04-2010 03:30PM

mixednuts wrote: »

Is using an Vodafone sim an option for the next 12 weeks approx ?

Unfortunatly not, im on meteor and have no intention of moving to vodafone. I guess I'll just have to wait.

Slippin Jimmy · 13-04-2010 03:31PM

keysersoze_88 wrote: »

goodluck with that

Thanks

Leiva · 13-04-2010 03:37PM

Duffff-Man wrote: »

Unfortunatly not, im on meteor and have no intention of moving to vodafone. I guess I'll just have to wait.

I take back my forecast of 12 weeks ...now more like 2 weeks for your phone type

GreenPois0n

Quote:
The boy-wonder Geohot threw a wrench in our gears once again after discovering a NEW exploit that pretty much blows everything we've got out of the water. So now we're forced to reconsider our release plans once again. As of today (I can't speak for tomorrow, for all I know everything could change again), both the original exploit I posted about earlier and the new “spirit” exploit are probably going to be held off for a little bit longer to avoid being patched by Apple. Also, today I mentioned on my twitter that I can almost guarantee an exploit for 3.1.3/3.2 (all devices, and all models!) before the end of the month.

Slippin Jimmy · 13-04-2010 03:45PM

mixednuts wrote: »

I take back my forecast of 12 weeks ...now more like 2 weeks for your phone type

GreenPois0n

Quote:
The boy-wonder Geohot threw a wrench in our gears once again after discovering a NEW exploit that pretty much blows everything we've got out of the water. So now we're forced to reconsider our release plans once again. As of today (I can't speak for tomorrow, for all I know everything could change again), both the original exploit I posted about earlier and the new “spirit” exploit are probably going to be held off for a little bit longer to avoid being patched by Apple. Also, today I mentioned on my twitter that I can almost guarantee an exploit for 3.1.3/3.2 (all devices, and all models!) before the end of the month.

Excellent news, think it is worth the wait now

Stainless_Steel · 13-04-2010 04:10PM

I hate jailbreaks!!!

Well I understand it if you want to use a different phone network.

Deedsie · 13-04-2010 04:13PM

Stainless_Steel wrote: »

I hate jailbreaks!!!

Well I understand it if you want to use a different phone network.

Stop reading about them then. Go out and enjoy the sun.

keane2097 · 13-04-2010 04:24PM

Can somebody clarify:

Is it now possible to get an untethered jailbreak for a phone with 3.12 currently running with a tethered JB??

partyatmygaff · 13-04-2010 04:27PM

Stainless_Steel wrote: »

I hate jailbreaks!!!

Well I understand it if you want to use a different phone network.

Jailbreaking has nothing to do with phone networks, that's unlocking which is a whole other thing.

How can you hate something you don't understand anyway?

Leiva · 13-04-2010 04:43PM

Stainless_Steel wrote: »

I hate jailbreaks!!!

.

Thanks for that ..... I hate tomato on a Wopper .

Jax Teller · 13-04-2010 04:44PM

mixednuts wrote: »

I take back my forecast of 12 weeks ...now more like 2 weeks for your phone type

GreenPois0n

Quote:
The boy-wonder Geohot threw a wrench in our gears once again after discovering a NEW exploit that pretty much blows everything we've got out of the water. So now we're forced to reconsider our release plans once again. As of today (I can't speak for tomorrow, for all I know everything could change again), both the original exploit I posted about earlier and the new “spirit” exploit are probably going to be held off for a little bit longer to avoid being patched by Apple. Also, today I mentioned on my twitter that I can almost guarantee an exploit for 3.1.3/3.2 (all devices, and all models!) before the end of the month.

Were you read this I checked his blog nothing there ?

Khannie · 13-04-2010 05:35PM

keysersoze_88 wrote: »

Were you read this I checked his blog nothing there ?

http://posixninja.blogspot.com/2010/04/complications.html

keane2097 wrote: »

Is it now possible to get an untethered jailbreak for a phone with 3.12 currently running with a tethered JB??

It should be available in the next 2 weeks or so.

Stuxnet · 13-04-2010 05:36PM

Stainless_Steel wrote: »

I hate jailbreaks!!!

Well I understand it if you want to use a different phone network.

lol lol lol

ignorance is bliss young grasshopper

Stainless_Steel · 13-04-2010 05:39PM

BOBBY wrote: »

lol lol lol

ignorance is bliss young grasshopper

lol grasshopper.

I understand jail breaks well actually

Jax Teller · 13-04-2010 05:53PM

It says unlock prob won't be out till new iPhone is out

drunkmonkey · 13-04-2010 06:13PM

keysersoze_88 wrote: »

It says unlock prob won't be out till new iPhone is out

New iphone or New iphone OS?:rolleyes:

Jax Teller · 13-04-2010 06:14PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

New iphone or New iphone OS?:rolleyes:

********To all the people asking about an unlock, you're probably going to be waiting until the next iPhone is released. Since it hasn't even been announced yet, there's no telling how long the wait is going to be.
That's what it says

superdextaa · 13-04-2010 06:27PM

ok so let me get this clear. the new 3gs that vodafone sent me out today can niether be unlocked or jailbroken cos its 3.1.3 / 05.12??????
this is not good cos i live in uk and was only using me old mans upgrade to get it with the intention of taking it back to uk wif me

GREAT NEWS -Untethered Jailbreak .

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