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Petrol tank destroyed with Petseal any way out? .

  • 07-05-2008 02:50PM
    #1
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭


    I purchased a can of Petseal which was in date at an auto jumble on tainey road. I mixed it according to directions and sealed the inside of a vintage motorcycle tank with it. A year later I had the bike restored to concours with a brand new carb fitted to it and got the mag rewound. When it is started it will cut out within minutes. I stripped down the carb and to my horror saw the needle all gummed up, all the inside of the tank a total mess. :( Is there any solvent availible that would remove this cr**P from my tank? http://www.bikersdiscountstore.co.uk/acatalog/Petseal.html


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  • #2
    BeardyGit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,943 ✭✭✭BeardyGit


    Never heard of it. I read that link you posted though, and right at the bottom I saw this:

    "Petseal Solvent
    If you need to remove Petseal for any reason, welding etc, then Petseal Solvent will remove any existing resin coating.

    NEVER use Petseal Solvent in a fibreglass tank, it will disolve the whole tank!
    Price: £22.95 (Including VAT at 17.5%)"

    :D


  • #3
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Gil_Dub wrote: »
    Never heard of it. I read that link you posted though, and right at the bottom I saw this:

    "Petseal Solvent
    If you need to remove Petseal for any reason, welding etc, then Petseal Solvent will remove any existing resin coating.

    NEVER use Petseal Solvent in a fibreglass tank, it will disolve the whole tank!
    Price: £22.95 (Including VAT at 17.5%)"

    :D
    They sell you a product and then have the audacity to charge you to get rid of it when it dosn't work, that takes the biscuit :mad: Im sure its ordinary acitone that they use, ie the same stuff used to break down fiberglass with.


  • #4
    iansroadster
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1 ✭iansroadster


    I have just had the same headache myself, bought a beautifull Norton Commando Roadster a couple of years ago and found that it had had petseal put in the tank. It had started leaking again as the sealant had started to come away in big chunks:(. I did a search on the Net and found a company called Tank Care Products www.tankcareproducts.co.uk they have an online shop which was easy to use, but I wanted to make sure they were cosher before parting with the money. I phoned them and the guy was really helpfull, and gave me some advice on using the stuff.
    I ordered some Petseal Remover and Some of their New Tank Sealant, which is a single part sealant which dries like a plastic coating.
    The parcel arrived after about 3 days and I set about prepairing the tank. There were no instructions sheets in the box, but as there are instructions on the tins and on the website it was ok:). The Remover worked a treat, and as it says it turns the Petseal into easily removable flakes. After I had preasure washed the tank out with soapy water I left it to dry for a few days and the used the Sealant. Easy stuff to use, but really stinks:eek:! glad I bought the bigger tin as it takes a while to get an even coat. Drained out the excess, as you can re-use it for further coats. Left it for about 3 days in my garden shed and then fitted the tank and filled it, no more leaks:)!
    Been in there for a year or so now and no problems!


  • #5
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Wouldn't touch Petseal again with a barge pole, destroyed a good carb and had my bike off the road for weeks. :mad:


  • #6
    guzzitrike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 ✭guzzitrike


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    I purchased a can of Petseal which was in date at an auto jumble on tainey road. I mixed it according to directions and sealed the inside of a vintage motorcycle tank with it. A year later I had the bike restored to concours with a brand new carb fitted to it and got the mag rewound. When it is started it will cut out within minutes. I stripped down the carb and to my horror saw the needle all gummed up, all the inside of the tank a total mess. :( Is there any solvent availible that would remove this cr**P from my tank? http://www.bikersdiscountstore.co.uk/acatalog/Petseal.html

    Hi I also purchased a tin of petseal at a auto jumble in Dundrum, now I used petseal before on my Triumph tank (all was fine) but this time after two weeks it started to soften, I asked about and most people said 1 get
    petseal remover 2 get a kit called pro15 by www.frost.co.uk stage 1 Marine clean stage 2 Metal ready stage 3 Tank sealer . I will never use petseal again,I have just orderd pro 15 hopes it is as good as people say


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  • #7
    macplaxton
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 2,913 Mod ✭✭✭✭macplaxton


    I'm guessing that the old stuff doesn't like ethanol in modern petrol. Ordinary unleaded can have up to 5-10% in which doesn't do some fuel system parts any good.

    That's my conclusion as to why Petseal melted away.

    If sealing a tank, make sure that the sealer can withstand ethanol. (that the ****ers sneak into the mix)

    FBHVC link on fuel

    Have a Google for "Petseal ethanol".


  • #8
    Rust or Weld
    Closed Accounts Posts: 99 ✭✭Rust or Weld


    guzzitrike wrote: »
    Hi I also purchased a tin of petseal at a auto jumble in Dundrum, now I used petseal before on my Triumph tank (all was fine) but this time after two weeks it started to soften, I asked about and most people said 1 get
    petseal remover 2 get a kit called pro15 by www.frost.co.uk stage 1 Marine clean stage 2 Metal ready stage 3 Tank sealer . I will never use petseal again,I have just orderd pro 15 hopes it is as good as people say

    i used the frost stuff on a tank 3 odd years ago perfect ever since.


  • #9
    Rust or Weld
    Closed Accounts Posts: 99 ✭✭Rust or Weld


    guzzitrike wrote: »
    Hi I also purchased a tin of petseal at a auto jumble in Dundrum, now I used petseal before on my Triumph tank (all was fine) but this time after two weeks it started to soften, I asked about and most people said 1 get
    petseal remover 2 get a kit called pro15 by www.frost.co.uk stage 1 Marine clean stage 2 Metal ready stage 3 Tank sealer . I will never use petseal again,I have just orderd pro 15 hopes it is as good as people say

    i used the frost stuff on a tank 3 odd years ago perfect ever since.
    its Por15 (paint over rust)15


  • #10
    guzzitrike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 ✭guzzitrike


    Rust or Weld wrote: »
    i used the frost stuff on a tank 3 odd years ago perfect ever since.
    its Por15 (paint over rust)15

    Sorry my mistake its por 15


  • #11
    FiSe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 821 ✭✭✭FiSe


    Using Petseal all the time, no problems at all, even after a few years. 1st time I've use it was 3 yrs ago, to be precise.

    It seems to me, that there was something wrong with either the original mixture of the stuff or with the curing time/temperature or so...

    POR15 is pretty good stuff too.

    iansroadster, nice plug for...yorself? :rolleyes:


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  • #12
    guzzitrike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 ✭guzzitrike


    FiSe wrote: »
    Using Petseal all the time, no problems at all, even after a few years. 1st time I've use it was 3 yrs ago, to be precise.

    It seems to me, that there was something wrong with either the original mixture of the stuff or with the curing time/temperature or so...

    POR15 is pretty good stuff too.

    iansroadster, nice plug for...yorself? :rolleyes:

    Maybe ? but the date was ok, the mixture was fine the same as I done
    before on my Triumph tank years ago, I also left the tank for 4 days in
    my house , the petseal was rock hard its when I put the petrol in the problem started, so never again, I have get rid of the petseal and start again, this time ill use por 15


  • #13
    ikb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 167 ✭✭ikb


    guzzitrike wrote: »
    Maybe ? but the date was ok, the mixture was fine the same as I done
    before on my Triumph tank years ago, I also left the tank for 4 days in
    my house , the petseal was rock hard its when I put the petrol in the problem started, so never again, I have get rid of the petseal and start again, this time ill use por 15

    I also used the POR 15 from Frost. 3 years ago in my porus mk3 zodiac fuel tank.
    Have had no problems.Be sure to use as instructed, Its a 3 part kit (as has been stated)...Flushing, priming... sealing. Works well:)


  • #14
    DanThe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 55 ✭✭DanThe


    I saw a tank treated with petseal before, It wasn't great at all.
    The POR15 stuff is ace. You need to follow the instructions carefully and it is very time consuming following the steps and then drying the tank out completely.

    The end result is fantastic. I had a very badly rusted tank and after treating with this stuff it is like new and the paint sets as hard as a rock.

    Really good stuff.


    PS Don't get it on your shoes or washing machine... it is still there 5 years later.

    PPS I got the por15 kit from holden.co.uk they had much cheaper postage than frost.


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