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USA: Toyota to suspend sales of Lexus GX 460

  • 14-04-2010 08:54AM
    #1
    route66
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭


    From the BBC Website (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/business/8618585.stm):
    Consumer Reports said it had judged the Lexus GX 460 a "Don't Buy: Safety Risk" because of a problem experienced during its standard emergency-handling tests.
    "When pushed to its limits on our track's handling course, the rear of the GX we bought slid out until the vehicle was almost sideways before the electronic stability control system was able to regain control," it said.
    <stating the bleeding obvious>
    It's called oversteer :confused:Is it really surprising when a 4X4 with a high centre of gravity doesn't handle like a FWD hatchback? Is there no longer an asumption that people have a brain and can actually use it? Wonder what they would have said about, say, a Peugeot 205 GTI?
    </stating the bleeding obvious>


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  • #2
    Saab Ed
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭Saab Ed


    Yeah its in the times aswell....

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2010/0414/breaking12.html

    The American car industry is just loving this. Its a chance fot them to put the boot into their biggest nemesis and they aint gonna let it go.


  • #3
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,441 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Saab Ed wrote: »
    The American car industry is just loving this. Its a chance fot them to put the boot into their biggest nemesis and they aint gonna let it go.

    :confused:

    Toyota themselves decided to suspend the sales of the GX, didn't they?

    Anyway aren't Toyota sales in the US up 40% since last year? Incredible figure, they must be giving them away over there or maybe buyers never lost confidence in the built quality despite of the recalls and massive fines for keeping the problems a secret?

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  • #4
    af_thefragile
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,171 ✭✭✭af_thefragile


    The americans are really set for ruining Toyota's "unbreakable" reputation that they have build over the past decades in under a year!

    Why do these sorta things only happen in America? Why not in Europe or Asia where a lot of Toyotas are sold?

    The Americans seem to be getting desperate to get people buy their cars and they're not doing this by showing their cars are better but by trying to defame the competition.

    This is very poor on their part.


  • #5
    peasant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    Is this the US version of the elk-test ?


  • #6
    Max_Damage
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,461 ✭✭✭Max_Damage


    The same thing happened to the Ford Explorer in the 90's (stuck accelerator, roll over risk, Firestone conterversy, etc.) Not as much fuss was made about that.

    According to Wiki, the Lexus GX is pretty much the same vehicle as the Land Cruiser Prado here.


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  • #7
    Saab Ed
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭Saab Ed


    unkel wrote: »
    :confused:

    Toyota themselves decided to suspend the sales of the GX, didn't they?

    Only because of the hammering they would have got from the US press had they not have said a thing which is the Toyota culture normaly ;)


  • #8
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,546 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    this is the US version of the Land Cruiser by the way.

    There's only so much that driver aids can do.


  • #9
    EPM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭EPM


    Max_Damage wrote: »
    The same thing happened to the Ford Explorer in the 90's (stuck accelerator, roll over risk, Firestone conterversy, etc.) Not as much fuss was made about that.

    +1

    They really have got it in for Toyota


  • #10
    af_thefragile
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,171 ✭✭✭af_thefragile


    The Toyota Hilux failed the Moose test as well.
    It was deemed less than ideal for making abrupt turns and only driver skill could stop it tumbling over.

    Toyota stopped the production of Hilux with 16" wheels after that. No fuss was made...


  • #11
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,546 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    af_thefragile wrote: »
    The Toyota Hilux failed the Moose test as well.
    It was deemed less than ideal for making abrupt turns and only driver skill could stop it tumbling over.

    Toyota stopped the production of Hilux with 16" wheels after that. No fuss was made...
    the ones we got (05 onwards) had 15 inch wheels AFAIK


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  • #12
    af_thefragile
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,171 ✭✭✭af_thefragile


    Also these cars aren't built to be trashed around a track. Unlike most modern SUV's built for the road which can't go off road. The Land Cruiser is a proper off roader with soft suspension, soft steering and high center of gravity. Its built to be driven in deserts and forests at not very high speeds. What makes it good off road makes it bad on road.

    The Land Cruiser isn't the best car to drive on the road and most people know that when they buy a Land Cruiser and that is not why they buy the car. They buy it cuz when you take it off road, no other car can come close to its abilities.

    Stupid americans are just set on finding faults with Toyotas to ruin their reputation so that the stupid americans can buy a Chevy Tahoe instead.


  • #13
    keithclancy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    af_thefragile wrote: »
    The Toyota Hilux failed the Moose test as well.
    It was deemed less than ideal for making abrupt turns and only driver skill could stop it tumbling over.

    Toyota stopped the production of Hilux with 16" wheels after that. No fuss was made...

    Either that or it passed fantastically ..

    Ran the moose over, no damage and had room in the back to bring it home for dinner later.


  • #14
    Zonda999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,534 ✭✭✭Zonda999


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    the ones we got (05 onwards) had 15 inch wheels AFAIK

    You see plenty of them with 20" rims though!

    The Americans truly are trying to destroy Toyota alright, a shame really because although i'm no toyota fan, their cars are still a damn side better engineered and built than a lot of their own GM and Chrysler rubbish


  • #15
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,244 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    unkel wrote: »
    :
    Anyway aren't Toyota sales in the US up 40% since last year? Incredible figure, they must be giving them away over there or maybe buyers never lost confidence in the built quality despite of the recalls and massive fines for keeping the problems a secret?

    Wasnt last year a disaster?


  • #16
    JHMEG
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭JHMEG


    Stekelly wrote:
    Wasnt last year a disaster?

    It was. Toyota reported their first loss in something like 300 years. Losses for Japanese companies are not trendy.


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