Limerick life after Dell RTE 9.35 tonight.

munstergirl · 12-05-2010 03:48PM #1

Life after Dell, ready for all the doom + gloom. I can only imagine.
Every time limerick on the telly seems doom + gloom.
Hopefully there will be some success stories too.

xsiborg · 12-05-2010 10:05PM

that was a serious let down now in all fairness! :rolleyes:

Hill Bicks · 12-05-2010 10:08PM

what happens to the empty manufacturing plant? did they sell or move all the machinery and could an Irish start up use the facility?

DarkJager · 12-05-2010 10:10PM

I was expecting more from this to be honest, very light on substance. They got some nice shots of the city though.

Firefox11 · 12-05-2010 10:29PM

Hill Bicks wrote: »

what happens to the empty manufacturing plant? did they sell or move all the machinery and could an Irish start up use the facility?

It's empty and up for sale/let. All the equipment has been auctioned off. It's simply too big for a single start up but i could see it being split up into sections and have several start-up's working in there. its an excellent facility.

munstergirl · 12-05-2010 10:38PM

It wasn't as doom + gloom as i expected which is good.

Limerick looked nice.

Pity they didn't show the knock on effects, a lots of people who never worked for Dell have been effected too and never got redundancy.

Anyway life goes on

xsiborg · 12-05-2010 11:27PM

munstergirl wrote: »

Pity they didn't show the knock on effects, a lots of people who never worked for Dell have been effected too and never got redundancy

yes, i was hoping to see that highlighted too, given that there two weeks ago i had two friends down from dublin and i decided to take them down cruises street, most of the shops were closed down and gone, it was embarrassing!

limerick has become a ghost town and i found myself wondering why the hell are they showing poland? that guys a farmer, he at least has an income! the guy on the dole (who wasn't an ex-dell employee) came across as mr. "hard maahhnnn", an embarrassing representation of limerick, and as for the guy from the DRWA, well, that leaves the other 1,887 ex-dell workers that we didnt hear anything about, plus as you say all the secondary workers.

the makers of the documentary could have done a much better job by interviewing local business owners and people on the street, now, even go out on the street in the morning, stand on an empty criuses street (once a bustling busy street) and you'll see what life "after dell" is like in limerick.

Poxyshamrock · 12-05-2010 11:30PM

Limerick doesn't deserve its reputation according to the fella who was going to dig the face off the social welfare worker :rolleyes:

Aidric · 12-05-2010 11:53PM

Don't agree with any of the above sentiments. I thought this was a very solid production. It was primarily a human interest piece and benefitted greatly from no narrative. The stories were heartfelt and moving and managed to convey well the human cost of the Dell closure.
It was never intended to be an economic analaysis, rather a character story. I thought Tommy was a breath of fresh air on the programme. He was trying to stay positive amidst the gloom of unemployment and the comment about the social worker was just out of frustration. I thought it was funny actually.
Denis Ryan emerged with a lot of credit from this programme. The man got off his hole and fought hard for workers futures. He should be commended.

xsiborg · 13-05-2010 12:27AM

Aidric wrote: »

Don't agree with any of the above sentiments. I thought this was a very solid production. It was primarily a human interest piece and benefitted greatly from no narrative. The stories were heartfelt and moving and managed to convey well the human cost of the Dell closure.

aah right, ok NOW i see the angle where they were coming from, a human interest piece, i misunderstood, i was expecting a bit more like a prime time special...

Aidric wrote: »

It was never intended to be an economic analaysis, rather a character story. I thought Tommy was a breath of fresh air on the programme.

He was trying to stay positive amidst the gloom of unemployment and the comment about the social worker was just out of frustration. I thought it was funny actually.

the makers could have surely had the common sense to edit out some of tommy's "frustrations"/confrontations, and not have him appear on national tv seemingly lacking the intelligence to coherently make a point. turning said fresh air blue and making threats of violence, broadcast on national tv, could have landed him in hot water, frustrations or not! even the fact you thought it was humorous when it was meant to convey frustration, negates its poignance if you get me?

Aidric wrote: »

Denis Ryan emerged with a lot of credit from this programme. The man got off his hole and fought hard for workers futures. He should be commended.

i'd love to agree with you here, i really would, as i do admire the man for his organisational skills, and the fact that he did step up and give a **** about others besides himself. but, a commendation? an article in the limerick post? a peoples award? no, i do agree with you, but what form of recognition could he get really?

DarkJager · 13-05-2010 01:15AM

Poxyshamrock wrote: »

Limerick doesn't deserve its reputation according to the fella who was going to dig the face off the social welfare worker :rolleyes:

Have you tried dealing with the social welfare here? I completely understand his frustration, and yes it certainly does get to a point where you are just about ready to go pay an angry visit in person after 300+ attempts to find out where your claim is.

Scram · 13-05-2010 01:30AM

hmm its not on the rte player website wonder will it be was gonna watch this.

Delta Kilo · 13-05-2010 01:37AM

Scram wrote: »

hmm its not on the rte player website wonder will it be was gonna watch this.

Will be up tomorrow I'd imagine. It will definitely be put up, the only thing that gets put up with urgency on the player is the news.

I thought it was a good production. It can be argued that they should have edited out some of tommy's statements but for me that helps convey the harsh realities of life on the dole. Just my 2 cents.

As an aside, what side of limerick is/was the Dell plant?

falan · 13-05-2010 01:42AM

Sounds interesting. I too will try to catch it on the RTE player..

xsiborg · 13-05-2010 02:01AM

Delta Kilo wrote: »

Will be up tomorrow I'd imagine. It will definitely be put up, the only thing that gets put up with urgency on the player is the news.

I thought it was a good production. It can be argued that they should have edited out some of tommy's statements but for me that helps convey the harsh realities of life on the dole. Just my 2 cents.

As an aside, what side of limerick is/was the Dell plant?

it was out in raheen industrial estate, if thats any good to you?

if its not on the rte player anyway i have it recorded on sky+ if you were really that badly stuck to watch it... :eek:

Millie · 13-05-2010 07:28AM

Delta Kilo wrote: »

I thought it was a good production. It can be argued that they should have edited out some of tommy's statements but for me that helps convey the harsh realities of life on the dole. Just my 2 cents.

I agree with you, the sheer frustration of being out of work for 12mnts plus and then the airheads in SW incorrectly deducting your weekly payment when you have a house and kids to feed....I'm pretty sure all of us would want to "dig the head" off them also.

Also think they got some great shots of the city which was nice for a change.

dermothickey · 13-05-2010 07:50AM

http://www.rte.ie/player/#v=1072631 its on rte player

petergfiffin · 13-05-2010 08:11AM

I thought overall it was pretty good. I think to truly capture the impact of what happened would take a series of programmes as if you tried to capture it all in one programme it just loses focus so I'd say the producers just chose one angle and ran with that and did a good job. I also thought it was more powerful that you didn't have some annoying voice prattling on over it, the stories stood by themselves.

Regardless of what you might have thought about Tommy's language I think it really captured the frustration that builds up over when you have to deal with state agencies and their often pointless procedures. For me I thought the story of Mike was really powerful, to see the change from when he was on the dole to when he was finally on a training course and finally had a bit of hope....like watching 2 different men.

Berty · 13-05-2010 08:17AM

Delta Kilo wrote: »

As an aside, what side of limerick is/was the Dell plant?

Often confusion with some people about the location of the Dell Plant(s).

There were 4 buildings at the height of things. 3 in Raheen and one in Plassey. The white Dell building on the TV was EMF 3 which was the head office. Upstairs were the offices and the main production floor was in adjoining units behind.

The red brick building you saw them walking over to was EMF1, the original Dell Building. They have all moved back over to this building and the production floor(as it was years ago) has been sectioned off into offices now.

That's why they were traipsing over because HR & Payroll had moved back over there.

Raiser · 13-05-2010 08:50AM

Berty wrote: »

Often confusion with some people about the location of the Dell Plant(s).

There were 4 buildings at the height of things. 3 in Raheen and one in Plassey. The white Dell building on the TV was EMF 3 which was the head office. Upstairs were the offices and the main production floor was in adjoining units behind.

The red brick building you saw them walking over to was EMF1, the original Dell Building. They have all moved back over to this building and the production floor(as it was years ago) has been sectioned off into offices now.

That's why they were traipsing over because HR & Payroll had moved back over there.

I may be wrong, but wasn't this originally something else?

- Hopefully soon Dell will be as irrelevant and forgotten about to the People of Limerick.

Berty · 13-05-2010 08:53AM

Raiser wrote: »

- Hopefully soon Dell will be as irrelevant and forgotten about to the People of Limerick.

Cork people never forgot about Ford or Dunlop and its impact on their city so it may be spoken about less but never forgotten.

Raiser · 13-05-2010 09:01AM

Berty wrote: »

Cork people never forgot about Ford or Dunlop and its impact on their city so it may be spoken about less but never forgotten.

What was Limericks previous biggest closures?

Ferenka and AST are the two biggest that spring to mind.

SuperWoody101 · 13-05-2010 09:03AM

Raiser wrote: »

I may be wrong, but wasn't this originally something else?

- Hopefully soon Dell will be as irrelevant and forgotten about to the People of Limerick.

Yes it was Atari a long long time ago.

topper75 · 13-05-2010 10:11AM

Poxyshamrock wrote: »

Limerick doesn't deserve its reputation according to the fella who was going to dig the face off the social welfare worker :rolleyes:

LOL! Well spotted.

Was he not "only messin' sham" though?

munstergirl · 13-05-2010 10:37AM

I think i too would want to dig the head of social welfare if i had kids to feed + mortgage to pay + bills coming in the door.

At that stage of the program he had been on dole for about 1 year. And he's still getting messed about. Hopefully its sorted by now.

Anyway i hope he got the job he was hoping for.
If i was an employer i'd have no problem hiring someone honest + trying to stay positive,

Best of luck to all in the program. + all the others.

Berty · 13-05-2010 11:00AM

Raiser wrote: »

What was Limericks previous biggest closures?

Ferenka and AST are the two biggest that spring to mind.

I dont know what Ferenka was but I know a lot of people from Wang went to AST and most of those went onto Dell but then the bubble burst.

munstergirl wrote: »

I think i too would want to dig the head of social welfare if i had kids to feed + mortgage to pay + bills coming in the door.

At that stage of the program he had been on dole for about 1 year. And he's still getting messed about. Hopefully its sorted by now.

I respect your opinion but here's mine.(joy of internet :rolleyes:)

He may have a loose tongue and say fvck this and fvck that but when he was in the Social Welfare office the mic was still on and he was fvcking the staff out of it. That's not respectful and I thought "to hell with him" when I heard that.

I highlighted "I think I would" but you don't tell the staff that you want to, that's threatening behaviour and when you visit / work in the social welfare office you understand quite quickly why they have that glass between them and "us". I have heard some heated arguments in there.

His wife was correct though in one sense. She said that they expect you to know their own internal process about filling in forms, how long you wait and other stuff. I even had an R&R thread about my recent experiences in social but again you don't curse at them or threaten them.

Its nothing to do with our perception of Limerick on TV, its respectful to other human beings.

Raiser · 13-05-2010 11:05AM

Berty wrote: »

Its nothing to do with our perception of Limerick on TV, its respectful to other human beings.

True - but in another sense you do need to earn respect, its not an automatic right and if they were to fcuk People over then its disrespectful on their part as they are seriously threatening Peoples standard of living and that of their Families.

DarkJager · 13-05-2010 11:15AM

Until you've truly experienced how poor the SW is run, you can't begin to imagine the frustration of dealing with them. You call the phone number, ask about your claim, get put on hold and then cut off. You ring again, no one answers. You ring again, talk to someone, and they blow you off telling you to call back in a week. 1 week later, still no payment, you ring again and it repeats.

In my own experience, I spent nearly 2 months waiting for a backpay cheque from them when I was being told everytime I rang that it would be with me within a couple of days. The banks, credit unions and car finance companies don't wait for the SW, so you can imagine the bills stack up fast. Now add to that a SW office which is completely uninterested in helping you, can't give you a straight answer as to when you will get payment and it becomes nightmarishly frustrating very fast.

I'm normally a calm person, but my attempts to get answers from the SW actually started to make me feel sick with anger. Every day the post shows up and yet again there's no cheque, you can't help but feel the rage building up in you. And you can imagine when that rage is constantly building up, week after week, you do get to a point where you are ready to go get answers with your fists.

campo · 13-05-2010 01:14PM

topper75 wrote: »

LOL! Well spotted.

Was he not "only messin' sham" though?

I used to work with Tommy in a previous job and he was always like that a bit of a hot head but harmless was the type of guy that could say something to you and apologies a few mins later, really felt for him last night as he is just a normal joe soap with a young family trying to put food on the table

sleepyman · 13-05-2010 01:24PM

Really felt for all of them.Tommy is trying to stay positive so fair play to him in that respect.
Where is this government's job strategy?
All I see & hear is Brian Lenihan trying to balance the books when creating & retaining jobs should be the order of the day.

katece1121 · 13-05-2010 01:28PM

One of the reasons they are bad in there is that the staff are untrained and left to figure things out for themselves...its a horrible job I'd say.

I thought it was a big let down - it was just of no substance whatsoever.....no one really spoke of their real feelings and there didnt seem to be extreme hardship on anyone. The elderly country man was probably the most honest in it. I guess he gave a good outlook of the emotional side of losing a job and how its not all about money.

Kess73 · 13-05-2010 02:14PM

Berty wrote: »

I dont know what Ferenka was but I know a lot of people from Wang went to AST and most of those went onto Dell but then the bubble burst.

I respect your opinion but here's mine.(joy of internet :rolleyes:)

He may have a loose tongue and say fvck this and fvck that but when he was in the Social Welfare office the mic was still on and he was fvcking the staff out of it. That's not respectful and I thought "to hell with him" when I heard that.

I highlighted "I think I would" but you don't tell the staff that you want to, that's threatening behaviour and when you visit / work in the social welfare office you understand quite quickly why they have that glass between them and "us". I have heard some heated arguments in there.

His wife was correct though in one sense. She said that they expect you to know their own internal process about filling in forms, how long you wait and other stuff. I even had an R&R thread about my recent experiences in social but again you don't curse at them or threaten them.

Its nothing to do with our perception of Limerick on TV, its respectful to other human beings.

Yep, as frustrated as I got with the delays I had in there, I made sure to be polite when in there and never lost the head with any of the counter staff because at the end of the day they are just doing a job based on what they have to follow.

Anytime I wanted to complain about something, I would ask for a supervisor but make clear to the person at the counter that I had no problem with them just with the system that was in place.

And now when I go in once a month to sign on, I make sure to say good morning and make some small chat. It costs me nothing to be nice, and from having worked in retail for years I know what it is like to interact with people across a counter, so I try to treat people in the same way I liked to be treated when I was dealing with the public.

I keep my swearing in those situations for when I go back home or to the car and have a good whinge to myself.

I must say that I felt for the man called Mike in the show. He came across as a man who liked having a routine and a simple life, and there was a quiet dignity about him, and you could almost see shame in the man when he was not working, not that he had anything to be ashamed of.

The overall show was a missed opportunity I think. It should have been either split over a few weeks at an hour a time, or been done in one go with a length of about two hours. I also think that the lack of the promised funding should have been addressed, and both elected and local authorities who were quick to make promises after the initial news should have been approached with regards to what they promised against what was actually done.

Berty · 13-05-2010 02:23PM

Kess73 wrote: »

The overall show was a missed opportunity I think. It should have been either split over a few weeks at an hour a time, or been done in one go with a length of about two hours. I also think that the lack of the promised funding should have been addressed, and both elected and local authorities who were quick to make promises after the initial news should have been approached with regards to what they promised against what was actually done.

Unfortunately there is no RTE Limerick so people from outside of Limerick wouldn't care that much at all.

If there was a show about people from Waterford Crystal I wouldn't be going out of my way to watch it.

Aidric · 13-05-2010 02:38PM

Kess73 wrote: »

The overall show was a missed opportunity I think. It should have been either split over a few weeks at an hour a time, or been done in one go with a length of about two hours. I also think that the lack of the promised funding should have been addressed, and both elected and local authorities who were quick to make promises after the initial news should have been approached with regards to what they promised against what was actually done.

As I said in my earlier post this wasn't an economic or political analysis of the situation. It was a human interest piece. They dealt with funding viz a viz the European structural fund. If you were watching there were representatives from the European parliament at the meetings in the South Court, Sean Kelly & Alan Kelly were two such members. Then again maybe you are just looking to have another pop at local councillors and TD's.
As for the people having a pop at a clearly frustrated Tommy, laughable tbh.

Kess73 · 13-05-2010 02:52PM

Aidric wrote: »

As I said in my earlier post this wasn't an economic or political analysis of the situation. It was a human interest piece. They dealt with funding viz a viz the European structural fund. If you were watching there were representatives from the European parliament at the meetings in the South Court, Sean Kelly & Alan Kelly were two such members. Then again maybe you are just looking to have another pop at local councillors and TD's.
As for the people having a pop at a clearly frustrated Tommy, laughable tbh.

No I was not saying it just to have a go at local councillors, but I do think that following up on promises made by them and the Tanaiste is still relevant even if the show was taken as purely a human interest piece.

Those promises had an effect on people when they were made in that it gave a glimmer of hope to some, so for those that saw nothing materialise, it was a crushing blow, one that would be relevant in a human interest piece, and I think it would have done a lot to explain further some of the frustrations on show during the piece.

But if you want to simply see what I said as me having trying to have a go at those councillors and TDs, then that is your choice.

Kess73 · 13-05-2010 02:57PM

Berty wrote: »

Unfortunately there is no RTE Limerick so people from outside of Limerick wouldn't care that much at all.

If there was a show about people from Waterford Crystal I wouldn't be going out of my way to watch it.

That is where I will disagree with you. If the show had been longer and touched more on promises made etc, and gone into more detail with regards to the social welfare process, and the impact that had.

If it had added a bit more from a political and economic viewpoint to the human interest story, then they could have ended up with a show that had people all over the country saying "that happened to me" or "I was told something like that" despite living in other counties and having worked elsewhere or having lost jobs elsewhere.

The being from Limerick bit would not be the relevant bit then, but the experience that the featured people were and are going through would become more, imho, real tp people in the same boat all over the country.

Aidric · 13-05-2010 05:13PM

Kess73 wrote: »

No I was not saying it just to have a go at local councillors, but I do think that following up on promises made by them and the Tanaiste is still relevant even if the show was taken as purely a human interest piece.

Those promises had an effect on people when they were made in that it gave a glimmer of hope to some, so for those that saw nothing materialise, it was a crushing blow, one that would be relevant in a human interest piece, and I think it would have done a lot to explain further some of the frustrations on show during the piece.

Hang on. 14.5 million was made available to workers made redundant through a European globalisation fund. This was to be used for retraining and viable new business start up's.
Therefore I'm not sure what you mean by 'saw nothing materialise'. A Mid West task force was established by the Tanaiste and chaired by Denis Brosnan. They delivered an interim report in July 09. An action plan on the back of that is attempting to address the key findings, in as much as possible within the restrictions of the 2010 city and county council budgets.

That Interim report can be found here

The Dept of Enterprise response from Jan 10 can be found here

Kess73 · 13-05-2010 06:21PM

Aidric wrote: »

Hang on. 14.5 million was made available to workers made redundant through a European globalisation fund. This was to be used for retraining and viable new business start up's.
Therefore I'm not sure what you mean by 'saw nothing materialise'. A Mid West task force was established by the Tanaiste and chaired by Denis Brosnan. They delivered an interim report in July 09. An action plan on the back of that is attempting to address the key findings, in as much as possible within the restrictions of the 2010 city and county council budgets.

That Interim report can be found here

The Dept of Enterprise response from Jan 10 can be found here

Both reports you have linked are not specific to what I am talking about though. Both are for the region as a whole and do not go into great detail on the Dell lost jobs and the knock on lost jobs.

Actually the fund set up was announced as being 23 million, 14.8 million from the European Commission with the rest meant to come from the government, and yes a report was delivered in 2009 and another plan was put in place early this year.

But going by comments on Live95FM this morning on this very subject it seems that things are not progressing in the manner it was put on paper. There were claims made on the radio this morning as to how much of the fund has actually been released and used by the workers from Dell and those who were affected by Dell. The figures mentioned on the show are the ones I would like to see either verified as being true or verified as incorrect and the proper version put forward.

I could not care less what reports or speeches Mary Coughlan gave about what is going to be done, I would be more curious to actually see accurate figures as to what has been done, and how many of the ex workers have been put on courses or alternative schemes or employment against how many are still waiting for anything at all to come from the Action plan and fund.

A2LUE42 · 13-05-2010 06:29PM

Raiser wrote: »

I may be wrong, but wasn't this originally something else?

- Hopefully soon Dell will be as irrelevant and forgotten about to the People of Limerick.

There are still 1000 people employed by Dell in Limerick.

Raiser · 13-05-2010 07:56PM

A2LUE42 wrote: »

There are still 1000 people employed by Dell in Limerick.

Is it that many, never realised it was that kind of number? Sorry to all concerned for overlooking this when I made that earlier dumb comment re. hopefully Dell will be gone forever!!!

filthymcnasty · 13-05-2010 08:28PM

xsiborg wrote: »

yes, i was hoping to see that highlighted too, given that there two weeks ago i had two friends down from dublin and i decided to take them down cruises street, most of the shops were closed down and gone, it was embarrassing!

limerick has become a ghost town and i found myself wondering why the hell are they showing poland? that guys a farmer, he at least has an income! the guy on the dole (who wasn't an ex-dell employee) came across as mr. "hard maahhnnn", an embarrassing representation of limerick, and as for the guy from the DRWA, well, that leaves the other 1,887 ex-dell workers that we didnt hear anything about, plus as you say all the secondary workers.

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fecks sake all the guy had was a few ducks and hens!- wasn't like Southfork or anything.
I thought it was a good program- had a lot of empathy for all concerned- didn't think tommy was trying to be a 'hard man'- i'd say just very frustrated with his situation.
But he would have come across better if someone edited a bit of his stronger language.

xsiborg · 13-05-2010 10:12PM

filthymcnasty wrote: »

fecks sake all the guy had was a few ducks and hens!

not withstanding about €30k in redundancy money lump sum after 11 years service, poor fellow... :rolleyes:

SHOCKER: the media are very adept at not showing the full picture when it suits them. that wasnt fresh air he was walking on either, that was land, and lots of it, and a fine big hayshed!

filthymcnasty wrote: »

But he would have come across better if someone edited a bit of his stronger language.

yes, i did make this point earlier, the producers could, and SHOULD have edited those scenes out. i think we all would have understood his frustration with the situation, there was no need to show potential future employers these scenes.

Berty · 13-05-2010 10:16PM

xsiborg wrote: »

not withstanding about €30k in redundancy money after 11 years service, poor fellow... :rolleyes:

Money cannot cure depression or loneliness. I have felt very dispondent since losing my job recently.

He did say he was glad to be on the course with people to talk to. He said he missed his friends at work.

xsiborg · 13-05-2010 10:43PM

Berty wrote: »

Money cannot cure depression or loneliness. I have felt very dispondent since losing my job recently.

He did say he was glad to be on the course with people to talk to. He said he missed his friends at work.

fair point, well made. i do apologise to posters if i come across as a bit narky or picky and snipey, its just that i meet a lot of people that are very bitter about the way dell left and they are now unemployed, but when they were in dell it was hell and so on.

unemployment is a terrible thing to befall anyone and i wouldnt wish it on anyone because i understand the emotional turmoil it causes, but in these times of economic doom and gloom its time to pick ourselves up and start seeing the positives that for too long the celtic tiger had us take for granted.

we should see unemployment as a new opportunity to "re-invent" ourselves and kick start a new chapter in our lives, maybe look to starting our own business doing something we're good at, something we feel passionate about, create employment opportunities for ourselves so that we're not dependent on these large multi-nationals any more, a "micro-economy" as such.

lets be honest, we cant depend on the politicians, we cant depend on the banks, we can only depend on ourselves, and start to realise the value and support of those around us. we can either fall back and "accept" that unemployment is destined to be our lot for the foreseeable future, or we can change it, small steps will lead on to bigger and better things.

im self employed myself, so even though much of what i just said may sound like an incoherent rant (i am sadly lacking Raisers eloquence!

), point being ladies and gentlemen, that we have it within ourselves to get ourselves out of this mess, all it takes is a little belief in oneself...

/rant... really hadnt intended to go on this long! tl;dr even for me!

talkingclock · 14-05-2010 07:25AM

Berty wrote: »

Money cannot cure depression or loneliness. I have felt very dispondent since losing my job recently.

He did say he was glad to be on the course with people to talk to. He said he missed his friends at work.

where are those friends from work now? vanished, disappeared, emigrated? all of them? why not try to find out their mobile numbers, ring and meeting them at home/in the park/or even in a pub to have a chat?

That's what I've done with my friends from work after leaving a company... Is it that complicated?

dermothickey · 14-05-2010 07:52AM

The guy lives on the Limerick/Kerry border that's about an hour away from Limerick, it may have something to do with not meeting up with the lads in work anymore. I'd say it's the camaraderie in work he misses. The routine, the same faces the crack and joke at the breakfast table. Probably feels isolated where he is and people do tend to just leave and turn their backs on the old job and get on with their lives.

Millie · 14-05-2010 08:37AM

talkingclock wrote: »

where are those friends from work now? vanished, disappeared, emigrated? all of them? why not try to find out their mobile numbers, ring and meeting them at home/in the park/or even in a pub to have a chat?

That's what I've done with my friends from work after leaving a company... Is it that complicated?

But it's the routine and the sense of purpose and belonging to something that he missed.
You can't meet up with your friends everyday so I'm sure it was the isolation and trying to fill the day that he found the hardest.

Stab*City · 14-05-2010 09:43AM

Berty wrote: »

Money cannot cure depression or loneliness. I have felt very dispondent since losing my job recently.

He did say he was glad to be on the course with people to talk to. He said he missed his friends at work.

If he is suffering from depression maybe he should see a doctor with his €30,000. work is for work not talking to "friends" so in that respect i feel nothing for him.. if there so called friends and not colleagues he shouldnt be that lonely as im sure they will drop round for a cup of tea..

Stab*City · 14-05-2010 09:52AM

I lost my Job 16 Months ago wheres my:

Documentary
Redundancy
Globalisation fund
Workers committee
Retraining

Nobody gave a rat's a** about me or my family or my repayments or my sanity and havent in 16 months.. The Dell workers should consider themselves very lucky that anyone even cares and for the fact they had a solid job for last 10 years and that they got redundancy and that they have the chance to be retrained.

Maybe if they werent all spending their wages in the south court bar at lunchtime for the last ten years they would be a little more well off and less depressed.. They were on decent money for years, along with a redundancy package.

Aidric · 14-05-2010 10:01AM

Christ above. ^^

Stab*City · 14-05-2010 10:04AM

Sorry if i sound heartless but ENOUGH with the ex Dell workers already! Next they will be having a reunion.

Limerick life after Dell RTE 9.35 tonight.

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