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American handicap v european handicap

  • 13-07-2010 02:37PM
    #1
    lfp
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    Mate of mine was telling me how his company was bringing out an American client to the K Club, the Island etc. The client was off 15, so my mate assumed he'd enjoy the challenge of the above listed courses. When they got around to playing the client said I'm an American 15, so to be fair that gives me a 20 in Ireland. They weren't playing for money or anything, simply stating a fact. During the round it was obvious the yank was 20+ as opposed to mid teens.

    Is this bull or is their system different or are the courses easier???


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  • #2
    IITYWYBMAD
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    They use the slope rating in the US, as do most European countries. I think they may need to introduce it here. So in answer, yes their handicap system is different.


  • #3
    soundsham
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    ya its a good system


  • #4
    carnsoreboxer
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    Its different allright - max ladies handicap in States is 54!!!


  • #5
    G1032
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    Yes, a very different system. Did my final year project comparing the two systems, and tried to find out which one was the fairest one. Our system turned out to be the most equitable system.


  • #6
    Kace
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    ronaldochokes wrote: »
    Yes, a very different system. Did my final year project comparing the two systems, and tried to find out which one was the fairest one. Our system turned out to be the most equitable system.

    Wow - interesting project. So any chance you could give us the quick elevator pitch on the two of them and how they compare / contrast ?


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  • #7
    G1032
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,250 ✭✭✭G1032


    Kace wrote: »
    Wow - interesting project. So any chance you could give us the quick elevator pitch on the two of them and how they compare / contrast ?

    Can't really remember too much now. It was back in 2002 that I did it. Tried to find it a few weeks ago but it's somewhere in the attic of my parents house!! I want to dig it out, so when I do I'll fill you in on the finer details.


  • #8
    NoelAPM
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    i thought the yanks played strokes all the time not stableford? so i had assumed there handicaps would be higher. shocker!


  • #9
    BunkerMentality
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    NoelAPM wrote: »
    i thought the yanks played strokes all the time not stableford? so i had assumed there handicaps would be higher. shocker!

    Just because the handicap is lower doesn't mean they get less strokes. You get different amount of extra shots depending on the slope rating of the course.. so if you're off 15 you might get only 14-15 on an easy course (easy according to slope rating) but you might get 20 on a harder course


  • #10
    mike12
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    Hi,
    As far as i know they take the Average of there last 20 rounds(not sure about that number)so if u play a lot of golf you handicap can vary a lot in a year also they dont have to be playing in a comp to put in a score every round they play counts if they want it to, every course has a slope rating like our SSS so that taken into account for handicap purposes, also have a feeling you dont have to be a member of a club. think thats basically it.
    Mike


  • #11
    G1032
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    mike12 wrote: »
    Hi,
    As far as i know they take the Average of there last 20 rounds(not sure about that number)so if u play a lot of golf you handicap can vary a lot in a year also they dont have to be playing in a comp to put in a score every round they play counts if they want it to, every course has a slope rating like our SSS so that taken into account for handicap purposes, also have a feeling you dont have to be a member of a club. think thats basically it.
    Mike

    Ya. thats correct. you don't have to be a member of a club and your score doesn't have to have been in a competitive round to be considered for handicap purposes.


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  • #12
    BunkerMentality
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 108 ✭✭BunkerMentality


    ronaldochokes wrote: »
    Ya. thats correct. you don't have to be a member of a club and your score doesn't have to have been in a competitive round to be considered for handicap purposes.

    In Sweden (where the handicap system is based on US rules) you have to be a member of a club. Non-competitive rounds can be considered for handicap purposes but need to be verified by someone else that has an official handicap.


  • #13
    ccmp
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    Can anyone tell me what handicap an us golfer plays off in an open competition here? also what handicap should a club here give an us golfer when he joins a club here?


  • #14
    BunkerMentality
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 108 ✭✭BunkerMentality


    ccmp wrote: »
    Can anyone tell me what handicap an us golfer plays off in an open competition here? also what handicap should a club here give an us golfer when he joins a club here?

    I would assume that since you need a CONGU handicap to play in open competitions he wouldn't be able to enter, and that when he joins a club he'd have to turn in 3 cards same as anyone else that joins a club. I could be wrong though.


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