7% absenteeism in HSE

omahaid · 05-10-2010 8:57pm #1

Mary Harney just said on Prime Time that there is a 7% absenteeism in the HSE which is twice the national average. Whats the story here? Is this true?

MagicMarker · 05-10-2010 9:00pm

Why would she lie about that? Surely she'd pick a more flattering number if she was going to lie? If anything she might be undercutting it a bit.

Kristopherus · 05-10-2010 9:02pm

What she did'nt say was that it is most relevant among so-called frontline staff. I wonder why?

hawkhead · 05-10-2010 9:05pm

Even if it is true its a bit rich coming from someone who is part of a government that in the midst of the biggest crisis we have faced went missing for most of the summer

dunsandin · 05-10-2010 9:22pm

7% absent, 45% unnecessary, 10% overpaid and 38% overworked - just to complete the set.

Cookie_Monster · 05-10-2010 9:30pm

dunsandin wrote: »

7% absent, 45% unnecessary, 10% overpaid and 38% overworked - just to complete the set.

I'd switch that 10 and 38 personally

dunsandin · 05-10-2010 9:32pm

Give me a break Cookie, It was hard enough making them add up to 100:D

duckysauce · 05-10-2010 9:42pm

bunch of lazy f8uckers same as most of the public form workers :cool: ( i cant get fired , dont know what job i do tools ) :eek:

20Cent · 05-10-2010 9:45pm

Maybe being surrounded by sick people all day has something to do with it.

dunsandin · 05-10-2010 9:45pm

Yeah, and all ...... are complete ......

Just thought I'd make another sweeping generalisation to keep yours company Ducky.

duckysauce · 05-10-2010 9:54pm

dunsandin wrote: »

Yeah, and all ...... are complete ......

Just thought I'd make another sweeping generalisation to keep yours company Ducky.

? dont get you ?

Scarab80 · 05-10-2010 9:57pm

Kristopherus wrote: »

What she did'nt say was that it is most relevant among so-called frontline staff. I wonder why?

http://www.examiner.ie/story/Ireland/idsnqlcwgb/rss2/

General support staff were absent most, and in hospitals in the north-east, including Our Lady of Lourdes in Drogheda and Monaghan General Hospital, rates peaked at more than 12%. This reflects an absence of two days a month each — double the HSE average.

Nursing staff across the health services were absent at a rate of 6.23%, showing they take less sick leave than their colleagues in portering, catering, community welfare and related grades, but more than medical, dental, management, administrative or health and social care professionals.

At the Central Remedial Clinic, which provides specialised services for children and adults with physical disabilities, support staff recorded sick rates of more than 16%.

Health and social care professionals were absent from a Cork-based service, which provides for children and adults with intellectual disability, at a rate of 13.6%.

ballsymchugh · 05-10-2010 10:01pm

20Cent wrote: »

Maybe being surrounded by sick people all day has something to do with it.

i'd say a fair amount of those dickacting within the HSE are unlikely to ever see a patient in their lives.

edit: jebus, after reading that report again, it's a small fair amount!

duckysauce · 05-10-2010 10:04pm

dunsandin wrote: »

Yeah, and all ...... are complete ......

Just thought I'd make another sweeping generalisation to keep yours company Ducky.

sweeping generalisation:eek: look at the facts 12 perecent jayus i have had 3 sick days in 10 years and i dont want a medal

20Cent · 05-10-2010 10:09pm

Just seeing Mary Harney on tv makes me want to call in sick tomorrow.

duckysauce · 05-10-2010 10:11pm

20Cent wrote: »

Just seeing Mary Harney on tv makes me want to call in sick tomorrow.

why ?

20Cent · 05-10-2010 10:14pm

duckysauce wrote: »

why ?

She is a reminder of how f'd up this gov is.
A minister for health who doesn't believe in a public health service.
Its like a minister for justice who doesn't think there should be Gardai.

dunsandin · 05-10-2010 10:15pm

duckysauce wrote: »

sweeping generalisation:eek: look at the facts 12 perecent jayus i have had 3 sick days in 10 years and i dont want a medal

And you probably won't get one Ducky, but I appreciate your reliability. I'm off whenever the mood takes me, but thats just me, and I'd be a hypocrite to chastise the nurses. If I had to clean sh1tt7 bottoms every day, I'd think bad of going in every now and then as well.

duckysauce · 05-10-2010 10:22pm

dunsandin wrote: »

If I had to clean sh1tt7 bottoms every day, I'd think bad of going in every now and then as well.

thats part of the job get a grip

Rented Mule · 05-10-2010 10:25pm

Is it just me or would you not expect people who work around sick patients to be sick more often ?

ballsymchugh · 05-10-2010 10:28pm

Rented Mule wrote: »

Is it just me or would you not expect people who work around sick patients to be sick more often ?

actually, their acquired immunity should be pretty robust. mild exposure to some diseases can be like vaccines. obviously not in all cases like the norovirus and sars though!

duckysauce · 05-10-2010 10:28pm

Rented Mule wrote: »

Is it just me or would you not expect people who work around sick patients to be sick more often ?

if it was real yeah of course

dunsandin · 05-10-2010 10:28pm

I'll grip anything, as long as its not sh1tt7. Doctors signed up for the money and prestige(???never got that one), admin signed up cos its easy and no sweat, and nurses signed up because they like helping people - then they realised people are rank, but it was too late. This is all a distraction. The rate of absenteeism is not the real issue, its just thrown up to undermine the rank and file. The real issue is the abject waste inherent in the system - waste of talent, waste of money, waste of patients lives and wasters generally.

omahaid · 05-10-2010 10:29pm

Rented Mule wrote: »

Is it just me or would you not expect people who work around sick patients to be sick more often ?

not really, I wouldn't expect people around crime all day to become criminals, most illnesses aren't contagious

20Cent · 05-10-2010 10:31pm

omahaid wrote: »

not really, I wouldn't expect people around crime all day to become criminals, most illnesses aren't contagious

Criminality isn't contagious.
Some illnesses are contagious.
Its a stressful job as well.

dunsandin · 05-10-2010 10:33pm

omahaid wrote: »

not really, I wouldn't expect people around crime all day to become criminals, most illnesses aren't contagious

Thats a good point, because I have never heard of a corrupted Guard or a Corupted prison officer. Oh no, hang on.........

duckysauce · 05-10-2010 10:33pm

dunsandin wrote: »

I'll grip anything, as long as its not sh1tt7. Doctors signed up for the money and prestige(???never got that one), admin signed up cos its easy and no sweat, and nurses signed up because they like helping people - then they realised people are rank, but it was too late. This is all a distraction. The rate of absenteeism is not the real issue, its just thrown up to undermine the rank and file. The real issue is the abject waste inherent in the system - waste of talent, waste of money, waste of patients lives and wasters generally.

then they realised people are rank -- they pay you , the general public are **** so why get into an industry to help them if you think they are stains?

NapoleonInRags · 05-10-2010 10:33pm

duckysauce wrote: »

sweeping generalisation:eek: look at the facts 12 perecent jayus i have had 3 sick days in 10 years and i dont want a medal

My aunt has been in the same job for 26 years and has not had one sick day in all that time..........she's a public servant by the way. Sorry to rain on your Sunday Indo stereotype

Scarab80 · 05-10-2010 10:36pm

20Cent wrote: »

Criminality isn't contagious.
Some illnesses are contagious.
Its a stressful job as well.

Yet the highest rates of absenteeism are not among those with the most exposure to those illnesses or those with the most stressful job.

And some of the highest rates were among people working with people with physical and intellectual disabilities.

??

Scofflaw · 05-10-2010 10:37pm

This is not a Politics thread. Nor does it deserve another home. duckysauce banned for a week for idiocy - upgraded for abusive response to moderation.

moderately,
Scofflaw

7% absenteeism in HSE

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