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Are there any well planned towns in Ireland?

  • 01-11-2010 08:31PM
    #1
    thetonynator
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    Clearly inspired by the other thread, but seeing as most of the towns in this country have been mentioned in it I thought it would be easier ask if there are any well planned/ properly designed towns in Ireland???

    I cant think of any decent ones myself . . .anyone?


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  • #2
    Orando Broom
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    Longford.




    Ah no kidding, it's an awful kip.


  • #3
    Overheal
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    thetonynator wrote: »
    Clearly inspired by the other thread, but seeing as most of the towns in this country have been mentioned in it I thought it would be easier ask if there are any well planned/ properly designed towns in Ireland???

    I cant think of any decent ones myself . . .anyone?
    Planned how exactly? The English Plantations established several Planned Layout towns. Most of the chaotic stuff happens at roads and junctions that become important - didnt you learn this in JC Geography?? I sure did.


  • #4
    Doyler92
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    I cant remember the names but supposedly the "new towns" in northern Ireland are well planned.


  • #5
    thetonynator
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    Overheal wrote: »
    Planned how exactly? The English Plantations established several Planned Layout towns. Most of the chaotic stuff happens at roads and junctions that become important - didnt you learn this in JC Geography?? I sure did.

    Well planned as in they actually work
    -no ridiculously narrow streets
    -no bottleneck junctions
    -minimal ghost estates
    -footpaths that are wide enough for people to meet
    -appropriate pedestrian crossings etc.

    yes i did learn it in jc geography . . .


  • #6
    HavingCrack
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    Very few Irish towns or cities are particularly well planned. Possibly Derry would be the best in Northern Ireland. Adamstown in Dublin is designed very well even if it doesn't have the population demand to support it anymore.


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  • #7
    thetonynator
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    Doyler92 wrote: »
    I cant remember the names but supposedly the "new towns" in northern Ireland are well planned.

    well they dont have the same level of corruption and idiotic politicians up there . . .


  • #8
    orourkeda
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    No.


  • #9
    Augmerson
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    Shannon out in Clare/Limerick? Newest town built afaik.


  • #10
    Gran Hermano
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    I believe Westport is one of the few towns in Ireland laid out according to formal town planning 'rules'.


  • #11
    Brian CivilEng
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    The wide streets commissioners did a good job in Dublin City Centre. Can you imagine the city if O'Connell St was still single lane width from the GPO to the bridge? Left plenty of room for the trams which came and went, and now may be coming back.


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  • #12
    Overheal
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    Planned Cities are boring anyway. Grids everywhere.


  • #13
    artanevilla
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    As a friend of mine once said, deaed serious. "Ireland is the worst planned city in all of the UK."


  • #14
    CokaColumbo
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    thetonynator wrote: »
    well they dont have the same level of idiotic politicians up there . . .

    Oh really now?


  • #15
    Rabble Rabble
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    Complaining about small streets is ridiculous. Are we to knock everything down and start again?


  • #16
    Richard
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    Doyler92 wrote: »
    I cant remember the names but supposedly the "new towns" in northern Ireland are well planned.

    The only completely new town in NI is Craigavon. It was planned well, I think - it's just that the implementation was a bit rubbish.


  • #17
    My name is URL
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    Ardee


  • #18
    kelty
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    dundalk. So ive heard.


  • #19
    Mars Bar
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    I like towns that have a central point and branch out from there. Like in Tuam, you have the square and all of the streets branch of from there. Everything is in walking distance almost and you meet loads of people in the Square. It also means you can do a pub crawl in the literal sense. From a drivers point of view, I'd imagine it is a complete balls though.

    For the same reason, I like Donegal Town. It's neat.


  • #20
    HavingCrack
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    Rabble Rabble wrote: »
    Complaining about small streets is ridiculous. Are we to knock everything down and start again?

    Paris, London, Rome, Barcelona etc all did this at one point or another actually.


  • #21
    Sonnenblumen
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    AFAIK there are no planned towns with inhabitants in Ireland. Is Adamstown the nearest we got to planning a town from scratch, but I think the bubble burst before construction was completed?


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  • #22
    citizen_p
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    ireland (and most of europe) towns have been developing for a long time, even centuries and thus are not well planned, granted the rest of europe got a bit of help with war and destruction with the ability to rebuild.

    the only proper planned city ive been to was new york, which i found a bit boring tbh, i perfer the citys with back alleys that you can get lost in or discover new places.... thats more a visit thought than traveling through which somtimes can be a bitch.


  • #23
    HavingCrack
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    Sonnenblumen wrote: »
    AFAIK there are no planned towns with inhabitants in Ireland. Is Adamstown the nearest we got to planning a town from scratch, but I think the bubble burst before construction was completed?

    Well Shannon, Tallaght and Ballymun were also planned (using the loosest sense of the word) and turned out disasterously to be honest. Tallaght and Ballymun are only beginning to resemble proper communities 30 years later.

    Adamstown is only about 50% completed as far as I know. I can't see the rest of it ever being completed now.


  • #24
    gollem_1975
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    +1 for Westport


  • #25
    phasers
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    Clondalkin


    Haters gonna hate


  • #26
    KeithM89_old
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    kelty wrote: »
    dundalk. So ive heard.

    It is - most shops all close buy,very few one way streets and only the occasional bad junction


  • #27
    OutlawPete
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    Swords was .. guess it was easy though as you had a river valley, round tower and a castle to build it round, but it was destroyed in the late 90's onwards with the one nonsensical decision after another.

    The footpath on the main street is now bigger than the road, bypass took away my beloved corn fields (cliché, but true) and they built ugly council building on the town park :rolleyes:


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