Wife jailed for 'false retraction' of rape to appeal

Feeona wrote: »

What's this got to do with the original point of the thread? The facts as we have it is that she dropped the claims several times. Nobody knows why. So why the speculation? How did the thread go in this direction?

I think it's quite disturbing to see an argument going on about whether or not a woman was making up rape claims in a forum for women.

What other way could it ever have gone?

Feeona wrote: »

What's this got to do with the original point of the thread? The facts as we have it is that she dropped the claims several times. Nobody knows why. So why the speculation? How did the thread go in this direction?

I think it's quite disturbing to see an argument going on about whether or not a woman was making up rape claims in a forum for women.

To be honest, I think this is a perfectly logical question that has been raised in light of the original post. I don't see any problem with a debate about false accusations of rape taking place in a forum for women. In fact, I think it's an issue that affects women

Buceph wrote: »

It was a mod who was arguing the merits of the rape claim with someone. Silverfish said it was highly likely she dropped the claims because she was pressured to do so, Feeona said for all the evidence we have it's equally likely she was afraid of being found out in a lie. And I presume with a name like Feeona that she's as entitled as the next women to comment on this case (because you seem to be implying that it's not a womanly thing to doubt the claim.)

I've no worry with a man or woman doubting a claim, they've every right to do so. But I think rape is such an emotive issue for women, to come into a women's forum and say that the woman could have been lying is disturbing. There are no facts to say that she was, and to keep saying it is disingenuous really.

I certainly wouldn't go into the gentlemen's club and start haranguing the members there on an issue as emotive as rape.

Feeona wrote: »

I didn't say the bold part by the way!

I didn't imply it's not a womanly thing to doubt the claim either!

I've no worry with a man or woman doubting a claim, they've every right to do so. But I think rape is such an emotive issue for women, to come into a women's forum and say that the woman could have been lying is disturbing. There are no facts to say that she was, and to keep saying it is disingenuous really.

But there are facts, as found by the court. She gave two contradictory statements, a number of times. One of those statements has to have contained a lie, and as such she was convicted of perverting the course of justice. She is proven to be a liar. The idea that we should ignore the damage she has done because she claims she was raped is disingenuous and damaging. Not only has she damaged herself, and as a result will never have her alleged rapist face trial, she has caused damage for people who have and will be raped, and who now think this isn't worth it. And I've said a number of times she's not entirely to blame, but to absolve her of any fault is ridiculous. And to say we shouldn't discuss it because "women" is even worse.

SugarHigh wrote: »

You were working on the basis that her claims were true which we have no reason to believe.

And yet many persist in saying that she lied about the rape despite the fact that she was cleared of charges of making a false accusation.

All anyone in this case can say is that she is guilty of is exactly what she was convicted of.

metrovelvet wrote: »

She was not convicted for perjury. She was convicted for perverting the course of justice.

She was never charged with perjury, and nobody said she lied in court????? She was convicted of perverting the course of justice. She said she was raped, she then said she was not raped. Both simply cannot be true. Hence the lie.

Silverfish wrote: »

Can you quote where I said it was highly likely that rape happened?

You claim that it is highly likely that she was put under pressure to withdraw the allegations, through the pressure of family as, so you say, this happens quite often???? If that is case, well then it must follow that her original allegation of rape was true, or does it not, and if she were not put under this pressure, she would have proceeded with her original accusation.

As we are asking for clarification on matters, what facts do you base your premise that "it happens quite a lit that families of the accused put pressure on the accuser"?

Silverfish wrote: »

I think you might benefit from reading people's posts rather than responding aggressively to what you think you read.

I've done that, and you have also edited two posts, as I was replying to them I think you may benefit from not doing that, as your skewing the complete tone of my responses. As an aside, it's near on impossible to gauge the mood of somebody from their words, as text generally lacks context, I'm perfectly calm, thank you.