What is your opinion of Hyundais?.

Jimmy Garlic · 16-12-2010 01:54AM #1

The sister is thinking of getting an ix20, I don't know if I should try to talk her out of it or not?.. I always thought they were some of the most boring cars on the road, have they changed for the better?.. Drove an old model Accent a few years ago (not mine, garage car) for a couple of weeks and nearly lost the will to live. I think it was made out of recycled beer cans, it was that tinny.

Opinions on Hyundai please....

TunaSaladBB · 16-12-2010 01:55AM

Nothing compared to a horse.

That's Limerick Citaaay!

bmw535d · 16-12-2010 02:23AM

they have improved a lot since the nineties. apart from terrible dual mass fly wheels on the 4x4's they are a sound yok to be fair.

the new i30 sport is a rocket.

Jimmy Garlic · 16-12-2010 04:36PM

bmw535d wrote: »

they have improved a lot since the nineties. apart from terrible dual mass fly wheels on the 4x4's they are a sound yok to be fair.

Is it a poor mans Toyota or is it solid competition for a Toyota?. It looks good and all that, i must admit.

Ardennes1944 · 16-12-2010 04:39PM

as most people say here, they're boring reliable ****boxes

the new i series are nice though

Biglad · 16-12-2010 04:49PM

Had a '06 new model Santa Fe for nearly 3 years, 2.2d automatic, did about 160K k's in it, fantastic car, one of the best I've had, still going strong around Dublin. Anybody snobbing Hyundai at this stage is living in the past when they were style-less boxes on wheels. Wife's friend just bought an iX-35, great car as well. Lot of good news on the i-30 as well.

I'm actually looking forward to get rid of my SAAB asap and get my hands on a new Santa Fe again.

16-12-2010 04:51PM

Ole lad has a 1999 Hyundai Accent that he has from new, only 30 odd thou miles on it. In 11 years all it's needed is yearly oil and filter change, timing belt and water pump, reversing light switch and a battery. Never an issue. May be slightly tinny (not at all VAG like, think 90s toyota) but the thing is extremely relaible. Far quicker than a 1.4 Focus too, great little cars.

The new i ranges are superb, albeit it they do suffer from DMFs on the diesels.

MetzgerMeister · 16-12-2010 05:08PM

The i range is leagues above any hyundai before they came out.

I've rented 2 i30's in the last year and the reason I wanted one the 2nd time was because I was very, very impressed with it the first time I got it.

I don't know anything about the ix range but if the i range is anything to go by, your sister will not be making a mistake!

unkel · 16-12-2010 05:34PM

Neighbour had DMF on his diesel just outside warranty (3 years). DMF, timing belt and service set him back €2,500 :eek:

I thought these yokes from Korea were supposed to be cheap :eek: :eek: :eek:

I'd avoid like the plague tbh, unless you get one of the new ones with the 7 year warranty (and read the sneaky terms and conditions too!)

J_Wholesale · 16-12-2010 09:14PM

I drive a 3dr i20. Bought it new earlier this year under the scrappage deal. I think it's a great little car, and I've had no trouble with it beyond a software problem with the radio. The 3 door is better looking than the 5 door, and there's tons of room inside - loads of head room. It's in the same price bracket as a Ford Ka (which I also test drove), but is Fiesta size. Comes with a 3 year warranty (not 7 like a Kia, and not 5 like in the UK).

Most of the earlier Hyundai models look dull and boring, but take the Hyundai badge off the i20, and most people couldn't tell you what make it was. Love the sporty back windows.

Biglad · 16-12-2010 09:25PM

unkel wrote: »

Neighbour had DMF on his diesel just outside warranty (3 years). DMF, timing belt and service set him back €2,500 :eek:

I thought these yokes from Korea were supposed to be cheap :eek: :eek: :eek:

I'd avoid like the plague tbh, unless you get one of the new ones with the 7 year warranty (and read the sneaky terms and conditions too!)

Do you know how much of that bill was for parts and how much for labour?

Warranty is 5 years unlimeted mileage (unless it's a taxi, PSV or commercial), not 7.

So because your neighbour had a bad experience you avoid all Hyundai's like the plague? With that attitude you'll end up walking as you will not trust any car make.

Jimmy Garlic · 16-12-2010 10:14PM

J_Wholesale wrote: »

I drive a 3dr i20. Bought it new earlier this year under the scrappage deal. I think it's a great little car, and I've had no trouble with it beyond a software problem with the radio. The 3 door is better looking than the 5 door, and there's tons of room inside - loads of head room. It's in the same price bracket as a Ford Ka (which I also test drove), but is Fiesta size. Comes with a 3 year warranty (not 7 like a Kia, and not 5 like in the UK).

Most of the earlier Hyundai models look dull and boring, but take the Hyundai badge off the i20, and most people couldn't tell you what make it was. Love the sporty back windows.

Have they beefed up the body panels?, the metal in the old Hyundais was ridiculously thin and easy to dent. My sis is going for another test drive next tuesday, I would ask to go along with her to check it it out but i don't want her to think I am treating her like a baby... I also don't want her to waste her savings on a car that won't give her value for money.

Gael23 · 18-12-2010 06:09PM

unkel wrote: »

I'd avoid like the plague tbh, unless you get one of the new ones with the 7 year warranty (and read the sneaky terms and conditions too!)

+1 there. Add to that pure shocking residuals. Better stay away imo.

macroman · 18-12-2010 06:19PM

Mother in Law has a 08 i30, okay car, nothing gone astray on it yet, only ever needed consumables (bulbs, tyres etc.). Not my type of car, but cheap (on the pocket) and does the job. Sturdy engine but severely underpowered. Build quality is okay from what I can gather. The doors haven't fallen off yet so that's a plus

18-12-2010 06:40PM

macroman wrote: »

Mother in Law has a 08 i30,......... Sturdy engine but severely underpowered.

Petrol or diesel ?

unkel · 18-12-2010 07:02PM

Biglad wrote: »

Do you know how much of that bill was for parts and how much for labour?

Does it matter? €2.5k bill is shocking for a nearly new cheap car. I've owned high end expensive (when new) old cars (average about 10 years old) with big V8 petrol engines and automatic gearboxes for a decade and the biggest bill I've ever had was for about a grand for a complete suspension rebuild on a 12 year old BMW 7-series.

And no, if I have direct experience of someone blackmailed out of spending a huge amount just outside warranty (how convenient :rolleyes:), I would never buy one of those cars myself.

Hyundai has a lot to learn from Toyota in regards to customer service. The latter replace whole engines FOC outside warranty and the customer barely notices

Carpenter · 18-12-2010 07:25PM

unkel wrote: »

Does it matter? €2.5k bill is shocking for a nearly new cheap car. I've owned high end expensive (when new) old cars (average about 10 years old) with big V8 petrol engines and automatic gearboxes for a decade and the biggest bill I've ever had was for about a grand for a complete suspension rebuild on a 12 year old BMW 7-series.

And no, if I have direct experience of someone blackmailed out of spending a huge amount just outside warranty (how convenient :rolleyes:), I would never buy one of those cars myself.

Hyundai has a lot to learn from Toyota in regards to customer service. The latter replace whole engines FOC outside warranty and the customer barely notices

Hi
I have a ix35 2L d and have to say it is the best car I have ever had it runs on a song has more power than my last car which was a Audi A4 19tdi and is a class looking car IMO I even had a car follow me into a carpark to have a look in it my wife had a beamer 320 and likes the ix35 more there was a software upgrade and the customer care were top class even gave us another ix35 for the day as we were off down the country that day full tank and did not take a red cent of us so all I can say being an owner and have 1 is that they are great top class

.:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Stevie Dakota · 18-12-2010 07:55PM

The brand still does little for me, though cars like the iX35 could change all that. If they continue down that route delivering desirable, reliable cars for the masses then why would anyone want that Toyota?

djimi · 18-12-2010 07:57PM

I used to have an Accent (98 model). Not exactly exciting or flashy and not particularly powerful but it never gave me a minutes trouble and as a car for getting from A to B if thats all she wants I couldnt fault them to be honest.

racer1 · 18-12-2010 08:04PM

Had 2 hyundai coupes and never had an once of trouble. Mechanic who services my cars says hyundai,mazda and hondas are most reliable out there. He did also say they wont honour warranty even 1 day past expiry. but new hyundais now come with 5 yr waranty.

Cartel Mike · 18-12-2010 08:20PM

djimi wrote: »

I used to have an Accent (98 model). Not exactly exciting or flashy and not particularly powerful but it never gave me a minutes trouble and as a car for getting from A to B if thats all she wants I couldnt fault them to be honest.

I agree. I had one 1.3 l, tape deck and no power on hills. Mine just need brake pads in 4 1/2 years.
Ultra reliable and dare say much better looking than the later Accents.
Don't know much about them now though apart from the fact that most models look as bland as a focus.
Will last years guarenteed OP.

Biglad · 18-12-2010 10:01PM

unkel wrote: »

Does it matter? €2.5k bill is shocking for a nearly new cheap car. I've owned high end expensive (when new) old cars (average about 10 years old) with big V8 petrol engines and automatic gearboxes for a decade and the biggest bill I've ever had was for about a grand for a complete suspension rebuild on a 12 year old BMW 7-series.

And no, if I have direct experience of someone blackmailed out of spending a huge amount just outside warranty (how convenient :rolleyes:), I would never buy one of those cars myself.

Hyundai has a lot to learn from Toyota in regards to customer service. The latter replace whole engines FOC outside warranty and the customer barely notices

Still to me sounds like a simple bad experience. I have had fantastic service from my local Hyundai dealer in Letterkenny and not an ounce of bother with the Santa Fe. Can't wait to get my next one and my missus Zafira will at some stage be replaced with an iX-35.

With the amount of recalls Toyota had to deal with they better have decent customer service.

lukester · 19-12-2010 12:30AM

On the DMF issue in the Hyundai, unfortunately all modern diesels have the potential for DMF problems, along with turbo failure, DPF problems, etc, etc. This goes across the board from PSA engines to Merc/BMW/VAG-Audi to Japanese and Korean marques. Today's turbo-diesel engines in general are far less reliable than their petrol counterparts, and the failures tend to be expensive.

Hyundai as a marque appear to have come a long way, and get generally favourable reviews, especially the newer i-series cars. If you can get past the badge snobbery, you have a car that's no better or worse than much else in its segment at that price-point: VW, Ford, Toyota, etc. If your sister is considering going down that route in the first place, and really doesn't care about a badge, a Kia is basically a Hyundai with a 7 year warranty (with fairly specific terms and conditions mind).

hairyman · 19-12-2010 01:00AM

I had an 02 Trajet 2.0l CRDI.
Bought it with 36K on the clock.
My mate has the car with 78K now because I just had to get rid of the thing.
New Turbo, new intercooler, new gear linkage and cable, also had gearbox failure(something to do with the hubs?). snapped two wheel studs going over a speed bump at 20kph.
Lots of other silly little problems
I do know plenty of people who have had(still have) Hyundai's and they swear by the things.

I got a lemon, worst still, I bought it from the worst Hyundai dealer on the southside.

Biglad · 19-12-2010 01:02AM

lukester wrote: »

On the DMF issue in the Hyundai, unfortunately all modern diesels have the potential for DMF problems, along with turbo failure, DPF problems, etc, etc. This goes across the board from PSA engines to Merc/BMW/VAG-Audi to Japanese and Korean marques. Today's turbo-diesel engines in general are far less reliable than their petrol counterparts, and the failures tend to be expensive.

Hyundai as a marque appear to have come a long way, and get generally favourable reviews, especially the newer i-series cars. If you can get past the badge snobbery, you have a car that's no better or worse than much else in its segment at that price-point: VW, Ford, Toyota, etc. If your sister is considering going down that route in the first place, and really doesn't care about a badge, a Kia is basically a Hyundai with a 7 year warranty (with fairly specific terms and conditions mind).

Why does everybody keep stating that Hyundai provides a 7 year warrantee whilst it states on hyundai.ie that it's a 5 year warrantee. AFAIK it's KIA that offers the 7 year warrantee?

Agree with the rest of your post though, 99% what you read in this thread is badge snobbery from peeps that never owned one.

hairyman · 19-12-2010 01:04AM

Biglad wrote: »

Why does everybody keep stating that Hyundai provides a 7 year warrantee whilst it states on hyundai.ie that it's a 5 year warrantee. AFAIK it's KIA that offers the 7 year warrantee?

Agree with the rest of your post though, 99% what you read in this thread is badge snobbery from peeps that never owned one.

He never said that Hyundai provide a 7 year warranty, Kia do!!

jimmycrackcorm · 19-12-2010 01:11AM

What's the issue with the terms and conditions of the KIA or Hyundai warranty as someone also mentioned that to me today.

Are the warranties not that good?

Lex Luthor · 19-12-2010 02:10PM

so anyone know whats the difference between the i20 and the ix20?

EPM · 19-12-2010 02:15PM

Lex Luthor wrote: »

so anyone know whats the difference between the i20 and the ix20?

Ones a supermini like a Fiesta and the other is a supermini based MPV like the Meriva. The ix20 is the same car as the KIA Venga

J_Wholesale · 19-12-2010 02:25PM

Biglad wrote: »

Why does everybody keep stating that Hyundai provides a 7 year warrantee whilst it states on hyundai.ie that it's a 5 year warrantee. AFAIK it's KIA that offers the 7 year warrantee?

Agree with the rest of your post though, 99% what you read in this thread is badge snobbery from peeps that never owned one.

It's not a 5 year warranty, it's a 3 year warranty. Hyundai UK offer a 5 year warranty, Hyundai Ireland only offer 3 years. You can get something called 5 Year Triple Care, but you pay for it. The standard warranty is only for 36 months.

http://www.hyundai.ie/contentv3/index.cfm?fuseaction=page&pageID=19346&parentID=19316

bungler · 19-12-2010 02:25PM

ryanf1 wrote: »

+1 there. Add to that pure shocking residuals. Better stay away imo.

Just out of interest whats your reason for saying this? What Hyndai did you own?

Carpenter · 19-12-2010 02:38PM

unkel wrote: »

Does it matter? €2.5k bill is shocking for a nearly new cheap car. I've owned high end expensive (when new) old cars (average about 10 years old) with big V8 petrol engines and automatic gearboxes for a decade and the biggest bill I've ever had was for about a grand for a complete suspension rebuild on a 12 year old BMW 7-series.

And no, if I have direct experience of someone blackmailed out of spending a huge amount just outside warranty (how convenient :rolleyes:), I would never buy one of those cars myself.

Hyundai has a lot to learn from Toyota in regards to customer service. The latter replace whole engines FOC outside warranty and the customer barely notices

J_Wholesale wrote: »

It's not a 5 year warranty, it's a 3 year warranty. Hyundai UK offer a 5 year warranty, Hyundai Ireland only offer 3 years. You can get something called 5 Year Triple Care, but you pay for it. The standard warranty is only for 36 months.

http://www.hyundai.ie/contentv3/index.cfm?fuseaction=page&pageID=19346&parentID=19316

No it is 5 years with them on all new cars

J_Wholesale · 19-12-2010 02:43PM

Carpenter wrote: »

No it is 5 years with them on all new cars

Didn't you read the link I posted to Hyundai Ireland? Regardless, I bought a brand new i20 in March of this year, and it came with 3 years warranty, not 5. All the sales talk at the dealers was about the 3 year warranty, and all my documentation says 3 years. From my documents: "Sold with full manufacturers warranty 3 years / unlimited mileage."

5 years doesn't appear anywhere.

Carpenter · 19-12-2010 02:57PM

J_Wholesale wrote: »

Didn't you read the link I posted to Hyundai Ireland? Regardless, I bought a brand new i20 in March of this year, and it came with 3 years warranty, not 5. All the sales talk at the dealers was about the 3 year warranty, and all my documentation says 3 years. From my documents: "Sold with full manufacturers warranty 3 years / unlimited mileage."

5 years doesn't appear anywhere.

Hyundai is delighted to announce that "Triple Care" warranty is now availble on the following models

Facelift i10, Facelift i20 ,Facelift i30 ,Facelift i30cw,Facelift Santa Fe,ix20, and the ix35.

This 5 year Triple Care programme consists of

* 5 years Unlimited Mileage Warranty*
* 5 Years Roadside Assistance
* 5 years Vehicle Health Check

Please note that only cars sourced through Hyundai Cars Ireland Ltd. and purchased through a Hyundai Authorised Dealer qualify for the 5 year warranty.

I have it on paper that I got 5 years with my ix35 at no extra cost

J_Wholesale · 19-12-2010 03:20PM

I stand corrected. Must be a recent change.

Carpenter · 19-12-2010 07:50PM

J_Wholesale wrote: »

I stand corrected. Must be a recent change.

Not a bodder get on to them and see can you get it yourself

Biglad · 19-12-2010 09:00PM

hairyman wrote: »

He never said that Hyundai provide a 7 year warranty, Kia do!!

You are right, I am wrong, he didn't. There was a previous post or two where it was mentioned, I stand corrected

-Corkie- · 19-12-2010 09:38PM

Santa fe are a good machine so are the smaller hyundais. I see a lot of replys from badge snobs. Thats ok i was a badge snob in 2007 but not now. Whoever thinks toyotas and vag build the best cars havent a clue imo. Biglad is the man!

fonecrusher1 · 19-12-2010 09:38PM

Never owned one but from what ive heard over the last 10 years they seem to be reliable cars. I kind of like the look of more recent hyundai models. The older ones are pig ugly.

pissed · 19-12-2010 11:36PM

I was about to purchase an i30cw, then Hyundai went and lowered their scrappage allowance without even informing the garages. Wonder if they would have lowered them if the government had'nt extended the scrappage.

Anyway their loss as I pulled out of the deal.

What is your opinion of Hyundais?.

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