No canvassing signs on doors - Good or Bad idea?

Lady Chatterton · 24-01-2011 01:07PM #1

Hi Guys, Just wondering what your view of "No Politicial Canvessing/No Political leaflet" signs that are displayed on some doors? Good or bad idea???:D

trad · 24-01-2011 01:09PM

I would have thought "no Junk Mail" would cover it.

Lady Chatterton · 24-01-2011 01:27PM

trad wrote: »

I would have thought "no Junk Mail" would cover it.

My brother in law had a "No Junk Mail" sign up, but he continued to get political leaflets so he changed the sign.

Wile E. Coyote · 24-01-2011 01:34PM

MrsD007 wrote: »

Hi Guys, Just wondering what your view of "No Politicial Canvessing/No Political leaflet" signs that are displayed on some doors? Good or bad idea???:D

Well it all depends on whether you want to be annoyed by people telling lies and talking sh*te while your trying to eat your dinner or not.

Cat Melodeon · 24-01-2011 01:37PM

I am considering getting involved with leafleting - if I saw one of these signs I wouldn't post anything in.

Dempo1 · 24-01-2011 01:42PM

MrsD007 wrote: »

Hi Guys, Just wondering what your view of "No Political Canvessing/No Political leaflet" signs that are displayed on some doors? Good or bad idea???:D

Excellent Idea and already have my neighbor (Sign maker) designing a suitably worded signage, i may even consider hiring some excitable guard dogs during the canvassing period. I'm actually in Cowens constituency:mad:

Sierra Oscar · 24-01-2011 02:10PM

trad wrote: »

I would have thought "no Junk Mail" would cover it.

As someone who has done leaflet dropping / canvassing in the past, I can tell you that no junk mail signs are ignored. Especially for face to face canvassing! "No Unsolicited Mail" would be better, but to be honest a lot of parties just ignore any such notices altogether.

Lady Chatterton · 24-01-2011 02:31PM

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

" to be honest a lot of parties just ignore any such notices altogether.

Are politicians really brave or bold enough to knock on doors that have "No Canvessing" signs?? Wouldn't they just be asking for a lashing??

omerin · 24-01-2011 02:33PM

Good idea imo, will be putting one up.

maccored · 24-01-2011 03:02PM

so its a great idea to say you dont want to know what the various parties intend to do?

How does that help one wote?

Or, if one doesnt intend to vote, how does that help any of us?

Our man in Havana · 24-01-2011 03:08PM

No amount of signs will stop the "Litir um Thoghchan" from being shoved in your letterbox.
An Post will do their bidding instead.

Mongarra · 24-01-2011 03:11PM

One does not need a local candidate or hanger-on to know what the party policies are. We have enough to go on in the papers and, with RTE's absolute fixation with anything political, we will have plenty of air-time between now and election date, whenever that will be, to make up our minds.

ojoan · 24-01-2011 03:12PM

Just heard on Liveline that the political parties don't regard their leaflets as 'junk mail' so they ignore the signs

Biggins · 24-01-2011 03:12PM

This is mine:

Full size: http://img541.imageshack.us/f/ffgun2.jpg/

cosmic · 24-01-2011 03:14PM

maccored wrote: »

so its a great idea to say you dont want to know what the various parties intend to do?

How does that help one wote?

Or, if one doesnt intend to vote, how does that help any of us?

I will be putting one of these signs up.

I also know who I am voting for and why. 5 minutes of listening to someone's bullsh*t on my doorstop isn't going to change that.

maccored · 24-01-2011 03:19PM

cosmic wrote: »

I will be putting one of these signs up.

I also know who I am voting for and why. 5 minutes of listening to someone's bullsh*t on my doorstop isn't going to change that.

I dont trust the irish voter enough to be able to believe everyone who puts one of those signs up actually knows what and who they're voting for. Theres an awful lot of eejits who voted for FF over the past few years. Especially if they get their info from the news, radio and TV.

24-01-2011 03:34PM

One of these in the window should work:

Biggins · 24-01-2011 03:34PM

maccored wrote: »

I dont trust the irish voter enough to be able to believe everyone who puts one of those signs up actually knows what and who they're voting for. Theres an awful lot of eejits who voted for FF over the past few years. Especially if they get their info from the news, radio and TV.

With respect, I have one of those posters (see above) and I can assure you, I like to think I'm up to knowing a great deal about what is going on.

maccored · 24-01-2011 03:35PM

Papa Smut wrote: »

One of these in the window should work:

thats more like it. something a bit more definitive than 'no junk mail'.

maccored · 24-01-2011 03:36PM

Biggins wrote: »

With respect, I have one of those posters and I can assure you, I like to think I'm up to knowing a great deal about what is going on.

I never said you didn't. That doesnt negate my point though. Plenty of people thought they knew what they were doing when they voted FF.

Biggins · 24-01-2011 03:40PM

maccored wrote: »

I never said you didn't. That doesnt negate my point though. Plenty of people thought they knew what they were doing when they voted FF.

Last part is true - and some are still in denial about it.
They don't see their error and/or are still willing to maintain blindness by still voting for them.
Madness.

Officer Giggles · 01-02-2011 11:12PM

Biggins wrote: »

This is mine:

Full size: http://img541.imageshack.us/f/ffgun2.jpg/

looks good to me

Mits · 01-02-2011 11:29PM

They do ignore the "No Junk Mail" so I reckon "No Canvessing" give you the right to abuse anybody who knocks on your door.

As for the people who voted FF last time, I think the issue is a viable alternative and sadly that is still true.

Dirk Gently · 02-02-2011 07:49AM

made this one the other day

No cool lego men with guns though I'm afraid.

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Pherekydes · 02-02-2011 08:04AM

Mits wrote: »

They do ignore the "No Junk Mail" so I reckon "No Canvessing" give you the right to abuse anybody who knocks on your door.

They'll ignore that, too. They'll say it means nothing.

reallyrose · 02-02-2011 08:41AM

I'd quite like a "Please canvass me" sign, but I live in an apartment block with security doors so I don't think anyone will be coming in.

I guess to answer the OP question, they are neither a good or a bad idea. If you don't want someone to come talk to you, that's your business.

Does door to door canvassing really have a big sway on the vote of the individual? I can't imagine what anyone could say to me in 5 minutes that would change my vote! Unless it was "Here is 50 quid and some cake" :pac:

Lockstep · 02-02-2011 08:52AM

I've done leafletting (both for politicians and for private companies) in the past.
Generally, leaflets aren't seen as junk mail. The assumption is that the householder will want to keep up with the events and know the candidate called.
I had one woman come out asking why I'd left her house out (she claimed that junk mail was only applicable to flyers and coupons) whereas others have claimed that it applies to political literature too.

However, if they've a sign up saying no political literature, they'll be left alone.
Likewise, I've seen a few houses with notices stating no politicians or canvassers. These were always left alone as they've made their intentions clear but it completely depends on the candidate.

gandalf · 02-02-2011 08:57AM

Maybe you should phrase it like a job application. Canvassing will disqualify

HarryPotter41 · 02-02-2011 09:02AM

Wile E. Coyote wrote: »

Well it all depends on whether you want to be annoyed by people telling lies and talking sh*te while your trying to eat your dinner or not.

That sounds like a family dinner, not canvassing :-)

Kimono-Girl · 02-02-2011 09:54AM

i was out canvassing last night, and any house that had 'no political flyers' and/or 'no junk mail' signs were not given leaflets,

we did still knock on the doors to talk to people with those signs though.

some houses had 'No canvassers' signs we avoided those houses too.

Koyasan · 02-02-2011 10:07AM

Bad idea. People don't seem to realsie how much of a candidates policy can be decided on the door step. Decisions are made by those who show up. Well, they are also afected by those who convince a candidate that they will get a vote if they adopt a certain position.

grundie · 02-02-2011 10:21AM

I once spoke to a canvasser who said that they usually ignored any no junk-mail or no canvasser signs partly because they were told to do so and partly because they were trying to work hard so that they may progress through the party ranks.

I actually want canvassers to call to my door this time round. I have a list of questions and and I want each candidate to work hard to get my vote.

Liam Byrne · 02-02-2011 10:35AM

grundie wrote: »

I once spoke to a canvasser who said that they usually ignored any no junk-mail or no canvasser signs partly because they were told to do so and partly because they were trying to work hard so that they may progress through the party ranks.

Whatever about the abuse some candidates would get normally, if I actually had a sign up and someone ignored that, then they are 100% trespassing and would get a ****load of abuse - possibly even a literal ****load!

They would basically have proven that they have no interest in or respect for my wishes, which is hardly a good indicator of how they would represent me.

grundie · 02-02-2011 11:06AM

Liam Byrne wrote: »

Whatever about the abuse some candidates would get normally, if I actually had a sign up and someone ignored that, then they are 100% trespassing and would get a ****load of abuse - possibly even a literal ****load!

They would basically have proven that they have no interest in or respect for my wishes, which is hardly a good indicator of how they would represent me.

That's exactly what I was thinking. No better way to pi** of a potential supporter.

The guy who told me this story mentioned that the candidate said something along the lines of "Never take no for an answer, these people want to vote for me, they just don't know it yet'.

He decided to stop canvassing for his party after they invited him to a weekend workshop a year ago which he described as "pure marketing b*llsh*t". He went to talks with titles such as "How to make someone doubt their party loyalty" and "Analysing a home to help you get inside the mind of the owner'. He'd been a canvasser for 20 years and did a lot of organising work for the party. His decision to stop taking part freaked his party out. He had party bigwigs visit him to make sure he hadn't defected.

The worrying thing about this is that the big three parties are all doing it. It's no longer about chatting to people on the doorstep and answering questions about policy, it's all about mind games now.

spank_inferno · 02-02-2011 11:19AM

I'd consider a "canvas me please!" sign.

I live in the middle of a mid-size town and we never, ever get a call.

My garden path is up a slight slope... that could be putting them off!

tropics · 02-02-2011 12:27PM

clown bag wrote: »

made this one the other day
No cool lego men with guns though I'm afraid.

[/URL]

I love it. covers a mutitude!!:D

Copper23 · 02-02-2011 04:09PM

Kimono-Girl wrote: »

i was out canvassing last night, and any house that had 'no political flyers' and/or 'no junk mail' signs were not given leaflets,

we did still knock on the doors to talk to people with those signs though.

some houses had 'No canvassers' signs we avoided those houses too.

Downright ridiculous. If someone puts up a sign it basically means F'Off!
How smug to knock on someones door when they clearly asked for no junk mail or crap. How childish is that... well the sign says we can't do this and this but it does say thiiiiiis.... lets knock.
Good luck with the votes from those houses, can only assume it was for FF if they are so desperate to get votes where someone clearly doesn't want to talk to them.

Kimono-Girl · 02-02-2011 06:00PM

Liam Byrne wrote: »

Whatever about the abuse some candidates would get normally, if I actually had a sign up and someone ignored that, then they are 100% trespassing and would get a ****load of abuse - possibly even a literal ****load!

They would basically have proven that they have no interest in or respect for my wishes, which is hardly a good indicator of how they would represent me.

i completely agree, that is why we followed what the signs said, and to be fair the one or two houses with the 'no junk mail' and 'no political leaflets' were very eager to ask us questions, they just as one in particular told us are sick of getting the same leaflets constantly in their door.

grundie wrote: »

That's exactly what I was thinking. No better way to pi** of a potential supporter.

The guy who told me this story mentioned that the candidate said something along the lines of "Never take no for an answer, these people want to vote for me, they just don't know it yet'.

He decided to stop canvassing for his party after they invited him to a weekend workshop a year ago which he described as "pure marketing b*llsh*t". He went to talks with titles such as "How to make someone doubt their party loyalty" and "Analysing a home to help you get inside the mind of the owner'. He'd been a canvasser for 20 years and did a lot of organising work for the party. His decision to stop taking part freaked his party out. He had party bigwigs visit him to make sure he hadn't defected.

The worrying thing about this is that the big three parties are all doing it. It's no longer about chatting to people on the doorstep and answering questions about policy, it's all about mind games now.

that sounds really crazy,

i am canvassing this year and i can insure you the only information i received was were we were meeting and at what time,

we were given leaflets and a register and off we went knocking at the doors, i wouldn't dare try to 'get into the mind of the owner" or make them doubt their party loyalty...we simply ask for them for their vote for our candidate...
with us it is about chatting to people on the doorstep and answering questions about policy, and any other questions they have.

Copper23 · 02-02-2011 08:02PM

Kimono-Girl wrote: »

i completely agree, that is why we followed what the signs said

I honestly cannot believe the smuggness and underhandedness of such a statement...

"We followed the sign EXACTLY as if said"... I mean, you know EXACTLY what was meant by the sign and still decided to go ahead and knock on someone's door.
Does someone have to have a sign spelling out every little thing? "No giant pink elephants eating my tulips or the party will feel it is well within their right to arrange it... give me a break.

Another shining example of politicians feeling they are above the people, not of the people. As I said, I can only assume it's FF, would anyone eles be so desperate.

I won't even mention that the candidate supposedly gave you no training on what to say besides "when and where to meet" but you were someone well versed on what to say and how to represent their policies.

I really can't believe this... I'm not surprised but still.

limklad · 02-02-2011 10:03PM

MrsD007 wrote: »

Hi Guys, Just wondering what your view of "No Politicial Canvessing/No Political leaflet" signs that are displayed on some doors? Good or bad idea???:D

Make sure you have the large sign which states:

"Please give me all the Political leaflets you can spare. I need them for Heating. FF has reduced my pay package"

They will get the message.

Aishae · 02-02-2011 10:10PM

i either dont answer the door or do answer and say sorry me da's not here in my best child voice. the forest of paper they push through the letter box is fun for the dogs.....

SerialComplaint · 02-02-2011 10:55PM

Kimono-Girl wrote: »

i am canvassing this year and i can insure you the only information i received was were we were meeting and at what time,

we were given leaflets and a register and off we went knocking at the doors,

What do you use the register for?

Kimono-Girl · 02-02-2011 11:00PM

SerialComplaint wrote: »

What do you use the register for?

its for taking down notes on issues people at the doors have that can possibly be resolved.

psycho-hope · 02-02-2011 11:01PM

We have a no canvassing sign on the door and on the back of mums car as its the first thing you see when you walk towards our house, had great pleasure in asking the muppet who called to the door tonight, can they not read:rolleyes:

Yi Harr · 09-02-2011 04:03PM

I put up a no canvassing/no political leaflet signs yet Fianna Fail, Labour and Fine Gael candidates have still posted their rubbish.

Perhaps sending prospective candidates to general literacy classes rather than facebook workshops would have been a better idea.

Officer Giggles · 09-02-2011 04:46PM

Iv a little no canvasser sign up and have had no callers but I'm convinced someone waited until I left the house before putting a leaflet through, I have my rant waiting for the next idiot to do it

No canvassing signs on doors - Good or Bad idea?

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