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The hypocrisy of Gerry McGeough's conviction.

  • 18-02-2011 05:42PM
    #1
    dlofnep
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    http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0218/mcgeough.html

    So Gerry McGeough is convicted of a 30 year old crime, where he attacked a British soldier. But yet - The British soldiers responsible for 30 dead in Ballymurphy, Derry & Springhill - which includes a 13 year old girl, a 15 year old boy and a mother of 8 - all have got away without even a slap on the wrist.

    What gives Britain the right to convict one volunteer for an attack on a soldier, but allows it's own soldiers to get away with the murder of a 13 year old child and 29 other innocent civilians during the same timeframe? Britain is quick to bring a trial against McGeough, but yet - is unwilling to set the same standards for it's own soldiers.

    Hypocrisy at it's finest.


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  • #2
    KeithAFC
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    Nice to see a bit of justice. The guy had trauma for years over which you can understand.


  • #3
    deise go deo
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    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Nice to see a bit of justice. The guy had trauma for years over which you can understand.


    So British soldiers should also be brought to justice then Keith?


  • #4
    KeithAFC
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    deise go deo wrote: »
    So British soldiers should also be brought to justice then Keith?
    Yes. If they killed people on purpose or tried to like this provo did, then yeah.


  • #5
    deise go deo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,677 ✭✭✭deise go deo


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Yes. If they killed people on purpose or tried to like this provo did, then yeah.


    Great, I tought that you had said several times that Bloody Sunday and Ballymurphy Massacre should be left in the past without further investigation, Must have been someone else.:)


  • #6
    KeithAFC
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    deise go deo wrote: »
    Great, I tought that you had said several times that Bloody Sunday and Ballymurphy Massacre should be left in the past without further investigation, Must have been someone else.:)
    My personal opinion is one thing, what will happen is another. Perhaps something will be done but i doubt it.


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  • #7
    dlofnep
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    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Yes. If they killed people on purpose or tried to like this provo did, then yeah.

    Come off of it - You're contradicting yourself in every thread.
    KeithAFC wrote:
    I thought everyone had moved on?

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=70627372&highlight=ballymurphy#post70627372

    You know very well what the intent of this thread is - but you are cheerleading on the imprisonment of a man that attacked a British soldier 30 years ago, while when it comes to attacks by British soldiers which resulted in the deaths of men, women and children you make statements like "I thought everyone had moved on?"

    So - Considering that the British Government is once again prosecuting people for 30 year old events - You would surely support the same prosecutions for every single British soldier involved in the murder of civilians in Ballymurphy, Bogside and Springhill.


  • #8
    KeithAFC
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    dlofnep wrote: »
    Come off of it - You're contradicting yourself in every thread.



    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=70627372&highlight=ballymurphy#post70627372

    You know very well what the intent of this thread is - but you are cheerleading on the imprisonment of a man that attacked a British soldier 30 years ago, while when it comes to attacks by British soldiers which resulted in the deaths of men, women and children you make statements like "I thought everyone had moved on?"

    So - Considering that the British Government is once again prosecuting people for 30 year old events - You would surely support the same prosecutions for every single British soldier involved in the murder of civilians in Ballymurphy, Bogside and Springhill.
    Not at all. The ballymurphy thing, as we all know will NOT lead to prosecution of soldiers. Hince the moving on comment as its just a waste of money.

    Unlike this with the ex IRA member.


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    Nodin
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    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Not at all. The ballymurphy thing, as we all know will NOT lead to prosecution of soldiers. .

    Why will it not lead to Prosecutions ,keith oul flower...?


  • #10
    KeithAFC
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    Nodin wrote: »
    Why will it not lead to Prosecutions ,keith oul flower...?
    Same reason Bloody Sunday soldiers haven't been prosecuted as far as im aware. Im right in saying no soldier has went to prison for that right? I think we all know why. Not thats its right or anything.


  • #11
    dlofnep
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    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Not at all. The ballymurphy thing, as we all know will NOT lead to prosecution of soldiers. Hince the moving on comment as its just a waste of money.

    That is the point - Why won't it lead to prosecutions? Why are British soldiers not held to the same standards as anyone else? Why do they get off scot-free with the murder of a 13 year old girl, or a mother of 8?


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  • #12
    Bottle_of_Smoke
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    Political policing because he doesn't agree with SF. He's against violence now though and ran for election. He's also a popular figure in the community and the president of the local AOH gorup. So this is bound to turn the local community against the PSNI and encourage support for militant republicans. Very stupid move by the British government.

    He has a bad heart condition too. If he was to die before being released under the terms of the GFA(which he may not even qualify for) it could cause mayhem.


  • #13
    KeithAFC
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    Bottle_of_Smoke wrote: »
    Political policing because he doesn't agree with SF. He's against violence now though and ran for election. He's also a popular figure in the community and the president of the local AOH gorup. So this is bound to turn the local community against the PSNI and encourage support for militant republicans. Very stupid move by the British government.

    He has a bad heart condition too. If he was to die before being released under the terms of the GFA(which he may not even qualify for) it could cause mayhem.
    I doubt it will cause mayhem. If this was posted in AH, i wonder how many other Irish people would really care about this?


  • #14
    Bottle_of_Smoke
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    KeithAFC wrote: »
    I doubt it will cause mayhem. If this was posted in AH, i wonder how many other Irish people would really care about this?

    I meant with republicans in his community. I don't see how the reaction of AH posters is relevant.

    The case is a joke. Perhaps families could get the truth about their loved ones if republicans/loyalists and state forces were given automatic immunity. Time a line is drawn in the sand


  • #15
    KeithAFC
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    What would the people in his community do which you could describe as mayhem? Hardly going to kill people over it are they?


  • #16
    dlofnep
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    KeithAFC wrote: »
    What would the people in his community do which you could describe as mayhem? Hardly going to kill people over it are they?

    Stop deflecting from the topic at hand - which is the hypocrisy of the British Government with regards to attacks during the troubles, and why the are keen to convict Republicans, but not British soldiers who are responsible for the murder of a 13 year old girl.


  • #17
    KeithAFC
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    dlofnep wrote: »
    Stop deflecting from the topic at hand - which is the hypocrisy of the British Government with regards to attacks during the troubles, and why the are keen to convict Republicans, but not British soldiers who are responsible for the murder of a 13 year old girl.
    Lets convict the people responsible for the Claudy bombing then? A little girl lost her life while cleaning windows while the cowadly IRA planted a bomb and ran away as they normally did.

    Truth is no British Soldier is going to go to prison for actions 30 years ago. Same with most IRA, UVF, UDA members too. I don't know enough about this case to know why he has went to prison.


  • #18
    deise go deo
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    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Lets convict the people responsible for the Claudy bombing then? A little girl lost her life while cleaning windows while the cowadly IRA planted a bomb and ran away as they normally did.

    Truth is no British Soldier is going to go to prison for actions 30 years ago. Same with most IRA, UVF, UDA members too. I don't know enough about this case to know why he has went to prison.

    Keith, you said that you believe that British soldiers that killed people intentionally should face justice, why then, when shown that there are such British soldiers who have yet to be brought to justice, are you so dead set against any investigation into them and their crimes?

    The question again, should incidents like Bloody Sunday and Ballymurphy etc be investigated and should the criminals who masqueraded as British soldiers be brought to justice?

    This question has nothing at all to do with the crimes of the IRA. It is a question on the crimes of British soldiers.


  • #19
    KeithAFC
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    deise go deo wrote: »
    Keith, you said that you believe that British soldiers that killed people intentionally should face justice, why then, when shown that there are such British soldiers who have yet to be brought to justice, are you so dead set against any investigation into them and their crimes?

    The question again, should incidents like Bloody Sunday and Ballymurphy etc be investigated and should the criminals who masqueraded as British soldiers be brought to justice?

    This question has nothing at all to do with the crimes of the IRA. It is a question on the crimes of British soldiers.
    Iv already answered the question. I give a personal opinion, not what is going to happen.


  • #20
    deise go deo
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    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Iv already answered the question. I give a personal opinion, not what is going to happen.

    So in your opinion these British Soldiers Criminals should be Tried and convicted, and you would be happy if Incidents like Ballymurphy and Bloody Sunday were investigated with a view to rooting out these murderers.

    (please correct me if i am wrong)


    If this is the case, can you explain comments like
    Not at all. The ballymurphy thing, as we all know will NOT lead to prosecution of soldiers. Hince the moving on comment as its just a waste of money.


    I cannot imagine bringing murderers to justice being a 'waste of money' and we do not know that there will not be any convictions following a proper investigation, at the very least the family's will have vindication.


  • #21
    RandomName2
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    Look - this conviction is plain strange due to the time since the incident, and particularly due to the intervening 'forgive and forget' philosophy that has come to bear on convictions for activity during the Troubles.

    However, from the point of view of this thread - it is clear that the OP is not saying that both sides were in the wrong, so both should be convicted; but I suspect, rather, that the attempt on the soldier's life is seen as a morally justified action. This, itself (and ironically) would be a hypocritical stance, would it not?

    As such I do not have much faith in the standard of this thread improving :pac:


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  • #22
    KeithAFC
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    deise go deo wrote: »
    So in your opinion these British Soldiers Criminals should be Tried and convicted, and you would be happy if Incidents like Ballymurphy and Bloody Sunday were investigated with a view to rooting out these murderers.

    (please correct me if i am wrong)


    If this is the case, can you explain comments like




    I cannot imagine bringing murderers to justice being a 'waste of money' and we do not know that there will not be any convictions following a proper investigation, at the very least the family's will have vindication.
    The money comment is a very vital one. One that needs to be looked at. We don't want to be wasting millions for it. If there is evidence against soldiers who killed innocent people, then imo, they should be prosecuted but i just don't want millions wasted on it. Other wise, we are going down a dark path and the same will have to be done with the IRA.


  • #23
    dlofnep
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    RandomName2 wrote: »
    Look - this conviction is plain strange due to the time since the incident, and particularly due to the intervening 'forgive and forget' philosophy that has come to bear on convictions for activity during the Troubles.

    However, from the point of view of this thread - it is clear that the OP is not saying that both sides were in the wrong, so both should be convicted; but I suspect, rather, that the attempt on the soldier's life is seen as a morally justified action. This, itself (and ironically) would be a hypocritical stance, would it not?

    As such I do not have much faith in the standard of this thread improving :pac:

    My original intent was to highlight the hypocrisy of the British Government being quick to convict Republicans, but not holding their soldiers to the same standards. Nothing more, nothing less.

    If the standard of the thread diminishes, it will be purely because of your inability to read a post for what it is, or because of another poster consistently deflecting from the issue at hand.


  • #24
    Bottle_of_Smoke
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    KeithAFC wrote: »
    What would the people in his community do which you could describe as mayhem? Hardly going to kill people over it are they?

    I think it would lead to much more tension/riots and support/recruits for militant republicans.
    The money comment is a very vital one. One that needs to be looked at. We don't want to be wasting millions for it. If there is evidence against soldiers who killed innocent people, then imo, they should be prosecuted but i just don't want millions wasted on it. Other wise, we are going down a dark path and the same will have to be done with the IRA.

    I do agree with this to an extent. I figure if all involved were given full immunity we wouldn't have to spend millions because the participants could disclose their involvement without fear of imprisonment. If McGeough was guaranteed immunity he probably would have just admitted the attempted murder. As I said I include loyalists and state forces getting immunity too. I don't see the point wasting police hours on resistant ex-combatants when the best possible result is a 2 year sentence.

    Are you aware 1.5million was spent on prosecuting Gerry McGeough? could have paid for a lot of health workers likely to be cut in the next few years or given jobs to some of the thousands of unemployed graduates from Queens and University of Ulster

    I fear full immunity will never happen because the British government don't want what went on going public. A 300million inquiry and a big apology in Westminister for Bloody Sunday just about keeps the BA's international reputation going but if further unnecessary massacres and serious collusion was revealed(with both loyalists and republicans) they would face severe reputation damage.


  • #25
    Nodin
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    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Same reason Bloody Sunday soldiers haven't been prosecuted as far as im aware. Im right in saying no soldier has went to prison for that right? I think we all know why. Not thats its right or anything.

    So essentially you're admitting that the thrust of the OP - double standards in regards to prosecutions - is true.


  • #26
    man.about.town
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    dlofnep wrote: »
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0218/mcgeough.html

    So Gerry McGeough is convicted of a 30 year old crime, where he attacked a British soldier. But yet - The British soldiers responsible for 30 dead in Ballymurphy, Derry & Springhill - which includes a 13 year old girl, a 15 year old boy and a mother of 8 - all have got away without even a slap on the wrist.

    What gives Britain the right to convict one volunteer for an attack on a soldier, but allows it's own soldiers to get away with the murder of a 13 year old child and 29 other innocent civilians during the same timeframe? Britain is quick to bring a trial against McGeough, but yet - is unwilling to set the same standards for it's own soldiers.

    Hypocrisy at it's finest.

    its not hypocrisy, gerry mcgeough is terrorist and lets not forget for one minute the thousands of people killed by terrorism. sticking up for gerry mcgeough means you support terrorism. deserves every bit of his sentence


  • #27
    junder
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    dlofnep wrote: »
    My original intent was to highlight the hypocrisy of the British Government being quick to convict Republicans, but not holding their soldiers to the same standards. Nothing more, nothing less.

    If the standard of the thread diminishes, it will be purely because of your inability to read a post for what it is, or because of another poster consistently deflecting from the issue at hand.

    Since you all for investigating things let's also investigate our deputy first ministers action while he was in the pira, while we are at it lets also investigate the possible future louth TD Gerry Adams involvement in the murder of Jean mconville whose body was also discovered in Louth, but sure if we do that and they get convicted of anything that will spell the end of the peace process but still if we are going be investigating let's investigate everything


  • #28
    Bottle_of_Smoke
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    junder wrote: »
    Since you all for investigating things let's also investigate our deputy first ministers action while he was in the pira, while we are at it lets also investigate the possible future louth TD Gerry Adams involvement in the murder of Jean mconville whose body was also discovered in Louth, but sure if we do that and they get convicted of anything that will spell the end of the peace process but still if we are going be investigating let's investigate everything

    I think his post more suggested a line should have been drawn in the sand and solders were mentioned as an example of hypocrisy. Do you honestly not think there were ulterior motives to this case?

    Yeah I'd agree if soldiers are going to be investigated so should McGuinness/Adams etc but it would make a hell of a lot more sense to just move on


  • #29
    dlofnep
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    If I've learned anything from this thread is that people will read what they want out of it, and formulate a point that has absolutely nothing to do with the one being made.

    This thread is about hypocrisy within the British judicial system. Nothing more, nothing less. If you spent less time deflecting from the issue at hand, or reading into points that don't actual exist - then perhaps you might be able to grasp the very simple purpose of this topic.

    So let's examine it briefly, as I don't have the time, nor patience to routinely repeat myself to serve those who are willfully ignorant. The Bloody Sunday families waited 40 years, for a inquest to prove that their bereaved loved ones were innocent of any wrong-doing and that the British military was responsible. Not one soldier was brought to justice, even though their guilt has been proven. Meanwhile, dozens of other families which saw equal atrocities in Ballymurphy and Springhill which saw a mother of eight shot, and refused medical assistance - and a 13 year old girl slaughtered by British soldiers. Not one soldier was ever brought to justice in any of the cases.

    In the other side - you have an IRA volunteer who shot and injured a British soldier and subsequently went on the run. 30 years after the event, while in public running for elections - he is arrested and later convicted. They had sufficient evidence to prove that he was guilty of the attack. The point of the thread is not to argue whether or not his actions against a British soldier were warranted - It is to highlight how easy the British Government are to convict a Republican - while not one soldier has been convicted in any of the above cases I have highlighted.

    And that is why his recent conviction is a prime definition of hypocrisy. Double-standards on the part of the British judicial system.

    If it is not clear to you by now, it never will be - In which case - your willful ignorance is astounding.


  • #30
    martic
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    I find it quite ironic that the shooting happened in the same town as an incident that involved Grenadier Guard Jonathan Holden who was charged with manslaughter due to negligent discharge of his HMG resulting in the death of Aidan McAnespie who was on his way to a Gaelic match,the charges were dropped prior to conviction.Pte Lee Clegg also comes to mind.


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  • #31
    Duffy the Vampire Slayer
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    I had never heard of this McGeough fellow before but apparently he left Sinn Fein because of their socially liberal views and published a magazine which pushed the old lie that Irish republicanism is unavoidably linked with Catholicism. Sounds like a lovely man.

    But I agree with the OP, selective memory from the British like this will only lead to trouble.


  • #32
    martic
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    Know the area well and In my own opinion Aidan was murdered even though the local priest and local IRA men said he wasn't an active volunteer,his father was told a time prior to the "accident" by a soldier on the checkpoint that he had a bullet in his gun for his son Aidan,the same shoot to kill policy happened not too far from me when 3 young men (yes they were IRA volunteers) were ambushed by the SAS and the full force was used to put them out of action,but how many of them were held accountable or how many of them where interned innocently?


  • #33
    jimmycrackcorm
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    dlofnep wrote: »
    hypocrisy at it's finest.

    Not at all. The soldiers were representative of Britain so its actually the UK who is held responsible. Which is why their prime minister had to issue an apology in their parliament following the bloody Sunday enquiry.


  • #34
    Duffy the Vampire Slayer
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    jimmycrackcorm wrote: »
    Not at all. The soldiers were representative of Britain so its actually the UK who is held responsible. Which is why their prime minister had to issue an apology in their parliament following the bloody Sunday enquiry.

    Its not like he was shouting down the phone to them, telling them to shoot civilians. The soldiers themselves were responsible for their actions, however much the British government are to blame for covering them up.


  • #35
    jimmycrackcorm
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    The soldiers acted on their orders. Where they act individually they are held accountable as I recall from an incident once when I was in Cyprus where three soldiers raped and killed a woman whilst off duty.


  • #36
    KeithAFC
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    jimmycrackcorm wrote: »
    The soldiers acted on their orders. Where they act individually they are held accountable as I recall from an incident once when I was in Cyprus where three soldiers raped and killed a woman whilst off duty.
    They must of been complete nutters to just completely open up to kill over 10+ people.


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  • #37
    Fuhrer
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    KeithAFC wrote: »
    The money comment is a very vital one. One that needs to be looked at. We don't want to be wasting millions for it. If there is evidence against soldiers who killed innocent people, then imo, they should be prosecuted but i just don't want millions wasted on it. Other wise, we are going down a dark path and the same will have to be done with the IRA.


    KeithAFC For Justice!








    ...When its financially prudent


  • #38
    Wolfe Tone
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    Lets address the elephant in the room, he was jailed because he was anti GFA not because he was a former provo, simple as. What have SF said in response to his? This is blatantly politically motivated.


  • #39
    KeithAFC
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    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    Lets address the elephant in the room, he was jailed because he was anti GFA not because he was a former provo, simple as. What have SF said in response to his? This is blatantly politically motivated.
    Fair enough then. How can anyone be anti GFA i don't know. Its like being anti peace.


  • #40
    KeithAFC
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    sligopark wrote: »
    no the two do not equate - there are many reasons not to be pro GFA other than head bangers who want to continue the war. McGeough was not a real/continuity or criminal IRA sympathiser he had objections to the terms of the GFA as many good folk do.
    Sinn Fein went from being PIRA to now in politics. Why can't the rest of them?


  • #41
    dlofnep
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    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Fair enough then. How can anyone be anti GFA i don't know. Its like being anti peace.

    No it isn't. One can object to the terms of the GFA without being violent.


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  • #42
    Wolfe Tone
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    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Sinn Fein went from being PIRA to now in politics. Why can't the rest of them?
    Gerry was doing just that, he was running for office on an anti GFA platform, aka doing it peacefully and got locked up for his trouble


  • #43
    KeithAFC
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    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    Gerry was doing just that, he was running for office on an anti GFA platform, aka doing it peacefully and got locked up for his trouble
    The GFA, Gerry played a big part in that. Lets be honest, why do the likes of paramilitares need to run around now? Do republicans not actually understand Sinn Feins tactics in regards to the GFA? What is wrong with it?


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    Wolfe Tone
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    Im not getting into a debate on the pros and cons of the GFA, the issue here is this man was locked up for having a different political outlook and trying to engage in the political system


  • #45
    KeithAFC
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    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    Im not getting into a debate on the pros and cons of the GFA, the issue here is this man was locked up for having a different political outlook and trying to engage in the political system
    Blame Sinn Fein then. Sinn Fein love the British Government when it suits them.


  • #46
    sarumite
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    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    Im not getting into a debate on the pros and cons of the GFA, the issue here is this man was locked up for having a different political outlook and trying to engage in the political system

    Not according to the OP.....it says in the RTE report that he was locked up for attempted murder.


  • #47
    Bottle_of_Smoke
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    sarumite wrote: »
    Not according to the OP.....it says in the RTE report that he was locked up for attempted murder.

    I don't know if the point went over your head or you're making a separate statement.

    What the poster meant is that dragging up a historical crime for this individual was done not for justice but because he was running for election as a republican opposing Sinn Fein.

    If it were just for attempted murder and no political motives well then Martin McGuinness and other SF members would be in court too.

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  • #48
    PatsytheNazi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭PatsytheNazi


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Lets convict the people responsible for the Claudy bombing then? A little girl lost her life while cleaning windows while the cowadly IRA planted a bomb and ran away as they normally did.

    Truth is no British Soldier is going to go to prison for actions 30 years ago. Same with most IRA, UVF, UDA members too. I don't know enough about this case to know why he has went to prison.
    Their's no proof whatsoever the IRA were responcible for Claudy. But doubtless no more than the Dublin and Monaghan bombings and God knows how many others, if the Brit dirty tricks dept. were behind it the British govt will ignore those who were responcible and you'll make excuses for them. That's the British sense of fairplay for you.


  • #49
    Catch yourself on
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8 ✭Catch yourself on


    sarumite wrote: »
    Not according to the OP.....it says in the RTE report that he was locked up for attempted murder.

    Gerry McGeough will be sentenced on March 18th according to his support website.


  • #50
    Wolfe Tone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    He was sentenced today to 20 years.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-12985935


    My understanding is that he will be out in 2 years on licence, at which stage unless he toes the line they can do a Martin Corey on him.


  • #51
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Ridiculous.


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