Importing a MK2 RS2000 From South Africa

Aedan · 28-02-2011 10:37PM #1

Hi all,

Im looking into getting myself a mk2 rs2000 from South Africa and am wondering if any of you guys on the forum have any experience good or bad in doing something similar. The plan would be to fly over myself and see the car and then maybe load it into a container for shipping back to Dublin. If anyone has done such a thing and might be able to offer some advice it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

Aedan.

quattro777 · 01-03-2011 12:01AM

Aedan wrote: »

Hi all,

Im looking into getting myself a mk2 rs2000 from South Africa and am wondering if any of you guys on the forum have any experience good or bad in doing something similar. The plan would be to fly over myself and see the car and then maybe load it into a container for shipping back to Dublin. If anyone has done such a thing and might be able to offer some advice it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

Aedan.

I was considering this last year but the shipping costs alone were over 4k.

Aedan · 01-03-2011 12:23AM

There has to be a cheaper way than that cos to ship a car bought in auction in Japan is only around 700quid.

Max_Damage · 01-03-2011 12:27AM

Aedan wrote: »

There has to be a cheaper way than that cos to ship a car bought in auction in Japan is only around 700quid.

Cars from Japan either come in on RORO ships or dealers pack in the container with a number of cars.

Aedan · 01-03-2011 01:04AM

Would ya not be able to do both of them options from South Africa?

corktina · 01-03-2011 07:34AM

if you pack them carefully you can get several cars in a container and if you buy loads of spares you can bering them back too to offset the costs.

(I beleive what people do is build timber staging so that one car is partially above another.)

carchaeologist · 01-03-2011 07:55AM

corktina wrote: »

if you pack them carefully you can get several cars in a container and if you buy loads of spares you can bering them back too to offset the costs.

(I beleive what people do is build timber staging so that one car is partially above another.)

You would want to be sure of your carpentry skills for rough seas.

PaulK_CCI · 01-03-2011 08:07AM

there's different sizes containers, but prices for a large 40 or 45 foot container aren't that much more expensive than a 20 footer, so people tend to go for the bigger size and try to cram as much into one container to share the costs. As someone suggested earlier, rates for shipping from Japan or Australia usually tend to cost on average between 700 and 900 euro's, but that excluses all port, import and handling duties and insurance. If the car needs to be 'packed' by the shipper, it's extra, if the car needs to be taken out on the other side, it's extra, etc etc.
Also do not forget that car will be arriving from outside the EU union and will therefore be liable for VAT !!! @ 21% of the invoice value PLUS transport costs. Then there's import duties to the tune of 10%...

So make sure you have all the costs together before you step into the bargain.

Big Nasty · 01-03-2011 01:24PM

FYI - New laws in the UK, no duty on vehicles over 30 years and only 5% VAT. So if you can land it in UK it'll be a bit cheaper. Don't have a link for this but one of the lads in our club just landed a truck for £148!

unkel · 01-03-2011 06:58PM

MCMLXXV wrote: »

FYI - New laws in the UK, no duty on vehicles over 30 years and only 5% VAT. So if you can land it in UK it'll be a bit cheaper. Don't have a link for this but one of the lads in our club just landed a truck for £148!

So would that work? Get it registered in the UK first and then import it to Ireland so it's an EU import (no VAT, no import duties). Or does it matter where the car was first registered (outside of EU, so still have to pay the VAT / import duties)?

Anyone any link?

Big Nasty · 01-03-2011 08:29PM

unkel wrote: »

So would that work? Get it registered in the UK first and then import it to Ireland so it's an EU import (no VAT, no import duties). Or does it matter where the car was first registered (outside of EU, so still have to pay the VAT / import duties)?

Anyone any link?

He bought the truck in the states, shipped it to UK. Handling company sorted things that end and put it on the boat for him to Dublin - all he had to do was collect it at Dublin port. I gather you have to pay the 5% VAT at point of entry, i.e. UK. The truck landed here last Monday and is still on US plates.

Click the link below and go down to the fourth bullet point:
http://www.shipmycar.co.uk/tag/vat/

macplaxton · 02-03-2011 02:23AM

MCMLXXV wrote: »

Click the link below and go down to the fourth bullet point:
http://www.shipmycar.co.uk/tag/vat/

To do gain the cheapo UK customs tariff classification, you have to convince HMRC that the vehicle is something more than just an old car. Being over 30 years old helps, but is no guarantee. Being factory spec does too. As they mention in the notice, it is advisable, although not compulsory, to obtain a Binding Tariff Information ruling (BTI) prior to importation.

VAT usually goes on where it lands first, unless it's new (NMT) where different rules apply.

HMRC - Tariff Notice 05/05

businesslink.gov.uk - Classifying Vehicles

C@non · 13-03-2011 09:58PM

any one get a quote for this role on role off service?? i want to send from ireland to canada not other way around..

Mahatma coat · 14-03-2011 06:31AM

eh if you look around in South Africa you may find a MK11 escort with a Windsor 302V8
apparently it was a Factory option on SA Escorts

markcroninbsc · 14-03-2011 12:16PM

Mahatma coat wrote: »

eh if you look around in South Africa you may find a MK11 escort with a Windsor 302V8
apparently it was a Factory option on SA Escorts

hey mahatma coat did i used to goto school with you? haha.

nmacc · 14-03-2011 10:52PM

Would it be possible to load the Ford on to a Japanese RoRo ship calling in SA?

Last time I brought in a Jap import I organised the shipping myself with one of the regular shippers. They sent me a listing of dates and ports and my ship called to SA on the way to Ireland. Seems sensible that SA would buy used RHD cars.

If that trade is still under way, then it might be possible to find a shipper who could help out.

okistag · 15-03-2011 12:44PM

I lived in South Africa for a number of years.

You can get cheap shipping from SA to the UK, called shared or groupage shipping. Basically a container being shipped to UK or Ireland half empty and your car or Items are used to top it up. The shipping company organise the wooden frame around the car. It takes a little longer but way cheaper.

My next point is this.

In SA they value their classics not on their current market value in SA but based on UK prices from the likes of Classic car mag's. So most of the time they are not such bargains, but worth it for a rare enough car.

Also I often see adverts South African import rust free !!!!!!! A few pointers here. Just because most of the time its hot there doesnt mean the cars dont RUST they do !!
A car from inland like Johannesburg / Free State etc and lived there all its life will be rust free for sure. A car from coastal areas like Durban / Port elizabeth / Cape town etc from my own personal experance are rot boxes !! Salt in the air is the killer to metal and most who live on the coast nearly always land up on the beach weekends alot more than they would here or UK.
So watch out for this. !!!

Also in South Africa a car could of started life on the coast and then it was sold or owner moved in land, over there if you move the car is registered to the area it is in. So just because it has a transvaal reg doesnt mean it spent all its life there !! You can do a check on the reg over there and it will give all previous registrations of the car and years of those registrations.

Just be careful thats all, one other thing from my personal experience if your going over yourself be VERY CAREFUL, no body i know who has gone there hasnt lost something also when you shake hands with someone check your finger nails afterwards !!

Big Nasty · 15-03-2011 12:48PM

Good info but what's with the fingernails reference?

okistag · 15-03-2011 12:58PM

MCMLXXV wrote: »

Good info but what's with the fingernails reference?

:Dwas joking by checking they are still there after shaking hands

Importing a MK2 RS2000 From South Africa

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