Trouble brewing in Cork hurling again.

dcr22B wrote: »

They're trying to undermine the manager who made his decision a long time ago

:rolleyes: Some people are easily influenced by rags like the Sunday Independent.

I'll bet money with anyone that there won't be a strike before the seasons starts - anyone fancy to put their money where their mouth is? OP? Dcr? Dartbhoy?

I'll assume not.

Any other paper and I might believe it. Sindo is a glorified rag. I would agree though if the players are questioning their manager's decisions then there is no place for that.

Orizio wrote: »

I'll bet money with anyone that there won't be a strike before the seasons starts - anyone fancy to put their money where their mouth is? OP? Dcr? Dartbhoy?

I won't put my money where my mouth is as I didn't mention the word strike. There's no smoke without fire and Seán Óg's interview with Tubridy didn't exactly help issues.

I stand by my point though that it would be more in the Cork hurler's interests to concentrate on what happens on the pitch rather than goings-on off it.

Browney7 wrote: »

Any other paper and I might believe it. Sindo is a glorified rag. I would agree though if the players are questioning their manager's decisions then there is no place for that.

True, but unfortunately the decision to drop Sean Og (and only him) entirely from the squad makes pretty much no sense to anyone in the county. If its for hurling reasons then he would surely cut a half a dozen other players as well as a lot of the senior hurlers aren't up to much; if it was because he is a 'troublemaker' then again one would think he was one amongst a few to be cut. Basically getting rid of him from the squad entirely would only real make sense in a wider clear-out. On top of that his first proper year in charge was pretty awful, even taking into account the lack of quality in Cork Hurling right now. Hence the confusion in Cork GAA.

dcr22B wrote: »

Possibly not but why is it ending up in the papers then? You don't read about stuff like this from other counties.

Well the interesting question is who or how it was 'leaked'. Apparently the meeting happened weeks ago and the weight training and so on has been continuing on unabashed since. The fact that it is only getting out now suggests that there really isn't much of a problem, and I'm struggling to see how anyone is being undermined since it was done privately.

Once again, it is not strange for a player or even a group of players to seek clarification regarding selection and tactics, and evidently management themselves didn't have a problem with the meeting or else they would have refused to take part. The reality is that anything even remotely controversial involving the Cork hurlers is newsworthy and again the Independent is a sensetionalist rag.

eroo wrote: »

@Orizio

Your posts are just abusive responses, and I too have reported you. Thank God your not a mod here anymore.


As for the meeting, I'm sure Walsh had his reasons for dropping O hAilpin, such as poor form. He being the manager, does not have to answer to anybody but the County Board.

I was never a mod on the GAA forum.

Are you going to apologise for your unproven and slanderous comments towards Donal Og or not? Or simply attempt to cower behind more of your pedantry and attempt to personally insult me for the third time?

So I'll take as a no then?

I would ask you as a GAA fan not to slander or speculate about players like that in future, particularly one that has done so much for GAA over the past decade. The point about the internet is that players can't directly respond to these kind of speculations, so its entirely unfair on them.

Thank you.

Royal Seahawk wrote: »

I was implying that if I was a betting man (which I am) I'd say Donal Og would be a major player in getting this meeting to have Denis Walsh explain his decision to drop Sean Og held.
This is not slanderous, in fact I'd say most Gaa followers who haven't been living under a rock for the past seven years would agree with me.

Your fairly well up to speed with matters cork.Whereabouts in cork city do you live.faranree, blackrock, douglas?

As an outsider living in cork the last 3 weeks of so called speculation and supposed striking is the biggest load of c""" I have heard in a long long time.what proof has anyone got of donal og the leader of the cork hurling fascist party of trying to oust denis walsh.

He was asked about his opinion of a team mate that he played with for almost 20 years and how he would cope with sean og gone.Like any player would be asked across the country be it gaa, tennis, soccer, rugby etc.Just because donal og said sean og was a legend it seems like strike action is on the cards now.

I know from limerick the danger of replacing experienced players.we never replaced gary kirby and dave clarke when they left and we never really recovered.its a similar scenario to cork now.

For what its worth I dont buy into this notion that Cork were the most professional team ever in the recorded history of mankind but some of the critics of them from people who read third rate sources have a lot to learn.

The CCB is a relic of the stone age.Similar to fianna fail and to a lesser extent the catholic church.People of the arent we grand with our 30 all irelands we'll win 5 of the next 10 not a bother.People who have presided over a period that has seen cork win 3 all irelands since 1990.only one (1999) that they can take credit for.A big 3 in hurling that are in decline and the generals club 2 minutes away from relegation only for a seamus darby moment.A culture of clubs picking players because of their name.

Consider the most successful club in Cork.Nemo Rangers.A club who are a success in spite of the CCB.A club who are disliked by certain figures but always produce winning teams.Rather than being encouraged by cork they are almost outcasts.

I dont know the full ins and outs of whats going on in hurling but put it this way Sean og was never disgraced in a cork jersey whereas some of the forwards have been an embarrassment for years and are still around.

Ultimately Cork hurlings golden era ended after kilkenny beat them in 2006 but they have had a manager that didnt succeed after 2 years in charge and should have left and they now have a manager who deserves another year at least no matter how limited he is.Some players might like him others may not.Not every manager is loved in a club or county team but the players have to get on with it.

Sean og is not a player I am too bothered about one way or another but put it this way at 33 he is still one of the fittest players in the country and should not have been discarded.Sean og may have his faults but having seen many players who have wasted talent he is worthy of respect for his dedication alone.

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

Rubbish! You have no idea of the work that Donal Og does to promote hurling in weaker counties and many other projects - if you still have the book, have a look at chapter 29. I'd saw you skimmed the book more than anything else because if you had read it, you would have seen the farce of a county board that the Cork teams had to put up with - cold showers after training, fighting to get a team doctor at every game, to get rid of a manager who couldn't lead - look for a quote by John Gardiner on that.



He was definitely worth a place on the bench, for his leadership and inspiration alone. He is as fit as he ever was. It came out that Sean Og had "retired" which was not the case, as he had been dropped, which Sean Og came out and said. What does that say for the management?



Where? The last strike he was not the ringleader, he didn't even want to do it. but because of the policy of the team votes, he rowed in behind it. But if you had read the book without those rose tinted glasses, you would have seen that, in a a couple of places. 2 things (which isn't plenty!) and you are lead to "assume" that Donal Og is the main player - I haven't read that much rubbish in quite a while! Oh yeah, your entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to mine.

The meeting mentioned in that rag happened weeks ago, and players are entitled to clear the air with management about issues that concern them, which happens in every dressing room. Clearing the air brought with it no hint of trouble - how you can take Donal Ogs statements and say that they are troublemaking is beyond belief! He says that he is very sad about it, he doesn't say that Walsh was wrong/right to drop Sean Og. They are trying to make a mountain out of a molehill once again

If your not in the county, you know nothing about it

You've said it now. A lot of slack jawed yokels from up the midlands, etc. making vacant-minded comments on Cork Hurling on this and other threads

There's absolutely no need to bring this thread back up again. There's discussion underway in the Seán Óg thread and that should be enough.