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Irish rugby star to become hero in flotilla.

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  • #62
    arybvtcw0eolkf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Once he's not to become a martyr too, because that 72 virgins stuff is for the fairies :pac:


  • #63
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Raymond Gorgeous Self-image wrote: »
    Once he's not to become a martyr too, because that 72 virgins stuff is for the fairies :pac:

    Jaysus knows what ye'd get in Irish catholic heaven.....Twink for eternity....


  • #64
    PatsytheNazi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭PatsytheNazi


    benwavner wrote: »
    How the hell can you describe him as a hero?

    Thread title is :confused:..................Is he going to take on the IDF with explosive rugby balls and assist the PLO?
    Well doubt if you'd get one of the macho boys of the IDF with their alleged super Krav Maga combat skills :rolleyes: would go one to one in fisticuffs with a former rugby international.


  • #65
    arybvtcw0eolkf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Nodin wrote: »
    Jaysus knows what ye'd get in Irish catholic heaven.....Twink for eternity....

    Imagine this for eternity!!.



  • #66
    Praetorian Saighdiuir
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,968 ✭✭✭✭Praetorian Saighdiuir


    PatsytheNazi wrote: »
    Well doubt if you'd get one of the macho boys of the IDF with their alleged super Krav Maga combat skills :rolleyes: would go one to one in fisticuffs with a former rugby international.


    I love Boards, it allows idiotic posts like yours above.

    Do you really think an Israeli soldier would be afraid of a rugby player? I presume you are not trained in KM otherwise you wouldnt post it.

    Far enough, he's a fit lad and not averse to a physical beating. But I doubt he is trained to kill. Israeli's dont take any ****...if the KM fails the bullets wont.

    Now go away and troll somewhere where you have a bit of experience.


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  • #67
    arybvtcw0eolkf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Sorry Mr.Weaver but Krav is a load of crap.

    From the Self Defence & Martial Arts forum.


  • #68
    TheHighRoad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 645 ✭✭✭TheHighRoad


    benwavner wrote: »
    I love Boards, it allows idiotic posts like yours above.

    Do you really think an Israeli soldier would be afraid of a rugby player? I presume you are not trained in KM otherwise you wouldnt post it.

    Far enough, he's a fit lad and not averse to a physical beating. But I doubt he is trained to kill. Israeli's dont take any ****...if the KM fails the bullets wont.

    Now go away and troll somewhere where you have a bit of experience.


    Have you seen most Israeli soldiers? The majority look like nerdy, awkward teenagers who are scared ****less. Its no wonder they shoot everything in sight. Obviously their special forces and most of their experienced full time soldiers aren't like that but the average soldier definitely is. Oh and as for Krava Maga, well all the rugby player would have to do is tackle him to the ground and his Krava Maga is useless


  • #69
    Son Of A Vidic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    mprgst78 wrote: »
    I hope he doesn't expect assistance from us when he gets himself into trouble over there. That flotilla crowd is a bunch of lefty ideologues mixed in with muslim extremists.


    Well that's certainly not a stereotypical generalisation if ever I've seen one.


  • #70
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    benwavner wrote: »
    I love Boards, it allows idiotic posts like yours above.

    Do you really think an Israeli soldier would be afraid of a rugby player? I presume you are not trained in KM otherwise you wouldnt post it.

    Far enough, he's a fit lad and not averse to a physical beating. But I doubt he is trained to kill. Israeli's dont take any ****...if the KM fails the bullets wont.

    Now go away and troll somewhere where you have a bit of experience.

    .....but will his Krav yokey get him a nice job in the bank and into the Golf club? I think not.


  • #71
    Katkatim
    Closed Accounts Posts: 30 ✭Katkatim


    TheHighRoad wrote: »
    ... Its no wonder they shoot everything in sight.

    Where and when have you seen an Israeli soldiers "shoot everything in sight"?


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  • #72
    Son Of A Vidic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    What's all this talk about krag Maga? Surely everyone realises the IDF generally opens up when you get within stone throwing range.


  • #73
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Corvus Maximus wrote: »
    What's all this talk about krag Maga? Surely everyone realises the IDF generally opens up when you get within stone throwing range.

    ....if not before, if not before.


  • #74
    LondonIrish90
    Closed Accounts Posts: 882 ✭✭✭LondonIrish90


    TheHighRoad wrote: »
    Have you seen most Israeli soldiers? The majority look like nerdy, awkward teenagers who are scared ****less. Its no wonder they shoot everything in sight. Obviously their special forces and most of their experienced full time soldiers aren't like that but the average soldier definitely is. Oh and as for Krava Maga, well all the rugby player would have to do is tackle him to the ground and his Krava Maga is useless

    I would actually ask that question back to you, have you seen most Israeli soldiers? I somehow doubt you have.

    Anyway, their record as fighting troops over the last few decades speaks for itself, Yom Kippur War, Six day war etc. So I probably wouldn't write off one of the most resolute and battle hardened defence forces in the world who have fought many times for their survival as a nation as "awkward teenagers".


  • #75
    Glenster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,626 ✭✭✭Glenster


    orourkeda wrote: »
    Rugby is stupid

    I suppose.its not a patch on starcraft is it Screech?


  • #76
    FlutterinBantam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Here we go again, yet another 'Israeli thread ' in AH.

    Give it a frikken rest for Chrissakes.

    As to the actual topic,what do I think?

    Absolute idiot.


  • #77
    Praetorian Saighdiuir
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,968 ✭✭✭✭Praetorian Saighdiuir


    Raymond Gorgeous Self-image wrote: »
    Sorry Mr.Weaver but Krav is a load of crap.

    From the Self Defence & Martial Arts forum.

    Lets not make this thread about which martial art is more effective. I am not the one who introduced KM to this discussion.

    My point is simple...Rugby player Vs Israeli soldier = Hero rugby player loses.


  • #78
    arybvtcw0eolkf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    benwavner wrote: »
    Lets not make this thread about which martial art is more effective. I am not the one who introduced KM to this discussion.

    My point is simple...Rugby player Vs Israeli soldier = Hero rugby player loses.

    Rugby, meh - I'll raise you a game of pool :pac:



    Now a pool player, with a sock against an Israeli soldier - wad'ya say pal?.


  • #79
    Mr. Presentable
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,495 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    So when he needs repatriation who will have to pay the costs? Me? Really?

    He's not a hero, he's a very silly boy. I hope no ill comes to him, but likewise hope the taxpayer is not called upon to bail him out if his well intentioned but deluded crusade goes tits up.

    OP, you have been asked a couple of times to support your claim the blockade is illegal. Can you do that, or not? If not I strongly suggest you amend your first post to reflect the fact that your hero has no legal grounds for his protest.


  • #80
    Mr. Presentable
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,495 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    Raymond Gorgeous Self-image wrote: »
    Rugby, meh - I'll raise you a game of pool :pac:


    The sword is the pool ball in a sock, Indy the Israeli soldier.....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DzcOCyHDqc


  • #81
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Raymond Gorgeous Self-image wrote: »
    Rugby, meh - I'll raise you a game of pool :pac:



    Now a pool player, with a sock against an Israeli soldier - wad'ya say pal?.

    Saw that movie on video, then saw it a few years later on CH4. They shortened the rape scene a bit, but the bit that was censored was actually the guard ignoring the lad getting suicidal during the night, which, when you think about it, was a very dubious decision indeed.


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  • #82
    Seachmall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    Israel is not a theocratic state? A state founded on what religion you are. :rolleyes:

    Israel actually has a strong and vocal secular community, in fact almost of half of Israelis consider themselves secularists; something that would not be tolerated in the theocratic state you suggest it is.

    I'm not arguing the topic at hand I just think that was a misinformed comment.


  • #83
    arybvtcw0eolkf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Nodin wrote: »
    Saw that movie on video, then saw it a few years later on CH4. They shortened the rape scene a bit, but the bit that was censored was actually the guard ignoring the lad getting suicidal during the night, which, when you think about it, was a very dubious decision indeed.

    Jesus you must be as old as me!.

    Brilliant movie.


  • #84
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Raymond Gorgeous Self-image wrote: »
    Jesus you must be as old as me!.

    Brilliant movie.

    Aye. 41, jaysus help me.


  • #85
    wes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    Seachmall wrote: »
    Israel actually has a strong and vocal secular community, in fact almost of half of Israelis consider themselves secularists; something that would not be tolerated in the theocratic state you suggest it is.

    I'm not arguing the topic at hand I just think that was a misinformed comment.

    Israel doesn't have secular marriage btw, so there not a secular state either. They also grant citizenship based on race/religion, which again shows that it isn't secular either.


  • #86
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    FlutterinBantam wrote: »
    Here we go again, yet another 'Israeli thread ' in AH.

    Anything that pisses you off, automatically is worthy of 'excellent thread' status.
    FlutterinBantam wrote: »
    Give it a frikken rest for Chrissakes.

    Haha, no.... pal? ;):) :rolleyes: :P
    FlutterinBantam wrote: »
    As to the actual topic,what do I think?

    You don't think. We ascertained that a few years ago. You're a random word generator.


  • #87
    Seachmall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    wes wrote: »
    Israel doesn't have secular marriage btw, so there not a secular state either. They also grant citizenship based on race/religion, which again shows that it isn't secular either.

    [Removed this post cause it was unnecessary, sorry for any confusion].


  • #88
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Mr. Presentable wrote: »
    OP, you have been asked a couple of times to support your claim the blockade is illegal. Can you do that, or not? If not I strongly suggest you amend your first post to reflect the fact that your hero has no legal grounds for his protest.

    It is illegal under the 4th Geneva Convention, which prohibits collective punishment. Since Israel has blocked legitimate sources of food, medical supplies and building materials - it affects a collective population, and therefore breaches the 4th Geneva Convention. It's quite simple. The blockade is illegal.


  • #89
    wes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    Seachmall wrote: »
    I'm well aware it has the legal structure of a theocracy, but it isn't run as one nor does it have the population of one.

    I never claimed it was a theocracy, just that the state is not secular. I should have been clearer.


  • #90
    mprgst78
    Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭mprgst78


    dlofnep wrote: »
    It is illegal under the 4th Geneva Convention, which prohibits collective punishment. Since Israel has blocked legitimate sources of food, medical supplies and building materials - it affects a collective population, and therefore breaches the 4th Geneva Convention. It's quite simple. The blockade is illegal.

    According to the Israelis, they ship food into Gaza 6 days a week.

    http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/HumanitarianAid/Palestinians/Israeli_humanitarian_lifeline_Gaza_25-May-2010.htm

    Surely the Israelis are not outright lying?


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  • #91
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    mprgst78 wrote: »
    According to the Israelis, they ship food into Gaza 6 days a week.

    http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/HumanitarianAid/Palestinians/Israeli_humanitarian_lifeline_Gaza_25-May-2010.htm

    Surely the Israelis are not outright lying?

    They have blocked many sources of food into Gaza. They allow basic foods into Gaza, but they block anything considered a 'luxury item'. That can be something as simple as a can of soda, to a bar of chocolate. They had banned macaroni.. Who bans Macaroni? They have also blocked musical instruments, house building materials (despite the fact that Israel has destroyed the Gazan infrastructure), and many other items.

    Now if they just banned weapons, knives etc.. People might be a little more understanding - But to block what they deem to be 'luxury items', definitely places the blockade under the title of 'collective punishment', and therefore it breaches the 4th Geneva Convention.


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