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Roscommon Hospital and the lack of people who care

  • 06-07-2011 02:52PM
    #1
    veryangryman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,720 ✭✭✭


    This one has made the news so i was surprised that it wasnt mentioned on boards in any forum.

    If we are to judge this purely by boardsies interest, it seems that the political will just is not there to keep the services open.

    Me, i think Ballinasloe/Galway is close enough as an alternative, assuming that its own A&E is resourced properly (which i doubt but there you go).

    Mods feel free to move this. In the interim, id like to hear general views on it from those outside Roscommon


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  • #2
    Kevin Duffy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,439 ✭✭✭Kevin Duffy


    Anychance you could expand on the story you're seeking views on? Not everyone is as aware of it as you.


  • #3
    mgmt
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    Close the A&E's in these small hospitals. It's best to amalgamate our resources into hospitals that serve a greater population and area base.


  • #4
    Corsendonk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,870 ✭✭✭Corsendonk


    mgmt wrote: »
    Close the A&E's in these small hospitals. It's best to amalgamate our resources into hospitals that serve a greater population and area base.

    Agree but every election local TDs promise to keep the local hospital open and we seem to want a hospital in everytown so we always have these campaigns.


  • #5
    veryangryman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,720 ✭✭✭veryangryman


    Kevin Duffy wrote: »
    Anychance you could expand on the story you're seeking views on? Not everyone is as aware of it as you.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0706/roscommon.html

    Apologies - its the main headline so assumed most were aware


  • #6
    biko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,219 ✭✭✭✭biko


    veryangryman wrote: »
    This one has made the news so i was surprised that it wasnt mentioned on boards in any forum.
    It has, in Roscommon forum.
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055999714

    I think you'll find that people from other areas won't give a toss because it's not near them.
    And there's not enough Rossers to have a strong voice.


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  • #7
    starviewadams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,116 ✭✭✭starviewadams


    I'm aware of it but I think it makes financial sense to close a+e's in smaller hospital's and use the resouces to staff a 24 hour a+e in a regional hospital.

    Terrible that some people actually believed politician's election promises.


  • #8
    mgmt
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    starviewadams wrote: »
    I'm aware of it but I think it makes financial sense to close a+e's in smaller hospital's and use the resouces to staff a 24 hour a+e in a regional hospital.

    Terrible that some people actually believed politician's election promises.

    It dosn't make just financial sense, people would get better care in larger A&Es with staff who have more experience and quicker response times in getting results back (blood tests etc.).


  • #9
    veryangryman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,720 ✭✭✭veryangryman


    It does seem like terrible bullsh1t to pay continuously higher taxes for less and less services.

    Yes i know how economies work but it still sucks. Welcome to the NFL kid...


  • #10
    Amazotheamazing
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    We don't have the money to keep it open, hell, even the big ones like Limerick A&E might be closed.


  • #11
    123balltv
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭123balltv


    no taxes going into hospitals, taxes straight to IMF/EU :mad: feel sick
    I have a hospital beside me I rarely ever go no money €120


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  • #12
    Opelfruit
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    mgmt wrote: »
    Close the A&E's in these small hospitals. It's best to amalgamate our resources into hospitals that serve a greater population and area base.
    Roscommon Hospital covers a huge geographical area base. Try getting from Glenamaddy to Ballinasloe in an emergency. Ballinasloe is only connected to north Galway by regional roads, roads among the worst in the country. People from north Roscommon would have to pass Roscommon hospital to get to Ballinasloe!

    This does not effect me directly, however, you would expect that the one service every hospital would provide is A&E. People will die!


  • #13
    Fozzie Bear
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    veryangryman wrote: »
    Me, i think Ballinasloe/Galway is close enough as an alternative, assuming that its own A&E is resourced properly (which i doubt but there you go).

    Nope I disagree on that. Its approx 1 hour and 20 minutes to drive from central Co. Roscommon (where I'm from originally) to Galway city, (an hour to B'sloe, Roscommon town is approx a 30 minute drive).

    Then depending on the time of day you hit Galway at you could easily spend another hour getting to the far side of the city through traffic (as Galway has no bloody bypass, don't get me started on that!) to get to get the A&E. That's the same A&E where there are regularly 10-12 hour waiting times by the way (personal experience of that) and its already beyond bursting point. Where are the extra sick people going to go Enda & Co? On trolleys in the car park??

    You are looking at the same approx travel times to Castlebar or Sligo hospitals. If you look at a map of Connaught there is a huge big blank space in the middle with no hospital within an hours drive. All of them are along the coastal areas with nothing even near being centrally located. Thats a long drive with someone sitting in the car beside you who is screaming in pain, bleeding heavily or in serious medical difficulties. You can forget about a bloody ambulance too as the waiting times for them can be up to 40 minutes just to collect you and then you have to head off for Galway!

    Its a joke and the simple fact is people will die or end up disabled because of this.


  • #14
    [Deleted User]
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    People from north Roscommon would go to Sligo?


  • #15
    Amazotheamazing
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    Opelfruit wrote: »
    Roscommon Hospital covers a huge geographical area base.

    But not necessarily a huge population base. If it's a choice between keeping the one in Galway city open or the one in Roscommon, for example, you have to go with the one that serves the most people, not the biggest area.


  • #16
    Duggy747
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    RTE NEWS wrote:
    The Taoiseach said he found the criticism "pathetic"

    Fùck you, Kenny, fùck you.

    See how pathetic is when you live in an area where getting to a hospital like Galway / Sligo / Mayo is well over an hour's drive.

    Galway being the closest but Tuam is a nightmare for anybody to get through, including ambulances.


  • #17
    mickydoomsux
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    Unfortunately, the resources aren't there to run these small A&Es because a lot of money is wasted in them patching up drunks and drug addicts. You'll notice that the hours that are being cut back in most of them are during the night, when this nonsense usually happens.

    The few times i've had to be in one of these hellholes the drunk/high people have outnumbered the people who were in for legitimate things.

    One time was when my grandmother was dying. It was great fun to have two crowds of scummers hurling abuse at each other whilst being pulled apart by security because they'd all been brought to the same A&E after they'd kicked the **** out of each other during their drinking binge. Refuse treatment to these types and you could probably run a much more efficient and fair health system and possibly keep these services up and running.


  • #18
    stovelid
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    Opelfruit wrote: »
    Try getting from Glenamaddy to Ballinasloe

    Thought the transport access was good there consider it had four roads heading into it?


  • #19
    Opelfruit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭Opelfruit


    stovelid wrote: »
    Thought the transport access was good there consider it had four roads heading into it?
    HA!

    Four dusty byways, I'm afraid!


  • #20
    mikom
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    mgmt wrote: »
    Close the A&E's in these small hospitals. It's best to amalgamate our resources into hospitals that serve a greater population and area base.


    *Looks into crystal ball*
    *Rubs first two fingers either side of temples*

    Let me guess............... location Dublin.


  • #21
    stovelid
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    mikom wrote: »
    *Looks into crystal ball*
    *Rubs first two fingers either side of temples*

    Let me guess............... location Dublin.

    Dublin is stuffed with culchies so they would only need a mullah hospital if they got sick on Saturday or Sunday.


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  • #22
    mikom
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    stovelid wrote: »
    so they would only need a mullah hospital if they got sick on Saturday or Sunday.

    Get a lot of Muslim men in Dublin?


  • #23
    stovelid
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    mikom wrote: »
    Get a lot of Muslim men in Dublin?

    Only when it's Sunni.


  • #24
    mikom
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    stovelid wrote: »
    Only when it's Sunni.

    shiite


  • #25
    phill106
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,833 ✭✭✭phill106


    mikom wrote: »
    Get a lot of Muslim men in Dublin?
    stovelid wrote: »
    Only when it's Sunni.
    or shi'ite....


  • #26
    stovelid
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    Mikom got in there first, Phil.


  • #27
    nacho libre
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    mgmt wrote: »
    It dosn't make just financial sense, people would get better care in larger A&Es with staff who have more experience and quicker response times in getting results back (blood tests etc.).


    what if you die before you get there, though? is your argument that with enhanced ambulances being deployed that people will be less likely to die in transit than they were in the past?


  • #28
    mgmt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭mgmt


    nacho libre wrote: »
    what if you die before you get there, though? is your argument that with enhanced ambulances being deployed that people will be less likely to die in transit than they were in the past?

    Did I mention ambulances??


  • #29
    stovelid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Opelfruit wrote: »
    HA!

    Four dusty byways, I'm afraid!

    Er, you may well find that the dusty byways in question in fact lead to "The Heart" and not to Glenamaddy though I readily accept that the former may well be a metaphor for same.


  • #30
    Chuck Stone
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    What about a dedicated helicopter-ambulance?

    Maybe based at knock?

    No?


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  • #31
    nacho libre
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    mgmt wrote: »
    Did I mention ambulances??

    No. Which is why I asked that question. I was wondering why you didn't.


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