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Real relationship vs prostitute

  • 11-07-2011 04:08AM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭


    For men.

    Real relationship.

    -Having to pretend to give a crap.
    -Having to pretend to be interested.
    -Having to alter your mood to cater for hers.
    -Having to "build" upon the relationship by doing awful crap together.
    -Being responsible to her cuz you happen to think shes worth the ride
    -All the small talk and mind numbing trivialities
    -Her frankness and the whole taking things quite literally
    -The point where theres really nothing new to say
    -The jealousy
    -The constant pressure of needing to impress her (mostly at the beginning)
    -I'm not married but already I'm sure that the above is pale in comparison to post wedding such as mortgage, monogamy, kids and other nasty things. All this just for sex.

    Or.....a prostitute. Only problem is they are way over priced.

    But the hypothetical condition is prostitution was a legal, socially exceptable job. For me its an easy call. I dont think men and women were supposed to attempt to tweak with eachothers minds, well not for too long anyway.


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71 ✭✭siobhanosaur


    Well you sound like a catch...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭mawk


    Problem is, op, you couldn't bring a prostitute home to your ma, as chances are they worked together before. that'd be awkward


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭guitarzero


    Well you sound like a catch...

    :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Jet Black


    Maybe you should just go for a middle ground and buy a mail order bride. Get one that cant speak english and you can cross most of that stuff of the list.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭johnmcdnl


    why not just get in a relationship with someone you like :confused:


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,463 Mod ✭✭✭✭xzanti


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    I need a few extra details before I can advise you to the best of my abilities.

    Your age?
    Your occupation?
    Your weekly / fortnightly / monthly wage?
    Are you terminally ill?
    Are you blind / deaf?
    How much are you willing to spend weekly on a prostitute?
    Do you have any allergies?
    What shampoo do you use?
    Where do you see yourself in ten years time?


    PM me your email address for an accurate, detailed reply.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭guitarzero


    I'm so offended by the responses, I thought I was right. Seems like I was way off. Maybe all the crap is worth the sex!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭Cavehill Red


    guitarzero wrote: »
    -I'm not married but ...

    Why am I not surprised at this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭guitarzero


    Why am I not surprised at this?

    Sense?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭Cavehill Red


    guitarzero wrote: »
    Sense?

    Yes, it probably is my sense that someone who equates visiting prostitutes with a loving relationship is unlikely to be married. Thanks for clearing that up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Snowie


    guitarzero wrote: »
    For men.

    Real relationship.

    -Having to pretend to give a crap.
    -Having to pretend to be interested.
    -Having to alter your mood to cater for hers.
    -Having to "build" upon the relationship by doing awful crap together.
    -Being responsible to her cuz you happen to think shes worth the ride
    -All the small talk and mind numbing trivialities
    -Her frankness and the whole taking things quite literally
    -The point where theres really nothing new to say
    -The jealousy
    -The constant pressure of needing to impress her (mostly at the beginning)
    -I'm not married but already I'm sure that the above is pale in comparison to post wedding such as mortgage, monogamy, kids and other nasty things. All this just for sex.

    Or.....a prostitute. Only problem is they are way over priced.

    But the hypothetical condition is prostitution was a legal, socially exceptable job. For me its an easy call. I dont think men and women were supposed to attempt to tweak with eachothers minds, well not for too long anyway.

    m

    you know genrally i like women cause they make me laugh and i make them laugh im kinda good at it... If your any way mature were all humans and we all have our moods!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭guitarzero


    Yes, it probably is my sense that someone who equates visiting prostitutes with a loving relationship is unlikely to be married. Thanks for clearing that up.

    Loving relationship, strong words.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭Cavehill Red


    guitarzero wrote: »
    Loving relationship, strong words.

    Strong words, strong emotions, strong experience.
    You should try it sometime. Might be the makings of you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭guitarzero


    Strong words, strong emotions, strong experience.
    You should try it sometime. Might be the makings of you.

    Been there actually.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭Cavehill Red


    guitarzero wrote: »
    Been there actually.

    Judging by your opening post, I doubt that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭Adyx


    I'm glad I'm not you, or one of your ex's. (Assuming you have any).

    Seriously if a relationship is just about sex for you then either you're 15, about as mature as a 15 year old or a troll. If you're just interested in sex then a one night stand is what you're after not a relationship.

    Children like you give the rest of us male adults a bad name.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭Cavehill Red


    GZ, let me amend your OP to reflect what a relationship actually should be about:


    -Having to pretend to give Giving a crap.
    -Having to pretend to be Being interested.
    -Having to alter your mood to cater for hers.
    In a good mood just because you're with her
    -Having to "build" upon the relationship by doing awful crap together.
    Wanting to do things together
    -Being responsible to her cuz you happen to think shes worth the ride
    -All the small talk and mind numbing trivialities sweet nothings, pillow talk and little things that only you two share
    -Her frankness and the whole taking things quite literally
    -The point where theres really nothing new to say a delight in knowing she's yours for keeps
    -The jealousy The devotion
    -The constant pressure of needing to impress her (mostly at the beginning)
    Wanting to please her and being delighted that she wants to please you too


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    Yano what I miss? when you were a kid and there were pint bottles of milk at the door. You had to get down there early to pour the creamy bit on your cornie flakes before the feckin' burds got at them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭guitarzero


    GZ, let me amend your OP to reflect what a relationship actually should be about:


    -Having to pretend to give Giving a crap.
    -Having to pretend to be Being interested.
    -Having to alter your mood to cater for hers.
    In a good mood just because you're with her
    -Having to "build" upon the relationship by doing awful crap together.
    Wanting to do things together
    -Being responsible to her cuz you happen to think shes worth the ride
    -All the small talk and mind numbing trivialities sweet nothings, pillow talk and little things that only you two share
    -Her frankness and the whole taking things quite literally
    -The point where theres really nothing new to say a delight in knowing she's yours for keeps
    -The jealousy The devotion
    -The constant pressure of needing to impress her (mostly at the beginning)
    Wanting to please her and being delighted that she wants to please you too

    You've destroyed my original post! The cheek. I think I speak for many men btw. Adyx - Dont reduce sex to something 15 yr old would prioritize. And dont kid yourself in thinking that all these X's of your own gave a crap about what you had to say because of your character. If you doubt, then dont put out and see how long he hangs about.

    I'm not saying its like this for every lad. I see thriving relationships but form speaking to a lot of fellas and my own personal dialogue:pac:, its really about the toss and tumble.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭Cavehill Red


    guitarzero wrote: »
    You've destroyed my original post! The cheek. I think I speak for many men btw. Adyx - Dont reduce sex to something 15 yr old would prioritize. And dont kid yourself in thinking that all these X's of your own gave a crap about what you had to say because of your character. If you doubt, then dont put out and see how long he hangs about.

    I'm not saying its like this for every lad. I see thriving relationships but form speaking to a lot of fellas and my own personal dialogue:pac:, its really about the toss and tumble.

    I 'destroyed' your original post because it could have been done under the trades descriptions act for posing as a description of a relationship! I think what I wrote better reflects what they're about to be honest, though I'm keen to hear what others think on that score.
    I think Adyx is a bloke, actually, what with describing himself as a male adult and all.
    If for you 'it's all about the toss and tumble', then yes, you probably are better off with a hooker. Certainly, it's better that some poor girl doesn't have to put up with your frankly bizarre attitude towards human relations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭guitarzero


    I think Adyx is a bloke, actually, what with describing himself as a male adult and all.

    This changes nothing.
    And its not a bizzare attitude. I have healthy relationships with friends who I actually get along with and stimulate my mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭Cavehill Red


    guitarzero wrote: »
    This changes nothing.
    And its not a bizzare attitude. I have healthy relationships with friends who I actually get along with and stimulate my mind.

    Do you pay them?
    If they asked for cash for their time with you, would you pay them?
    If not, why not?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭guitarzero


    Do you pay them?
    If they asked for cash for their time with you, would you pay them?
    If not, why not?

    If never had a prostitute. If I did of course I'd pay. Because I like women just for sex doesnt mean I'm a criminal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭Cavehill Red


    guitarzero wrote: »
    If never had a prostitute. If I did of course I'd pay. Because I like women just for sex doesnt mean I'm a criminal.

    Not what I asked.
    I asked would you pay your friends for the time they spend in your company, and if not, why not?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭guitarzero


    Not what I asked.
    I asked would you pay your friends for the time they spend in your company, and if not, why not?

    Why would I pay them? We are together in whats assumed as a pretty complimentary interaction. Otherwise we probably wouldnt be chums.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭Cavehill Red


    guitarzero wrote: »
    Why would I pay them? We are together in whats assumed as a pretty complimentary interaction. Otherwise we probably wouldnt be chums.

    Hmmm. That's a pity. I could use a few extra quid and was going to open negotiations on an hourly rate for my scintillating company.
    So, what you're saying basically is that you don't want to have a complimentary interaction with women. Do you feel inadequate or something?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭guitarzero


    Hmmm. That's a pity. I could use a few extra quid and was going to open negotiations on an hourly rate for my scintillating company.
    So, what you're saying basically is that you don't want to have a complimentary interaction with women. Do you feel inadequate or something?

    No, I dont find women ( in there 20's ) terribly interesting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭Cavehill Red


    guitarzero wrote: »
    No, I dont find women ( in there 20's ) terribly interesting.

    Maybe you're gay? You probably owe it to yourself to drop into one of those sauna places and find out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Abi wrote: »
    Yano what I miss? when you were a kid and there were pint bottles of milk at the door. You had to get down there early to pour the creamy bit on your cornie flakes before the feckin' burds got at them.

    Tell us moar about teh olden days Abi.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭guitarzero


    Maybe you're gay? You probably owe it to yourself to drop into one of those sauna places and find out.

    Thanks for the counsel but as far as I can tell, gay men and women go pretty well as chums.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,659 ✭✭✭Siuin


    This thread is depressing. I don't know why people are getting angry at this guy, they should pity him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭Cavehill Red


    guitarzero wrote: »
    Thanks for the counsel but as far as I can tell, gay men and women go pretty well as chums.

    How far can you tell that? You don't socialise with women and you won't go to the sauna either. Are you just assuming they all get on because they all avoid you? That's a bit paranoid, dude. I'm sure they'd like you if you made a bit of an effort, like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭guitarzero


    Siuin wrote: »
    This thread is depressing. I don't know why people are getting angry at this guy, they should pity him.

    Then get out! Thanks for the comment btw.

    Cavehill, I have socialized with women and gone out with women of my "generation" but grew bored of them pretty fast.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,247 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    guitarzero wrote: »
    I have healthy relationships with friends who I actually get along with and stimulate my mind.

    Then have sex with one of these friends. Or all of them, what the hell.

    If you don't find any of them sexually attractive, make friends with someone you do.

    If this seems impossible you're basically admitting the only people who will agree to have sex with you are boring, moody and jealous, which says more about you than them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    guitarzero wrote: »
    For men.

    Real relationship.

    -Having to pretend to give a crap.
    -Having to pretend to be interested.
    -Having to alter your mood to cater for hers.
    -Having to "build" upon the relationship by doing awful crap together.
    -Being responsible to her cuz you happen to think shes worth the ride
    -All the small talk and mind numbing trivialities
    -Her frankness and the whole taking things quite literally
    -The point where theres really nothing new to say
    -The jealousy
    -The constant pressure of needing to impress her (mostly at the beginning)
    -I'm not married but already I'm sure that the above is pale in comparison to post wedding such as mortgage, monogamy, kids and other nasty things. All this just for sex.

    Or.....a prostitute. Only problem is they are way over priced.

    But the hypothetical condition is prostitution was a legal, socially exceptable job. For me its an easy call. I dont think men and women were supposed to attempt to tweak with eachothers minds, well not for too long anyway.

    have you thought about a blow up doll...........?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,659 ✭✭✭Siuin


    guitarzero wrote: »
    Then get out!

    Wimmins may stay if I pay wimmins to stay ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 141 ✭✭Gilda Fortune


    You just havent met the right woman. It happens. I dated alot of guys before I got married, I found 95% were crap in bed (they believed women come from just sex alone - most women dont). The ones that had potential in the sack had personalities that didnt excite me. Then i met my husband and I was blown away, he was fantastic in bed, and equally as rude and stubborn as myself. You might get knocked out of your sox one day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    Good luck finding a prostitute that will wash your jocks and cook you dinner!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    Well OP you seem to meet some of the qualifying criteria for a Sociopath. So I hope you fail miserably in your serial killing career.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Its all about the fanny


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 322 ✭✭Dwaegon


    OP, maybe if you were interesting, or attractive enough to find someone interesting enough that you'd actually get on with, maybe you'd actually stop being so cynical about relationships and get on with finding someone that can actually stand to be around you for extended periods of time!

    (I intentionally left out being rich enough as if you're actually considering prostitutes as a viable option, then you have lots of money, you're just too damn awful to be with for that money in spite of your personality!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,028 ✭✭✭✭--LOS--


    You sound awfully immature op, guess you've never been in a serious relationship, your post is pretty insulting to men tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Dwaegon wrote: »
    OP, maybe if you were interesting, or attractive enough to find someone interesting enough that you'd actually get on with, maybe you'd actually stop being so cynical about relationships and get on with finding someone that can actually stand to be around you for extended periods of time!

    (I intentionally left out being rich enough as if you're actually considering prostitutes as a viable option, then you have lots of money, you're just too damn awful to be with for that money in spite of your personality!)
    For what it's worth I agree with the OP. Sex is brilliant and the game of trying to impress her at the begining can be fun and is all part of human nature. But honestly the whole pillow talk and sweet nothings thing gets on my nerves. Secretly though, of course.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 141 ✭✭Gilda Fortune


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    For what it's worth I agree with the OP. Sex is brilliant and the game of trying to impress her at the begining can be fun and is all part of human nature. But honestly the whole pillow talk and sweet nothings thing gets on my nerves. Secretly though, of course.
    Not all women want pillow talk and sweet nothings. maybe your just with the wrong type of woman. or maybe you might be better suited to a guy.
    You and the OP would make a fantastic couple. you could screw all the time and never have to deal with emotional crap. You could flip a coin to see who is the taker for the night. You should PM each other


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,915 ✭✭✭MungBean


    guitarzero wrote: »
    I think I speak for many men horny teenagers btw. .

    Fixed that for ya.

    Soon as you start **** kid all your problems will be solved. No need to have a relationship OR hire a prostitute.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Not all women want pillow talk and sweet nothings. maybe your just with the wrong type of woman. or maybe you might be better suited to a guy.
    You and the OP would make a fantastic couple. you could screw all the time and never have to deal with emotional crap. You could flip a coin to see who is the taker for the night. You should PM each other
    I don't know about the OP but I don't swing that way. And maybe not all women want pillow talk and sweet nothings, I don't know every woman in Ireland, but I can speak from my own experiences.

    Are you a man? If so what's your take on this sort of stuff?
    Skunkle wrote: »
    Soon as you start **** kid all your problems will be solved. No need to have a relationship OR hire a prostitute.

    You see? This is what men are like. /Ross voice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 141 ✭✭Gilda Fortune


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    I don't know about the OP but I don't swing that way. And maybe not all women want pillow talk and sweet nothings, I don't know every woman in Ireland, but I can speak from my own experiences.
    But the kind of unemotional relationship you describe really works better between two men. Maybe you should try it out first, honestly you could end up alot happier in your life. you obviously cannot fulfill the average Irish woman emotionally so why make your partner if you have one, unhappy . Let her be free to meet a normal emotionally receptive man who enjoys sex, laughter love hugs, kisses and compliments..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    But the kind of unemotional relationship you describe really works better between two men. Maybe you should try it out first, honestly you could end up alot happier in your life. you obviously cannot fulfill the average Irish woman emotionally so why make your partnet if you have one, unhappy . Let her be free to meet a normal emotionally receptive man who enjoys sex, laughter love hugs, kisses and compliments..
    Well that would be perfect if I were gay. But I'm not. So being in a sexual relationship with a man would be a bit pointless don't c'ya think?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 141 ✭✭Gilda Fortune


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    I don't know about the OP but I don't swing that way. And maybe not all women want pillow talk and sweet nothings, I don't know every woman in Ireland, but I can speak from my own experiences.

    Are you a man? If so what's your take on this sort of stuff?



    You see? This is what men are like. /Ross voice.
    No babe im 100% woman. But i like sex as much as a man does. And im better at it than most men. And not romantic crap. i like sex. But its also nice to get a hug and snuggle up sometimes.


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