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Oxegen/Witness Drug Seizures/Offences

  • 11-07-2011 02:11PM
    #1
    HellishHeat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭HellishHeat


    I was nabbed for possession of a small bit of hash at the Witness festival in 2003. When I finally got my day in court, in Naas, I (along with all other festival nab-ees) was convicted and, consequently, have a criminal record. I felt this was harsh, especially since a middle-aged man got the probation act, just before my conviction - He smashed a bottle over someone's head.

    I'm not here for pity (I know many of you will be delighted) or to moan. I just wondered if that trend has continued ever since. Presumably every one who gets caught for similar offences at Witness/Oxegen get the same treatment every year.

    Your stories please.

    FYI: I have not had any altercations with Gardaí before or since.


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  • #2
    ap1986
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭ap1986


    serves you right.a drug is a drug no matter what form it is.There were 90 people arrested in oxegen this year will people ever realise you dont need drugs to have a good time.FYI yes i did attend oxegen and had a fantastic time....without drugs


  • #3
    ScumLord
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    HellishHeat wrote: »
    I felt this was harsh, especially since a middle-aged man got the probation act, just before my conviction - He smashed a bottle over someone's head.
    Smashing a bottle over someone is just a bit of harmless play acting as far as the courts are concerned. Drugs on the other hand are the devils work and it's the nanny states job to help you live a good Christian life.


  • #4
    RichieC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    ap1986 wrote: »
    serves you right.a drug is a drug no matter what form it is.There were 90 people arrested in oxegen this year will people ever realise you dont need drugs to have a good time.FYI yes i did attend oxegen and had a fantastic time....without drugs

    Cigarettes and alcohol, coffee, tea. yes, a drug is a drug.


  • #5
    milehip1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 458 ✭✭milehip1


    ap1986 wrote: »
    serves you right.a drug is a drug no matter what form it is.There were 90 people arrested in oxegen this year will people ever realise you dont need drugs to have a good time.FYI yes i did attend oxegen and had a fantastic time....without drugs

    There you go kids just say no!


  • #6
    FatherLen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭FatherLen


    ap1986 wrote: »
    serves you right.a drug is a drug no matter what form it is.There were 90 people arrested in oxegen this year will people ever realise you dont need drugs to have a good time.FYI yes i did attend oxegen and had a fantastic time....without drugs


    sigh....


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  • #7
    im invisible
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭im invisible


    yeah, we cant have lads off their heads on hasheesh going aroundstabbing people, can we??


  • #8
    Frank Black
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,296 ✭✭✭Frank Black


    HellishHeat wrote: »
    I was nabbed for possession of a small bit of hash at the Witness festival in 2003. When I finally got my day in court, in Naas, I (along with all other festival nab-ees) was convicted and, consequently, have a criminal record. I felt this was harsh,


    FYP


  • #9
    Clara Glamorous Sordidness
    Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Clara Glamorous Sordidness


    ap1986 wrote: »
    serves you right.a drug is a drug no matter what form it is.There were 90 people arrested in oxegen this year will people ever realise you dont need drugs to have a good time.FYI yes i did attend oxegen and had a fantastic time....without drugs

    so you didn't have alcohol then? because a drug is a drug, no matter what...


  • #10
    orourkeda
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bR8XH3R95xE


  • #11
    4zn76tysfajdxp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    ap1986 wrote: »
    serves you right.a drug is a drug no matter what form it is.There were 90 people arrested in oxegen this year will people ever realise you dont need drugs to have a good time.FYI yes i did attend oxegen and had a fantastic time....without drugs

    *scrape scrape scrape*

    Allow me to scuff off those corners, you square.

    *scrape scrape scrape*


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  • #12
    El Weirdo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    ap1986 wrote: »
    serves you right.a drug is a drug no matter what form it is.There were 90 people arrested in oxegen this year will people ever realise you dont need drugs to have a good time.FYI yes i did attend oxegen and had a fantastic time....without drugs
    Lol.


  • #13
    hullaballoo
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    I have no sympathy for you, not because it's only a small amount of a relatively harmless drug but because you were stupid enough to bring it to Oxegen/Wittness.

    That festival has been the Drug Squad's life blood for years and they get their convictions quota for the year from the festival weekend. You're essentially bringing drugs up to the DS and slapping them in the face with your joints when you go to Oxegen etc.


  • #14
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ap1986 viewpost.gif
    serves you right.a drug is a drug no matter what form it is.There were 90 people arrested in oxegen this year will people ever realise you dont need drugs to have a good time.FYI yes i did attend oxegen and had a fantastic time....without drugs

    milehip1 wrote: »
    There you go kids just say no!

    ..... to punctuation and correct spelling.


    Oh by the way, from the Can's for Oxegen thread.....
    ap1986 wrote: »
    bavaria 8 for 9 !!!


  • #15
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    ap1986 wrote: »
    serves you right.a drug is a drug no matter what form it is.There were 90 people arrested in oxegen this year will people ever realise you dont need drugs to have a good time.FYI yes i did attend oxegen and had a fantastic time....without drugs

    I hope you thought of the children while you were there


  • #16
    ap1986
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭ap1986


    bluewolf wrote: »
    so you didn't have alcohol then? because a drug is a drug, no matter what...
    is alcohol an illegal drug??


  • #17
    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    ap1986 wrote: »
    There were 90 people arrested in oxegen this year will people ever realise you dont need drugs to have a good time.

    Apparently not.


  • #18
    arybvtcw0eolkf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,609 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    HellishHeat wrote: »
    I'm not here for pity

    After Hours swear filter fail, that should read;
    I'm not here for ****

    Because you'll get feck all pity here :p


  • #19
    ap1986
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭ap1986


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    I hope you thought of the children while you were there
    for god sake somebody think of the children!!


  • #20
    Cee-Jay-Cee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    While i dont have much sympathy for you i do have to agree that there is absolutely no consistency in irish courts and it sort of makes a mockery of it when in the same court someone charged with a far more serious offence effectively gets off scot free. You could understand an inconsistency in convictions between different courts but for the same judge to have a jekyll and hyde attitude to the cases he/she is hearing is ridiculous.


  • #21
    FatherLen
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    ap1986 wrote: »
    is alcohol an illegal drug??
    you didnt say an illegal drug is an illegal drug.
    you said a drug is a drug.
    alcohol is a drug.
    fact.


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  • #22
    Clara Glamorous Sordidness
    Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Clara Glamorous Sordidness


    ap1986 wrote: »
    serves you right.a drug is a drug no matter what form it is.There were 90 people arrested in oxegen this year will people ever realise you dont need drugs to have a good time.FYI yes i did attend oxegen and had a fantastic time....without drugs
    ap1986 wrote: »
    is alcohol an illegal drug??

    You said a drug is a drug, not "an illegal drug is an illegal drug".
    Question still stands.


  • #23
    ap1986
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭ap1986


    FatherLen wrote: »
    you didnt say an illegal drug is an illegal drug.
    you said a drug is a drug.
    alcohol is a drug.
    fact.
    thats funny i didnt see the heroin or cocaine stand in punchestown...........


  • #24
    ScumLord
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    ap1986 wrote: »
    is alcohol an illegal drug??
    As luck would have it it's not at this particular moment. Going by the side effects of other drugs it should be as it's by far and away one of the most dangerous drugs for both the individual using it and society at large.


  • #25
    Sungodbr
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 102 ✭✭Sungodbr


    ap1986 wrote: »
    serves you right.a drug is a drug no matter what form it is.There were 90 people arrested in oxegen this year will people ever realise you dont need drugs to have a good time.FYI yes i did attend oxegen and had a fantastic time....without drugs

    I dont agree with you or the state of Irish drug laws, they need to be made congruent with the actual world we live in, most other socially conscious developed countries have a probation act for small amounts of hash, Ireland is just legally underdeveloped and a nanny state full of politicians too lazy to enact real world laws and people too silly to know that the real world exists and that modern life is not something they can bury their heads in the sand to get away from by outlawing every substance


  • #26
    4zn76tysfajdxp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    ap1986 wrote: »
    thats funny i didnt see the heroin or cocaine stand in punchestown...........

    That stuff makes you weak at the knees.


  • #27
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    ap1986 wrote: »
    thats funny i didnt see the heroin or cocaine stand in punchestown...........

    Anddddd the leap has been made.....
    Check again what this thread started off mentioning.


  • #28
    Frank Black
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,296 ✭✭✭Frank Black


    ap1986 wrote: »
    thats funny i didnt see the heroin or cocaine stand in punchestown...........


    C'mon fella - stop trying to change the question.


  • #29
    stovelid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    ap1986 wrote: »
    serves you right.a drug is a drug no matter what form it is.There were 90 people arrested in oxegen this year will people ever realise you dont need drugs to have a good time.FYI yes i did attend oxegen and had a fantastic time....without drugs

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djG9g5hCOfU


  • #30
    ap1986
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭ap1986


    black francis wrote: »
    C'mon fella - stop trying to change the question.
    im just sayin there was a heineken bar down there because alcohol is legal.drugs aint.boom!!!!!!


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  • #31
    RMD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭RMD


    ap1986 wrote: »
    is alcohol an illegal drug??

    It's not illegal, but it's been proven to be more harmful than Ecstasy and Marijuana, 2 other drugs regularly enjoyed at Oxegen. Continue to poison yourself with cheap alcohol, I'll go buy some very good quality pills and do less damage to my body in the process.

    Just because it's legal doesn't make it good, and visa versa for illegal drugs.


  • #32
    FatherLen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭FatherLen


    ap1986 wrote: »
    im just sayin there was a heineken bar down there because alcohol is legal.drugs aint.boom!!!!!!
    alcohol = drug.
    what is it that you dont understand.


  • #33
    metalfest
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,016 ✭✭✭metalfest


    ap1986 wrote: »
    im just sayin there was a heineken bar down there because alcohol is legal.drugs aint.boom!!!!!!

    bbbbbbbbbbbbbuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuttttttttttttttttttt

    as has been said, alcohol IS a drug :pac:


  • #34
    pragmatic1
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    Didnt happen to me but my friend who was standing right next to me got caught with pills and a bit of hash. The gardai just took it off him and that was it. Never heard of anyone getting done for having small amounts.


  • #35
    Frank Black
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,296 ✭✭✭Frank Black


    ap1986 wrote: »
    im just sayin there was a heineken bar down there because alcohol is legal.drugs aint.boom!!!!!!


    Just trying to establish if you felt the need to take (legal) drugs to enjoy yourself - cause for a while there it seemed like you were saying that you didn't.


    BTW, alcohol for most people will have a bigger effect on their perceptions than a bit of hash.


  • #36
    El Weirdo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    pragmatic1 wrote: »
    Didnt happen to me but my friend who was standing right next to me got caught with pills and a bit of hash. The gardai just took it off him and that was it. Never heard of anyone getting done for having small amounts.
    Ah the old fake cop routine. Got me out of a few dry spells, that one.


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  • #37
    HellishHeat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭HellishHeat


    ap1986 wrote: »
    is alcohol an illegal drug??

    I strongly suspect that ap1986 is a Troll who's had more drugs than I've had hot dinners. (S)he's incredibly off topic and loving the attention.


  • #38
    pragmatic1
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    El Weirdo wrote: »
    Ah the old fake cop routine. Got me out of a few dry spells, that one.
    Nah we've done the fake cop too for a laugh. Twas the ds.


  • #39
    jimthemental
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    OP I think you were hard done by to get a criminal record over a bit of hash. I don't do any drugs myself but I don't have that holier than thou attitude some do. As someone said earlier there has to be some kind of consistency brought to convictions.


  • #40
    orourkeda
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  • #41
    FatherLen
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    i have never been caught nor do i know anyone that has been caught but i have heard stories of the police just confiscating the drugs and thats that. you must have just gotten an arsehole of a guard


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  • #42
    Spunge
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    ap1986 wrote: »
    serves you right.a drug is a drug no matter what form it is.There were 90 people arrested in oxegen this year will people ever realise you dont need drugs to have a good time.FYI yes i did attend oxegen and had a fantastic time....without drugs

    Oh rly ?

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=73191262&postcount=28


  • #43
    Lumbo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭Lumbo


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    Ah the old fake cop routine. Got me out of a few dry spells, that one.

    Did I punch you in the face when you tried to pull that trick at EP 05?


  • #44
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Spunge wrote: »
    Oh rly ?

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=73191262&postcount=28

    Too slow.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=73237210&postcount=14


  • #45
    Micky Dolenz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    ap1986 wrote: »
    serves you right.a drug is a drug no matter what form it is.There were 90 people arrested in oxegen this year will people ever realise you dont need drugs to have a good time.FYI yes i did attend oxegen and had a fantastic time....without drugs


    Mam, for fecks sake, get off the internet, you're making a show of me :o


  • #46
    HellishHeat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭HellishHeat


    jimthemental wrote: »
    OP I think you were hard done by to get a criminal record over a bit of hash. I don't do any drugs myself but I don't have that holier than thou attitude some do. As someone said earlier there has to be some kind of consistency brought to convictions.


    I sh!t you not: The Garda's name was Michael Stone. (Maybe not Michael but the surname is correct)

    Every Witness person, in court that day, got convicted. We weren't canny enough to give false names/addresses.


  • #47
    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    ap1986 wrote: »
    thats funny i didnt see the heroin or cocaine stand in punchestown...........
    ap1986 wrote: »
    im just sayin there was a heineken bar down there because alcohol is legal.drugs aint.boom!!!!!!

    Prosecuting people for taking drugs is sadistic. Just because it's the law doesn't mean it not a fantastically stupid law.


  • #48
    Spunge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭Spunge


    mikom wrote: »
    Too slow.

    oh snap


  • #49
    HellishHeat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭HellishHeat


    FatherLen wrote: »
    i have never been caught nor do i know anyone that has been caught but i have heard stories of the police just confiscating the drugs and thats that. you must have just gotten an arsehole of a guard


    oops. quoted the wrong fella last time.


  • #50
    Naikon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,564 ✭✭✭Naikon


    These drug laws are FAR too draconian. Dealing large amounts - maybe, but smoking a few harmless cannabis joints or whatever - no. It's beyond fcuking stupid imo.

    Alcohol is FAR worse when you compare long term abuse in comparison to something like cannabis. Don't see too many joint smokers smashing up Temple Bar of a saturday night either.


  • #51
    Bandana boy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭Bandana boy


    Naikon wrote: »
    These drug laws are FAR too draconian. Dealing large amounts - maybe, but smoking a few harmless cannabis joints or whatever - no. It's beyond fcuking stupid imo.

    Alcohol is FAR worse when you compare long term abuse in comparison to something like cannabis. Don't see too many joint smokers smashing up Temple Bar of a saturday night either.


    But they do buy up all the Gummy (gold) bears in the town -Damn Gummy bear hoarding hippys


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