The UCD computer network...WTF???

b20uvkft6m5xwg · 21-10-2002 1:29pm #1

Anyone care to speculate as to WTF has been going on for about a month now. Its taking up 1 hour to login and then it wont load the H: drive or Apps server.

The computing services crowd (as usual) are jam packed full of info on the whole thing.

seamus · 21-10-2002 1:38pm

It's all over the place? Ahh we thought it was just our lab, cos we're playing CS and Mohaa all the time and jamming up our network

Not affecting me now cos we got our linux logins today, so I'm zipping along, unhindered by Windoze or Novell badness

b20uvkft6m5xwg · 21-10-2002 1:47pm

No its everywhere Seamus.

The feckin thing is collapsing further every single day-
I heard there was a virus with the printing service but its a feckin disgrace-

Roebuck Castle was always relaible and super fast but its gone to the dogs as of recent- as has every other lab on the campus for some reason.

Other horror strories welcomed

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BTW, What is it like for other 3rd level Instit. on HEANET- do you guys have probs simialr to UCD??

daveirl · 21-10-2002 6:02pm

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Makaveli · 21-10-2002 6:19pm

In DCU from what I can make out, every single computer in the library is "low on virtual memory" so if you actually get to login it usually crashes if you try running application.
Thank god I got my login for the CA building, no more crappy library computers to worry about.

Giblet · 22-10-2002 4:01pm

Tallaght has gotten REALLY slow, and we dont even have our logins yet! They took on too many students this year, and they're all using everyone of the computers everyday. You'd get like 2k/s! browsing websites!

Ruaidhri · 22-10-2002 4:06pm

dunno about you but the network in carlow IT is gone to s***. bandwidth is being hogged somewhere and it is taking about 200-400% longer to log in this year.
technically there should be no problem as we are running a gigabit as the back bone and 100mbps switched for each floor.

although i suspect that the login server is being ass-raped....

although saying that the computer services dept had 10(yes 10)wireless network cards(pcmcia) for laptops...now all i have to do is wait for my one to arrive and no more crap comps for me

Mr.Applepie · 22-10-2002 7:19pm

Originally posted by Makaveli
In DCU from what I can make out, every single computer in the library is "low on virtual memory" so if you actually get to login it usually crashes if you try running application.
Thank god I got my login for the CA building, no more crappy library computers to worry about.

Ah they aint that bad. They're a little slow but the server is very stable. There was very few problems(if any) last year.

Got some nice new Dells in the business school! Talk about fast mmmmmmmmmmmm

/me goes off to drool in private

Pepe LeFrits · 22-10-2002 7:44pm

UCD computing services:

Virus Update
22.10.2002

Computing Services is continuing it's clean up after the effects of the Bugbear virus. Currently, you may be experiencing slow login times and general slowness on using software from the network (NAL). Computing Services are fully aware of these problems and are working to have all services back to normal as soon as possible.

b20uvkft6m5xwg · 22-10-2002 9:33pm

Ironically Kaids they been reiterating the same thing since August but still no bloody change- and its so frustrating because its in your face every time you log on- www.ucd.ie/computing is the default homepage:mad:

Granted there they did have to deal with the bugbear virus last week.

seamus · 23-10-2002 1:26pm

I blame eircom

Beastie · 23-10-2002 1:36pm

The slowness of the network is just those computing services **** trying to get things fixed after the virus, some of the labs are alrite now physics and the 2nd comp sci labs are workin ok just a litle slow, which is a rite pain cos i dont have me physics done and i was gonna blame the puters

b20uvkft6m5xwg · 24-10-2002 9:34am

Originally posted by seamus
I blame eircom

naturally

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heres the latest from http://www.ucd.ie/computing....

Service Announcement
23.10.2002

Computing Services are aware that both staff and students are experiencing serious difficulties due to ongoing disruption of network login and application services. Computing Services are working to rectify these problems as soon as possible. The following is a list of services and the status of each one:

Service Status
E-mail Currently experiencing no problems
Internet Access Currently experiencing no problems
Login to network Experiencing problems with slow login times
Launching Network Applications (NAL) Experiencing problems with slow launch times of network applications
Staff Printing Generally returning to normal after the Bugbear virus but there still maybe some isolated cases of the virus on staff machines that could be causing some printing problems
Student Printing Generally returning to normal with all Computing Services student labs. Free from the virus Bugbear
On-Line Classes Experiencing problems with slow login times
E-Learning (Blackboard) Currently experiencing no problems
Portal (UCD Connect) Currently experiencing no problems
Other web services Currently experiencing no problems

seamus · 24-10-2002 11:01am

That's all those Arts students. "Oh, I got an attachment, with this email that makes no sense to me.....I bet it's funny. Let's see.....'ImABigDirtyVirus.xls.scr' (click click)" (Pause) "Someone's after breaking my computer!"

Pepe LeFrits · 24-10-2002 2:47pm

Originally posted by seamus
That's all those Arts students. "Oh, I got an attachment, with this email that makes no sense to me.....I bet it's funny. Let's see.....'ImABigDirtyVirus.xls.scr' (click click)" (Pause) "Someone's after breaking my computer!"

Screw you!

beardedchicken · 24-10-2002 2:51pm

OI! ITSN OT JUTS ARTS STUDDNTS! I TAEK OFFENS TO THAT!!!!
DNSKVNDKVDI CSICLZHDSIN VSILCVNKNC !! YEAH!!

b20uvkft6m5xwg · 24-10-2002 3:59pm

ooooooohhhhhh....

Touché

DannyD · 24-10-2002 4:11pm

If you are still experiencing difficulties with Network login and/or network applications (NAL) on Tuesday 29th October, the following contingencies will be in place.
Service and Access
Staff
* If you can login to the network but are experiencing problems launching NAL, where possible use local applications, see below or go to START, RUN, type
Y:\ Shortcuts. This will launch a folder with MS Office, Pegasus Mail and other popular applications - this will only work if you have already run this application before on your machine through NAL
* If you are having problems logging in, or cannot login at all to the network, use local applications such as MS Office and Outlook (E-mail client), which are available on CD (copies were sent to all UCD staff with our last Newsletter). Please contact ext. 2360 if you require a copy.
* Internet services, E-mail, E-learning (Blackboard), UCD Connect (Portal), On-Line Classes (AUC) can all be accessed through direct login to each service.
* To run a local e-mail client on your PC, the Pegasus mail client can be downloaded from our website - www.ucd.ie/computing

Students
* Students should login but need not wait for NAL to launch
* MS-Office, Internet Explorer are available directly from the Start menu on Computing Services student laboratory PCs. Pegasus mail and other popular applications will be available from next Tuesday 29th
* Use these local installations for Internet access, e-mail, E-Learning (Blackboard), UCD Connect (Portal) On-Line Classes (AUC) and other popular applications
* For other applications NAL is still required
Service Preferred Access Method
E-mail Access via local email client or shortcut
Internet Access Access via local Web Browser
Login to network Staff - please see above. Students - continue to login
Launching Network Applications (NAL) Avoid launching NAL where possible
Staff - Go to Start , Run, type Y: \Shortcuts
Staff Printing Print locally
Student Printing Login and use GPAS printing
On-Line Classes (AUC) Start from local Web Browser
E-Learning (Blackboard) Start from local Web Browser
UCD Connect (Portal) Start from local Web Browser

Makaveli · 25-10-2002 7:59am

Originally posted by Mr.Applepie
Ah they aint that bad. They're a little slow but the server is very stable. There was very few problems(if any) last year.

Got some nice new Dells in the business school! Talk about fast mmmmmmmmmmmm

/me goes off to drool in private

The library computers are crap.
Actually last year I was the one person to get stung with a crap computer in the lab, it was lagged all the time and eventually stopped working, so I had to wander around the lab looking for a free computer.
No new computers from what I can see in computer applications.

b20uvkft6m5xwg · 25-10-2002 2:20pm

All seems to be back to its normal/mediocre self as I write.

Call off the hounds (for the minute at least)

Man U babe · 28-10-2002 6:53pm

Well, there was one advantage to all this network crap-1st CS labs cancelled last week! (me hates cs............).
Another crash roundabout 4pm thurs would be nice.....
BTW anyone going to Tommy Tiernan tues nite?

Pepe LeFrits · 29-10-2002 1:45pm

Fup sake, half the websites i try and access won't load now

Can't get on IRC either.

grrrr

seamus · 29-10-2002 1:49pm

Yeah, windoze machines are having trouble today.........If you've ever been able to get on IRC from UCD....tell us!

rob1891 · 29-10-2002 2:18pm

Can you little bastards not get on to netsoc, eeep, if that's the case the place has really gone to ****!

telnet orca.ucd.ie, and use the menu system.... "More Internet services" > "Internet Relay Chat client".

I doubt it's the prettiest, but should do you for your hit.

Outbound connections are definitly working from the netsoc machines. Don't know if their proxy stuff is up and running, it usually is .... you should be able to configure your favourite app with the http proxy:

proxy.netsoc.ucd.ie:3128

Of course how many of you signed up for netsoc, thought you could rely on UCD to provide you with a reliable internet service did you, muuwwwhahhahahahah!

<netsoc's revenge>

rob

b20uvkft6m5xwg · 29-10-2002 4:28pm

First time to log onto today and its slooooowwww

BTW, Kaids ( I echo Seamus's query )
How are you getting onto IRC.

I've tried various methods w/ http2socks etc but still no luck

Do fill us in

seamus · 30-10-2002 12:12pm

And seamus has IRC in UCD. W00t!

/me does super happy fun dance

just follow rob's directions. Convince a friend to let you use their netsoc login......

b20uvkft6m5xwg · 30-10-2002 2:51pm

Ackkk i dont think I know anyone in NetSoc anymore.
Not since they allowed unfettered Net Access for everyone have I bothered with Netsoc. I was a member for years 1-3 (98-2001) and then didnt bother last year or this.

In some ways I know if I could get onto IRC i prolly would never get off it!! I'd be far more interested in getting Kazaa working.

Does anyone know any good mp3 Websites for http downloads??

Gerry · 30-10-2002 2:59pm

My god all these other college it departments actually make maynooth look half decent. Never have a problem logging in, and the network seems to run smoothly all the time. ( And I have a fast pc all to myself in here with no firewall

)

Typedef · 30-10-2002 3:03pm

I have never seen the UCD network, but I can say with some certainty that whatever the problem is, it's a Windows issue.

Pepe LeFrits · 30-10-2002 3:22pm

http://www.http-tunnel.com

Its shit slow, but it usually does the job for IRC. If a bit laggily.

Very easy to setup, even i can get it going and i'm retarded when it comes to these sort of things. I used to IRC with telnet via netsoc in 1st year, but the client was a pain in the ass. I'd take a slow mIRC over that any day

Couldn't be bothered joining netsoc this year, waste of money.

seamus · 30-10-2002 3:26pm

Originally posted by Typedef
I have never seen the UCD network, but I can say with some certainty that whatever the problem is, it's a Windows issue.

Indeed. The bulk of the network sits on Novell Servers...........Of course here in CS we have unix systems that will take over when the badness comes

sceptre · 02-11-2002 4:10am

Originally posted by 80project
BTW, What is it like for other 3rd level Instit. on HEANET- do you guys have probs simialr to UCD??

UL is, well, fine (surprisingly)

Net access is just fine if you're browsing, though if you're downloading it depends on what time of the week it is (FTP sites are slower during the week, grabbing an obscure file from Microsoft (presumably not cached anywhere so good as a test) is very fast all the time)

The only bad things about PCs in UL are the long queues (solution: log on to a linux box in the CS building) and the terrible* P120s they still have on offer in the library (running win2ksp2 no less - and on just 48megs of RAM too)

CS building is nicely ring-fenced from lesser mortals. Not necessarily the fastest machines but everything always works. They pretty much log keystrokes though (not kidding) so I wouldn't even dream of doing anything odd there. Or even anything at all really - hard to type when a bogeyman may be watching over your shoulder.

*I know they're terrible because I put through the purchase order for them from accounts in 1997. Back in my co-op accounting days. It was either that or try to run NT4 on 8 megs of RAM (for some reason the IT department thought that just might work:D)

daveirl · 02-11-2002 12:04pm

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b20uvkft6m5xwg · 04-11-2002 4:53pm

Originally posted by kaids
http://www.http-tunnel.com

Thx for that Kaids-

I tried it on Friday night and yesterday (Sunday...yes) w/ Lazaa-Lite. It was painfully slow but I got a few mp3's d/l in about the same time as dial-up-
It all depends on the time of day and what else your doing. I was writing stuff in word so I wasnt surfing the net at the same time and obviosuly the network traffic was minmal yesterday. (I was in the Stats Lab- 5th floor library)

Heres 2 pics to prove...

b20uvkft6m5xwg · 04-11-2002 4:54pm

no 2...

beardedchicken · 12-11-2002 10:51am

oh this is getting ridiculous!!!!!! yesterday all the pcs on the 4th floor of the library weren't working, and now onlineclasses isn't working anywhere either!! aagh!!

Pepe LeFrits · 12-11-2002 2:14pm

yep, http-tunnel is very slow, but it USUALLY does for mirc. the subscription service looks a lot faster, cant be arsed paying for it tho. At quiet times the subscription service speed test has come out as high as 162kb/s for me.

santalives · 18-11-2002 8:34pm

I am not sure if this will work, use to work when i was in UCD 2 years ago, if you have a netsoc account you can usually use their socks server to get around stuff like the main UCD proxy. however as most people in UCD do not see the point of netsoc untill you run into a problem like this you probably are not a member

seamus · 21-11-2002 2:20pm

And again, it's gone bye bye......No NAL, Slow logins.....Hello linux

adnans · 26-11-2002 2:24am

Originally posted by Giblet
Tallaght has gotten REALLY slow, and we dont even have our logins yet! They took on too many students this year, and they're all using everyone of the computers everyday. You'd get like 2k/s! browsing websites!

same with DLIADT. i think we piggyback our bandwidth through tallaght IT. downloads used to be 300k/sec, now youre lucky if you get 10k/sec.

adnans

b20uvkft6m5xwg · 04-02-2003 5:00pm

Now and again this thread resurrects itself
and once again I'm forced to ask the Q....

The UCD computer network...WTF???

Its been down all day until Now :mad:

Red Alert · 04-02-2003 9:42pm

It's a total and utter joke.... Printing seems to be like playing roulette

Solution: Switch ALL the desktops to linux, get rid of NetWare and use ordinary Network File System (NFS) ...... imagine what computing services could do with all the licensing money they're paying to Microsoft - we'd nearly have a network server each to ourselves

Pepe LeFrits · 04-02-2003 9:59pm

Yep FS, have an assignment due on thurs morning, it better fuppin be working tommorrow.

MagicBusDriver · 11-02-2003 12:19am

Originally posted by Red Alert
It's a total and utter joke.... Printing seems to be like playing roulette

Solution: Switch ALL the desktops to linux, get rid of NetWare and use ordinary Network File System (NFS) ...... imagine what computing services could do with all the licensing money they're paying to Microsoft - we'd nearly have a network server each to ourselves

The network problems have nothing to do with Windows. It is down to incompetent Computer services. They have great difficulty dealing with simple problems. Also viruses can cause huge problems on a large network.

Linux would be a joke on the desktop. Linux is not free, The cost of linux techies is far higher than what UCD pay for licensing. If you love Linus so much why don't you use it yourself on the desktop?

Red Alert · 11-02-2003 8:39am

Let's get a fact straight - i do use Linux on the desktop

seamus · 11-02-2003 12:58pm

Originally posted by MagicBusDriver
The network problems have nothing to do with Windows. It is down to incompetent Computer services. They have great difficulty dealing with simple problems. Also viruses can cause huge problems on a large network.

Linux would be a joke on the desktop. Linux is not free, The cost of linux techies is far higher than what UCD pay for licensing. If you love Linus so much why don't you use it yourself on the desktop?

Linux is completely free, and if the techs are even slightly competent, simple problem solving isn't a problem. LInux dual boots with Win2K on every comp in the CS building. When windows dies, I switch to Linux and suddenly everything works again.

/me points finger at Novell/Microsoft badness

Stark · 11-02-2003 1:06pm

ucc network is f*cked as well, and we run mixture of windows and linux. Big problem is these labs in the chemistry department. Open shares with Unreal tournament installed on them. Students in every department in the college are playing the game straight off the network shares. Stupid chemistry admins won't take it off the machines.

It's a weird situation where outside access is fine but internal access is fubarred.

Molly · 11-02-2003 1:46pm

Unreal tournament was deleted but was put back on yesterday (not too sure if it was yesterday). I'm quite oblivious as to what part of the ucc network is fucked so it would be nice if you could enlighten me.

Red Alert · 11-02-2003 10:00pm

Seamus, how do you access your NetWare share files under LInux?

Why don't they add Linux to the multi-boot menus that appear in all the computer labs?

Is it a case that Computing Services are either incompetent or are on the receiving end of goodies from Micro$oft in return for bolstering their monopoly in UCD!

daveirl · 11-02-2003 11:50pm

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Red Alert · 12-02-2003 8:28am

It's terrible up in the Eng 321 computer lab - they're always playing multiplayer versions of i don't know what but it sure as hell slows the network down for everyone.

The UCD computer network...WTF???

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