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Bargain TVs for Saorview Irish DTT Reception

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  • #2
    watty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,451 ✭✭✭✭watty


    The LG 42LD450 is excellent and in reality takes little more space than a 4:3 28" CRT
    It only lacks certification and OTA upgrades. Has none of the compatibility issues of LG 42LD490 if you set Ireland + Data is Teletext or MHEG in Menu.
    http://www.techtir.ie/howto/hdmi-via-cat5-cable
    If the one you get won't play USB video http://www.techtir.ie/howto/enable-42ld450-video-playback

    Excellent upscale on RGB SCART and comb filter + upscale on composite in PAL

    However the next tranche of sets will have more HDMI inputs, certification etc...

    42" is really minimum size for regular living room for HD.

    19" to 32" for 2nd sets, kitchens, study, bedroom etc.


  • #3
    lucernarian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,236 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    Thanks for that post STB!

    The €150 TV from pixmania would look interesting for a lot of people (i.e. college students who aren't completely broke or a group of students looking for a house) but then delivery is another €18 so the equivalent Walker is then only €3 more in Power City.


  • #4
    James.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭James.


    To_be_confirmed wrote: »
    Thanks for that post STB!

    The €150 TV from pixmania would look interesting for a lot of people (i.e. college students who aren't completely broke or a group of students looking for a house) but then delivery is another €18 so the equivalent Walker is then only €3 more in Power City.

    exactly. it is ridiculous quoting prices without including the delivery cost.

    stb it is not possible to get the tvs from pixmania for the prices you have quoted


  • #5
    jaggiebunnet
    Registered Users Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭jaggiebunnet


    James. wrote: »
    exactly. it is ridiculous quoting prices without including the delivery cost.

    stb it is not possible to get the tvs from pixmania for the prices you have quoted

    some people need to get a grip

    STB posted a helpful post off his own back - of course there are delivery costs involved :rolleyes:


  • #6
    STB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    James you got your response in the Bargains thread.

    Get over yourself.
    To_be_confirmed wrote: »
    Thanks for that post STB!

    The €150 TV from pixmania would look interesting for a lot of people (i.e. college students who aren't completely broke or a group of students looking for a house) but then delivery is another €18 so the equivalent Walker is then only €3 more in Power City.

    Yes but in comparison to shop prices in Ireland it is still a bargain.

    Please do not compare Walker to a premium brand name !


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  • #7
    James.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭James.


    jaggiebunnet wrote: »
    - of course there are delivery costs involved :rolleyes:

    so why not post them - post the total cost.

    and delivery costs are not always involved, so you are wrong.

    amazon dont charge for delivery of tvs and are way better value than pixmania on almost everything. stb doesnt even seem to know this.

    so maybe stick to discussing the technicalities and leave the bargains for the bargain alert forum


  • #8
    lucernarian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,236 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    STB wrote: »
    Yes but in comparison to shop prices in Ireland it is still a bargain.

    Please do not compare Walker to a premium brand name !
    The fact that this Walker TV is saorview-tested and compatible very much counts for something and indeed perhaps I shouldn't compare a saorview-certified TV to a non saorview-certified TV. Brand names also don't hold much sway with me in that many manufacturers tend to buy the LCD or LED panels off a few existing Chinese, South Korean or Japanese manufacturers directly and are then assembled in the brand's own factories in China and using other parts that were also outsourced to chinese manufacturers.

    Having seen the 22 inch walker for myself, I thought the build and display standard was reasonable in comparison to contemporary models. The remote control was also better than with some of the LCD TVs that I've used.

    The LG priced above is indeed a bargain, but for those looking for the cheapest Saorview TV money can buy, the Walker is worth a mention. I've personally experienced Pixmania's poor returns service and there's a lot to be said for a car trip to Power City in comparison.


  • #9
    jaggiebunnet
    Registered Users Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭jaggiebunnet


    James. wrote: »
    so why not post them - post the total cost.

    and delivery costs are not always involved, so you are wrong.

    amazon dont charge for delivery of tvs and are way better value than pixmania on almost everything. stb doesnt even seem to know this.

    so maybe stick to discussing the technicalities and leave the bargains for the bargain alert forum

    well why not post some bargains from amazon and add to the thread instead of coming on moaning about it and contributing zilch?


  • #10
    STB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    James. wrote: »

    so maybe stick to discussing the technicalities and leave the bargains for the bargain alert forum

    You wouldnt know it was a bargain unless someone told you it had the technical capabilities in the first instance.


  • #11
    Badgermonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,019 ✭✭✭Badgermonkey


    Thanks STB, good resource and I've a feeling this thread will attract significant interest.

    You've the LG 32LD450 is listed at €299 from Powercity.ie, alternative Amazon option €275 would be a good addition to the list as many outside the pale can't get to Powercity.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003FMSIQ8/ref=s9_simh_gw_p23_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0P695WW6J6VMJNGKSY05&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=467128533&pf_rd_i=468294


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  • #12
    STB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    To_be_confirmed wrote: »
    The fact that this Walker TV is saorview-tested and compatible very much counts for something and indeed perhaps I shouldn't compare a saorview-certified TV to a non saorview-certified TV. Brand names also don't hold much sway with me in that many manufacturers tend to buy the LCD or LED panels off a few existing Chinese, South Korean or Japanese manufacturers directly and are then assembled in the brand's own factories in China and using other parts that were also outsourced to chinese manufacturers.

    Having seen the 22 inch walker for myself, I thought the build and display standard was reasonable in comparison to contemporary models. The remote control was also better than with some of the LCD TVs that I've used.

    The LG priced above is indeed a bargain, but for those looking for the cheapest Saorview TV money can buy, the Walker is worth a mention. I've personally experienced Pixmania's poor returns service and there's a lot to be said for a car trip to Power City in comparison.

    Do you believe all that though ?? :) Really ? be honest, would you buy an uncertified LG/Samsung or a certified OEM rebadge for the sake of €20 difference?

    I mean they are made in Turkey for a start. They are not the same components as used in premium products from S Korea for example. Outside diffrent chipsets, most of the time the software is clunky in my experience. Certification does not guarantee product life, expecially as regards panels ! I have tried a lot of OEM rebadged gear and it can be frought with issues after a small time (so signs on it I have a ready supply of replacement boards and components.

    I have also tested the Walkers, fine....

    Me personally ? Buy cheap.... etc


  • #13
    James.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭James.


    jaggiebunnet wrote: »
    well why not post some bargains from amazon and add to the thread instead of coming on moaning about it and contributing zilch?
    STB wrote: »
    You wouldnt know it was a bargain unless someone told you it had the technical capabilities in the first instance you idiot.

    the tvs linked to on pixmania are not bargains.

    in the 32" category for example the LG-32LD450 which is a better tv than the one stb posted costs less from amazon than pixmania :

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/LG-32LD450-32-inch-Widescreen-Freeview/dp/B003FMSIQ8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1305544986&sr=8-1


  • #14
    watty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,451 ✭✭✭✭watty


    Badgermonkey wrote: »
    Thanks STB, good resource and I've a feeling this thread will attract significant interest.

    You've the LG 32LD450 is listed at €299 from Powercity.ie, alternative Amazon option €275 would be a good addition to the list as many outside the pale can't get to Powercity.

    Powercity appear to allege free nationwide delivery ...
    STB
    Do you believe all that though ?? Really ? be honest, would you buy an uncertified LG/Samsung or a certified OEM rebadge for the sake of €20 difference?
    Difficult. People caught out on LG 42LD490 might argue the Walker/Certified is better.

    Certainly as time goes on it makes sense to buy Certified (there are now Sony & Samsung). Buying non-certified is a research project or deciding which "expert" to believe.

    And the experts have been known to make mistakes. I know I have.


  • #15
    bk
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,476 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    MOD: Please keep things civil. Remember attack the post, not the poster.


  • #16
    STB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    James. wrote: »
    the tvs linked to on pixmania are not bargains.

    in the 32" category for example the LG-32LD450 which is a better tv than the one stb posted costs less from amazon than pixmania :

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/LG-32LD450-32-inch-Widescreen-Freeview/dp/B003FMSIQ8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1305544986&sr=8-1

    ???

    I did post about the LG 32LD450 - and the link is to an Irish walk retailer - NOT PIXMANIA! Are you talking about the Samsumg ? which was €259 from pixmania - which is cheap inclusive of the €18 delivery - and not available at near that price on amazon or an Irish retailer!

    Besides the convenience factor of walk in for the LG, Would you rather deal with a faceless amazon import website or an Irish shop for the sake of €20 difference ? I am sure you will spend more than €20 should you have a problem with it! The Tvs posted are significant savings and take all of this into account. Dont second guess someone who knows what they are talking about.

    Last post to you as you are grating on my nerves and have contributed nothing.

    No more feeding of Trolls. I read your recent posts, besides googling and giving out, do you actually contribute anything ? Do one.


  • #17
    Badgermonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,019 ✭✭✭Badgermonkey


    watty wrote: »
    Powercity appear to allege free nationwide delivery ...

    Almost, just checked with them and there's a token charge of €5.00 on 32" TV's, kudos to them.

    I enabled USB movie functionality on LG 32LD450 using a One for all URC, seemed a somewhat simpler process to method you advocated on Techtir.

    I'd imagine different panel size has no bearing on efficacy.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=72078267&postcount=121


  • #18
    watty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,451 ✭✭✭✭watty


    Fine if you *HAVE* a suitable "one for all". I should have mentioned that too.

    I updated it with a credit to you :)


  • #19
    toby2111
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭toby2111


    Anyone know if this is Saorview compatible-

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-LE32C450-32-inch-Widescreen-Ready/dp/B003DNSJAO/ref=sr_1_11?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1305664343&sr=1-11

    Seems a decent price at £224.95.Is there a catch?


  • #20
    byte
    Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,173 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    toby2111 wrote: »
    Anyone know if this is Saorview compatible-

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-LE32C450-32-inch-Widescreen-Ready/dp/B003DNSJAO/ref=sr_1_11?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1305664343&sr=1-11

    Seems a decent price at £224.95.Is there a catch?

    Yes, these work fine with Saorview as it stands (I dunno if Saorview services will change much, like AAC audio and if the Sammy supports it?). The digital Aertel etc all work well.


  • #21
    toby2111
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭toby2111


    Thanks,think I need a smaller TV,around 24",is this one Saorview compatible-

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004RCNRWA/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

    How do I know from the product description if it is or not?


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  • #22
    Irish Kev
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 257 ✭✭Irish Kev


    STB wrote: »
    They arent certified, but they work for Irish DTT and do MHEG5 text as well (most play videos from USB as well).

    Some of the genuine bargains knocking around at present. The ones marked red are the most serious bargains at present. Its clear that the LG 320 warehoused stock is being cleared off shelves from the UK - which will be of benefit to the Irish consumer in these cases.

    19" TVs

    LG 19LD320 LCD Television €149
    http://www.pixmania.ie/ie/uk/4968070/art/lg/19ld320-lcd-television.html

    Samsung LE19C450 LCD Television €179
    http://www.pixmania.ie/ie/uk/5293547/art/samsung/le19c450-lcd-television.html

    32"
    Samsung LE32C350 LCD Television €259
    http://www.pixmania.ie/ie/uk/5035973/art/samsung/le32c350-lcd-television.html#pix-review

    LG 32LD320 €279 (its €489 in Harvey Norman!!)
    http://www.did.ie/Product/LG-32andquot-LCD-TV-32LD320/18949/500
    http://www.powercity.ie/?par=10-12-32LD32

    LG 32LD450 €299
    http://www.powercity.ie/?par=10-12-32LD45&pages=1&prod=32LD45&brands=LG&image=

    LG LED 32LE4900 €342
    http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/lg-32le4900-32-full-hd-led-tv-07706841-pdt.html


    40-42"
    Samsung LE40C630 - €449
    http://www.pixmania.ie/ie/uk/5044231/art/samsung/le40c630-lcd-television.html

    LG 42LD450 €422
    http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/lg-42ld450-42-full-hd-lcd-tv-04877700-pdt.html

    Saorview Approved
    Sony KDL-32CX520 LCD TV €450 incl delivery from Amazon
    Samsung Series 4 LE32D450 Less than €350 - Dixons STG£315
    Samsung Series 5 LE32D550 €365 Pixmania/Amazon
    Samsung Series 5 LE37D550 STG £383 Pixmania
    SAMSUNG LE32D550 or UE32D5000 €400 from Amazon or Dixons

    Great post, would be better if you added 46" LED for me :D


  • #23
    byte
    Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,173 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    toby2111 wrote: »
    Thanks,think I need a smaller TV,around 24",is this one Saorview compatible-

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004RCNRWA/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

    How do I know from the product description if it is or not?
    Since that only specifies Freeview (MPEG2), then no, I don't think that will be compatible.


  • #24
    toby2111
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭toby2111


    Ok,thanks.Does anyone know of any good value 24" TV's that are saorview compatible?


  • #25
    Macy0161
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,626 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    STB wrote: »
    Please do not compare Walker to a premium brand name !
    Wouldn't compare the brands, but over the years I've had far more problems with pixmania than I've ever had with my 5 year old Walker telly!


  • #26
    dmm1000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭dmm1000


    Hannspree ST321MNB 32" LCD TV Full HD 1080p 4 x HDMI Black

    http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/hannspree-st321mnb-32-lcd-tv-full-hd-1080p-199-ebuyer-ebay-outlet/940482#comments


    the above TV looks to be Saorview compatible with MPEG4 and MHEG5 - great deal at the moment for anyone on the Ebuyer site

    (or the discussion above linking to their Ebay outlet )

    specs here

    http://www.scan.co.uk/PDFs/Products/36792.pdf

    may be only suitable if you can deliver to a NI Address - havent checked delivery options to ROI


  • #27
    Badgermonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,019 ✭✭✭Badgermonkey


    dmm1000 wrote: »
    Hannspree ST321MNB 32" LCD TV Full HD 1080p 4 x HDMI Black

    http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/hannspree-st321mnb-32-lcd-tv-full-hd-1080p-199-ebuyer-ebay-outlet/940482#comments


    the above TV looks to be Saorview compatible with MPEG4 and MHEG5 - great deal at the moment for anyone on the Ebuyer site

    (or the discussion above linking to their Ebay outlet )

    specs here

    http://www.scan.co.uk/PDFs/Products/36792.pdf

    may be only suitable if you can deliver to a NI Address - havent checked delivery options to ROI

    Ebuyer stopped delivering to ROI about a month ago.

    Their ebay outlet never offered Irish delivery unfortunately.


  • #28
    byte
    Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,173 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    Does anyone know if the 32" Hannspree works with the Digital Aertel? I ask, because the 28" models didn't work, despite MHEG5 plastered on the box.


  • #29
    watty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,451 ✭✭✭✭watty


    Hannspree are a cheap Monitor maker. I'd avoid.


  • #30
    dmm1000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭dmm1000


    byte wrote: »
    Does anyone know if the 32" Hannspree works with the Digital Aertel? I ask, because the 28" models didn't work, despite MHEG5 plastered on the box.

    I believe that model Hannspree ST321MNB is compatible with saorview including MHEG5 unlike the similarly named model Hannspree ST321MBB


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  • #31
    funnyname
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,815 ✭✭✭funnyname


    STB wrote: »
    LG 32LD450 €299
    http://www.powercity.ie/?par=10-12-32LD45&pages=1&prod=32LD45&brands=LG&image=

    Cheers STB

    Doesn't seem to be available at powercity anymore, anyone know if it's a available for a similar price at an Irish outlet?


  • #32
    Badgermonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,019 ✭✭✭Badgermonkey


    funnyname wrote: »
    Cheers STB

    Doesn't seem to be available at powercity anymore, anyone know if it's a available for a similar price at an Irish outlet?

    Currys were doing it sub €300, gone now from their terrible website.

    May be worth telling Declan you're interested over on the Currys forum.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1333


  • #33
    funnyname
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,815 ✭✭✭funnyname


    Badgermonkey wrote: »
    Currys were doing it sub €300, gone now from their terrible website.

    May be worth telling Declan you're interested over on the Currys forum.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1333

    Thanks


  • #34
    Stewy18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭Stewy18


    hi guys,
    wondering if you think mpeg 5 is worth having?

    thinking might get a uk version tv and get the combo box of freesat and mpeg 4 as below:

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-LE32.../dp/B004S5ZV2K
    http://www.satellite.ie/acatalog/Fre...rguson120Combo

    does the uk model of samsung LE32D550 can receive irish digital???
    can anyone confirm please


  • #35
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,978 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Stewy18 wrote: »
    does the uk model of samsung LE32D550 can receive irish digital???
    can anyone confirm please

    Yes, it's a Saorview approved product so it can do MHEG-5 too.

    http://www.saorview.ie/products-retailers/saorview-approved-product-listings/samsung/


  • #36
    Stewy18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭Stewy18


    The Cush wrote: »
    Yes, it's a Saorview approved product so it can MHEG-5 too.

    http://www.saorview.ie/products-retailers/saorview-approved-product-listings/samsung/


    thanks,
    I thought soarview is only for Irish models only....

    many thanks.....


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  • #37
    JCB1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 182 ✭✭JCB1


    Can anyone tell me if the Samsung LE32D450ZF is saorview approved ?
    http://www.pixmania.ie/ie/uk/9578167/art/samsung/le32d450zf-lcd-television.html
    Saorview website (http://www.saorview.ie/products-retailers/saorview-approved-product-listings/samsung/) lists LE32D450 as being approved, would it follow that LE32D450ZF (and any other variation of LE32D450
    ) is approved ? Thanks


  • #38
    JCB1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 182 ✭✭JCB1


    Can anyone point me to an answer on above ?


  • #39
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,978 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    JCB1 wrote: »
    Can anyone point me to an answer on above ?

    I would think so. All Samsung models have MPEG-4 decoders I believe. You could email Samsung to confirm 100%.


  • #40
    ffocused
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,236 ✭✭✭ffocused


    I picked up a Panasonic TX-L22X20L IN Currys Liffey Valley a few days ago for €200 (reduced from €300) It picks up all the channels & has full epg but no mheg5 on board according to manual.
    I am very happy with it at that price.


  • #41
    U2sir
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36 ✭U2sir


    Anyone have the new Panasonic TX-P46GT30B twin tuner tv - or 42 or 50 inch version.
    I was thinking about buying one of these but Panasonics statement below on the MHEG5 service does not give one much confidence.

    http://www.panasonic.co.uk/html/en_GB/Support/Product+FAQs/3580816/index.html

    Is it possible to receive the digital text transmitted with Saorview?
    The 2011 models of Panasonic televisions are equipped with MHEG5 decoders enabling functionality with most digital teletext services transmitted with Saorview.

    Panasonic 2011 models are not Saorview certified concerning the complete range of digital services offered. However they are equipped with MHEG5 decoders which will allow support of most of the Saorview digital services.

    Please bear in mind that functionality and services are constantly being updated and that Panasonic cannot guarantee complete compatibility with future releases of the digital text services.

    Unfortunately, Panasonic televisions made in or before 2010 do not have MHEG5 compatible tuners and this means that they will not receive the digital text transmitted with Saorview. Instead, they receive EBU (analogue teletext).


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  • #42
    STB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    U2sir wrote: »
    Anyone have the new Panasonic TX-P46GT30B twin tuner tv - or 42 or 50 inch version.
    I was thinking about buying one of these but Panasonics statement below on the MHEG5 service does not give one much confidence.

    http://www.panasonic.co.uk/html/en_GB/Support/Product+FAQs/3580816/index.html

    Is it possible to receive the digital text transmitted with Saorview?
    The 2011 models of Panasonic televisions are equipped with MHEG5 decoders enabling functionality with most digital teletext services transmitted with Saorview.

    Panasonic 2011 models are not Saorview certified concerning the complete range of digital services offered. However they are equipped with MHEG5 decoders which will allow support of most of the Saorview digital services.

    Please bear in mind that functionality and services are constantly being updated and that Panasonic cannot guarantee complete compatibility with future releases of the digital text services.

    Unfortunately, Panasonic televisions made in or before 2010 do not have MHEG5 compatible tuners and this means that they will not receive the digital text transmitted with Saorview. Instead, they receive EBU (analogue teletext).

    Well the BASIC spec for Saorview hasn't changed since it was published in February 2008, Panasonic.

    MHEG5 compatible tuners !!! Lovely. Its fecking software Panasonic and NOTHING to do with the tuner module. EBU Teletext ???? What the hell has that to do with the WRONG middleware being loaded onto their so called "Irish models" in the "L" range.

    An 8 year old could have written that better.

    By the way the Samsung 32" CERTIFIED TVs are being sold for €299 right now.


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