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Do protestors have jobs?

  • 05-10-2011 09:29PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 478 ✭✭


    Other than protesting about things? I would love to take off and shout slogans, ok that was a lie, but I would love to skive off work except I'd have no money. However the obstacle I can't overcome is the job bit, no matter how much I try to persuade my boss that it is imperative for me to go and live in a yurt.

    So again, do protestors who seem to appear at every available protest and campaign for every perceived wrong have jobs? If they have jobs then I want the ones they have got and if they haven't got jobs then are they claiming social welfare? If they are claiming social welfare shouldn't they be showing that they are actively seeking employment? If they are actively seeking employment then how come they are off chanting slogans and living in yurts for weeks, months and years? If they are not actively seeking employment shouldn't they be the very people that the social welfare system targets for benefit fraud? If you protest against every facet of the system isn't it then somehow hypocritical and wrong that you take money from the coffers of the system?

    Just wondering like.......................


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Arent all the protests these days about not enough jobs?


    That or student fees and you can put your bottom dollar on it that lazy students dont work!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,633 ✭✭✭Feeona


    joela wrote: »
    Other than protesting about things? I would love to take off and shout slogans, ok that was a lie, but I would love to skive off work except I'd have no money. However the obstacle I can't overcome is the job bit, no matter how much I try to persuade my boss that it is imperative for me to go and live in a yurt.

    So again, do protestors who seem to appear at every available protest and campaign for every perceived wrong have jobs? If they have jobs then I want the ones they have got and if they haven't got jobs then are they claiming social welfare? If they are claiming social welfare shouldn't they be showing that they are actively seeking employment? If they are actively seeking employment then how come they are off chanting slogans and living in yurts for weeks, months and years? If they are not actively seeking employment shouldn't they be the very people that the social welfare system targets for benefit fraud? If you protest against every facet of the system isn't it then somehow hypocritical and wrong that you take money from the coffers of the system?

    Well fix it dear Henry, dear Henry, dear Henry :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    If they had jobs they would not have time for protesting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 855 ✭✭✭joshrogan


    They can do it every day except Thursday, that's dole day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    Ask them all and then report back here with your findings.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭Guill


    Protesting is a full time job.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,915 ✭✭✭MungBean


    You sure ya dont mean activists ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,968 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Maura Harrington of Shell to Sea is a retired school principal for an example OP
    Lots of time free for protesting

    Her hunger strike didn't finish her off anyway


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 496 ✭✭Teclo


    MungBean wrote: »
    You sure ya dont mean activists ?

    But are they in any way active when they're not protesting?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    MungBean wrote: »
    You sure ya dont mean activists ?

    Some of them are active, causing trouble and protesting about stuff they know nothing about.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 478 ✭✭joela


    I'd like to ask them but yurts don't have addresses!

    Maura Harrington is slightly different than the average bear (protestor) boo boo. Was she on hunger strike? That whole Shell to Sea thing has gotten beyond confusing at this stage, who's side am I meant to be on again?

    @Feeona not sure how I can fix it, give up my job, go on the dole and go protesting?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 478 ✭✭joela


    Guill wrote: »
    Protesting is a full time job.

    Paid or unpaid? Maybe you the government job bridge protesting and I could intern for dole + €50/week?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,384 ✭✭✭Duffy the Vampire Slayer


    I've been involved in a lot of protests and most of the people I've associated with during them do indeed work, as well as study. But don't let this ruin your image of the unemployed layabouts protesting which clearly fits your world view so well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,915 ✭✭✭MungBean


    Teclo wrote: »
    But are they in any way active when they're not protesting?

    Vast majority of protesters are people who come out on the day. Plenty of them who have jobs. Plenty of protests are organised by workers unions. So why do people link protesters with unemployment ?

    Activists on the other hand are professional protesters and go from one thing to the next to create trouble.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 478 ✭✭joela


    MungBean wrote: »
    Vast majority of protesters are people who come out on the day. Plenty of them who have jobs. Plenty of protests are organised by workers unions. So why do people link protesters with unemployment ?

    Activists on the other hand are professional protesters and go from one thing to the next to create trouble.

    Ok I guess I meant professional protestors as opposed to people who march for particular causes on occasion but live and work like the rest of the population otherwise.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    MungBean wrote: »
    Vast majority of protesters are people who come out on the day. Plenty of them who have jobs. Plenty of protests are organised by workers unions. So why do people link protesters with unemployment ?

    Activists on the other hand are professional protesters and go from one thing to the next to create trouble.

    The op might not have been clear on what he was talking about, I think he meant Activists.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 203 ✭✭Oddjob


    joela wrote: »
    Ok I guess I meant professional protestors as opposed to people who march for particular causes on occasion but live and work like the rest of the population otherwise.

    No, they're generally wasters who will protest about any old bollocks.

    Like Richard Boyd Barrett.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 478 ✭✭joela


    I've been involved in a lot of protests and most of the people I've associated with during them do indeed work, as well as study. But don't let this ruin your image of the unemployed layabouts protesting which clearly fits your world view so well.


    Where did I say that? I asked do the people who seem to protest at the drop of a hat have jobs. I have protested myself a couple of times but usually if the protest is on a day I am not working as it would be difficult to get so much time off so hence my question.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,915 ✭✭✭MungBean


    joela wrote: »
    Ok I guess I meant professional protestors as opposed to people who march for particular causes on occasion but live and work like the rest of the population otherwise.

    So your talking about activist groups then. I'd imagine the majority of people involved in those groups are unemployed alright. And I'd agree it is quite hypocritical to spend your time fighting the man yet ever Friday lining up for the weekly payout that they might not need if they spent their time trying to find employment instead of creating trouble.

    But they will occasionally release a youtube clip or smear some mud on a chipper bag and proclaim themselves artists too. Is struggling artist a job?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 478 ✭✭joela


    MungBean wrote: »
    So your talking about activist groups then. I'd imagine the majority of people involved in those groups are unemployed alright. And I'd agree it is quite hypocritical to spend your time fighting the man yet ever Friday lining up for the weekly payout that they might not need if they spent their time trying to find employment instead of creating trouble.

    But they will occasionally release a youtube clip or smear some mud on a chipper bag and proclaim themselves artists too. Is struggling artist a job?

    I guess struggling artist could be actively seeking work though inspiration by protesting?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    MungBean wrote: »

    But they will occasionally release a youtube clip or smear some mud on a chipper bag and proclaim themselves artists too. Is struggling artist a job?

    :D:D LOL very good.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,081 ✭✭✭LeixlipRed


    Do idiots have jobs?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    LeixlipRed wrote: »
    Do idiots have jobs?

    Yes just go into a Dunnes anywhere!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,147 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    LeixlipRed wrote: »
    Do idiots have jobs?

    Is there a point to your question?

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭techyjon


    I know one guy who doesn't work who spends his life posting socialist links on facebook, attending meetings & protesting. Alot of these university graduates are full of their own importance and think that they are helping society when in fact they are just a nuisance and a parasite.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,513 ✭✭✭donalg1


    They only protest cause they got nothing better to do, gives em a sense of purpose if they were employable they wouldn't bother with protest they'd go to work instead


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,147 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    joela wrote: »
    Other than protesting about things? I would love to take off and shout slogans, ok that was a lie, but I would love to skive off work except I'd have no money. However the obstacle I can't overcome is the job bit, no matter how much I try to persuade my boss that it is imperative for me to go and live in a yurt.

    So again, do protestors who seem to appear at every available protest and campaign for every perceived wrong have jobs? If they have jobs then I want the ones they have got and if they haven't got jobs then are they claiming social welfare? If they are claiming social welfare shouldn't they be showing that they are actively seeking employment? If they are actively seeking employment then how come they are off chanting slogans and living in yurts for weeks, months and years? If they are not actively seeking employment shouldn't they be the very people that the social welfare system targets for benefit fraud? If you protest against every facet of the system isn't it then somehow hypocritical and wrong that you take money from the coffers of the system?

    Just wondering like.......................

    You mean people like Rosa Parks?

    Lech Walesa

    Mohamed Ali

    Ceasr Chazez

    John Hume

    and all of these

    http://www.topyaps.com/top-10-famous-protests/

    Why does it matter to you if people who wish to change the staus quo are in employmrnt or not?

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,147 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    techyjon wrote: »
    I know one guy who doesn't work who spends his life posting socialist links on facebook, attending meetings & protesting. Alot of these university graduates are full of their own importance and think that they are helping society when in fact they are just a nuisance and a parasite.

    Nothing like our politicians and corrupt financial system then.

    Socialist links on Facebook? Obviously he should be in jail. :rolleyes:

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,915 ✭✭✭MungBean


    techyjon wrote: »
    I know one guy who doesn't work who spends his life posting socialist links on facebook, attending meetings & protesting. Alot of these university graduates are full of their own importance and think that they are helping society when in fact they are just a nuisance and a parasite.

    And I know one guy who owns a business and he's sole purpose in life is to make as much money as possible buy charging as much as possible for the product while paying the workers as little as possible to do the work.

    Some people think they are entrepreneurs when all the are are greedy self serving slave drivers. If those workers did nothing and said nothing they would eventually be working for nothing.

    Point being. Sometimes people have to make a stand to protect their interests as human beings. Protesters are only a nuisances to those who cannot benefit from what they are doing.

    Some people take it too far and turn it into a chance to try and achieve whatever they are after with violence and by creating anarchy. But most people who take part in peaceful protests are just trying to effect change the only way that they can. And posting socialist links, attending meetings and protests is hardly enough to call someone a parasite.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    I had to laugh at one of the Dale Farm protesters who while giving an interview referred to his occupation as 'Professional Activist'.


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