Realistically how much can you do in 2 weeks?

Gavin "shels" · 14-11-2011 05:24PM #1

Cutting to the chase, realistically how much bodyfat % could you cut in 2 weeks? Long story short, college student who works most nights after college, and most weekends so time for fitness is null, although I hope to get back to the gym for 2 weeks in Janaury while off college and after my exams. Basically I'm looking to cut as much bf % and tone up as possible in 2 weeks to stop my advancing beer gut!

Would 2 weeks of solid training, while cutting out all the crap food and drink do much? Or would it take a longer time period?

blah88 · 14-11-2011 05:35PM

You can actually lose a fair amount of fat in two weeks with the right approach. Google Lyle McDonald's Rapid Fat Loss Diet. You can find free downloads of it if you look. Just follow that to a tee. It's depressing but it's safer and more effective than any other crash diets and cardio isn't even a requirement.

Kadongy · 14-11-2011 05:53PM

Your plan is to ignore your health until two weeks in January when you want to suddenly diet and exercise to lose fat...??

Better plan is to eat better now. Also you could do short bodyweight exercises in your home that would not take up much time but still be reasonably effective. There is a psychological advantage to bodyweight exercises over weight training if you are aiming to lose fat - the lighter you get the easier they are.

If you eat lots of vegetables and minimal refined carbohydrate you will probably significantly reduce your calorie intake without directly trying to. High protein intake noticeably decreases your appetite also. Drink plenty of water and dont skip meals or have tiny ones because you'll probably be inclined to gorge when you eat next.

I know I didn't answer your question. I disagree with the basic idea you are describing. Rapid weight loss is for people preparing for a competition or event of some kind - not a way of putting off taking responsibility for your own health.

Gavin "shels" · 14-11-2011 06:15PM

Kadongy wrote: »

Your plan is to ignore your health until two weeks in January when you want to suddenly diet and exercise to lose fat...??

Better plan is to eat better now. Also you could do short bodyweight exercises in your home that would not take up much time but still be reasonably effective. There is a psychological advantage to bodyweight exercises over weight training if you are aiming to lose fat - the lighter you get the easier they are.

If you eat lots of vegetables and minimal refined carbohydrate you will probably significantly reduce your calorie intake without directly trying to. High protein intake noticeably decreases your appetite also. Drink plenty of water and dont skip meals or have tiny ones because you'll probably be inclined to gorge when you eat next.

I know I didn't answer your question. I disagree with the basic idea you are describing. Rapid weight loss is for people preparing for a competition or event of some kind - not a way of putting off taking responsibility for your own health.

Think I worded my post badly. I'm not ignoring my health at all, I try to eat as healthy as possible and do bodyweight exercises and skipping at home to keep me going. It's that I want to go on say a "spring clean" for the 2 weeks I have free, no 24 hours of college a week, no 20+ hours of work a week, no projects, no continous assessments, no commuting nearly 2 hours a day, etc... 2 weeks of solid work, keep ticking over then through the few months of college, and then back to the gym in the summer.

I eat decent enough (could be well improved, but time is always a pain), 4 meals a day, plenty of water, never skip meals.

Mack_1111 · 14-11-2011 08:59PM

One pound of body fat is about 3500 calories and has the same mass as a pound of butter. If you created a deficit of 500 cals a day, through diet or training or both, for two weeks you'd loose two pounds. If that doesn't sound like a lot then look two pounds of butter and think again. If you push it too much you'll prob end up loosing water, glycogen or dare we say it muscle!

Mellor · 15-11-2011 12:49AM

blah88 wrote: »

You can actually lose a fair amount of fat in two weeks with the right approach. Google Lyle McDonald's Rapid Fat Loss Diet. You can find free downloads of it if you look. Just follow that to a tee. It's depressing but it's safer and more effective than any other crash diets and cardio isn't even a requirement.

Lyle repeatedly explaisn that the weight lost on crash diets like his RFLD isn't all fat loss. In fat most of it isn't tbh.

Gavin "shels" · 15-11-2011 12:57AM

Cheers for the replies so far.

Have a rough idea of what I'm going to do, going to actually join the gym in December for 3 months, with just over 2 weeks of that being solid workouts and a clean diet.

Looking at say getting up at 10am, breakfast (porridge, litre of milk, fruit), short jog/cycle, rest, lunch (chicken/turkey/egg based, banana, litre of water), gym, rest, dinner (chicken, veg or something similar, litre+ of milk), rest, weight training/chin ups, snack (homemade protein bar, piece of fruit, litre of water). Obviously a lot more water intake during my jogs, gym and weights, would this be too intense or could it work?

Mellor · 15-11-2011 01:04AM

Two things jump out.

You won't be able to work out 3 times a day. Not effectively.
If you are tryign to lose weight, why are you drinking 2 litres of milk a day. Thats pretty silly.

Gavin "shels" · 15-11-2011 01:41AM

Mellor wrote: »

Two things jump out.

You won't be able to work out 3 times a day. Not effectively.
If you are tryign to lose weight, why are you drinking 2 litres of milk a day. Thats pretty silly.

Cheers.

Well 3 times a day would only be the days I wouldn't be working, so 2/3 days a week, the other 4/5 days would be just trips to the gym.

Not trying to lose weight, trying to lose bodyfat % while toning up, I generally drink 2-3 litres of Supermilk a day and couldn't see me being able to stop that, love my milk.

Mellor · 15-11-2011 02:02AM

Gavin shels wrote: »

Cheers.

Well 3 times a day would only be the days I wouldn't be working, so 2/3 days a week, the other 4/5 days would be just trips to the gym.

Not trying to lose weight, trying to lose bodyfat % while toning up, I generally drink 2-3 litres of Supermilk a day and couldn't see me being able to stop that, love my milk.

Dropping body fat or toning up is losing weight.
You might want to replace it with equal muscle at some stage, but the process is still losing weight. To lose body fat, you need to eat less calories than you burn. 3 litres of milk is not going to help you do this, in fact it would help you put on weight.

3 litres of super milk is 1920 calories. That's most of your daily needs.
Or to break it down, 105g fat, 99g protein and 150g sugar

To put perspective on that;
4 big macs total 1960 calories. 107g fat, 100g protein and 140g carbs (but 22 from sugar).

From a nutritional point of view, the 3 lites of supermilk and 4 bigmacs are very similar.

marathonic · 15-11-2011 08:19AM

Mellor wrote: »

From a nutritional point of view, the 3 lites of supermilk and 4 bigmacs are very similar.

Do you mean to say that, if I want to lose weight, I shouldn't add four daily big macs to my diet???

Kadongy · 15-11-2011 09:06AM

Might be worth pointing out those figures are for full fat super milk - because you might assume it was low fat super milk - personally I hadnt even realised they made full fat super milk now.

I agree that consuming that much milk is counter-productive to weight loss - whether it is whole or low fat. I'd also say that if you are consuming that much you'd be better off sticking with non-fortified milk. 3 litres of super milk contains 630% of your calcium requirement and 450% of your rda for vitamin A. This is not good. Calcium competes with zinc and iron for absorption - consuming very large amounts of it can contribute to deficiencies in one or both of these. Vitamin A is highly toxic if you consume too much.

Mr. Incognito · 15-11-2011 09:59AM

If you want to lose weight there is only one thing for it.

Put on runners and hit the road.

Run every day and increase the distance.

It is amazing how much weight falls off but you need to eat wisely aswell.

I'd cut out all the milk myself or turn pint glasses into small glasses and it will cut out 2/3rds of the milk intake

Brian? · 15-11-2011 11:18AM

Kadongy wrote: »

Might be worth pointing out those figures are for full fat super milk - because you might assume it was low fat super milk - personally I hadnt even realised they made full fat super milk now.

It's not full fat milk though in fairness. Calling whole milk, which is 3.5% fat, "full fat milk" is extremely misleading.

Nit picking a bit there.

Anyway to the OP, cut out most of the milk. Whole or low fat it's a serious amount of calories, a calorie deficit is the only way you'll burn fat.

BlueIsland · 15-11-2011 11:21AM

Being completly honest your post reeks of a person who has decided that these 2 weeks may save a few months of not training/eating correctly. You are making excuses in all your posts e.g I have no time, I cant give up milk etc etc! I think you need to ditch this two week idea, read the stickies on nutrition and start from tomorow creating a healthier you! 2 weeks is NOTHING in the scheme of things!

Hanley · 15-11-2011 11:31AM

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

If you want to lose weight there is only one thing for it.

Put on runners and hit the road.

Run every day and increase the distance.

Yah... super way to cause injury too.

And it's not the only way. And to be honest, it's probably one of the worst ways!!

Diet is number 1, and exercise comes after.

Mellor · 15-11-2011 11:56AM

Kadongy wrote: »

Might be worth pointing out those figures are for full fat super milk - because you might assume it was low fat super milk - personally I hadnt even realised they made full fat super milk now.

That's true, low fat it still significant in terms of cals though. 1260 for 3 litres
Also, whole milk would be the default for most people.

Jarren · 15-11-2011 08:08PM

Yes

It is possible to lose 4-7 pounds of fat in 2 weeks

The diet is the key though,exercise can help but only with a proper diet!!!

Have a look at the doc attached ,follow it to the letter and report back in 2 weeks

Good Luck:)

Gavin "shels" · 16-11-2011 01:40AM

BlueIsland wrote: »

Being completly honest your post reeks of a person who has decided that these 2 weeks may save a few months of not training/eating correctly. You are making excuses in all your posts e.g I have no time, I cant give up milk etc etc! I think you need to ditch this two week idea, read the stickies on nutrition and start from tomorow creating a healthier you! 2 weeks is NOTHING in the scheme of things!

I must say that's a very arrogant post. Unfortunately I have no time, unless you have some miracle idea or plan to add more than 24 hours into a day? I'll do today for example, up at 8.15am, showered, breakfast, walk to Luas, Luas to college, college from 10am to 3pm, Luas home, home by 4pm, quick 30 min nap, cook dinner, relax and some college study, go to work at 6.20pm, get home at 10.20pm, relax for a few minutes, bite to eat, study for Continueous Assessment at 10am tomorrow. Now it's 1.35am, and I'm still doing a small bit of study for my exam in the morning. Up in 6 hours and repeat the day again with the extra hour added in for an early morning class. This was the same routine yesterday, and will be tomorrow, Thursdays are different, home from college by 6pm so will be going for a jog, then working all weekend, studying and doing college projects.

Now where are the excuses? Oh no sh*t I'm actually geniune, I'll happily quit my job if you can somehow manage to get the Government to give me free money in the form of grants but that's never going to happen, maybe sit my 3rd year (possibly last year) exams in Janaury and May, do my CA's everyweek? :rolleyes:

jarecki1976 wrote: »

Yes

It is possible to lose 4-7 pounds of fat in 2 weeks

The diet is the key though,exercise can help but only with a proper diet!!!

Have a look at the doc attached ,follow it to the letter and report back in 2 weeks

Good Luck:)

Cheers, 93 pages of bed time reading to sort me out with from Thursday night.:D

Duck's hoop · 16-11-2011 06:53AM

The whole 'going to college' thing has changed dramatically since my day it seems.

No booze, women and arsing about? Where's the fun in that? Also lectures 10-3? Appalling;)

BlueIsland · 16-11-2011 10:27AM

Gavin shels wrote: »

I must say that's a very arrogant post. Unfortunately I have no time, unless you have some miracle idea or plan to add more than 24 hours into a day? I'll do today for example, up at 8.15am, showered, breakfast, walk to Luas, Luas to college, college from 10am to 3pm, Luas home, home by 4pm, quick 30 min nap, cook dinner, relax and some college study, go to work at 6.20pm, get home at 10.20pm, relax for a few minutes, bite to eat, study for Continueous Assessment at 10am tomorrow. Now it's 1.35am, and I'm still doing a small bit of study for my exam in the morning. Up in 6 hours and repeat the day again with the extra hour added in for an early morning class. This was the same routine yesterday, and will be tomorrow, Thursdays are different, home from college by 6pm so will be going for a jog, then working all weekend, studying and doing college projects.

Now where are the excuses? Oh no sh*t I'm actually geniune, I'll happily quit my job if you can somehow manage to get the Government to give me free money in the form of grants but that's never going to happen, maybe sit my 3rd year (possibly last year) exams in Janaury and May, do my CA's everyweek? :rolleyes:

Cheers, 93 pages of bed time reading to sort me out with from Thursday night.:D

Being told something you didnt want to hear is not arrogance, its honesty! You would be going well not to find a person who has commitments, work etc is all I am saying.You get up at 8.15. example....If you got up at 7.30 three times a week and did bodyweight circuits or something you would well be on your way you being fitter! My argument is that unless you are the single busiest person of all time there is ALWAYS time...30 minutes 3-4 times a week. Fit it in. make sacrafices of some form and you wont need to put all your eggs into the 2 week basket!

Hanley · 16-11-2011 10:58AM

You'll get very little sympathy on here when it comes to time tbh...

I work full time, have been studying part time for the best part of 3 years after finishing 4 years in college, have to try fit my own training in, socialising, a girlfriend AND coaching too. And still find time to work on another project.

I get up most days at 7.30am and don't get til bed til 12am, at the earliest. It's tough, but it's also just the way it is. No point complaining or worrying.

To answer your question (I'm not actually sure if anyone has yet?), you won't notice much of a physical change in 2 weeks (I find it takes 5-7 days for fat loss to typically start), BUT you can start the fat loss process pretty well, form good habits and hope to continue from there. The fat loss is almost all going to come down to diet, so assuming you have time to eat, you have time to do that. It might require some planning, but it's often easier and cheaper to eat well so you've really no excuse in that regard!!

Oh, and if you've time to be hungover, you've time to train

howtomake · 16-11-2011 01:35PM

Ugh, don't remind me of the full time college & full time work thing, did it for 4 years, you peeps have my full respect.

Last Xmas, I did a 14 day fatloss program too. It's all about diet & I did some serious crossfit style WOD. Managed to lose an average of 1.5 inches. However, it took a lot of planning my food for those 2 weeks & and you say you don't have time.

It is actually much easier to make small adjustments (the right ones for you of course) on a long term basis, an extra 30 minutes here & there for food prep and planning some time for exercise goes a long way. Not to mention if you can find something that you truly enjoy you get the extra benefit of stress relief and more energy for your busy hectic day to day life. Its hard to imagine until it actually starts paying off.

MegaWattKungFu · 16-11-2011 08:11PM

Mellor wrote: »

That's true, low fat it still significant in terms of cals though. 1260 for 3 litres
Also, whole milk would be the default for most people.

Well the whole supermilk is actually newer so I doubt it is the default for anyone used to supermilk. Your post is a bit misleading. I went and checked the stats for myself because I knew your post was wrong (should have just read ahead!).

Three litres of the red supermilk is 1260 calories. The OP said he drinks 2-3 litres of the stuff which is 840-1260 calories a day. Depending on the OP's height and his other eating habits it could be plausible to have that and lose weight.

What height and weight are you OP?

Oh and the 2 weeks of exercise seems a bit silly. If you really want to cut bf then just change your diet.

I could do with some milk now!

jmvane15 · 16-11-2011 08:27PM

I'm sure that you could lose a lot, you just have to go crazy with working out, and eat really healthy.

G86 · 16-11-2011 08:44PM

It's do-able. I lost 3kg in around 2 weeks when I came home from abroad and maintained it. Cleaned up my diet - i.e. Got the carbs down, and did 5 conditioning sessions a week. It's not difficult if you really want to do it, just sort out your diet and train hard. Only thing is, it's just going to go right back on if you don't at least keep your kcals within maintenance after the two weeks are over.

I did the college/work thing for years and I know how hard it is to find time, trust me. I'd say just focus on your diet and put together some home conditioning work outs that you can do whenever you have a spare hour.

Oh and listen to everyone about the milk, that's just mental if you're trying to diet.

Mellor · 17-11-2011 12:47AM

MegaWattKungFu wrote: »

Well the whole supermilk is actually newer so I doubt it is the default for anyone used to supermilk. Your post is a bit misleading. I went and checked the stats for myself because I knew your post was wrong (should have just read ahead!).

Three litres of the red supermilk is 1260 calories. The OP said he drinks 2-3 litres of the stuff which is 840-1260 calories a day. Depending on the OP's height and his other eating habits it could be plausible to have that and lose weight.

What height and weight are you OP?

Oh and the 2 weeks of exercise seems a bit silly. If you really want to cut bf then just change your diet.

I could do with some milk now!

I was pointing out that the calories in milk were very high. I never specificed lowfat, nor did the OP.
So my post wasn't wrong, in any shape or form. I said whole milk was the default in relation to all milk, not just supermilk, which is also true.

I never said it was impossible to lose weight drinking much milk. I was pointing out that its a terrible idea. It's plausible to eat twinkies all day and lose weight, its just not a good way to approach it. Reducing his calories from milk intake vastly increases his chances of improvment.

Basically, you pretty much missed the point at every opportunity.

Gavin "shels" · 17-11-2011 01:19AM

Duck's hoop wrote: »

The whole 'going to college' thing has changed dramatically since my day it seems.

No booze, women and arsing about? Where's the fun in that? Also lectures 10-3? Appalling;)

You obviously done an Arts Degree or Art in college? Some of us actually do real courses.:D

BlueIsland wrote: »

Being told something you didnt want to hear is not arrogance, its honesty! You would be going well not to find a person who has commitments, work etc is all I am saying.You get up at 8.15. example....If you got up at 7.30 three times a week and did bodyweight circuits or something you would well be on your way you being fitter! My argument is that unless you are the single busiest person of all time there is ALWAYS time...30 minutes 3-4 times a week. Fit it in. make sacrafices of some form and you wont need to put all your eggs into the 2 week basket!

Noted, going to start off as of tomorrow on doing a 20 min jog down the canal, few weights, few chin ups and some skipping to get me back into some routine. Then start improving diet as of Monday (shopping day is Sunday), and go from there.

Thanks for the reply, suppose there is an element of "excuses" on my part which I suppose it just laziness.

Hanley wrote: »

To answer your question (I'm not actually sure if anyone has yet?), you won't notice much of a physical change in 2 weeks (I find it takes 5-7 days for fat loss to typically start), BUT you can start the fat loss process pretty well, form good habits and hope to continue from there. The fat loss is almost all going to come down to diet, so assuming you have time to eat, you have time to do that. It might require some planning, but it's often easier and cheaper to eat well so you've really no excuse in that regard!!

Oh, and if you've time to be hungover, you've time to train

Cool, cheers for the reply.

Only time I've time to be hungover is in work on Sundays.:D

MegaWattKungFu wrote: »

What height and weight are you OP?

5ft 9" or thereabouts, etching towards 11 stone at a guess.

G86 · 17-11-2011 03:32PM

Gavin shels wrote: »

5ft 9" or thereabouts, etching towards 11 stone at a guess.

11 stone T 5'9'? And you want to lose weight?!

I take back what I said about the milk and cond work - EAT MORE, LIFT MORE!:D

Well unless you have an abs obsession, in which case stick with the original plan.

MegaWattKungFu · 17-11-2011 09:20PM

Mellor wrote: »

I was pointing out that the calories in milk were very high. I never specificed lowfat, nor did the OP.
So my post wasn't wrong, in any shape or form. I said whole milk was the default in relation to all milk, not just supermilk, which is also true.

I never said it was impossible to lose weight drinking much milk. I was pointing out that its a terrible idea. It's plausible to eat twinkies all day and lose weight, its just not a good way to approach it. Reducing his calories from milk intake vastly increases his chances of improvment.

Basically, you pretty much missed the point at every opportunity.

"3 litres of super milk is 1920 calories."

There are two types of supermilk so this statement can be misleading.

I haven't missed your point.

With regards to the twinkies comment, maybe the OP could look into that.

Mellor · 18-11-2011 04:05AM

I've no idea which he drinks and its isn't important. You obviously can't grasp that.
Neither whole milk nor low fat milk in large quantites is conducive to weightloss. Why are you even arguing this?
He's 11 stone, so his maintainance is low enough. Weight loss is mostly about calories in vrs out. Even with low fat milk, 2.5 litres is 1000 cals. Thats never going to help.

You said;
"it could be plausible to have [2-3 litres of low fat milk] and lose weight"
I was refering exactly to that twinkie example to point out how that being plausible to lose weight and being a good idea are two different things. That study makes your point look bad, not mine.

Drinking lots of milk, whole or low fat, will inhibit weight loss unless he eats less food. Since nobody actually does this. its best to avoid milk.
There is a reason one of the mroe popular plans for gaining weight is to drink 4 litres of milk a day.

Clooney George · 18-11-2011 04:32AM

You can really lose a lot of fat two weeks the right approach. Google Lyle McDonald Rapid Fat Loss Diet. You can find free downloads of your questions. Just follow the tea. And 'depressing, but it is safer and more effective than any crash diets, and the heart is not even required.

MegaWattKungFu · 18-11-2011 10:37AM

Mellor wrote: »

I've no idea which he drinks and its isn't important. You obviously can't grasp that.
Neither whole milk nor low fat milk in large quantites is conducive to weightloss. Why are you even arguing this?
He's 11 stone, so his maintainance is low enough. Weight loss is mostly about calories in vrs out. Even with low fat milk, 2.5 litres is 1000 cals. Thats never going to help.

You said;
"it could be plausible to have [2-3 litres of low fat milk] and lose weight"
I was refering exactly to that twinkie example to point out how that being plausible to lose weight and being a good idea are two different things. That study makes your point look bad, not mine.

Drinking lots of milk, whole or low fat, will inhibit weight loss unless he eats less food. Since nobody actually does this. its best to avoid milk.
There is a reason one of the mroe popular plans for gaining weight is to drink 4 litres of milk a day.

Why are you trying to say I don't understand what you're saying? I do. We're both saying losing weight is all about calories. You're recommending that he gives up milk and I am saying he doesn't necessarily have to. Actually, I thought that the OP did specify that it was low-fat supermilk. So if it's whole supermilk, I'd recommend the low-fat version.

"The OP said he drinks 2-3 litres of the stuff which is 840-1260 calories a day. Depending on the OP's height and his other eating habits it could be plausible to have that and lose weight."

"Drinking lots of milk, whole or low fat, will inhibit weight loss unless he eats less food."

GOMAD is based on whole milk. That's 2400kcal in milk and it also wants you to eat more than that on top of it.

And the Twinkie report (I added that as a joke btw) concludes that it is probably a bad idea but the subject was healthier after it than before.

EDIT: The OP probably doesn't care this much about the milk topic so PM me if you want to reply to this.

18-11-2011 11:05AM

Hanley wrote: »

Yah... super way to cause injury too.

And it's not the only way. And to be honest, it's probably one of the worst ways!!

Diet is number 1, and exercise comes after.

Running is one of the worst ways to lose weight? I've lost 4 kilos in last week just from running 70 km.

Zamboni · 18-11-2011 11:16AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Running is one of the worst ways to lose weight? I've lost 4 kilos in last week just from running 70 km.

The point. You've missed it.

BlueIsland · 18-11-2011 11:18AM

"Running is one of the worst ways to lose weight? I've lost 4 kilos in last week just from running 70 km"

you lost weight. you didnt loose bodyfat!There is a difference!and it will show in the way you look if you continue loosing weight solely by running!

G86 · 18-11-2011 11:56AM

Running is one of the worst ways to lose weight? I've lost 4 kilos in last week just from running 70 km.

I could hop up and down on the spot for 2hours a day and go on a cabbage soup diet, and I'd lose weight too. Oh and probably wreck my knees and develop an eating disorder.

Just because something works doesn't mean it's the best method.

Antisocialiser · 18-11-2011 12:13PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Running is one of the worst ways to lose weight? I've lost 4 kilos in last week just from running 70 km.

NiCiarain · 18-11-2011 12:31PM

Why is running one of the worst ways to loose weight (and bodyfat)?

18-11-2011 01:20PM

Mellor wrote: »

I've no idea which he drinks and its isn't important. You obviously can't grasp that.
Neither whole milk nor low fat milk in large quantites is conducive to weightloss. Why are you even arguing this?
He's 11 stone, so his maintainance is low enough. Weight loss is mostly about calories in vrs out. Even with low fat milk, 2.5 litres is 1000 cals. Thats never going to help.

You said;
"it could be plausible to have [2-3 litres of low fat milk] and lose weight"
I was refering exactly to that twinkie example to point out how that being plausible to lose weight and being a good idea are two different things. That study makes your point look bad, not mine.

Drinking lots of milk, whole or low fat, will inhibit weight loss unless he eats less food. Since nobody actually does this. its best to avoid milk.
There is a reason one of the mroe popular plans for gaining weight is to drink 4 litres of milk a day.

Agree!

If you want to bloody lose weight ditch the liquid food. Milk is a great source of carbs, protein and fat when trying to gain weight or support a busy physical training week. If you're trying to lose weight ditching it is a no-brainer.

Arguing it is pretty silly. Low fat milk has a high sugar content and we all know high sugar intake is conducive to weightloss. GAH!

Weightloss: Calorie deficit + satiety
Satiety: Better achieved through lower carbs higher protein and fat.

MegaWattKungFu · 18-11-2011 01:29PM

NiCiarain wrote: »

Why is running one of the worst ways to loose weight (and bodyfat)?

Losing weight is mainly about diet. You can run all you like but if you're taking in too much calories, it won't make a difference.

Here's an article about if running is bad for you knees.

On another note, here is a list of foods that may aid in fat loss. I haven't followed those sources through but if you're interested you could. Green tea and green tea pills certainly seem to be popular.

john_cappa · 18-11-2011 02:07PM

In two weeks very little can be done.

Hanley · 18-11-2011 10:58PM

NiCiarain wrote: »

Why is running one of the worst ways to loose weight (and bodyfat)?

If you're running as a method of fat loss, chances are you're carrying quite a bit and are out of shape/deconditioned.

This poses 2 problems:
1) because you're so out of shape, you can't train for very long, hence kcals used are low
2) heavier/untrained = bigger chance of overuse injury, especially if crash dieting or trying to lose loads of weight

The other big issue is that you're never really going to burn that many kcals thru jogging. You might knock back 400-600 over a 1 hour period, and there's very few beginners that can sustain that level of effort multiple times per week.

AND there's issues around LIT cardio/jogging and hunger levels. Whereas HIT is reputed to decrease hunger post workout, there's a general agreement that LIT increases, hence you may end up eating back a large portion of what you've lost during training.

...so again, diet is key. Fix what you eat first. That's not to say you CAN'T do it that way, just that it's not advisable.

Realistically how much can you do in 2 weeks?

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