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Precise Pangolin

  • 25-04-2012 6:31pm
    #1
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,925 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Anyone planning on installing it?

    Maverick is about to go to unsupported so I'm kind of feeling the need to but I'd love to avoid all the hassle of upgrading any all the flowery ****e that's in the new versions of Ubuntu. How hard is it to upgrade these days and disable all the Unity nonsense (I use XFCE)?


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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 1,336 Mod ✭✭✭✭croo


    I'll give it a whirl on the laptop. I think I will wait a little to do the main workstation and then most probably will do a clean install (it's still on 10.4). I have /home, /var & /opt on separate partitions from / to make a full install a little easier.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭johnmcdnl


    Anyone planning on installing it?

    Maverick is about to go to unsupported so I'm kind of feeling the need to but I'd love to avoid all the hassle of upgrading any all the flowery ****e that's in the new versions of Ubuntu. How hard is it to upgrade these days and disable all the Unity nonsense (I use XFCE)?



    This easy in 11.10 - software center install and then just choose XFCE before logging in, it'll also remember this setting so your never gonna have to worry about it again - doesn't get much easier than that really... can't see it changing in 12.04 either...

    in other words it's piss easy to do :)


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,925 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Has anyone got a script or program that lists all user-installed programs (I guess that would be anything with a date newer than the oldest system file?) that I could pipe to a simple sudo apt-et install script and reinstall everything in one go after installing the OS?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,931 ✭✭✭PrzemoF


    pickarooney, I used gnome-shell for a few months (similar idea to unity), then I made some experiments, system went belly up (not exactly...) and I had to use old gnome for a couple days. I honestly prefer gnome-shell.

    Maybe you'd give unity a go for a week or two and then decide? I know that the first impression of the unity is strange :D


    To answer your question: I'll be installing PP soon on my wife's laptop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,506 ✭✭✭shizz


    Ill be installing it as soon as possible :) can't wait.
    croo wrote: »
    I'll give it a whirl on the laptop. I think I will wait a little to do the main workstation and then most probably will do a clean install (it's still on 10.4). I have /home, /var & /opt on separate partitions from / to make a full install a little easier.

    I understand the benefit in having home on a separate partition, but what is the benefit with the other 2?

    @pickarooney, When I first used Unity it was really annoying and hard to get used to but now I couldn't live without it. Well that might be going too far but you get the picture. It's really something you'd have to get used to coming from gnome classic.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 558 ✭✭✭wobbles-grogan


    Anyone have a link to the iso file?

    ubuntu.com seems to be down so a link to the heanet mirror would be poifect!!

    32 bit preferablly...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,506 ✭✭✭shizz




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 558 ✭✭✭wobbles-grogan


    Ah, excellent! I thought the site was down.

    Must be only the front page tho..

    Cheers :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,506 ✭✭✭shizz


    Ah, excellent! I thought the site was down.

    Must be only the front page tho..

    Cheers :)

    No problem. Everyone seems to be advising on downloading through torrents and then seeding if it's possible. The site's have been hit hard.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 1,336 Mod ✭✭✭✭croo


    shizz wrote: »
    I understand the benefit in having home on a separate partition, but what is the benefit with the other 2?
    Applications that I don't install via the repository I put in /opt

    /var holds data that varies ... for my own setup that includes the databases I am working with (postgresql). I am sure there is lots more there too but it's the DBs I'm interested in.


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,925 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    PrzemoF wrote: »
    pickarooney, I used gnome-shell for a few months (similar idea to unity), then I made some experiments, system went belly up (not exactly...) and I had to use old gnome for a couple days. I honestly prefer gnome-shell.

    Maybe you'd give unity a go for a week or two and then decide? I know that the first impression of the unity is strange :D


    To answer your question: I'll be installing PP soon on my wife's laptop.

    This is the family PC. If an icon changes colour there'll be widespread panic :D
    I do have the abandoned laptop though, now that I think of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,931 ✭✭✭PrzemoF


    This is the family PC. If an icon changes colour there'll be widespread panic :D
    I do have the abandoned laptop though, now that I think of it.

    OK, I got the idea :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭Stuxnet


    I love it, been testing it all along, so have gotten used to its little quirks,

    i recommend making the unity icons as small as possible 32px i think, and have it always hidden, they removed autohide for some silly reason,

    also turning up un-hide sensitivity to the max for a quick hide/unhide is the job ! all can be done with myunity app in the repo :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,771 ✭✭✭niallb


    Has anyone got a script or program that lists all user-installed programs (I guess that would be anything with a date newer than the oldest system file?) that I could pipe to a simple sudo apt-et install script and reinstall everything in one go after installing the OS?

    Quoting myself from a couple of years ago, but it's a good basic approach :-)
    Moving between two LTS versions at least, it should be pretty clean.
    A copy of /etc/apt and this list would allow you rebuild a machine with exactly the same installed software with very little work.
    Any chance of just backing up the machine as is and then running an apt-get dist-upgrade with the option of rolling back if necessary?
    niallb wrote:
    On the original machine, run the following command:

    dpkg --get-selections >Laptop1-get-selections.pkglist

    Do a basic install on the second laptop, copy the file over and run this as root:

    dpkg --set-selections <Laptop1-get-selections.pkglist

    This prepares the laptop for the package list,
    and

    apt-get dselect-upgrade

    will pull down and install the list of packages.

    Possible hiccups occur if you've enabled different repositories on the first laptop,
    but copying over the contents of /etc/apt to the new laptop prior to running the commands above will take care of that after apt-get update

    In this case you'll have the updated repository releases in the new installation, and if you've ppa's there may be some discomfort - particularly if you're on 11.10 and have been trying various ways of getting rid of unity!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭Eliot Rosewater


    I'm going to give this "a twirl" to see if some of the myriad of issues affecting 11.10 have been fixed.

    Like, have people found the new Ubuntus to be quite buggy? Since I installed 11.10 on my laptop I've notived loads of small annyoing things, such as
    • No CD identification in Rythmbox.
    • Start up getting slower over time.
    • Spontaneous log out every now and then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 slashtom


    Ubuntu Ireland are holding a release party to mark this new LTS version, tonight at 8pm in The Black Sheep on Capel Street, Dublin 1:
    http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=53.34980&mlon=-6.26900&zoom=16&layers=M

    We have a table reserved in the name of 'Ubuntu Ireland', all are welcome.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 8,289 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jonathan


    I've got two packages in universe for this release. Enjoy them. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 966 ✭✭✭equivariant


    Installed precise pangolin on my new workstation at work and I am really liking it.

    Note that there is a known bug in lightdm that can prevent you from logging in. This occurred for me, but there is a workaround posted here - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1968155 :)

    I just reverted to gdm for the login screen which is plainer looking than lightdm but who cares about the login screen really.

    This bug occurred when I installed the gnome-shell package but that may have been coincidence judging by other reports


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,925 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Installed precise pangolin on my new workstation at work and I am really liking it.

    Note that there is a known bug in lightdm that can prevent you from logging in. This occurred for me, but there is a workaround posted here - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1968155 :)

    So black box testing fails at the absolute first step? A new low for Canonical QA :D


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