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Taxi fare from airport to Ballsbridge

  • 04-07-2012 04:20PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84 ✭✭


    Anyone got a rough idea what three people might expect to pay for a taxi from Dublin Airport to Ballsbridge during daytime hours - assume three small suitcases as well?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,263 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    Allow for around €25.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,472 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    I would say at least €30. It often costs over €20 from the city centre alone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,263 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    I would say at least €30. It often costs over €20 from the city centre alone.

    Unless it's rush hour or night rate, it won't come close to €30. Trust me :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Mark200


    The taxi ranks in the city centre advertise "approx" €20 to the airport, so add on €2 for the extra people and then whatever the extra coats will be for your luggage if you have any, a few Euro to get from city centre to Ballsbridge, and I'm sure you won't be too far off the actual fare.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,477 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    You could book a taxi to come and pick you up at the airport and they will give you a discount.

    For instance <snipped> give 25% off from the airport.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,597 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    Doesn't the Aircoach go to Ballsbridge?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,263 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    bk wrote: »
    You could book a taxi to come and pick you up at the airport and they will give you a discount.

    For instance 8202020.ie give 25% off from the airport.

    Yes but don't forget to add on the €2 call out charge plus time waiting for your taxi to meet you at an agreed pick up point. It can be some hassle and time for a saving of €2-€3, especially if you don't know the airport that well.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,477 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    wexford12 wrote: »
    I was banned for advertising maybe because I'm not a mod I gave my web address when someone asked about a limo service

    Ok I've removed that info from my post. Can you remove it from your post where you quote me?

    The difference is it sounds like you gave a link to your own business which is considered spam.

    Recommending a service of a company you have no affiliation with isn't considered spam.

    After all on this forum we recommend Dublin Bus, Irish Rail, Bus Eireann and Luas services every day. So no different really.

    However since you asked, I have removed it.

    BTW I'm not a mod of this forum, so on this forum I'm just a general user and the same rules apply to me.

    Sorry Losty, if you wouldn't mind, can you also edit your post where you quote me, at least the address of the company in question. Sorry for the inconvenience.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 899 ✭✭✭oisindoyle


    bk wrote: »
    Ok I've removed that info from my post. Can you remove it from your post where you quote me?

    The difference is it sounds like you gave a link to your own business which is considered spam.

    Recommending a service of a company you have no affiliation with isn't considered spam.

    After all on this forum we recommend Dublin Bus, Irish Rail, Bus Eireann and Luas services every day. So no different really.

    But surely its unfair since you ARE advertising a particular taxi company ,you may have removed it but it is still visible on the above "quotes "


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 899 ✭✭✭oisindoyle


    Mark200 wrote: »
    The taxi ranks in the city centre advertise "approx" €20 to the airport, so add on €2 for the extra people and then whatever the extra coats will be for your luggage if you have any, a few Euro to get from city centre to Ballsbridge, and I'm sure you won't be too far off the actual fare.

    There is NO charge for luggage .
    The approx price to Ballsbridge is 25-27 euro from airport


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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,477 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    oisindoyle wrote: »
    But surely its unfair since you ARE advertising a particular taxi company ,you may have removed it but it is still visible on the above "quotes "

    I'm not advertising a company, you have to work for the company or somehow paid by them to advertise them. No I'm recommending a company based on my personal experience.

    And how is that different then I recommending someone takes the 16a from the airport or the 747 from the airport or the Aircoach from the airport?

    After all they are all also a particular company. A private one too with Aircoach.

    I recommended the one I did simply because I use them myself, I'm aware of the offer they currently have and I've been very happy with their service.

    I've asked the other two posters to modify the quote, but there is nothing I can do now beyond that. However I still say that it isn't against the rules to recommend a particular company, we do it almost every day here on boards. However in the end it is up to Victor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭wexford12


    I have removed the post but I don't see that you should give one company a plug its not like Dublin bus or the Dart or Luas as the don't really have any direct competition


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,477 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    wexford12 wrote: »
    I have removed the post but I don't see that you should give one company a plug its not like Dublin bus or the Dart or Luas as the don't really have any direct competition

    Well in the example I gave, 16, 747 and Aircoach, they all directly compete with one another on pretty much the same route.

    Again there is nothing in the rules of boards that says a person can't recommend a company or service as long as they aren't affiliated with it.

    To give you another example, people recommend amazon or argos or tescos on other forums of boards almost every day.

    On the forums I mod, people recommend UPC or Sky every day based on their own experiences. People also recommend particular companies satellite receivers and also websites to buy it on.

    All normal and completely allowed. I only removed my post, not because it is against the rules, but because some taxi drivers here on this forum are hypersensitive about this particular company and I don't want to get into an argument with them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,764 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Mark200 wrote: »
    The taxi ranks in the city centre advertise "approx" €20 to the airport, so add on €2 for the extra people and then whatever the extra coats will be for your luggage if you have any, a few Euro to get from city centre to Ballsbridge, and I'm sure you won't be too far off the actual fare.

    Actually they advertise 'approx €20' but thats for a different thread I guess.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,692 ✭✭✭Jarren


    Not sure how accurate is this

    http://www.worldtaximeter.com/dublin/Dublin+airport/Ballsbridge/12-32

    About 30 Euros including the road toll I'd say.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,477 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    Actually they advertise 'approx €20' but thats for a different thread I guess.

    If you ask for the €20 fare from town to the airport, then they don't turn on the meter and it is exactly €20, no matter how many people.

    At least that is my experience from the O'Connell St rank.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,472 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    The cheapest it has ever been from the city centre to the airport was €22. That was at 7am on a Sunday, no traffic at all around meter running.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 899 ✭✭✭oisindoyle


    bk wrote: »
    If you ask for the €20 fare from town to the airport, then they don't turn on the meter and it is exactly €20, no matter how many people.

    At least that is my experience from the O'Connell St rank.
    Then you were travelling illegally in a taxi ,The meter MUST be on .
    Not only that but the fare from the gresham rank is less than 20 euro


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,477 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    oisindoyle wrote: »
    Then you were travelling illegally in a taxi ,The meter MUST be on .
    Not only that but the fare from the gresham rank is less than 20 euro

    Let me point one thing out, I wasn't travelling illegally in a taxi. The taxi driver might have been acting illegally, but I wasn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,263 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    bk wrote: »
    Let me point one thing out, I wasn't travelling illegally in a taxi. The taxi driver might have been acting illegally, but I wasn't.

    If you hire a taxi and agree to a fare with the driver, you as hirer must sign a waiver to absolve both the driver and yourself to work out the fare as per the meter. If you didn't sign this waiver with the driver then it was you acted illegally in hiring the taxi, not the driver. The meter is there for your benefit and not that of the driver; where you to use a taxi and had a need to claim from his insurance then you'd have little proof that you engaged or used the taxi; it is also your comeback in the event of a fixed price being disagreed. Which does happen with passengers, I can assure you.

    I'm not saying this to pick a hole with you, this is for your protection as a passenger.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 899 ✭✭✭oisindoyle


    As it happens I was in a taxi today from the airport to the Clyde Hotel (old berkley court hotel) Lansdown Rd Ballsbridge and the fare was 22.50 euro exactly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,768 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    oisindoyle wrote: »
    As it happens I was in a taxi today from the airport to the Clyde Hotel (old berkley court hotel) Lansdown Rd Ballsbridge and the fare was 22.50 euro exactly

    Time of day and route? Sometimes, I find paying for port tunnel and East link Makes a significant difference timewise to get to Lanswne/Shelbourne.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,655 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    NTA Taxi fare calculator [url]Http://www.transportforireland.ie/taxi/fare-estimator/[/url]

    Ballsbridge (the bridge) to Terminal 1. T2 should be slightly cheaper.

    14.4km via Beckett Bridge
    15.8km via East Link Bridge and Port Tunnel

    Unless in a hurry, consider avoiding the port tunnel in the evening rush as the toll is €10 northbound, but only €3 northbound in the morning (and vice versa). http://www.nra.ie/GeneralTollingInformation/TollCharges/DublinPortTunnel/

    via Beckett Bridge
    1 km @ €4.10 = €4.10
    13.4 km @ €1.03 = 13.80
    Total = €17.90 absolute cheapest, assuming no traffic, green traffic lights the whole way, nothing goes wrong, one passenger, no booking.

    via East Link Bridge and Port Tunnel
    1 km @ €4.10 = €4.10
    14 km @ €1.03 = 14.42
    0.8km @ €1.35 = 1.08
    Toll bridge = €1.75
    Toll tunnel = €3.00
    Total = €24.35 absolute cheapest, assuming no traffic, green traffic lights the whole way, nothing goes wrong, one passenger, no booking.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 899 ✭✭✭oisindoyle


    Marcusm wrote: »
    Time of day and route? Sometimes, I find paying for port tunnel and East link Makes a significant difference timewise to get to Lanswne/Shelbourne.

    Around midday it was and the route was pretty direct ,,Dorset St Gardiner St ,Lombard St ,Weslasnd Row ,,Shelbourne Rd ,,,,
    Why pay extra by going tru the tunnel at times its a tenner extra other times 3 euro


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,477 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    If you didn't sign this waiver with the driver then it was you acted illegally in hiring the taxi, not the driver.

    Losty be very careful here. You are making a very serious accusation here. You are accusing me of breaking the law!!

    To do something like that in a public forum like this is a very serious matter, with potentially serious consequences.

    So please point out the legislation that I as a passenger broke or please withdraw this accusation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 899 ✭✭✭oisindoyle


    Victor wrote: »
    NTA Taxi fare calculator [URL]Http://www.transportforireland.ie/taxi/fare-estimator/[/URL]

    Ballsbridge (the bridge) to Terminal 1. T2 should be slightly cheaper.

    14.4km via Beckett Bridge
    15.8km via East Link Bridge and Port Tunnel

    Unless in a hurry, consider avoiding the port tunnel in the evening rush as the toll is €10 northbound, but only €3 northbound in the morning (and vice versa). http://www.nra.ie/GeneralTollingInformation/TollCharges/DublinPortTunnel/

    via Beckett Bridge
    1 km @ €4.10 = €4.10
    13.4 km @ €1.03 = 13.80
    Total = €17.90 absolute cheapest, assuming no traffic, green traffic lights the whole way, nothing goes wrong, one passenger, no booking.

    via East Link Bridge and Port Tunnel
    1 km @ €4.10 = €4.10
    14 km @ €1.03 = 14.42
    0.8km @ €1.35 = 1.08
    Toll bridge = €1.75
    Toll tunnel = €3.00
    Total = €24.35 absolute cheapest, assuming no traffic, green traffic lights the whole way, nothing goes wrong, one passenger, no booking.

    How is Terminal 2 cheaper???

    I would always avoid Beckett bridge Never again would I use it ,,It seems no matter what it is always chocker bloc leading from Seville place to the bridge ..
    Cant see how u can sa 24.35 is cheapest I travelled from airport and it was 22.30 ,,plus the .35 cent shows it is a sunday or before 8am/after8pm rate ,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,655 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    oisindoyle wrote: »
    How is Terminal 2 cheaper???
    Because it is closer to Ballsbridge. :)
    Cant see how u can sa 24.35 is cheapest I travelled from airport and it was 22.30
    Did that include toll charges, as my example did?
    plus the .35 cent shows it is a sunday or before 8am/after8pm rate
    How do you reckon this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,768 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    oisindoyle wrote: »
    How is Terminal 2 cheaper???

    I would always avoid Beckett bridge Never again would I use it ,,It seems no matter what it is always chocker bloc leading from Seville place to the bridge ..
    Cant see how u can sa 24.35 is cheapest I travelled from airport and it was 22.30 ,,plus the .35 cent shows it is a sunday or before 8am/after8pm rate ,

    I thought you didn't use the tunnel; on that basis Victor's EUR17.90 would be the comparator. You're absolutely right that you should have been ont he higher Sunday rate. My experience of the Beckett Bridge is that it can be very clear outside rush hours and is by far the best way to avoid the generally heavier city centre traffic if you're heading to south quays or Ballsbridge.

    I still think the tunnel can be better at specific times, e.g. coming into the city at 6:30 on a Friday evening when you can wait 15 mins in traffic racking up extra costs!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 899 ✭✭✭oisindoyle


    Victor wrote: »
    Because it is closer to Ballsbridge. :)

    You're being silly now ,,behave !
    Victor wrote: »
    Did that include toll charges, as my example did?
    No toll was involved ,see above route taken
    Victor wrote: »
    How do you reckon this?

    I dont' "reckon" anything it's fact


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 899 ✭✭✭oisindoyle


    Marcusm wrote: »
    I thought you didn't use the tunnel; on that basis Victor's EUR17.90 would be the comparator.!
    Sorry ,don't get ya ?
    Marcusm wrote: »
    You're absolutely right that you should have been ont he higher Sunday rate.!
    Huh?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,655 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    oisindoyle wrote: »
    You're being silly now ,,behave !
    Erm ....
    No toll was involved ,see above route taken
    Do you mean the underlined bit in my quote that says "via East Link Bridge and Port Tunnel"?
    I dont' "reckon" anything it's fact
    You might study the fare card again.

    https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/2160/212461.JPG


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 899 ✭✭✭oisindoyle


    Victor wrote: »
    Erm ....

    I was being serious ..lol

    Victor wrote: »
    Do you mean the underlined bit in my quote that says "via East Link Bridge and Port Tunnel"?

    Think our wires may be crossed here ,,you said your fare of 24 odd was useing toll and you saked me if the fare I quoted 22.50 was useing the toll I said the toll wasnt used in the 22.50 fare ....hope thats clear????
    Victor wrote: »

    Hard to explain ,,buyt the fare card breakdown is subhumed into the total fare ,,,,for example the fare between 8am and 8pm always ends in 10's 20's 30's ect ect i.e. 20.50 euro 15.10 euro
    Fare totals on a Sunday or between the hours of 8pm and 8am end in .05cents i.e. 20.35, 15.55 ect etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,263 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    bk wrote: »
    Losty be very careful here. You are making a very serious accusation here. You are accusing me of breaking the law!!

    To do something like that in a public forum like this is a very serious matter, with potentially serious consequences.

    So please point out the legislation that I as a passenger broke or please withdraw this accusation.

    I'm not accusing you of breaking the law, I am informing you that broke the law and advised you of what to do to protect yourself in future. As for what law, fare tariffs are described under the Taxi Regulation Act, 2003.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,477 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    I'm not accusing you of breaking the law, I am informing you that broke the law and advised you of what to do to protect yourself in future. As for what law, fare tariffs are described under the Taxi Regulation Act, 2003.

    Please quote exactly the part of the act where it says that I as a passenger broke the law?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,263 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    bk wrote: »
    Please quote exactly the part of the act where it says that I as a passenger broke the law?

    You broke the SI that confers the metering rates and bye laws. With all respect, it's well flagged on the NTA site that you require a waiver; go contact them regarding same.


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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,477 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    As I suspected, I could find no evidence in the act, that I as a passenger broke any laws.

    Namely section 40(3) states:
    A person, or where prior arrangements in relation to payment have been made with another party, that party, who has hired a small public service vehicle shall pay the fare agreed in advance for the hire or, where the maximum fare for the hire is the subject of a maximum fares order, the fare determined in accordance with that order.

    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2003/en/act/pub/0025/print.html#sec40

    Note that I as a passenger, paid in full the fare that was agreed in advance.

    And therefore I broke no law.

    The driver on the other hand may have broken a few different parts of this law, such as

    41(11)
    The driver of a taxi who charges or attempts to charge a fare for a hire, in respect of a journey in a taximeter area to which a maximum fares order applies, that is greater than the maximum fare that may be calculated in accordance with the order is guilty of an offence.

    If the agreed upon fare ended up higher then the maximum fare, then the driver would have broken the law.

    and/or

    39(2)(e)(g)

    39
    1) The Commission may, subject to any Ministerial directions, make regulations in relation to the conduct, general behaviour, deportment and the duties of drivers of small public service vehicles.


    (2) Without prejudice to the generality of subsection (1), the Commission may make regulations for the purpose of setting requirements in respect of any or all of the following matters—

    (e) the recording of agreed fares prior to the commencement of a hire,

    (g) the issue of receipts,

    39(4)
    A driver of a small public service vehicle who fails to comply with or contravenes a regulation made under this section is guilty of an offence.

    So the DRIVER may have been guilty of an offence under this part of the act as he didn't follow the regulations on recording the fare.

    However I as a passenger broke no laws as far as I can see.

    So again Losty, I'll ask you to point out in the act exactly how I as a passenger to broke the law?

    If you can't then I'll ask you to withdraw your accusation.

    Again I'll remind you that accusing someone of breaking a law in a public forum is a very serious matter, it can be considered defamation of character. I'm asking you to kindly prove I did or withdraw your accusation.

    I'm giving you a fair opportunity to correct this mistake, before I take the matter further.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,263 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    Contact the NTA if you want to find out more; it is explicitly mentioned on their website that you have to get said waiver.
    bk wrote: »
    As I suspected, I could find no evidence in the act, that I as a passenger broke any laws.

    Namely section 40(3) states:



    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2003/en/act/pub/0025/print.html#sec40

    Note that I as a passenger, paid in full the fare that was agreed in advance.

    And therefore I broke no law.

    The driver on the other hand may have broken a few different parts of this law, such as

    41(11)

    If the agreed upon fare ended up higher then the maximum fare, then the driver would have broken the law.

    and/or

    39(2)(e)(g)

    39

    39(4)

    So the DRIVER may have been guilty of an offence under this part of the act as he didn't follow the regulations on recording the fare.

    However I as a passenger broke no laws as far as I can see.

    So again Losty, I'll ask you to point out in the act exactly how I as a passenger to broke the law?

    If you can't then I'll ask you to withdraw your accusation.

    Again I'll remind you that accusing someone of breaking a law in a public forum is a very serious matter, it can be considered defamation of character. I'm asking you to kindly prove I did or withdraw your accusation.

    I'm giving you a fair opportunity to correct this mistake, before I take the matter further.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,477 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    Contact the NTA if you want to find out more; it is explicitly mentioned on their website that you have to get said waiver.

    Losty it is you I have issue with, not the NTA.

    Let me make this very clear, you accused me of breaking the law in a public forum.

    That is slander and defamation of character.

    I'm giving you an opportunity to admit you were wrong, to remove your accusation about me or I will take this further.

    What some website says is totally irrelevant here. The only thing that matters is what the legislation says.

    BTW The NTA site doesn't actually seem to have any information on this waiver, however the Citizens information website says:

    http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/travel_and_recreation/public_transport/charges_for_taxi_hackney_and_limosuine_services.html
    Current Regulations

    Under Section 39 of the Taxi Regulation Act 2003, it is an offence for a taxi or hackney driver to charge you more than the maximum fee shown on the meter or the fee agreed at the start of the journey. If you feel you have been overcharged, you are entitled to make a complaint about the taxi driver. Under Section 40 of the 2003 Taxi Regulation Act, it is an offence for a passenger in a SPSV not to pay the agreed fare or maximum fare shown on the taximeter. The driver is entitled to ask you to prove that you can afford to pay the fare before the journey begins. If you cannot prove this, they can refuse to take you on the journey.

    Under Section 39 of the Taxi Regulation Act 2003, you are entitled to receive a printed receipt at the end of a taxi journey upon payment. The receipt should detail the date, duration of the journey, distance, amount paid and vehicle licence number.

    So again, it pretty much says the same thing as the act. I as a passenger must pay the the agreed fare, which I did. The driver on the other hand might have broken the law by not following the required procedure in recording the fare. Big difference.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,263 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    Yep. Sure it is. Get in line; slander to the left, fraud to the right and internet cases in the middle mine. You will win millions on this; the case of the week.

    bk wrote: »
    Losty it is you I have issue with, not the NTA.

    Let me make this very clear, you accused me of breaking the law in a public forum.

    That is slander and defamation of character.

    I'm giving you an opportunity to admit you were wrong, to remove your accusation about me or I will take this further.

    What some website says is totally irrelevant here. The only thing that matters is what the legislation says.

    BTW The NTA site doesn't actually seem to have any information on this waiver, however the Citizens information website says:

    http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/travel_and_recreation/public_transport/charges_for_taxi_hackney_and_limosuine_services.html



    So again, it pretty much says the same thing as the act. I as a passenger must pay the the agreed fare, which I did. The driver on the other hand might have broken the law by not following the required procedure in recording the fare. Big difference.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,477 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    Yep. Sure it is. Get in line; slander to the left, fraud to the right and internet cases in the middle mine. You will win millions on this; the case of the week.

    Hmm, so you are just one of those people who can't admit when you are wrong.

    It is ok to be wrong sometimes, I readily admit I make mistakes from time to time, but the difference is I readily admit it when I am.

    And often people make mistakes and I just let it slide, but this is the first time of being on boards for ten years that anyone has ever accused me of breaking the law and that is serious.

    So lets review:

    1) you accuse me of breaking the law.
    2) I ask you for what legislation states I broke the law
    3) You vaguely point me at the 2003 act.
    4) I actually bother to read the act and find nothing to suggest that I as a passenger broke the law, but plenty to suggest that the driver may have broken the law.
    5) You then vaguely wave me at the NTA website, with no actual link saying vaguely that there is some info about waivers there and to go ask the NTA. *
    6) I can't find any info on the NTA site about the waiver forms, though there is some info on the ci website, but again it says it is the drviers problem, not the passengers.

    * Which would be irrelevant anyway as you can only break the law, if the law exists on the statue books and clearly you can't find any that does. The 2003 act only gives the NTA powers to regulate taxi drivers actions, not passengers. The requiremenrs of passengers (e.g. pay the agreed fare, not damage the taxi, etc.) is clearly laid out in the 2003 act.

    So can't you act like a responsible adult and just admit you were wrong and retract your accusation?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/travel_and_recreation/public_transport/charges_for_taxi_hackney_and_limosuine_services.html
    Section 42 of the Taxi Regulation Act 2003 empowered the Taxi Regulator to make all of Ireland one taximeter area. In September 2006 a new National Maximum Taxi Fare was introduced which fixed maximum fares for this national taximeter area. This means that all taxi fares for all taxi journeys are calculated on the meter (unless in the case of pre-booked taxis a written waiver agreement is in place). In November 2008 a revised National Maximum Taxi Fare came into effect.
    It is my understanding that even with a pre-booked taxi it is the drivers responsibility to arrange any paperwork required including a waiver agreement and receipts, and even with a waiver agreement the meter must still be on and recording the journey and maximum fare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭wexford12


    I'm with Foggy on this one I can't see how BK is so annoyed by this over a fare where the meter was not put on. I have asked the regulator about this in the past even with a waver the meter needs to be running and if the meter is less than the waver a refund must be given.
    Bk this is a chat forum why oh why would you want to take legal action over this. A solicitor would laugh at this let alone a court how would you even find out who Foggy is ???
    And as a Mod I thought that the rules on here was not to have a one on one slagging match with another poster


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,477 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    wexford12 wrote: »
    I'm with Foggy on this one I can't see how BK is so annoyed by this over a fare where the meter was not put on. I have asked the regulator about this in the past even with a waver the meter needs to be running and if the meter is less than the waver a refund must be given.

    Wexford, you seem to misunderstand the whole situation. I had no problem with the meter not being put on, non at all, I asked for a fixed fare, was given it and paid it.

    What I'm so annoyed about was when Losty accused me, as a passenger, of breaking the law.

    To accuse anyone of breaking a law on a public forum is a very serious matter and not something I was going to take likely. Losty basically accused me of being a criminal.

    I kindly asked Losty to either prove I broke the law or retract his accusation.

    Wexford, would you just accept it if someone accused you of being a criminal and breaking the law?
    wexford12 wrote: »
    Bk this is a chat forum why oh why would you want to take legal action over this. A solicitor would laugh at this let alone a court how would you even find out who Foggy is ???

    Err, again perhaps you should go back and read the thread.

    First of all my problem is with Losty, not with Foggy.

    Second of all no where did I ever say I'd take legal action. While that might be an option, I would certainly consider it a last resort, no I was speaking of taking it to the attention of the mods.

    Third a solicitor wouldn't laugh at it, it is a pretty much open and shut case of defamation. Just because it is an internet forum doesn't make it any less an offense in the eyes of the law.

    Fourth, it is quiet easy to track who a user is with a court order. The internet really isn't anonymous. First the court would make an order to boards.ie for the IP address of the user and then their ISP to get their name and address of the owner of the IP address. Been done many times before.

    Let me repeat I don't want to actually do this. All I'm asking is for Losty to either prove I broke the law or be a man and admit he was wrong and withdraw his accusation.
    wexford12 wrote: »
    And as a Mod I thought that the rules on here was not to have a one on one slagging match with another poster

    We aren't having a slagging match. Losty accused me of breaking the law and I'm simply asking him to prove it. I'm sure in my place you would do the same.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    wexford12 wrote: »
    I'm with Foggy on this one I can't see how BK is so annoyed by this over a fare where the meter was not put on. I have asked the regulator about this in the past even with a waver the meter needs to be running and if the meter is less than the waver a refund must be given.
    Bk this is a chat forum why oh why would you want to take legal action over this. A solicitor would laugh at this let alone a court how would you even find out who Foggy is ???
    And as a Mod I thought that the rules on here was not to have a one on one slagging match with another poster
    My post above is in defence of the stance taken by BK in seeking to have their name cleared and removal of any mention or inference of any kind of criminality. I have pointed to a part of the legislation and said how I believe it places all the responsibility and obligation upon the taxi driver and no responsibility or possibility of wrongdoing on the passenger where a fare is agreed beforehand with or without a meter or waiver form being used.

    Losty seems to think that if a customer does not insist on signing a waiver form after a driver agrees to take them "off the meter" it is the passenger who is breaking the law.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31 StevenGerrard


    If you were going monday-Saturday at midday it would cost 25.10
    if you were going on a sunday it would cost 31.47


    Source: http://www.worldtaximeter.com/dublin


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 899 ✭✭✭oisindoyle


    If you were going monday-Saturday at midday it would cost 25.10
    if you were going on a sunday it would cost 31.47


    Source: http://www.worldtaximeter.com/dublin

    It wouldn't ,,NO fare ends in .47 cent

    for the LAST time fares between 8pm and 8am and on Sundays the total fare will come to .05 or .15 or .55
    fares after 8am and before 8pm fare total ends in.10 .20 .40 ..

    *sighs*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,655 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    oisindoyle wrote: »
    It wouldn't ,,NO fare ends in .47 cent

    for the LAST time fares between 8pm and 8am and on Sundays the total fare will come to .05 or .15 or .55
    fares after 8am and before 8pm fare total ends in.10 .20 .40 ..

    *sighs*
    Stop being so pedantic.


    In a €30 fare, 2 cents is irrelevant. Given the variability in where exactly people are going and traffic, no meter fare can be predicted exactly. Roll on 10 metres and the fare can click on to the next 10c. However, it is a lot easier to predict the €31.45 compared to the 2c.

    When fares are rounded to the nearest 5c or 10c, are drivers sometimes overcharging by a few cents?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 899 ✭✭✭oisindoyle


    Victor wrote: »
    Stop being so pedantic.


    I'm not being pedantic in the slightest .A poster qouted a particular fare that is incorrect and would never ever be shown on a meter
    Victor wrote: »
    In a €30 fare, 2 cents is irrelevant. Given the variability in where exactly people are going and traffic, no meter fare can be predicted exactly. Roll on 10 metres and the fare can click on to the next 10c. However, it is a lot easier to predict the €31.45 compared to the 2c.?

    But a meter NEVER shows 2 cents 1 cents ..The only cents shown are either.10 cents 20/30/40/50 ect or .05 cents or .00 cents depending on the time of hire
    Victor wrote: »
    When fares are rounded to the nearest 5c or 10c, are drivers sometimes overcharging by a few cents?

    No fares are not rounded to the nearset 5 cent or 10 cent you are incorrect ...see above
    and why the assumption again incorrect about overchargeing by a "few cents" by drivers ,,the meter will clearly show either .00 cents .05 cents or .10 cents


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,805 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    Normally fares go up in say 20c incraments no?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭wexford12


    devnull wrote: »
    Normally fares go up in say 20c incraments no?

    Yes day time it starts at €4.10 and jumps up by 20cent each time
    Night time it starts at €4.45 and jumps up by 20cent each time

    I don't know anyone who charges the 5cent indeed if a fare is €6.10 I would only ask for the 6


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