Sky Broadband

td1 · 21-08-2012 11:27am #1

Anyone been on to Sky to enquire about this yet, and if so, have you heard anything back from them re. timeframes/speeds/prices etc?

starviewadams · 21-08-2012 2:31pm

Will be the same as whatever speeds you can get from Eircom currently as Sky will just be re-selling their service.

td1 · 21-08-2012 4:38pm

My search for a decent broadband service continues so

Bohrio · 21-08-2012 6:09pm

starviewadams wrote: »

Will be the same as whatever speeds you can get from Eircom currently as Sky will just be re-selling their service.

They will also use BTs LLU platform

starviewadams · 21-08-2012 6:17pm

Only 88 exchanges nationwide are covered by LLU though.

fishfortwo · 21-08-2012 6:41pm

I just spoke to someone who said they are doing TV phone and BB for 58 per month. The phone sounds good free evening and weekends to landlines and mobiles. Was going to be coming sept, much sooner than the Jan I had heard previously.

helimachoptor · 21-08-2012 7:06pm

fishfortwo wrote: »

I just spoke to someone who said they are doing TV phone and BB for 58 per month. The phone sounds good free evening and weekends to landlines and mobiles. Was going to be coming sept, much sooner than the Jan I had heard previously.

Unless this person was god and was going to be snapping their fingers and instantly setting up all the systems processes etc this was never ever going to happen.

fishfortwo · 21-08-2012 7:15pm

helimachoptor wrote: »

Unless this person was god and was going to be snapping their fingers and instantly setting up all the systems processes etc this was never ever going to happen.

True, more than prob a door to door sales person blowing a load of smoke to get the sale from him, unless he is in some sort of early trial. The price point is quite nice and the prospect of the phone package does sound rather good.

helimachoptor · 21-08-2012 7:17pm

fishfortwo wrote: »

True, more than prob a door to door sales person blowing a load of smoke to get the sale from him, unless he is in some sort of early trial. The price point is quite nice and the prospect of the phone package does sound rather good.

Early trials.. not just yet :cool:

Bohrio · 22-08-2012 2:05pm

starviewadams wrote: »

Only 88 exchanges nationwide are covered by LLU though.

A bit more although, as far as I know, some of those exchanges at maximum capacity.

Still, it is not a bad number. That's around 150.000 potential customers give or take. At the moment BT probably has around 100.000 customers (business and residential) connected to LLU exchanges (BT).

Jocelynel · 27-08-2012 9:28pm

A Sky rep just called this evening. He said sky bb and phone coming in September and current sky tv customers will have complimentary bb and phone for 3 months....

still couldn't give me the prices, but said they were cheaper than UPC

bk · 27-08-2012 11:21pm

Jocelynel wrote: »

still couldn't give me the prices, but said they were cheaper than UPC

And much slower then UPC too.

I also fully expect that UPC will match and better any prices offered by Sky.

UPC are really kicking butt at the moment. Their broadband is vastly superior to anything Eircom/Sky can or will offer. They have vastly improved their TV offering over the last year, matching Sky now. They have vastly outpaced Sky with their Video On Demand service and their Horizon box should be out soon that will probably be far more advanced then the Sky box.

Soon it looks like UPC will not only have an excellent broadband products, but also the best TV product. No wonder Sky is panicking and rushing to introduce broadband as quickly as possible.

demanufactured · 28-08-2012 8:09am

Jocelynel wrote: »

A Sky rep just called this evening. He said sky bb and phone coming in September and current sky tv customers will have complimentary bb and phone for 3 months....

still couldn't give me the prices, but said they were cheaper than UPC

Of course it'll be cheaper than UPC ....it'll be muck compared to UPC.

Jocelynel · 28-08-2012 8:58am

demanufactured wrote: »

Of course it'll be cheaper than UPC ....it'll be muck compared to UPC.

i left UPC earlier this year because our service kept going down approx. 4 times a week and sometimes for a couple of hours at a time. i can't wait to try the sky 3 in one package!

helimachoptor · 28-08-2012 6:50pm

Jocelynel wrote: »

A Sky rep just called this evening. He said sky bb and phone coming in September and current sky tv customers will have complimentary bb and phone for 3 months....

Complete rubbish...

Jocelynel · 28-08-2012 6:56pm

helimachoptor wrote: »

Complete rubbish...

yep! that's what i thought....time will tell eh! they said there is a massive call center about to open to take the volume of phone calls....

helimachoptor · 28-08-2012 6:59pm

Jocelynel wrote: »

yep! that's what i thought....time will tell eh! they said there is a massive call center about to open to take the volume of phone calls....

This is not a secret and neither is BB, however the rubbish being spouted about times and offers is just crazy!

Jocelynel · 28-08-2012 7:06pm

helimachoptor wrote: »

This is not a secret and neither is BB, however the rubbish being spouted about times and offers is just crazy!

i registered on their website last night for bb and phone....just got a message back to say we will be in touch shortly. i can't find anything on the sky website about prices...

helimachoptor · 28-08-2012 7:07pm

Jocelynel wrote: »

i registered on their website last night for bb and phone....just got a message back to say we will be in touch shortly. i can't find anything on the sky website about prices...

You wont, it will be sometime before pricing info will be released

Jocelynel · 29-08-2012 6:55pm

well....i was in blanchardstown today and had a chat with the sky rep there. he told me i was misinformed by whoever that sky rep was. he said these sky reps calling door to door do not work directly for sky. even the staff dont know yet what the prices will be, they will find out perhaps 1-2 weeks before they appear on the website. they are still only at recruitment stage for their call center.

bealtine · 29-08-2012 7:10pm

Jocelynel wrote: »

well....i was in blanchardstown today and had a chat with the sky rep there. he told me i was misinformed by whoever that sky rep was. he said these sky reps calling door to door do not work directly for sky. even the staff dont know yet what the prices will be, they will find out perhaps 1-2 weeks before they appear on the website. they are still only at recruitment stage for their call center.

It's all snake oil at this stage so the guy is right

Al Capwned · 30-08-2012 7:27pm

Copped this page on the Sky website this morning.

We're excited to announce that we will be launching Sky Broadband and Sky Talk, including line rental, in Ireland later this year. Just like in the UK, we promise to lead on quality, value and customer service.

Footy101 · 04-09-2012 3:30pm

Was hoping the Broadband service from Sky was going to be excellent, but judging by posters on this thread it appears that won't be the case :-( Although, living close to city centre and the fact I only use for browsing, would still prob make sense to get the 3 in 1 package. Can't be all that bad?!!!

Jocelynel · 04-09-2012 3:47pm

Footy101 wrote: »

Was hoping the Broadband service from Sky was going to be excellent, but judging by posters on this thread it appears that won't be the case :-( Although, living close to city centre and the fact I only use for browsing, would still prob make sense to get the 3 in 1 package. Can't be all that bad?!!!

well i can't wait to give sky a chance....for me it can't be any worse than upc!

bealtine · 04-09-2012 7:49pm

Jocelynel wrote: »

well i can't wait to give sky a chance....for me it can't be any worse than upc!

sure an "up to" 8Mbs or 24mbs will be easily as good as 100Mbs right?

Jocelynel · 04-09-2012 7:52pm

bealtine wrote: »

sure an "up to" 8Mbs or 24mbs will be easily as good as 100Mbs right?

my issue is that upc couldn't get my speed past 5mbs PLUS the service went down every fews days. very annoying if your watching your favourite tv show or having a chat on the phone

tlaavtech · 14-09-2012 9:36am

Originally Posted by bealtine
sure an "up to" 8Mbs or 24mbs will be easily as good as 100Mbs right?

Don't forget those of us that don't live in a cabled area who are paying Sky and a telephone provider. If there is a cost saving and unlimited D/L it is a no brainer of a decision.

We don't get the option of your wonderful broadband (but we also don't get saddled with the dubious picture quality

)

toby2111 · 15-09-2012 6:40pm

Any update on launch date and prices for this?

Dazza · 15-09-2012 6:53pm

Anyone else sign up for the beta trial thingy? Signed up week ago heard noting as of yet

Ghandee · 27-09-2012 8:34pm

Bit of a bump.

Was hoping there would be a thread about this.

I think it must be coming soon enough, as strangely I had VF on to me today, calling from a private number (when will companies realise, the vast majority of us hate taking calls from a PN? :mad:)

Anyway, they wanted to reward me for being a loyal customer, by getting me to renew my contract (just out of the blue like), strange thing was, they werent actually offering me anything to stay (what reward?)

I told the guy calling that I was aware sky would be offering bb in Ireland soon, and although I was happy enough with VF (which I am in farness) I'd be waiting to see what Sky would have to offer when they roll it out.

The VF rep didnt sound at all surprised tbh.

FWIW, I do not have UPC in my area, and currently pay sky 45 a month and VF 40 a month (phone and internet)

Jocelynel · 27-09-2012 9:36pm

my year is up with vodafone next week....so i can expect a call from them so

i signed up weeks ago on the sky website to express my interest, but so far no contact from sky...i imagine it won't be long before we hear something...

Ghandee · 27-09-2012 9:48pm

Jocelynel wrote: »

my year is up with vodafone next week....so i can expect a call from them so

i signed up weeks ago on the sky website to express my interest, but so far no contact from sky...i imagine it won't be long before we hear something...

Snap, mine expires next week.

Also registered with sky.

The Sparrow · 27-09-2012 10:03pm

+ 1 here... another Vodafone customer here waiting for the Sky offer.

I'd say that Vodafone could take a real hit.

Although, can't say I feel too sorry for them as they recently screwed me by selling me a defective phone and refusing to fix it so I have to go to the Small Claims Court.

Hurry up Sky so I can get rid of bloody Vodafone!

NeVeR · 28-09-2012 9:25am

When i heard Sky where bring out BB as well i was 100% going to move from UPC to them... Now that i read they are going to use Eircom lines there is no chance of me moving.

If you have UPC broadband ( and getting spends of 10mb+ ) there is no chance you'd move to Eircom,

I know Sky are losing business to UPC as UPC has TV and fast BB, ( I tell the sales person this every time they call to my door ) But Sky thinking people will move to Sky if they have ****ty Eircom internet to sell they are wrong. I'm sure they will get a few people signing up that don't know what they are getting.

Does Sky have any other options / way to supply BB to Irish customers ? maybe Satellite BB ? not sure of the cost of it.

bealtine · 28-09-2012 9:30am

NeVeR wrote: »

Does Sky have any other options / way to supply BB to Irish customers ? maybe Satellite BB ? not sure of the cost of it.

Satellite can never be broadband, contrary to what the satellite pimpers say, so the answer to your question is no Sky have no other options except to use BT's lines and possibly eircom where BT do not reach as BT is only in 80 or so exchanges.

Ghandee · 28-09-2012 10:48am

bealtine wrote: »

Satellite can never be broadband, contrary to what the satellite pimpers say, so the answer to your question is no Sky have no other options except to use BT's lines and possibly eircom where BT do not reach as BT is only in 80 or so exchanges.

In lay mans terms please.

If, what I'm currently on with vf and sky (85 p/m) the only benefit I'd see by changing to sky for everything would be a possible price reduction?

Correct?

bealtine · 28-09-2012 11:01am

Ghandee wrote: »

In lay mans terms please.

If, what I'm currently on with vf and sky (85 p/m) the only benefit I'd see by changing to sky for everything would be a possible price reduction?

Correct?

The deal sky signed was with BT for BT to provide LLU services for sky broadband. That's all we really know for sure.

Below is an "educated" guess:

Where BT do not provide service eircom would then provide services via bitstream (aka eircom rent the whole service (broadband and line) to the main retailer, in this case to sky via BT)

Line rental prices are set by the regulator and eircom also set the price of broadband for bitstream.

So will there be a price reduction for sky customers? Seems unlikely to me but it might reduce by a few euro.

keith_d99 · 28-09-2012 12:53pm

Ghandee wrote: »

In lay mans terms please.

If, what I'm currently on with vf and sky (85 p/m) the only benefit I'd see by changing to sky for everything would be a possible price reduction?

Correct?

And since they will be pushing Sky Anytime also - probably no download limits

harry21 · 28-09-2012 1:11pm

Thank you for registeringyour interest in Sky's Broadband and Talk services in Ireland.

We're busy working on making sure we can offer you a great value broadbandservice backed up with the levels of customer service you'd expect from Sky.

In the coming weeks we will keep you updated by email on the timings andavailability of the Broadband and Talk services in your area, and we'll makesure that you are among the first to hear about our pricing and package optionsas soon as they are announced.

Best regards,

The Sky Ireland Team

I got this today. VF rang me yesterday trying to 'save me money', but locking me into an 18 month contract. Told them no way. I'll be going to Sky asap.

The Sparrow · 28-09-2012 1:18pm

Got that email too.

As much as I'd like UPC, I don't think it is available in my area and we have Sky TV so we wouldn't get a bundled price from UPC even if it was. I believe we are in a BT LLU area as my current Vodafone package is 20mb.

So it will really be a no brainer to move to Sky assuming that their bundles are going to be reasonable.

tlaavtech · 28-09-2012 1:55pm

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PogMoThoin · 28-09-2012 1:57pm

If you can get Eircom you can get Vodafone/Digiweb/Smart/Imagine/Sky and any other bitstream resellers as they use Eircom lines

brianwalshcork · 28-09-2012 2:45pm

I registered my interest a couple of months ago, and got the

We're busy working on making sure we can offer you a great value broadband service backed up with the levels of customer service you'd expect from Sky.

In the coming weeks we will keep you updated by email on the timings and availability of the Broadband and Talk services in your area, and we'll make sure that you are among the first to hear about our pricing and package options as soon as they are announced.

mail just now.

Also got the call from a vodafone rep on wednesday.

My vodafone contract runs out at the start of January 2013.

I have a basic sky package (€20 something /month) and my vodafone bills aren't large either - (cheapest bill in the last 12 months was €57, most expensive was €76 )- and my data usage is minimal - 2.76 GB from Sept. 1st to Sept. 27th.

If Sky come in cheaper than 85/90 per month I'll be switching.

Brian

bk · 28-09-2012 3:40pm

Yes Sky will be using the same network and technology as Vodafone (the BT LLU network + probably Eircom bitstream everywhere else) so you won't see any speed improvement over your current Eircom or Vodafone service.

However you may see a small price reduction if you bundle both Sky TV and broadband together. No confirmation of this yet, but it makes sense, but we will just have to wait and see.

UPC service (where available) will continue to be much better and faster then anything Eircom/Vodafone/Sky can offer.

In the long term Sky might also use the new ESB fibre to the home network and Eircoms new FTTC/VDSL2+ network, but I wouldn't hold my breath for that, specially not if you can get UPC today.

Irish Steve · 28-09-2012 10:43pm

Is there a list anywhere of the exchanges where BT have a presence so won't need the same level of service from Eircom?

ShaunC · 01-10-2012 9:50am

Will we have to show our "property tax reciept" before we can get BB installed.:D

I'll get my coat.:p

Jocelynel · 02-02-2013 3:07pm

well...i got my bb and talk package from sky this week...everything up and running perfectly so far. they told me my line was capable of 12mb speed, currently getting 10.4 - 10.6. i'm delighted as we have only ever had 6mb to date

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