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Will there ever be a baldness cure?

  • 13-02-2013 09:55AM
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 41


    Humanity has made so many incredible inventions and discoveries since the dawn of time. Male pattern baldness has however eluded a cure.

    Do you think it will ever be cured?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Don't care cos I don't have it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭tin79


    Yes, several years ago when Regaine came on the market.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭telekon


    We don't need hair anymore anyway since central heating and hats were invented.

    Look at any image of an alien, all bald, all more advanced.

    Baldness is just a sign of the advancement of the human race. Its a good thing OP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,037 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    ever is such a long time

    but i would still say no

    happy?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 41 Time to go mobile


    I think some people underestimate how devastating it can be to some men. I reckon many men have killed themselves due to baldness.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,506 ✭✭✭lil'bug


    yes its called a wig


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭Fromthetrees


    tin79 wrote: »
    Yes, several years ago when Regaine came on the market.

    There's also a pill you can take called Propecia that can stop it.

    There's also the hair transplant route which although expensive works fairly well. Wayne Rooney, James Nesbitt, Louis Walsh et al. I know you can't polish a turd but look at their hair.

    Op, there essentially is 3 cures for baldness in the age we live in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Baldness is the cure for hair Danielson.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭tin79


    There's also a pill you can take called Propecia that can stop it.

    There's also the hair transplant route which although expensive works fairly well. Wayne Rooney, James Nesbitt, Louis Walsh et al. I know you can't polish a turd but look at their hair.

    Op, there essentially is 3 cures for baldness in the age we live in.

    You know your stuff baldy :D

    (former baldy maybe!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    There will probably be something you can take to delay or inhibits its onset - preventing it from occurring - but most likely it won't be possible to "cure" it. As best I understand, the follicles in the bald man's scalp start to die and once that's happened there's basically nothing you can do to reverse it.

    Your problem with finding ways to inhibit it is that for standard baldness it's caused by hormones. And if you screw with hormones to prevent one thing, you'll find yourself messing with other things, most likely issues with reduced libido and erectile dysfunction.

    I think most men's woe about baldness isn't that they think they'll look ugly without hair, it's that baldness is associated with age, so going bald is just a reminder that you're getting old.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    I think some people underestimate how devastating it can be to some men. I reckon many men have killed themselves due to baldness.


    Really? I was gonna make a smart-ass comment about hats being a cure for baldness but won't now.

    Surely, in these cases, baldness is just one aspect of deeper troubles. Most fellas who go bald, accept it and shave the rest rock that look! Although, I imagine, the few years where you're going from full head of hair to baldy could be traumatic. If it happened to me I'd shave it all straight away and never look back.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,015 ✭✭✭CreepingDeath


    telekon wrote: »
    Baldness is just a sign of the advancement of the human race.

    It's part for evolutions "use it or lose it" rule.

    Although female sexual selection is much more of a deciding factor in keeping the genes for good hair going than evolution.

    If women keep selectively choosing men with hair, then they're selectively breeding hairy men.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 638 ✭✭✭flanders1979


    A friend of mine said to me one day..
    "Nothing covers a bald patch like a porsche 911".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭stateofflux


    if there was a cure we would'nt have cool mofo's such as yul brynner, kojak.

    ..oh and crystal maze guy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 986 ✭✭✭joe stodge


    Humanity has made so many incredible inventions and discoveries since the dawn of time. Male pattern baldness has however eluded a cure.

    Do you think it will ever be cured?
    There is a cure, it's called hair.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 655 ✭✭✭hyperborean


    If women keep selectively choosing men with hair, then they're selectively breeding hairy men.

    Its lucky that is not hair they are selecting men for, probably see men with bigger wallets as the generations go on ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭Lenin Skynard


    I think if people really cared enough, they'd figure out something or the transplants would be more common and cheaper. But honestly I think most men don't give a fiddler's about going bald unless it's at a particularly young age. It's just a part of life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,555 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    Im as bald as an egg.

    Level of does not give a fcuk: 10


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,875 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    I've not had a strain of hair in over ten years and frankly, if somebody made it grow back I'd keep shaving it.

    I reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally couldn't care less.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,306 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    seamus wrote: »
    There will probably be something you can take to delay or inhibits its onset - preventing it from occurring - but most likely it won't be possible to "cure" it. As best I understand, the follicles in the bald man's scalp start to die and once that's happened there's basically nothing you can do to reverse it.
    I'd reckon the same. It's how the prevention may work could be the problem. Like you say it's a hormonal thing and that's hard to fiddle about with. IIRC it's largely caused by a genetic weakness in the hair follicle in response to "byproducts" of testosterone(though it's untrue that bald men have more testosterone). These weak follicles are to be found at the top of the head, the hair on the sides is far less affected, hence transplants from there work. I could see gene therapy working alright. Either by switching off the weakness in the baldy areas before baldness hits, or after natures harvesters have been at work by cloning a blokes strong side hair so you don't have to transplant hair from the sides. That way you could (with expense and time) create a new full head of hair.

    I seem to recall reading somewhere that it may not be all to do with hormones, or not directly. That receding hairlines are genetic, but bald spots at the back and a general overall thinning is more down to environment and diet and maybe stress. IIRC it was a twins study. If one twin smoked for example he had less hair. Higher blood sugar, low vitamin D and fungal infections were other factors. Must dig that up. Running on what passes for my memory here. It wasn't just baldness either, it was amount of gray hairs, skin elasticity and other aging factors that were involved too.
    I think most men's woe about baldness isn't that they think they'll look ugly without hair, it's that baldness is associated with age, so going bald is just a reminder that you're getting old.
    That and I reckon another aspect might be for guys more into that choice over style too S. Blokes with hair can wear it long or short or whatever. Bald is bald pretty much.

    It varies depending on populations too. Some populations rarely go bald, whereas with others it's near a given. Those Amazon jungle dudes with their (usually jet black) Beatle hairdos seem to stay hairy for life, whereas some European populations go bald at a much higher rate. Northern Europeans seem to be more baldy than southern Europeans. Maybe more vitamin D? Here's a thought, maybe it was selected for because of vitamin D? More skin exposure to sun? Then again if that was the case women would go bald too(though they can). Europeans in general are the hairiest overall, but the most likely to lose it off the top of their heads. It's an odd one.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,448 ✭✭✭crockholm


    Comb-over,our old Irish teacher had one,covered his crown like pythagoras golden rectangle,magnificent,it was. And in a breeze it would wave to the world,bringing joy and mirth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    Men don't go bald, they just grow the hair in different parts of their bodies....ears, nostrils, back, chest, arse. The overall rate of hair production remains the same. All that happens is that the hair hormones lose all sense of location.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭Here Come The Pretzels


    Yeah, I have thought about that myself. We can send a man to the moon and grow a human ear (sort of) on a mouses back but Im still doomed to lose my hair.
    Doesnt seem right nor fair to me... F**kin mice...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    Two words: Comb over.

    Problem solved and it leaves you looking dashing.If I do say so myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    Yeah, I have thought about that myself. We can send a man to the moon and grow a human ear (sort of) on a mouses back but Im still doomed to lose my hair.
    Doesnt seem right nor fair to me... F**kin mice...

    The mouse became redundant. They can now 3D print an ear with cells or are very close to doing it.

    We will probably be printing off ears goodo before we ever get a man back on the moon.


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I hope not, I've had to put up with it, why shouldn't everyone else?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    The mouse became redundant. They can now 3D print an ear with cells or are very close to doing it.

    We will probably be printing off ears goodo before we ever get a man back on the moon.

    That's going to be very expensive. Colour cartridges cost a fortune. OK for black people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,785 ✭✭✭Ihatecuddles-old


    I love baldies :) embrace your bald heads!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,899 ✭✭✭✭BBDBB


    I love baldies :) embrace your bald heads!!


    Ha! You embrace my bald heads! :p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,875 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    Is there a reason for this OP?

    Are you bald? Does it bother you?

    Would you like some fellow baldy support?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    MugMugs wrote: »
    Is there a reason for this OP?

    Are you bald? Does it bother you?

    Would you like some fellow baldy support?


    Maybe we should put our heads together or maybe not. We'd only look like a couple of tits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,438 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Baldness is nature's way of stopping men getting stupid haircuts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭Here Come The Pretzels


    The mouse became redundant. They can now 3D print an ear with cells or are very close to doing it.

    We will probably be printing off ears goodo before we ever get a man back on the moon.


    How far along are they with 3D printing hairs on a human head?

    Seriously though, I would imagine the baldness cure would make billions for the first company to find it. Strange that its still hasnt been found.

    Having a full head of hair would have robbed Larry David of alot of his humour so its not all bad I suppose...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,521 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    Humanity has made so many incredible inventions and discoveries since the dawn of time. Male pattern baldness has however eluded a cure.

    Do you think it will ever be cured?

    Probably about the same time that we develop a cure for low self esteem.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭gobnaitolunacy


    A lot of the topical remedies won't work if the hair follicle is actually dead. The new hair growth from these I've heard is 'pubic' in appearance.
    The only other options then are transplants, a rug or shaving.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,899 ✭✭✭✭BBDBB


    Probably about the same time that we develop a cure for low self esteem.


    Oh I hope not, looking down on the under confident is one of the few pleasures left in life for the baldies


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 Hpbiea


    1970: "Scientists are onto something, cure for baldness may just be 5 - 10 years

    1980: "Rejoice baldies, cure only 5 - 10 years away"

    1990: "Breaking news: baldness cure to be on shelves within 5 - 10 years"

    2000: "Major breakthrough: scientists suggest cure for baldness within 5 - 10 years"

    2013; "Rejoice slapheads, only 5 - 10 years aware from a cure"

    2050: "Top scientists suggest cure for baldness within 5 - 10 years"

    2100: "Cure for baldness may be on shelves within 5 - 10 years.


    And 5 - 10 years on to infinity etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,963 ✭✭✭Meangadh


    I quite like bald men... so long as they keep whatever small bit of hair they have left really short. Otherwise it's not very attractive at all. But a tight hair cut for a man who's fairly thin on top can look really good.

    I have an absolute aversion to long hair on men though, so maybe that's why I don't mind bald, at least it means it's not long.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 Hpbiea


    telekon wrote: »
    We don't need hair anymore anyway since central heating and hats were invented.

    Look at any image of an alien, all bald, all more advanced.

    Baldness is just a sign of the advancement of the human race. Its a good thing OP.

    Yeah it's not all upstream, you have to invest in hats of some form both the icy chills of winter and sunburn during the sweltering heat of summer. Even the weather seems to take a disliking to us baldies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,362 ✭✭✭Sergeant


    Draw hair on your pate with a biro.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 Hpbiea


    I think some people underestimate how devastating it can be to some men. I reckon many men have killed themselves due to baldness.

    And yet we give prime time attention to women who are overweight - something they actually have control over, unlike hair loss in a man. Yet bring up the topic amongst most people and youll be told "get on with it and just bic it off", or "man the fukc up" - ironically from women or non-MPB males who don't know what they are talking about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,317 ✭✭✭patrickbrophy18


    I reckon many men have killed themselves due to baldness.

    Let's not go nuts.

    However, baldness has undoubtedly given many subjected to it, an image or identity crisis in some form or another. Understandably, people become depressed as a result.

    Having said that, science has come a long way in making cures or treatments to male pattern baldness. In fact, male pattern baldness is caused by a chemical called DHT or Di-Hydro-Testosterone which essentially strangles the hair follicles at their root until they die. At the rate science is progressing in this matter alone, I am fairly confident that there will be an all around cure for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,880 ✭✭✭razorgil


    hen-**** and diesel. that was the one my uncle swore by. rub that concoction onto your scalp every morning and you'd never go bald. he died with a full head of hair. (at least i think it was hair....)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 Hpbiea


    if there was a cure we would'nt have cool mofo's such as yul brynner, kojak.

    ..oh and crystal maze guy

    Whenever I hear the likes of Yul Brynner, Bruce Willis, Jason Stratham brought up in conversations such as this I am immediately brought back to that South Park episode where all the children are debating the greatness of been a ginger and all the great things gingers have done.

    "There's plenty of gingers who have been a good example.....like Ron Howard..."

    "Any other suggestions?"

    "Eh,,... Ron Howard..,,"!


    You get the idea, a few celebrities can pull off the look, but truth be told, 99% of blokes with this condition. absolutely despise it, and would do anything to reverse it.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,306 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Hpbiea wrote: »
    Whenever I hear the likes of Yul Brynner, Bruce Willis, Jason Stratham brought up in conversations such as this I am immediately brought back to that South Park episode where all the children are debating the greatness of been a ginger and all the great things gingers have done.
    +1. Like bald guys comparing themselves to Sean Connery. Eh no folks, Sean is and was a very handsome man, hair optional. Another one is older blokes reckoning I'm a grey fox like George Clooney... Hahhahahhahah. No. I can sing in the shower, it doesn't make me Pavarotti

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,716 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    Cures don't make money, a life time of buying medication makes money. So no there will never be a cure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    There is a cure, for the most part. Finasteride works for something like 80%+ of men and maintains their hairline when they start indefinitely. So with a combination of that and Regaine, you're more or less sorted. Also there's hair transplants which look great but that's more reconstructing rather than just keeping hair, so it does require having to loose a lot of your hair to begin with...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,739 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    the cure will come when bald men realise that no-one fúcking cares if you're bald or not. Seriously, no-one else give a shít; stop wearing wigs, doing stupid comb-overs, and giving money to the likes of Regain. Own your baldness.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 41 Time to go mobile


    kylith wrote: »
    the cure will come when bald men realise that no-one fúcking cares if you're bald or not. Seriously, no-one else give a shít; stop wearing wigs, doing stupid comb-overs, and giving money to the likes of Regain. Own your baldness.

    Some people look terrible bald though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,739 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Some people look terrible bald though.

    I've never seen anyone who looks worse bald than with a comb over. Most of the men in my family are bald, all have weird shaped heads, and all of them look better shiny-pated than they did when they were clinging on to the remains of their hair.


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