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HEC SF: ASM Clermont Auvergne vs Munster Rugby, 27 April 5pm SS1 *Warning post 149*

  • 26-04-2013 12:00PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭


    Clermont.pngDublin_2013_Banners-02.jpg-small-466x312.jpgMunster.png

    Clermont:
    15 Lee Byrne, 14 Sitiveni Sivivatu, 13 Regan King, 12 Wesley Fofana, 11 Naipolioni Nalaga, 10 Brock James, 9 Morgan Parra,
    8 Damien Chouly, 7 Julien Bardy, 6 Julien Bonnaire, 5 Nathan Hines, 4 Jamie Cudmore, 3 Davit Zirakashvili, 2 Benjamin Kayser, 1 Thomas Domingo.

    Replacements: 16 Ti'i Paulo, 17 Vincent Debaty, 18 Clement Ric, 19 Julien Pierre, 20 Alexandre Lapandry, 21 Ludovic Radosavljevic, 22 Jean Marcel Buttin, 23 Noa Nakaitaci or David Skrela.

    Munster:
    15 Felix Jones, 14 , 13 Casey Laulala, 12 James Downey, 11 Simon Zebo, 10 Ronan O'Gara, 9 Conor Murray,
    8 James Coughlan, 7 Tommy O'Donnell, 6 Peter O'Mahony, 5 Paul O'Connell (c), 4 Donnacha Ryan, 3 BJ Botha, 2 Mike Sherry, 1 David Kilcoyne.

    Replacements: 16 Damien Varley, 17 Wian du Preez, 18 John Ryan, 19 Billy Holland, 20 Paddy Butler, 21 Cathal Sheridan, 22 Ian Keatley, 23 Denis Hurley.

    Date: Saturday 27th April
    Venue: Stade de la Mosson, Montpellier
    Kick-off: 5pm (6pm French time)
    Weather: 15° C. Light morning rain but clearing by kick-off.
    Referee: Nigel Owens (Wales)
    Assistant referees: Ian Davies (Wales)

    The hugely anticipated semi-final is finally here! French powerhouses Clermont Auvergne will host Munster in the coastal city of Montpellier. The French side have been the bridesmaids of this competition for many years, with successive strong sides failing to make even the final of the European rugby's premier tournament. However, one feels that this could be their year as they are comfortable favourites to defeat the Irish province.

    In a recent column in Midi Olymique, former French international and Italy coach Pierre Villepreux described Clermont Auvergne's style of play as a "driving force in the modern game". Certainly les jaunards have the propensity to entertain while engaging in a winning brand of rugby. When on form, they use their star performers to the maximum effect, we don't see talents like Wesley Fofana wasted on the wing like with the French national team.

    Munster's season was turned on its head with the win over Harlequins. While they did qualify from their Heineken Cup pool, the performances didn't inspire much hope in further progression. The Pro12 results left a lot to be desired, including losses to both Scarlets and Cardiff in Cork. Munster's performance at the Stoop harkened back to the performances of old, a dominant physical display accompanied by a controlling presence at flyhalf.

    SELECTIONS
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    Both Brock James and Keith Earls return from injury to start this game.

    For Clermont, injuries to key men Rougerie and Vosloo have forced Clermont into a number of changes. Portugese international Julien Bardy starts at flanker while Regan King comes in at outside centre. Brock James has been declared fit and will start at flyhalf, with the availability of David Skrela as a replacement yet to be determined.

    Of the injury doubts for Munster, only captain Doug Howlett and Donncha O'Callaghan are unavailable as O'Mahony, Downey and Earls are all named in the starting lineup. Stephen Archer is injured so John Ryan steps up to the bench as the replacement tighthead prop. Billy Holland takes the bench place instead of O'Callaghan.
    KEY BATTLE: Fofana & King vs. Downey & Laulala
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    The centre battle is set to be an important deciding factor in the outcome of this game. Wesley Fofana is simply on fire and is probably the form centre in the world at the moment. Last weekend against Toulouse, he once again showed what he is capable, scoring a fantastic individual try within 40 seconds of the kickoff. He seems to possess all the attributes of a great attacking player. He has great pace and acceleration, along with being evasive due to his step and upper body strength. The former Scarlet Regan King comes in for the injured Aurelien Rougerie and offers a different skillset to the Clermont captain. He doesn't possess the brute strength of Rougerie but is a creative player that the likes of Fofana and Sivivatu can feed off.

    Munster's centre partnership of Downey and Laulala is one that has never consistently performed this season. Munster's use of James Downey in attack has come under much question, with Downey only occasionally used as a crash ball merchant that his size supports. Laulala possesses soft handling skills but often he has cheaply given away possession due to wrongly timed passes or offloads. Also while both players are effective tacklers, their defence has been suspect at times this season. The midfield defence must be watertight or Clermont's attack will cut Munster apart.

    HOW CAN MUNSTER WIN?
    In the quarter-final three weeks ago, Montpellier were able to gain a 9-3 lead in the first 20 minutes by imposing themselves physically in both open play and the set-piece. In the cauldron of Stade Marcel-Michelin, Montpellier were able to dominate the opening exchanges. However when their flyhalf Francois Trinh-Duc went off injured they seemed to lose all shape and the Clermont juggernaut steamrollered Montpellier for the rest of match.

    Munster must display a physical endeavour that is above the level showed against Harlequins, Clermont have the 'enforcer' figures like Cudmore and Hines that won't allow their pack to fold as easily as Harlequins. Paul O'Connell and Donnacha Ryan will feel confident in their ability to compete at the lineout and that is an area that Munster must dominate. No team can display consistency in attack if the source of possession is messy. Given Clermont's strength in depth on the bench, with strong ball carriers like Paulo and Debaty ready to enter the fray late in the second half, Munster must be in the lead with twenty minutes to go. They lack the cohesive back play to be chasing a game where they are struggling up front. The much fabled Munster "belief" and "pride" that has been marketed to death must be in full display if Munster want to compete.

    PREDICTION:
    Munster know full well that they must put in their best performance of the season to even compete with Clermont. The return of Brock James means Clermont will have a steady and controlling influence at flyhalf that can dominate with a strong kicking game, a Plan B should Munster somehow be able to shutdown their brilliant backline. Both sides have 'cup rugby' experience in abundance and should be mentally prepared for what is set to be a fantastic occasion to rival that in Bordeaux last season. Should both sides turn up, there can be only one winner. On paper, Clermont are stronger in most positions and the impact of the bench will be telling. Clermont should win comfortably with a late score or two to put a gloss on the scoreline; a strong Munster performance will not be reflected by the final scoreline. Clermont 25-6 Munster

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    Stade de la Mosson, Montpellier


    Player images - INPHO Photgraphy, Getty Images.
    Heineken Cup logo - copyright European Rugby Cup Ltd
    Munster logo - copyright Irish Rugby Football Union 2013
    ASM Clermont logo - copyright L'ASM Clermont Auvergne 2013
    Stadium photo - from www.touslesstades.fr

    Prediction? 48 votes

    Clermont Auvergne
    0%
    Munster
    47%
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    Munster would win if John Hayes was playing...
    52%
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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,661 ✭✭✭✭phog


    About to head out to lunch and haven't time to read it just to say G'wan Munster

    Believe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭rchendz92


    Good luck to Munster. I always support the other provinces unless they're playing Ulster, but this is the most supportive I've felt since Leinster-Saints in Cardiff. Miracles happened then. Hoping they do tomorrow as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,288 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    I think 25-6 is overstating it. Im hoping Munster win it but Id go for a 17-12


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    I think 25-6 is overstating it. Im hoping Munster win it but Id go for a 17-12

    The way I see it is it will be something like five points to Clermont with 20 minutes to go, but I can see them finishing strongly in the last quarter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭Quint2010


    Munster
    No Vosloo or Rougerie weakens Clermont but not enough I suspect. Munster will target Clermont's line-out but all over the pitch Clermont look a good deal stronger. Still-its 15 men against 15 men so anything could happen.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,407 ✭✭✭✭justsomebloke


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    I think 25-6 is overstating it. Im hoping Munster win it but Id go for a 17-12

    It is the semi final of the HEC cup. If Munster are behind with only 10 minutes left, they are going to have to throw the kitchen sink at Clermont and with that gaps may open for Clermont.

    Munster have nothing to gain from a close loss so they could easily end up losing by more by trying to win, but at this stage of the comp they have to


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,234 ✭✭✭totallegend


    Munster
    The most important aspect could be:

    Clermont replacements: 16 Ti'i Paulo, 17 Vincent Debaty, 18 Clement Ric, 19 Julien Pierre, 20 Alexandre Lapandry, 21 Ludovic Radosavljevic, 22 Jean Marcel Buttin, 23 Noa Nakaitaci or David Skrela.

    Munster replacements: 16 Damien Varley, 17 Wian du Preez, 18 John Ryan, 19 Billy Holland, 20 Paddy Butler, 21 Cathal Sheridan, 22 Ian Keatley, 23 Denis Hurley.

    That's not a gulf in class, it's an ocean. Munster are going to need most of their starting XV to play 80 minutes, IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    The loss of Rougerie and Vosloo is worth 5 points to Munster. Bardy is a decent player but can be gotten at. His discipline is suspect. Also, he has only started 1 game in 3 months which was the QF where he was a passenger.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,906 ✭✭✭jamiedav2011


    The most important aspect could be:

    Clermont replacements: 16 Ti'i Paulo, 17 Vincent Debaty, 18 Clement Ric, 19 Julien Pierre, 20 Alexandre Lapandry, 21 Ludovic Radosavljevic, 22 Jean Marcel Buttin, 23 Noa Nakaitaci or David Skrela.

    Munster replacements: 16 Damien Varley, 17 Wian du Preez, 18 John Ryan, 19 Billy Holland, 20 Paddy Butler, 21 Cathal Sheridan, 22 Ian Keatley, 23 Denis Hurley.

    That's not a gulf in class, it's an ocean. Munster are going to need most of their starting XV to play 80 minutes, IMO.

    Leinster brought on 5 subs in Bordeaux last year, including a triple at the 63 min mark, and Reddan and VDM in the 52nd.

    Clermont brought on 7.

    Realistically, only Varley, Keatley, Hurley and possibly Du Preez would be up to the level of a HEC semi at this stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,661 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Munster have arrived.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,612 ✭✭✭Lelantos


    Munster would win if John Hayes was playing...
    The most important aspect could be:

    Clermont replacements: 16 Ti'i Paulo, 17 Vincent Debaty, 18 Clement Ric, 19 Julien Pierre, 20 Alexandre Lapandry, 21 Ludovic Radosavljevic, 22 Jean Marcel Buttin, 23 Noa Nakaitaci or David Skrela.

    Munster replacements: 16 Damien Varley, 17 Wian du Preez, 18 John Ryan, 19 Billy Holland, 20 Paddy Butler, 21 Cathal Sheridan, 22 Ian Keatley, 23 Denis Hurley.

    That's not a gulf in class, it's an ocean. Munster are going to need most of their starting XV to play 80 minutes, IMO.
    Biggest game of the season for BJ, he needs to get the full 80, but there are some good subs to bring on there, duPreez, Keats, Varley (with straight arrows) I'm not as pessimistic as some here, we have a punchers chance as they say .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭ssaye


    Someone on MF, a munster fan saying anyone hear an issue about POC, one relieable user confirming an issue not sure if good or bad


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,781 ✭✭✭eyeball kid


    ssaye wrote: »
    Someone on MF, a munster fan saying anyone hear an issue about POC, one relieable user confirming an issue not sure if good or bad

    They might as well get the next flight home if POC can't play. Hopefully there is no truth to it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭shuffol


    Lelantos wrote: »
    Biggest game of the season for BJ, he needs to get the full 80, but there are some good subs to bring on there, duPreez, Keats, Varley (with straight arrows) I'm not as pessimistic as some here, we have a punchers chance as they say .

    Varley is one guy I wouldnt like to be relying on in a game of this magnitude.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭ssaye


    They might as well get the next flight home if POC can't play. Hopefully there is no truth to it.

    Holland in would be a bit of a nightmare alright.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Maybe POC's finally been cited....












    :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭ssaye




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,340 ✭✭✭yimrsg


    I don't think Munster are capable of mimicing what Montpellier did well for the first 20 minutes for two main reasons. Their forwards aren't powerful enough and they don't possess a 10 like Trinh-Duc who attacks the gain line and offers a passing threat. Montpellier's plan was to keep the ball with the forwards to suck in the Clermont pack and then rapidly spread the play to the backs who then make ground out wide. Trying to overpower a Clermont pack over the 80 minutes isn't going to work as even players like Gorgodze, Ouedrago and Tolou ran out of steam.

    Montpellier's plan fell apart due to Trinh-Duc's injury and meant that they couldn't spread the play as well whilst offering a running threat so Clermont came back into it, had he not been injured I think Clermont were in trouble. ROG will probably kick in behind the wingers and try winning or spoiling the opposition lineout will be the order of the day.

    Upsetting Clermont's lineout is probably where Munster can find the most success. Clermont have two good lineout jumpers in Pierre and Lapandry on the bench should they need extra options. The problem is kicking away possession could be costly as Clermont have 3 excellent strike runners in Fofana, Nalanga and Sivivatu who are capable of scoring from anywhere. These 3 have been scoring for fun and won't be lacking confidence.

    For Munster to have any hope they need get into the lead and to be ahead come 60 minutes and hang on in there for as long as they can. I just think the areas where Munster are the better side over Clermont are too few and can't see them coming away with a victory even against a Clermont side with a couple of key players missing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭Tomtom364


    Munster would win if John Hayes was playing...
    Although due to injury, the back three is actually probably the fastest back three Munster have had for awhile.

    Munster need to play an abrasive forwards game but the occasions the ball does go to the backs, with Earls in bringing more balance between the wings pace with Zebo, if they can pick up good lines off Laulala Munster may actually get some good breaks there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭vkid


    Cant wait but nervous as hell. Butterflies in the stomach all week and that hasnt happened for a while


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,059 ✭✭✭✭2smiggy


    Munster would win if John Hayes was playing...
    i agree ,

    the back three has real pace to it and we could have an advantage there once they make their tackles. not easy i know, but at least they won't be burned for pace.

    all in all i'm feeling alot more confident about the match than i have for the last week or so. the longer we can keep out 1st 15 on the pitch is vital. 1 or 2 injuries early in the match and we are probably doomed.

    @ 7 at the moment on betfair at the moment , it's a good trading price, also munster were 8.5 and more on the exchange, so the injury news has seen money coming in on munster.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,234 ✭✭✭trouttrout


    Can't wait for this. Heart says we can do it but head is struggling to figure out how it will happen

    Basically we need all of ROG, POC, Murray, Zebo, Earls Cawlin and POM to have absolute stormers while hoping Clermont somehow get the yips

    We can certainly cause problems for them at the lineout but I fear for our scrum


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    Maybe POC can really get into Cudmore and get him sent off?. THink this will be tight first half certainly. Hopefully though Munster will be celebrating at the end and we will all be shouting ZEBBBOOO!!!.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,448 ✭✭✭Garseys


    Munster
    Munster will need a miracle to come out of this semi. I still think that Clermont are going to be Champions (it would be an injustice if they didn't win.)

    May the best team win on the day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,234 ✭✭✭trouttrout


    Garseys wrote: »
    Munster will need a miracle to come out of this semi. I still think that Clermont are going to be Champions (it would be an injustice if they didn't win.)

    May the best team win on the day.

    It wouldn't really! If they don't win it it's down to them!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,669 ✭✭✭who_me


    I don't remember Munster being underdogs like this in a looong time. Probably actually the last time we played Clermont in SMM!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭duckysauce


    Munster would win if John Hayes was playing...
    Garseys wrote: »
    Munster will need a miracle to come out of this semi. I still think that Clermont are going to be Champions (it would be an injustice if they didn't win.)

    May the best team win on the day.

    how would it be an injustice ?????? nobody is entitled to win , that's what sports is about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 817 ✭✭✭Chabals Beard


    Munster would win if John Hayes was playing...
    What I would give to be in France for this one. Give them hell lads


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Tomorrow is going to be a slow day till 5pm, I just know it. :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Tomorrow is going to be a slow day till 5pm, I just know it. :(

    Minor issue of the might Amlin might help things move quicker


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,612 ✭✭✭Lelantos


    Munster would win if John Hayes was playing...
    Tomorrow is going to be a slow day till 5pm, I just know it. :(

    You're welcome to come babysit my lot if you wish, they'll keep you very busy until 5 ;)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,278 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    Franno on The Last Word today was talking Munster up pretty well, he thinks you're going to win.

    I'd be optimistic too I have to say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    CatFromHue wrote: »
    Franno on The Last Word today was talking Munster up pretty well, he thinks you're going to win.

    I'd be optimistic too I have to say.

    Yet he said he wouldn't release our backs on parole! :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭donfers


    I am nervous about this one

    I think their scrum will win them plenty of pens and they'll build up a nice 9-12 point lead which will force us to take more risks and be more expansive which perhaps is not our strength

    I am nervous because it could be a big anti complex a la biarritz a few years back and we are beaten comfortably or we'll give the performance of our lives and come narrowly short

    either way I forsee pain.....the euphoria of a win is just not entering my head at the moment, if it actually happened i may well combust


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,669 ✭✭✭who_me


    CatFromHue wrote: »
    Franno on The Last Word today was talking Munster up pretty well, he thinks you're going to win.

    I'd be optimistic too I have to say.

    As long as Hook doesn't back us, we still have a chance...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,661 ✭✭✭✭phog


    If our senior team play like our A team did this evening then it's curtains for us.

    I still can't see us win but we need to be on top of our game and cut out the stupid errors.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,669 ✭✭✭who_me


    duckysauce wrote: »
    how would it be an injustice ?????? nobody is entitled to win , that's what sports is about.

    Exactly. They're undoubtedly the best team in the competition, but this is cup rugby, not a charity. If you want "fair" watch a league game instead. :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 854 ✭✭✭RoundBox11


    Munster
    Munster clearly underdogs here.

    The only thing munster have in their favor (and something that is often mocked online) is the added aspect of pride for their province. One thing with Munster is the red is almost as important as the green to them and that has pushed them the extra few inches in the past. Hopefully POC can get the most out of the lads and get a tough performance out of them, regardless of the score.

    As I said I know a lot of people mock the idea of pride being a factor at the professional level but I'm sure a lot of us have been in a sporting position where that pride and doggedness has made the difference.

    I may not be the biggest munster fan out there but I'll be cheering the lads on come saturday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 138 ✭✭Catalpa1


    Munster
    Lets Cover ALL possible angles particularly after the drinks on Good Friday debacle :D


    "is there anything to be said for saying another mass"




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭Fireball07


    Munster
    Well.....


    I've just been in hospital for the week, slightly surreal, missed the build-up for the match. But now I can feel the tension rising, already sick with nerves.....and this is for a match that looks like a foregone conclusion.

    Clermont are good. They are very very good, you could nearly say they outclass us all over the pitch. And not only are they talented, they are in good form too, and look capable of blowing most teams away.


    As for us.....it's been a weird season, we've been fairly awful for large parts of it...but in the Heineken Cup, we've produced dogged performances, performances that fans can be proud of...overcome the odds in some circumstances.

    We've seen flashes of brilliance...Zebo has been electric this season, Conor Murray has matured into an excellent scrum-half and has controlled games for us. POM has been inspirational, TOD has come back this season with an extra spring in his step and has showed himself capable of performances many didn't think he had in him. Coughlan has been his consistently excellent self, Sherry has obviously been reading the Fla darts handbook while Killer has proved to be a huge bonus, bringing top-class ball-carrying ability.

    And we've seen POC, amidst rumours of him never playing again, return....and inspirationally lead us to victory against a fancied Quins side in the Stoop. A little bit of controversy along the way, but I think we're all glad that POC is present and will bring his leadership, aggression and intensity to this game.






    I don't know if we can win. Probably not, to be quite honest. They're bigger, better, stronger, faster....maybe 3 of our players would make their team. Their bench is waaaaaaay stronger, and will probably blow us away in the final 20 minutes. The only way I can see us winning is with an extraordinary amount of luck, heroic defence, mistakes in crucial areas from them and poor kicking from the tee.....along with us taking every opportunity.

    It's one thing asking for that against Quins, it's another thing against a machine like Clermont. It's probably impossible........I just want us to fight, to allow us be proud of the performance....and yet....a loss will hurt no matter how well we play. Chances of us winning are very very small but you've always got to hope. Without hope, the whole thing is pointless.....even if you have resigned yourself to defeat, you have that tiny glimmer of hope that you can't quench.....something special could happen...even if you don't really believe it.


    Tomorrow has to be one of those special days......I've rambled on an awful long time, must be the drugs so I'll just end by saying:












    HON MUNSTER!!!!!!!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,637 ✭✭✭CoDy1


    Munster would win if John Hayes was playing...
    Fireball07 wrote: »
    Well.....


    I've just been in hospital for the week, slightly surreal, missed the build-up for the match. But now I can feel the tension rising, already sick with nerves.....and this is for a match that looks like a foregone conclusion.

    Clermont are good. They are very very good, you could nearly say they outclass us all over the pitch. And not only are they talented, they are in good form too, and look capable of blowing most teams away.


    As for us.....it's been a weird season, we've been fairly awful for large parts of it...but in the Heineken Cup, we've produced dogged performances, performances that fans can be proud of...overcome the odds in some circumstances.

    We've seen flashes of brilliance...Zebo has been electric this season, Conor Murray has matured into an excellent scrum-half and has controlled games for us. POM has been inspirational, TOD has come back this season with an extra spring in his step and has showed himself capable of performances many didn't think he had in him. Coughlan has been his consistently excellent self, Sherry has obviously been reading the Fla darts handbook while Killer has proved to be a huge bonus, bringing top-class ball-carrying ability.

    And we've seen POC, amidst rumours of him never playing again, return....and inspirationally lead us to victory against a fancied Quins side in the Stoop. A little bit of controversy along the way, but I think we're all glad that POC is present and will bring his leadership, aggression and intensity to this game.






    I don't know if we can win. Probably not, to be quite honest. They're bigger, better, stronger, faster....maybe 3 of our players would make their team. Their bench is waaaaaaay stronger, and will probably blow us away in the final 20 minutes. The only way I can see us winning is with an extraordinary amount of luck, heroic defence, mistakes in crucial areas from them and poor kicking from the tee.....along with us taking every opportunity.

    It's one thing asking for that against Quins, it's another thing against a machine like Clermont. It's probably impossible........I just want us to fight, to allow us be proud of the performance....and yet....a loss will hurt no matter how well we play. Chances of us winning are very very small but you've always got to hope. Without hope, the whole thing is pointless.....even if you have resigned yourself to defeat, you have that tiny glimmer of hope that you can't quench.....something special could happen...even if you don't really believe it.


    Tomorrow has to be one of those special days......I've rambled on an awful long time, must be the drugs so I'll just end by saying:












    HON MUNSTER!!!!!!!!!

    Couldn't have put it better myself. Last time I felt like this was when I had some ****ty exam the next morning. Did **** all study to deserve to pass it, sat down to do it not thinking I had a chance in hell to pass it but in the end managed to pass it, just about.

    Same again please!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,612 ✭✭✭Lelantos


    Munster would win if John Hayes was playing...
    Conor George in the Indo tipping Munster.
    Kiss. Of. Death.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Benny Cake


    Munster would win if John Hayes was playing...
    Munster by a nose.

    But only if Paulie dominates the coin toss, obivously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,448 ✭✭✭Garseys


    Munster
    trouttrout wrote: »
    It wouldn't really! If they don't win it it's down to them!
    duckysauce wrote: »
    how would it be an injustice ?????? nobody is entitled to win , that's what sports is about.

    My way of thinking is that the best side in the Heineken Cup stumble again at the Semi especially how dominant they've been all tournament

    but as you said it's up to their drive and determination and who is the better team at the end of it.

    Either way I don't see the winner coming from the Sarries/Toulon semi.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,234 ✭✭✭trouttrout


    Cannot wait................Jesus I'm nervous


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,308 ✭✭✭✭.ak


    Any word on POC?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭Quint2010


    Munster
    .ak wrote: »
    Any word on POC?

    Tall, pretty much bald, great rugby player and no stranger to controversy...:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    Munster would win if John Hayes was playing...
    The next few hours are going to crawl by where as the 80 will fly. I feel ill.

    To the brave and the faithful nothing is impossible.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,612 ✭✭✭Lelantos


    Munster would win if John Hayes was playing...
    The Indo reporting someone set the fire alarm off in the team hotel, a couple of Clermont fans working in accommodation I guess ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,499 ✭✭✭Sabre0001


    Equal parts incredibly excited...and sick!

    🤪



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