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Vermin control shooting, do's and don'ts?

  • 18-05-2013 06:50PM
    #1
    dc99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 376 ✭✭


    Hi
    I'm leaning toward getting a .22 rifle and can get land permission fairly easily.

    I have a few (well a lot) of questions.

    Is there a sticky I can find here that gives me a few heads up?

    How much land would the owner giving permission need to be to be viable for a licence?

    What is considered vermin? Rabbits, foxes, badgers? what else - I've heard crows, but not sure. Is there 'seasons' for each or is it year round?

    This kinda thing.

    I'm new to this and don't have a rifle licence yet so am in research mode ?

    Regards,


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  • #2
    wildfowler94
    Closed Accounts Posts: 812 ✭✭✭wildfowler94


    better research what can be shot, because badgers aint one.


  • #3
    Birdnuts
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    Scroll down through the posts in the link below to see the current legal situation.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055315625


  • #4
    garv123
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    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055315625

    Post 3 & 4 here will tell you what you can and can't shoot.


    with a .22 you can shoot rabbits, rats and mink. You can also shoot foxes but they would have to be at closer range with good shot placement. Badgers would be a big NO.
    You can shoot rooks, jackdaw, grew crow, magpie and pigeons if they are causing damage to crops or livestock all year round. 2 pigeons in a stubble field is not damage to crops though.

    Land size varies, The norm is to get 3 farmers to sign permission with the amount of land they have written on the it. I had 100 acres per farmer on mine but 100 acres in total was enough for others


  • #5
    garv123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭garv123


    wildfowler94 wrote: »
    better research what can be shot, because badgers aint one.

    Pretty sure that's what he's doing..


  • #6
    session savage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 865 ✭✭✭session savage


    wildfowler94 wrote: »
    better research what can be shot, because badgers aint one.

    Which is exactly what he seems to be here for


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  • #7
    One shot on kill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,248 ✭✭✭One shot on kill


    A 22 is great fun you will love it.
    Infairness garv covered most of it there I would advise you to try getting a hunter in your local area and try get out with someone, you will learn a hell of a lot more and quicker.
    Any experience with firearms ????


  • #8
    deeksofdoom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,031 ✭✭✭deeksofdoom


    Do's and don't of vermin shooting, now that could make an interesting topic.

    In the context of lamping;
    Do's
    Do get yourself a high powered lamp.

    Don't
    Don't shine it into peoples houses garden or in their general direction that would get you noticed/ piss people off/ get you in trouble.
    Don't shine the lamp towards any roads.

    I think you'll find there are more don'ts than there are do's.


  • #9
    Longranger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 961 ✭✭✭Longranger


    +1
    Do ensure you have the right calibre for the quarry in question. No point in going after charlie at 250 yards with a .22lr.
    Do use a moderator. Not a great idea to make too much noise at 3 in the morning if there are houses around.
    Do get practice on the lamp. It'll make it much easier to pick foxes eyes from other eyes!

    Don't forget your camo. Even in very poor light you'll stick out like a sore thumb in you bright red goretex hiking jacket.
    Don't shoot from,or in the direction of road.
    Don't forget,looking through the scope in lamp-light,ranging can be VERY different to shooting in daylight.


  • #10
    superlite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭superlite


    garv123 wrote: »
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055315625

    Post 3 & 4 here will tell you what you can and can't shoot.


    with a .22 you can shoot rabbits, rats and mink. You can also shoot foxes but they would have to be at closer range with good shot placement. Badgers would be a big NO.
    You can shoot rooks, jackdaw, grew crow, magpie and pigeons if they are causing damage to crops or livestock all year round. 2 pigeons in a stubble field is not damage to crops though.

    Land size varies, The norm is to get 3 farmers to sign permission with the amount of land they have written on the it. I had 100 acres per farmer on mine but 100 acres in total was enough for others

    Hi Garv,
    I thought the current position with regard to shooting pigeons under derogation was that you can shoot over stubble, and as many as you like, once the farmer knows you are there. There used to be an article on NARGC website with regard to a case where a lad had his guns taken off him for shooting over stubble which he then won with the help of the NARGC.
    Correct me if I'm wrong as I don't want to loose my guns


  • #11
    garv123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭garv123


    superlite wrote: »
    Hi Garv,
    I thought the current position with regard to shooting pigeons under derogation was that you can shoot over stubble, and as many as you like, once the farmer knows you are there. There used to be an article on NARGC website with regard to a case where a lad had his guns taken off him for shooting over stubble which he then won with the help of the NARGC.
    Correct me if I'm wrong as I don't want to loose my guns

    It came up here a few times, people seem to say its ok to do so when shooting over stubble if there is crops near by belong to the farmer or crops in the next field, it doesnt say anywhere you have to be in the exact field... shooting in a stubble field thats surrounded for miles by grass isn't protecting anythong.


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  • #12
    superlite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭superlite


    garv123 wrote: »
    It came up here a few times, people seem to say its ok to do so when shooting over stubble if there is crops near by belong to the farmer or crops in the next field, it doesnt say anywhere you have to be in the exact field... shooting in a stubble field thats surrounded for miles by grass isn't protecting anythong.

    If I shoot a pigeon in a green field, stubble field with no crop around miles I am still protecting the nearest crop from that pigeon as it will no longer cause damage. The whole point of the derogation laws is to prevent damage.

    Have a read of this, a bit long winded but explains it clearly.

    http://www.nargc.ie/predator-control/pigeon-control-on-stubble-the-legal-position.aspx


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