High End Car with low tax???under 22k

Browndog82 · 27-05-2013 03:32PM #1

Looking for an Audi, Merc, BMW but must have the foloowing spec!!!
Hoping someone can help me out as Im going mad looking for it .. cant find one with low car tax ie low c02 emissions....
So here are the essentials:

Automatic Transmission
Saloon
Diesel
Budget: up to €22k
Max Engine Size 2.2l
Year 2008 -2010

Thanks in advance
browndog

R.O.R · 27-05-2013 03:35PM

What do you class as low emissions? Should be plenty of BMW's that come in that range. Some may cost as much as a massive €390 a year to tax though.

Audi and Merc weren't quite as quick to get decent CO2 on Auto's if memory serves me correctly.

Browndog82 · 27-05-2013 03:37PM

Well I have "heard" the car tax can be as low as €200 but Id also settle for 390 as thats nearly at the same level as my current ford focus

fletch · 27-05-2013 03:42PM

Why specify the engine size and low tax?

Browndog82 · 27-05-2013 03:46PM

i wanted to narrow the recomendations as much as possible

Viper_JB · 27-05-2013 03:48PM

It's flouted quiet a bit on here but just to reiterate, you're generally far better off buying something a bit older and higher quality then using the money you saved on the purchase for tax/insurance/any repairs which might be needed.

Not saying it has to specifically be a bigger engine but something like this could be bought and taxed for 4/5 years with in your budget, so I wouldn't limit myself to just something that's cheap on tax. You'll get a much better car if you widen your considerations for vehicles, cheap tax is definitely not the end all be all of buying a car....if it is you'd save yourself a lot of money by keeping your current motor.

Gbear · 27-05-2013 03:51PM

I was having a gander at Merc C220 blue efficiency recently.

Something like this:
http://www.carzone.ie/search/Mercedes-Benz/C-Class/Blue-Eff/35913679404203070/advert?channel=CARS

There's a huge range of different ones - coupés, different engine sizes and the likes but that general sort of thing seems like it might suit you.

Emissions are quite low - below 120g/l I think so you'd probably be paying less than 300 quid tax.

VRT would probably fairly low if you were looking to import from Britain (where cars are about 1/2 the price without counting VRT).

Browndog82 · 27-05-2013 03:55PM

I understand your point but the car is for " herself " ( Ill be taking hers.... baby on the way so 2 doors are out the gap!) and above are the terms and conditions I have been assigned when selecting said car..

3l engine sucks too much juice in my eyes anyway

Appreciate your commments though @ViperJB
Thanks

tossy · 27-05-2013 04:01PM

High end car with a sub 3.0L engine? Are we talking proper high end or Irish high end ?

Gbear · 27-05-2013 04:02PM

tossy wrote: »

High end car with a sub 3.0L engine? Are we talking proper high end or Irish high end ?

Relative to the 1.4-2l toyotas, opels, renaults and so forth that most people drive a 2-2.2l executive saloon is quite a step up.

Browndog82 · 27-05-2013 04:05PM

hardly a relevant question given I have already said what Im looking for !!!!

Matt Simis · 27-05-2013 04:09PM

Browndog82 wrote: »

3l engine sucks too much juice in my eyes anyway

Thats a bit of a sweeping statement and incorrect to boot. A 3.0TDI Audi uses far less fuel than say a 2.0 Golf GTI.

Ignore the engine size and focus on the actual desired economy and tax. How the manufacturer meets those targets is irrelevant to you.

Browndog82 · 27-05-2013 04:12PM

Ok fair enough comment re engine size but I was just being specific in terms of the the makes I am focusing on to keep the recomendations as narrow as possible

Matt Simis · 27-05-2013 04:15PM

Browndog82 wrote: »

Ok fair enough comment re engine size but I was just being specific in terms of the the makes I am focusing on to keep the recomendations as narrow as possible

Audi A5 (4door) or A4 or A6 3.0TDI then, about 20k for a 2009 off the top of my head. The bigger engine models tend to be spec'ed a lot better than the cookie cutter 2.0models, sound way better, drive way better and will have a dedicated and interested market at resale (as opposed the 2.0 models which are sold purely on being the cheapest or not as there are so many of them).

Browndog82 · 27-05-2013 04:23PM

Correct me if Im wrong but are the A6 s ( not sure about A4 or A5) high in Road tax? I/ We dont want a big hit for road tax every year ( its non negotiable!)

DAZP93 · 27-05-2013 04:24PM

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4881441

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4916607

Something like this I reckon..??

Matt Simis · 27-05-2013 04:41PM

Browndog82 wrote: »

Correct me if Im wrong but are the A6 s ( not sure about A4 or A5) high in Road tax? I/ We dont want a big hit for road tax every year ( its non negotiable!)

Post-2008 Road Tax is determined by CO2, not chassis type, though I suspect most cars with the 3.0TDI are coming in over EUR400 you budgeted for tax anyway.

The Pontiac · 27-05-2013 04:56PM

Still can't get my head around the Irish obsession with motor tax.

Surely there's other (more expensive) factors to consider when buying a car, like service costs (eg. timing belt intervals), tyre size (huge differences in prices) and the biggest one of all - residuals.

So you buy a car because of the low tax, but said car might might depreciate a few thousand euro more than another more desirable model with a higher band after three years. Thus making the lower band tax car more expensive.

Yes, motor tax is obviously a factor, but it's only one factor.

mickdw · 27-05-2013 05:22PM

The Pontiac wrote: »

Still can't get my head around the Irish obsession with motor tax.

Surely there's other (more expensive) factors to consider when buying a car, like service costs (eg. timing belt intervals), tyre size (huge differences in prices) and the biggest one of all - residuals.

So you buy a car because of the low tax, but said car might might depreciate a few thousand euro more than another more desirable model with a higher band after three years. Thus making the lower band tax car more expensive.

Yes, motor tax is obviously a factor, but it's only one factor.

To be fair, the top end tax bracket is a killer so it does very much need to be considered when buying, evrn on expensive cars. To further the point re depreciation, I figure depreciation is very much a function of the road tax rates so making the tax an even more important consideration.

The Pontiac · 27-05-2013 05:40PM

mickdw wrote: »

To be fair, the top end tax bracket is a killer so it does very much need to be considered when buying, evrn on expensive cars. To further the point re depreciation, I figure depreciation is very much a function of the road tax rates so making the tax an even more important consideration.

My example of depreciation, is where someone buys a Saab instead of a BMW. The beemer will hold its value much greater than a Saab or Volvo. A bemmer or Audi will in more demand even with a higher tax band.

So I don't see the point in considering a Volvo for motor tax purposes, if the depreciation is going to be greater.

Or heading off and buying a Renault Laguna with a nice and friendly 1.6 diesel engine on the low tax band, then change it in three years times with horrendous depreciation. What not just buy a Passat?

Sure, depreciation is a factor, but only one factor. You never see a thread started here with a heading, for example - 'High end car with low depreciation and low servicing/running costs'. It's always about bloody motor tax.

Browndog82 · 27-05-2013 07:38PM

The Pontiac wrote: »

My example of depreciation, is where someone buys a Saab instead of a BMW. The beemer will hold its value much greater than a Saab or Volvo. A bemmer or Audi will in more demand even with a higher tax band.

So I don't see the point in considering a Volvo for motor tax purposes, if the depreciation is going to be greater.

Or heading off and buying a Renault Laguna with a nice and friendly 1.6 diesel engine on the low tax band, then change it in three years times with horrendous depreciation. What not just buy a Passat?

Sure, depreciation is a factor, but only one factor. You never see a thread started here with a heading, for example - 'High end car with low depreciation and low servicing/running costs'. It's always about bloody motor tax. [/quote

Ok but That's going off point

Browndog82 · 27-05-2013 07:41PM

DAZP93 wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4881441

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4916607

Something like this I reckon..??

What's the tax like on these ???

R.O.R · 27-05-2013 07:46PM

Browndog82 wrote: »

What's the tax like on these ???

They should be either €270 or €280 - can't remember if they are just under or just over 130g.

Both have the same text and same contact - looks a bit scammy to me, and far too cheap for a low mileage F10.

divito06 · 27-05-2013 07:53PM

Browndog82 wrote: »

Looking for an Audi, Merc, BMW but must have the foloowing spec!!!
Hoping someone can help me out as Im going mad looking for it .. cant find one with low car tax ie low c02 emissions....
So here are the essentials:

Automatic Transmission
Saloon
Diesel
Budget: up to €22k
Max Engine Size 2.2l
Year 2008 -2010

Thanks in advance
browndog

Before you think about wasting your money here in ireland have a look on www.pistonheads.co.uk
Well worth a look, thats where im buying my audi.

Browndog82 · 27-05-2013 08:49PM

R.O.R wrote: »

They should be either €270 or €280 - can't remember if they are just under or just over 130g.

Both have the same text and same contact - looks a bit scammy to me, and far too cheap for a low mileage F10.

Yeah I was thinking the price was very
low too

High End Car with low tax???under 22k

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