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Shocking snake story; what pets would you ban?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭Juniorhurler


    Pit bull terriers or any other breed of dog specifically bred/evolved for fighting. I hate seeing young men walking about with them un-muzzled thinking that the hard look of the dog somehow portrays onto them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    Cats.

    Not because they are dangerous or anything, I just don't particularly like them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 240 ✭✭Pai Mei


    Any exotic animal that is kept in a cage for life. It's not right IMO


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭Magnetics


    Pit bull terriers or any other breed of dog specifically bred/evolved for fighting. I hate seeing young men walking about with them un-muzzled thinking that the hard look of the dog somehow portrays onto them.

    Stop reading tabloid newspapers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭Pang


    Pit bull terriers or any other breed of dog specifically bred/evolved for fighting. I hate seeing young men walking about with them un-muzzled thinking that the hard look of the dog somehow portrays onto them.

    Totally agree with this. There are alot of men where I live with these dogs and half the time, some are unmuzzled and off the leash. So irresponsible.

    I was watching the news on BBC last week and they were talking about the new laws which will come into place regarding ownership of these dogs. One of the interviewees was saying these dogs are seen as a status symbol among some men in particular social groups.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,488 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Not sure about pets but I would exterminate armoured crickets from the face if the earth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,351 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Australians. Lethal with those boomerangs so they are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,257 ✭✭✭✭Rabies


    Pit bull terriers or any other breed of dog specifically bred/evolved for fighting. I hate seeing young men walking about with them un-muzzled thinking that the hard look of the dog somehow portrays onto them.

    Those dogs would have a better life if their owners were muzzled.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭TheMilkyPirate


    Used to work in a petshop before and a fella came in one day and told me a story about a snake he used to have. Apparently it stopped eating for ages wouldn't touch nothing and he was regularly waking up on the sofa or wherever and finding the snake lying lengthways beside him.

    Turns out the snake was sizing him up to see if he could fit him in to him. Rough turned me off snakes big time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 712 ✭✭✭SweepTheLeg


    No such thing as dangerous dogs, Stop reading tabloids. It's the shít owners that are to blame.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭Juniorhurler


    No such thing as dangerous dogs, Stop reading tabloids. It's the shít owners that are to blame.

    Different breeds of dogs are evolved for different purposes. Certain breeds are evolved to fight. It is not tabloid journalism re-hashed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,385 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    baraca wrote: »
    Used to work in a petshop before and a fella came in one day and told me a story about a snake he used to have. Apparently it stopped eating for ages wouldn't touch nothing and he was regularly waking up on the sofa or wherever and finding the snake lying lengthways beside him.

    Turns out the snake was sizing him up to see if he could fit him in to him. Rough turned me off snakes big time

    He told you that on the 1st of April didn't he??


  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    baraca wrote: »
    Used to work in a petshop before and a fella came in one day and told me a story about a snake he used to have. Apparently it stopped eating for ages wouldn't touch nothing and he was regularly waking up on the sofa or wherever and finding the snake lying lengthways beside him.

    Turns out the snake was sizing him up to see if he could fit him in to him. Rough turned me off snakes big time

    Urban legend number 472


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 217 ✭✭REPTILEDAN88


    baraca wrote: »
    Used to work in a petshop before and a fella came in one day and told me a story about a snake he used to have. Apparently it stopped eating for ages wouldn't touch nothing and he was regularly waking up on the sofa or wherever and finding the snake lying lengthways beside him.

    Turns out the snake was sizing him up to see if he could fit him in to him. Rough turned me off snakes big time
    Thats a total myth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 172 ✭✭Chin Stroker


    baraca wrote: »
    Used to work in a petshop before and a fella came in one day and told me a story about a snake he used to have. Apparently it stopped eating for ages wouldn't touch nothing and he was regularly waking up on the sofa or wherever and finding the snake lying lengthways beside him.

    Turns out the snake was sizing him up to see if he could fit him in to him. Rough turned me off snakes big time

    Have read similar stories before

    *shiver*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    Pit bull terriers or any other breed of dog specifically bred/evolved for fighting. I hate seeing young men walking about with them un-muzzled thinking that the hard look of the dog somehow portrays onto them.

    :confused:

    Hardly, more like the idiots that own these dogs should be banned from owning them.

    Quite a few breeds were bred for fighting:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dog_fighting_breeds

    Most people think that Staffies are Pit Bulls but can't tell the difference, its all hyped media bullcrap.

    You have to be in control of any dog otherwise it can do damage even by accident.

    IMO its the people that treat their dogs as some sort of protection or worse some sort of replacement baby that are the problem.

    Dog is a Dog, treat it decently as a dog and it will act decently as a dog.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,180 ✭✭✭hfallada


    There was a house for sale in Dublin with a python. The thing was so big that it had its own room and was too big to take out of a house.

    I dont think people should exotic pets. Some of which are illegally poached endangered species, smuggled half way around the world. Just so someone can have a pet to look at and not play and are often are just left in a glass case.

    Also over breed dogs should be banned. Alot of the dogs in Crufts have serious health issues from over breeding.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    No such thing as dangerous dogs, Stop reading tabloids. It's the shít owners that are to blame.

    If the ™owners are to blame™, then you are not denying that a lot of dangerous dogs exist, just why they do.

    So as it's not against the law for these morons to get and mistrain powerful dogs, it's not tabloid hysteria to say that the problem exists.

    And unfortunately the fact that the dogs are fine in the right hands has to be weighed up against the fact that there is nothing to stop many dogs being in the wrong hands.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Magnetics wrote: »
    Stop reading tabloid newspapers

    I personally have met someone who had a particularly nasty bite to the top of his thigh after walking in the park when a pitbull attacked him. He was lucky that the dog failed to get a grip directly on his balls which was the dogs first attack attempt.

    How about owners agree to take a shotgun to the nutsack if the dog attacks anyone which would result in the damage that a pitball is more than capable of inflicting. This guy was very lucky he didn't lose his junk in this attack.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,488 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Treating a dog decently means nothing. I know a guy who had pitbulls and one of his bitches was nice as pie to people but it used to kill birds and fight with another female he had. Eventually came home and it had ripped the other to pieces.

    Large animals with sharp teeth, particularly that eat meat, are dangerous.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 712 ✭✭✭SweepTheLeg


    anncoates wrote: »
    If the ™owners are to blame™, then you are not denying that a lot of dangerous dogs exist, just why they do.

    Poodles can be dangerous, they have teeth don't they? Anything can be dangerous, Moronic people who don't look after the animals are the problem, not the dogs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 712 ✭✭✭SweepTheLeg


    Ush1 wrote: »
    Treating a dog decently means nothing.

    Large animals with sharp teeth, particularly that eat meat, are dangerous.

    You've obviously never owned a dog. This thread depresses me. Also it's obvious your friend never trained the Dog properly if it didn't get on with other dogs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Archeron


    Zombies. You think they're chained up safely in the garden behind the washing line full of bed sheets, but one lax moment and it's brain souffle.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭Juniorhurler


    :confused:

    Hardly, more like the idiots that own these dogs should be banned from owning them.

    Quite a few breeds were bred for fighting:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dog_fighting_breeds

    Most people think that Staffies are Pit Bulls but can't tell the difference, its all hyped media bullcrap.

    You have to be in control of any dog otherwise it can do damage even by accident.

    IMO its the people that treat their dogs as some sort of protection or worse some sort of replacement baby that are the problem.

    Dog is a Dog, treat it decently as a dog and it will act decently as a dog.

    Trust me, I know a staffie from a pit bull. I do agree that a huge portion of blame is down to owners. I work with a lot of seriously disadvantaged boys/yoing men who think that these type of dogs are a weapon or a status symbol and spend lots of time discussing who has the hardest dog. Unless the dogs are outflright banned you are looking at an ownership test which would be massively unwieldy for any community/dog warden. Just my tuppenceworth. By the way I am a dog lover, I have three. On my farm I would not keep a bull who displayed signs of aggression so why should dogs who are equally as dangerous be kept?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 143 ✭✭Chocolate


    baraca wrote: »
    Used to work in a petshop before and a fella came in one day and told me a story about a snake he used to have. Apparently it stopped eating for ages wouldn't touch nothing and he was regularly waking up on the sofa or wherever and finding the snake lying lengthways beside him.

    Turns out the snake was sizing him up to see if he could fit him in to him. Rough turned me off snakes big time

    It appears that this tale may be an urban legend.

    http://www.snopes.com/critters/snakes/measured.asp


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,203 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    hfallada wrote: »
    There was a house for sale in Dublin with a python. The thing was so big that it had its own room and was too big to take out of a house.

    .

    :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,427 ✭✭✭Morag


    I'd ban the moron who owns the pet shop from being able to deal in such animals.
    I'd set planning and city accordance to not have exotic petshops in the same building as residential units.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Poodles can be dangerous, they have teeth don't they? Anything can be dangerous, Moronic people who don't look after the animals are the problem, not the dogs.

    You're ignoring the point.

    Unless you stop people turning the dogs into dangerous animals, the problem of dangerous digs is s real one.

    The weird logic on this one is like motoring forum types thinking speed restrictions shouldn't exist because they themselves consider themselves to be expert drivers .

    I'm not a dog hater at all but it's pointless to pretend the issue doesn't exist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,488 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    You've obviously never owned a dog. This thread depresses me. Also it's obvious your friend never trained the Dog properly if it didn't get on with other dogs.


    I've had 2 pet dogs. Why do think I haven't?

    Train it in what way? It wasnt a puppy and he had the dog about a month. Most domestic breeds of dog wont literally rip another one apart, trained or not.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    I'm a responsible Bengal Tiger owner, it's all the irresponsible owners that give tigers a bad name.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,299 ✭✭✭paulmclaughlin


    Archeron wrote: »
    Zombies. You think they're chained up safely in the garden behind the washing line full of bed sheets, but one lax moment and it's brain souffle.

    I disagree with this completely! This zombie was raised in a poor environment, had no mental stimulation and given no exercise or any form of attention except being a lab-rat/exhibition! Don't blame the zombies, blame the owners!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 712 ✭✭✭SweepTheLeg


    Ush1 wrote: »
    I've had 2 pet dogs. Why do think I haven't?

    Train it in what way? It wasnt a puppy and he had the dog about a month. Most domestic breeds of dog wont literally rip another one apart, trained or not.

    It's obvious the previous owner was shítty one since it didn't get on with other dogs. It's nothing to do with what breed of dog it is, If you don't socialize your dog with other dogs at a young age they wont learn to be nice around them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,203 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    baraca wrote: »
    Used to work in a petshop before and a fella came in one day and told me a story about a snake he used to have. Apparently it stopped eating for ages wouldn't touch nothing and he was regularly waking up on the sofa or wherever and finding the snake lying lengthways beside him.

    Turns out the snake was sizing him up to see if he could fit him in to him. Rough turned me off snakes big time

    Biggest load of bull.
    Pythons don't measure their prey before going after their meals: They grab, they squeeze, they eat.
    Simple as. No measuring of any sort.
    Plenty of pythons have grabbed animals far to be for them to swallow and after trying to swallow its prey it realises its not able to and spits out the head or part its swallowed so far as moves on to a smaller animal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 938 ✭✭✭Ice Storm


    I don't understand the mentality around having a pet that would kill you if given half a chance. Or a pet that is scared of you.

    I'd rather have a pet that will love me and show me affection. I want a dog... :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,488 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    It's obvious the previous owner was shítty one since it didn't get on with other dogs. It's nothing to do with what breed of dog it is, If you don't socialize your dog with other dogs at a young age they wont learn to be nice around them.

    Great but it doesnt make his dog any less dangerous.

    Dog bites are a common thing, youre dealing with something that was a wolf a few generations earlier. Im not arguing for banning, just that dogs arent dangerous is patently false.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 712 ✭✭✭SweepTheLeg


    Ush1 wrote: »
    Great but it doesnt make his dog any less dangerous.

    Dog bites are a common thing, youre dealing with something that was a wolf a few generations earlier. Im not arguing for banning, just that dogs arent dangerous is patently false.

    But you were saying it's the breed that made them not get on with other Dogs. It would be the same for every breed and even Humans. You isolate a person all their life from human contact then one day fill them with a room full of people, they would react similar. Defensive, Scared and maybe even violent.


  • Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It's nothing to do with what breed of dog it is, If you don't socialize your dog with other dogs at a young age they wont learn to be nice around them.

    Breed does matter. To say two dogs of different breeds wont be different is absurd.

    Environment affects behaviour/temperament. Doesn't stop breed being an important factor too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 463 ✭✭Christ the Redeemer


    baraca wrote: »
    Used to work in a petshop before and a fella came in one day and told me a story about a snake he used to have. Apparently it stopped eating for ages wouldn't touch nothing and he was regularly waking up on the sofa or wherever and finding the snake lying lengthways beside him.

    Turns out the snake was sizing him up to see if he could fit him in to him. Rough turned me off snakes big time

    ****ing Scarlet for you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,048 ✭✭✭Da Shins Kelly


    That snake story seems odd. The snake just strangled them and didn't bother trying to eat them? Granted, I'm not an expert in exotic animals, but I would have thought that if it was going to kill them, it would have eaten them too? Surely it wouldn't kill them just for the sake of it?

    As for banning certain pets, I think when it comes to exotic animals like snakes and such, owners need to be thoroughly checked out (maybe this is already the case), and made sure that they actually have the know-how and resources to give a good quality of life to such animals and make sure that they don't harm anyone.

    As for dogs, pit bulls get a bad rep, but, in my experience, there's a whole lot of sensationalism surrounding that particular breed. I've had nothing but good experiences with them. Yes, they get used for fighting, but whose fault is that? Bad owners make bad dogs. If you treat animals with respect and rear them correctly, more often than not, they will turn out just fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    I wouldn't ban any animals at all; I would however ban certain irresponsible human muppets from keeping pets of any kind.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    Different breeds of dogs are evolved for different purposes. Certain breeds are evolved to fight. It is not tabloid journalism re-hashed.
    There is some truth in that. Only in the last 50-100 years have dogs been kept primarily as companion animals (pets to you and I). Previous to this they had a companionship role but their main function was as a working animal. Guarding/rounding up livestock, hunting, retrieving, and yes - fighting are just some of the many jobs performed by an amazingly versatile animal. Because many breeds have been bred to work long hours, dogs over most pets require a life of stimulation and activity to stop boredom and bad habits setting in - a fact forgotten by some owners.

    Unfortunately the fighting pedigree (which exists, however much some would like to whitewash it out) appeals to young scumbags who see a dog as little more than a status symbol or some sort of weapon to brandish on the streets. This coupled with poor training and boredom is a recipe for disaster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 Sephichan


    I just posted this in the other thread about this, but there are signs pointing to the fact that the snake did not kill the children. For one, the snake did not belong to the pet store, and it's tank was in the apartment building. The snake was also securely in the tank when the RCMP arrived, apparently one of the parents found it with the children and decided the best course of action was to unwrap it from the children, and put it back in it's tank. Honestly there is a huge fishy smell around the whole story after this got out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,567 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Cats since nearly ever one who has one seems to think its ok to allow them wander around freely off their property.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    How did a python strangle 2 children, and not try to eat any?

    As for dogs. Dog popularity changes. There was a time it was boxers. And GS/alsations. And rotties. And huskies. And dobermans. And dalmations. And whatever else. Ban one type, then it changes to another. OR fúcktards ignore the ban, and get them anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 Sephichan


    How did a python strangle 2 children, and not try to eat any?

    As for dogs. Dog popularity changes. There was a time it was boxers. And GS/alsations. And rotties. And huskies. And dobermans. And dalmations. And whatever else. Ban one type, then it changes to another. OR fúcktards ignore the ban, and get them anyway.
    Because they are looking at it as a possible homicide now. The snake was found in a secure enclosure in the apartment, it is NOT from the pet store.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭April O Neill


    baraca wrote: »
    Used to work in a petshop before and a fella came in one day and told me a story about a snake he used to have. Apparently it stopped eating for ages wouldn't touch nothing and he was regularly waking up on the sofa or wherever and finding the snake lying lengthways beside him.

    Turns out the snake was sizing him up to see if he could fit him in to him. Rough turned me off snakes big time

    Urban myth. I've heard this story a millionty times from different people. It's always a friend of a friend etc. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭April O Neill


    That snake story seems odd. The snake just strangled them and didn't bother trying to eat them? Granted, I'm not an expert in exotic animals, but I would have thought that if it was going to kill them, it would have eaten them too? Surely it wouldn't kill them just for the sake of it?

    And did it strangle them both at the same time? If not, how did one not wake up from the other one screaming? Weird.
    Sephichan wrote: »
    I just posted this in the other thread about this, but there are signs pointing to the fact that the snake did not kill the children. For one, the snake did not belong to the pet store, and it's tank was in the apartment building. The snake was also securely in the tank when the RCMP arrived, apparently one of the parents found it with the children and decided the best course of action was to unwrap it from the children, and put it back in it's tank. Honestly there is a huge fishy smell around the whole story after this got out.

    I feckin' knew it! Thanks for the info.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 Teddy Dalton


    no animal should be banned from being kept as a pet, it is wrong to punish the responsible majority of exotics owners for the actions of the irresponsible few, it's like banning all dogs so that there will be no more dog abuse. it makes no sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,567 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    no animal should be banned from being kept as a pet, it is wrong to punish the responsible majority of exotics owners for the actions of the irresponsible few, it's like banning all dogs so that there will be no more dog abuse. it makes no sense.

    so it's ok to keep tigers, hippos, blue whales etc?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,740 Mod ✭✭✭✭dfx-


    Constrictor snakes freak me out more than most animals/reptiles etc.
    How did a python strangle 2 children, and not try to eat any?

    One idea supposedly is that they smelled of farm animals from a trip earlier in the day and maybe then it backed off..

    I do wonder how it got out of its enclosure.


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