Shocking snake story; what pets would you ban?

Chin Stroker · 06-08-2013 09:43PM #1

Two children strangled by a snake in Canada

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23583116

What animals/creatures should never be on sale to the public?

Juniorhurler · 06-08-2013 09:46PM

Pit bull terriers or any other breed of dog specifically bred/evolved for fighting. I hate seeing young men walking about with them un-muzzled thinking that the hard look of the dog somehow portrays onto them.

wazky · 06-08-2013 09:48PM

Cats.

Not because they are dangerous or anything, I just don't particularly like them.

Pai Mei · 06-08-2013 09:50PM

Any exotic animal that is kept in a cage for life. It's not right IMO

Magnetics · 06-08-2013 09:52PM

Juniorhurler wrote: »

Pit bull terriers or any other breed of dog specifically bred/evolved for fighting. I hate seeing young men walking about with them un-muzzled thinking that the hard look of the dog somehow portrays onto them.

Stop reading tabloid newspapers

Pang · 06-08-2013 09:52PM

Juniorhurler wrote: »

Pit bull terriers or any other breed of dog specifically bred/evolved for fighting. I hate seeing young men walking about with them un-muzzled thinking that the hard look of the dog somehow portrays onto them.

Totally agree with this. There are alot of men where I live with these dogs and half the time, some are unmuzzled and off the leash. So irresponsible.

I was watching the news on BBC last week and they were talking about the new laws which will come into place regarding ownership of these dogs. One of the interviewees was saying these dogs are seen as a status symbol among some men in particular social groups.

Ush1 · 06-08-2013 09:56PM

Not sure about pets but I would exterminate armoured crickets from the face if the earth.

super_furry · 06-08-2013 09:56PM

Australians. Lethal with those boomerangs so they are.

Rabies · 06-08-2013 09:57PM

Juniorhurler wrote: »

Pit bull terriers or any other breed of dog specifically bred/evolved for fighting. I hate seeing young men walking about with them un-muzzled thinking that the hard look of the dog somehow portrays onto them.

Those dogs would have a better life if their owners were muzzled.

TheMilkyPirate · 06-08-2013 09:57PM

Used to work in a petshop before and a fella came in one day and told me a story about a snake he used to have. Apparently it stopped eating for ages wouldn't touch nothing and he was regularly waking up on the sofa or wherever and finding the snake lying lengthways beside him.

Turns out the snake was sizing him up to see if he could fit him in to him. Rough turned me off snakes big time

SweepTheLeg · 06-08-2013 09:58PM

No such thing as dangerous dogs, Stop reading tabloids. It's the shít owners that are to blame.

Juniorhurler · 06-08-2013 10:03PM

SweepTheLeg wrote: »

No such thing as dangerous dogs, Stop reading tabloids. It's the shít owners that are to blame.

Different breeds of dogs are evolved for different purposes. Certain breeds are evolved to fight. It is not tabloid journalism re-hashed.

namloc1980 · 06-08-2013 10:04PM

baraca wrote: »

Used to work in a petshop before and a fella came in one day and told me a story about a snake he used to have. Apparently it stopped eating for ages wouldn't touch nothing and he was regularly waking up on the sofa or wherever and finding the snake lying lengthways beside him.

Turns out the snake was sizing him up to see if he could fit him in to him. Rough turned me off snakes big time

He told you that on the 1st of April didn't he??

06-08-2013 10:05PM

baraca wrote: »

Used to work in a petshop before and a fella came in one day and told me a story about a snake he used to have. Apparently it stopped eating for ages wouldn't touch nothing and he was regularly waking up on the sofa or wherever and finding the snake lying lengthways beside him.

Turns out the snake was sizing him up to see if he could fit him in to him. Rough turned me off snakes big time

Urban legend number 472

REPTILEDAN88 · 06-08-2013 10:05PM

baraca wrote: »

Used to work in a petshop before and a fella came in one day and told me a story about a snake he used to have. Apparently it stopped eating for ages wouldn't touch nothing and he was regularly waking up on the sofa or wherever and finding the snake lying lengthways beside him.

Turns out the snake was sizing him up to see if he could fit him in to him. Rough turned me off snakes big time

Thats a total myth.

Chin Stroker · 06-08-2013 10:05PM

baraca wrote: »

Used to work in a petshop before and a fella came in one day and told me a story about a snake he used to have. Apparently it stopped eating for ages wouldn't touch nothing and he was regularly waking up on the sofa or wherever and finding the snake lying lengthways beside him.

Turns out the snake was sizing him up to see if he could fit him in to him. Rough turned me off snakes big time

Have read similar stories before

*shiver*

keithclancy · 06-08-2013 10:06PM

Juniorhurler wrote: »

Pit bull terriers or any other breed of dog specifically bred/evolved for fighting. I hate seeing young men walking about with them un-muzzled thinking that the hard look of the dog somehow portrays onto them.

Hardly, more like the idiots that own these dogs should be banned from owning them.

Quite a few breeds were bred for fighting:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dog_fighting_breeds

Most people think that Staffies are Pit Bulls but can't tell the difference, its all hyped media bullcrap.

You have to be in control of any dog otherwise it can do damage even by accident.

IMO its the people that treat their dogs as some sort of protection or worse some sort of replacement baby that are the problem.

Dog is a Dog, treat it decently as a dog and it will act decently as a dog.

hfallada · 06-08-2013 10:09PM

There was a house for sale in Dublin with a python. The thing was so big that it had its own room and was too big to take out of a house.

I dont think people should exotic pets. Some of which are illegally poached endangered species, smuggled half way around the world. Just so someone can have a pet to look at and not play and are often are just left in a glass case.

Also over breed dogs should be banned. Alot of the dogs in Crufts have serious health issues from over breeding.

anncoates · 06-08-2013 10:10PM

SweepTheLeg wrote: »

No such thing as dangerous dogs, Stop reading tabloids. It's the shít owners that are to blame.

If the ™owners are to blame™, then you are not denying that a lot of dangerous dogs exist, just why they do.

So as it's not against the law for these morons to get and mistrain powerful dogs, it's not tabloid hysteria to say that the problem exists.

And unfortunately the fact that the dogs are fine in the right hands has to be weighed up against the fact that there is nothing to stop many dogs being in the wrong hands.

MadsL · 06-08-2013 10:10PM

Magnetics wrote: »

Stop reading tabloid newspapers

I personally have met someone who had a particularly nasty bite to the top of his thigh after walking in the park when a pitbull attacked him. He was lucky that the dog failed to get a grip directly on his balls which was the dogs first attack attempt.

How about owners agree to take a shotgun to the nutsack if the dog attacks anyone which would result in the damage that a pitball is more than capable of inflicting. This guy was very lucky he didn't lose his junk in this attack.

Ush1 · 06-08-2013 10:12PM

Treating a dog decently means nothing. I know a guy who had pitbulls and one of his bitches was nice as pie to people but it used to kill birds and fight with another female he had. Eventually came home and it had ripped the other to pieces.

Large animals with sharp teeth, particularly that eat meat, are dangerous.

SweepTheLeg · 06-08-2013 10:12PM

anncoates wrote: »

If the ™owners are to blame™, then you are not denying that a lot of dangerous dogs exist, just why they do.

Poodles can be dangerous, they have teeth don't they? Anything can be dangerous, Moronic people who don't look after the animals are the problem, not the dogs.

SweepTheLeg · 06-08-2013 10:14PM

Ush1 wrote: »

Treating a dog decently means nothing.

Large animals with sharp teeth, particularly that eat meat, are dangerous.

You've obviously never owned a dog. This thread depresses me. Also it's obvious your friend never trained the Dog properly if it didn't get on with other dogs.

Archeron · 06-08-2013 10:14PM

Zombies. You think they're chained up safely in the garden behind the washing line full of bed sheets, but one lax moment and it's brain souffle.

Juniorhurler · 06-08-2013 10:14PM

keithclancy wrote: »

Hardly, more like the idiots that own these dogs should be banned from owning them.

Quite a few breeds were bred for fighting:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dog_fighting_breeds

Most people think that Staffies are Pit Bulls but can't tell the difference, its all hyped media bullcrap.

You have to be in control of any dog otherwise it can do damage even by accident.

IMO its the people that treat their dogs as some sort of protection or worse some sort of replacement baby that are the problem.

Dog is a Dog, treat it decently as a dog and it will act decently as a dog.

Trust me, I know a staffie from a pit bull. I do agree that a huge portion of blame is down to owners. I work with a lot of seriously disadvantaged boys/yoing men who think that these type of dogs are a weapon or a status symbol and spend lots of time discussing who has the hardest dog. Unless the dogs are outflright banned you are looking at an ownership test which would be massively unwieldy for any community/dog warden. Just my tuppenceworth. By the way I am a dog lover, I have three. On my farm I would not keep a bull who displayed signs of aggression so why should dogs who are equally as dangerous be kept?

Chocolate · 06-08-2013 10:15PM

baraca wrote: »

Used to work in a petshop before and a fella came in one day and told me a story about a snake he used to have. Apparently it stopped eating for ages wouldn't touch nothing and he was regularly waking up on the sofa or wherever and finding the snake lying lengthways beside him.

Turns out the snake was sizing him up to see if he could fit him in to him. Rough turned me off snakes big time

It appears that this tale may be an urban legend.

http://www.snopes.com/critters/snakes/measured.asp

dodderangler · 06-08-2013 10:17PM

hfallada wrote: »

There was a house for sale in Dublin with a python. The thing was so big that it had its own room and was too big to take out of a house.

.

:rolleyes:

Morag · 06-08-2013 10:17PM

I'd ban the moron who owns the pet shop from being able to deal in such animals.
I'd set planning and city accordance to not have exotic petshops in the same building as residential units.

anncoates · 06-08-2013 10:17PM

SweepTheLeg wrote: »

Poodles can be dangerous, they have teeth don't they? Anything can be dangerous, Moronic people who don't look after the animals are the problem, not the dogs.

You're ignoring the point.

Unless you stop people turning the dogs into dangerous animals, the problem of dangerous digs is s real one.

The weird logic on this one is like motoring forum types thinking speed restrictions shouldn't exist because they themselves consider themselves to be expert drivers .

I'm not a dog hater at all but it's pointless to pretend the issue doesn't exist.

Ush1 · 06-08-2013 10:18PM

SweepTheLeg wrote: »

You've obviously never owned a dog. This thread depresses me. Also it's obvious your friend never trained the Dog properly if it didn't get on with other dogs.

I've had 2 pet dogs. Why do think I haven't?

Train it in what way? It wasnt a puppy and he had the dog about a month. Most domestic breeds of dog wont literally rip another one apart, trained or not.

MadsL · 06-08-2013 10:19PM

I'm a responsible Bengal Tiger owner, it's all the irresponsible owners that give tigers a bad name.

paulmclaughlin · 06-08-2013 10:20PM

Archeron wrote: »

Zombies. You think they're chained up safely in the garden behind the washing line full of bed sheets, but one lax moment and it's brain souffle.

I disagree with this completely! This zombie was raised in a poor environment, had no mental stimulation and given no exercise or any form of attention except being a lab-rat/exhibition! Don't blame the zombies, blame the owners!

SweepTheLeg · 06-08-2013 10:24PM

Ush1 wrote: »

I've had 2 pet dogs. Why do think I haven't?

Train it in what way? It wasnt a puppy and he had the dog about a month. Most domestic breeds of dog wont literally rip another one apart, trained or not.

It's obvious the previous owner was shítty one since it didn't get on with other dogs. It's nothing to do with what breed of dog it is, If you don't socialize your dog with other dogs at a young age they wont learn to be nice around them.

dodderangler · 06-08-2013 10:25PM

baraca wrote: »

Used to work in a petshop before and a fella came in one day and told me a story about a snake he used to have. Apparently it stopped eating for ages wouldn't touch nothing and he was regularly waking up on the sofa or wherever and finding the snake lying lengthways beside him.

Turns out the snake was sizing him up to see if he could fit him in to him. Rough turned me off snakes big time

Biggest load of bull.
Pythons don't measure their prey before going after their meals: They grab, they squeeze, they eat.
Simple as. No measuring of any sort.
Plenty of pythons have grabbed animals far to be for them to swallow and after trying to swallow its prey it realises its not able to and spits out the head or part its swallowed so far as moves on to a smaller animal.

Ice Storm · 06-08-2013 10:28PM

I don't understand the mentality around having a pet that would kill you if given half a chance. Or a pet that is scared of you.

I'd rather have a pet that will love me and show me affection. I want a dog...

Ush1 · 06-08-2013 10:33PM

SweepTheLeg wrote: »

It's obvious the previous owner was shítty one since it didn't get on with other dogs. It's nothing to do with what breed of dog it is, If you don't socialize your dog with other dogs at a young age they wont learn to be nice around them.

Great but it doesnt make his dog any less dangerous.

Dog bites are a common thing, youre dealing with something that was a wolf a few generations earlier. Im not arguing for banning, just that dogs arent dangerous is patently false.

SweepTheLeg · 06-08-2013 10:39PM

Ush1 wrote: »

Great but it doesnt make his dog any less dangerous.

Dog bites are a common thing, youre dealing with something that was a wolf a few generations earlier. Im not arguing for banning, just that dogs arent dangerous is patently false.

But you were saying it's the breed that made them not get on with other Dogs. It would be the same for every breed and even Humans. You isolate a person all their life from human contact then one day fill them with a room full of people, they would react similar. Defensive, Scared and maybe even violent.

06-08-2013 10:54PM

SweepTheLeg wrote: »

It's nothing to do with what breed of dog it is, If you don't socialize your dog with other dogs at a young age they wont learn to be nice around them.

Breed does matter. To say two dogs of different breeds wont be different is absurd.

Environment affects behaviour/temperament. Doesn't stop breed being an important factor too.

Christ the Redeemer · 06-08-2013 11:02PM

baraca wrote: »

Used to work in a petshop before and a fella came in one day and told me a story about a snake he used to have. Apparently it stopped eating for ages wouldn't touch nothing and he was regularly waking up on the sofa or wherever and finding the snake lying lengthways beside him.

Turns out the snake was sizing him up to see if he could fit him in to him. Rough turned me off snakes big time

****ing Scarlet for you.

Da Shins Kelly · 06-08-2013 11:33PM

That snake story seems odd. The snake just strangled them and didn't bother trying to eat them? Granted, I'm not an expert in exotic animals, but I would have thought that if it was going to kill them, it would have eaten them too? Surely it wouldn't kill them just for the sake of it?

As for banning certain pets, I think when it comes to exotic animals like snakes and such, owners need to be thoroughly checked out (maybe this is already the case), and made sure that they actually have the know-how and resources to give a good quality of life to such animals and make sure that they don't harm anyone.

As for dogs, pit bulls get a bad rep, but, in my experience, there's a whole lot of sensationalism surrounding that particular breed. I've had nothing but good experiences with them. Yes, they get used for fighting, but whose fault is that? Bad owners make bad dogs. If you treat animals with respect and rear them correctly, more often than not, they will turn out just fine.

hatrickpatrick · 07-08-2013 12:31AM

I wouldn't ban any animals at all; I would however ban certain irresponsible human muppets from keeping pets of any kind.

Jimoslimos · 07-08-2013 01:29AM

Juniorhurler wrote: »

Different breeds of dogs are evolved for different purposes. Certain breeds are evolved to fight. It is not tabloid journalism re-hashed.

There is some truth in that. Only in the last 50-100 years have dogs been kept primarily as companion animals (pets to you and I). Previous to this they had a companionship role but their main function was as a working animal. Guarding/rounding up livestock, hunting, retrieving, and yes - fighting are just some of the many jobs performed by an amazingly versatile animal. Because many breeds have been bred to work long hours, dogs over most pets require a life of stimulation and activity to stop boredom and bad habits setting in - a fact forgotten by some owners.

Unfortunately the fighting pedigree (which exists, however much some would like to whitewash it out) appeals to young scumbags who see a dog as little more than a status symbol or some sort of weapon to brandish on the streets. This coupled with poor training and boredom is a recipe for disaster.

Sephichan · 07-08-2013 01:33AM

I just posted this in the other thread about this, but there are signs pointing to the fact that the snake did not kill the children. For one, the snake did not belong to the pet store, and it's tank was in the apartment building. The snake was also securely in the tank when the RCMP arrived, apparently one of the parents found it with the children and decided the best course of action was to unwrap it from the children, and put it back in it's tank. Honestly there is a huge fishy smell around the whole story after this got out.

Cookie_Monster · 07-08-2013 01:34AM

Cats since nearly ever one who has one seems to think its ok to allow them wander around freely off their property.

Sofiztikated · 07-08-2013 01:37AM

How did a python strangle 2 children, and not try to eat any?

As for dogs. Dog popularity changes. There was a time it was boxers. And GS/alsations. And rotties. And huskies. And dobermans. And dalmations. And whatever else. Ban one type, then it changes to another. OR fúcktards ignore the ban, and get them anyway.

Sephichan · 07-08-2013 01:50AM

Sofiztikated wrote: »

How did a python strangle 2 children, and not try to eat any?

As for dogs. Dog popularity changes. There was a time it was boxers. And GS/alsations. And rotties. And huskies. And dobermans. And dalmations. And whatever else. Ban one type, then it changes to another. OR fúcktards ignore the ban, and get them anyway.

Because they are looking at it as a possible homicide now. The snake was found in a secure enclosure in the apartment, it is NOT from the pet store.

April O Neill · 07-08-2013 03:08AM

baraca wrote: »

Used to work in a petshop before and a fella came in one day and told me a story about a snake he used to have. Apparently it stopped eating for ages wouldn't touch nothing and he was regularly waking up on the sofa or wherever and finding the snake lying lengthways beside him.

Turns out the snake was sizing him up to see if he could fit him in to him. Rough turned me off snakes big time

Urban myth. I've heard this story a millionty times from different people. It's always a friend of a friend etc.

April O Neill · 07-08-2013 03:26AM

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

That snake story seems odd. The snake just strangled them and didn't bother trying to eat them? Granted, I'm not an expert in exotic animals, but I would have thought that if it was going to kill them, it would have eaten them too? Surely it wouldn't kill them just for the sake of it?

And did it strangle them both at the same time? If not, how did one not wake up from the other one screaming? Weird.

Sephichan wrote: »

I just posted this in the other thread about this, but there are signs pointing to the fact that the snake did not kill the children. For one, the snake did not belong to the pet store, and it's tank was in the apartment building. The snake was also securely in the tank when the RCMP arrived, apparently one of the parents found it with the children and decided the best course of action was to unwrap it from the children, and put it back in it's tank. Honestly there is a huge fishy smell around the whole story after this got out.

I feckin' knew it! Thanks for the info.

Teddy Dalton · 07-08-2013 03:56AM

no animal should be banned from being kept as a pet, it is wrong to punish the responsible majority of exotics owners for the actions of the irresponsible few, it's like banning all dogs so that there will be no more dog abuse. it makes no sense.

Cookie_Monster · 07-08-2013 04:52AM

Teddy Dalton wrote: »

no animal should be banned from being kept as a pet, it is wrong to punish the responsible majority of exotics owners for the actions of the irresponsible few, it's like banning all dogs so that there will be no more dog abuse. it makes no sense.

so it's ok to keep tigers, hippos, blue whales etc?

dfx- · 07-08-2013 05:39AM

Constrictor snakes freak me out more than most animals/reptiles etc.

Sofiztikated wrote: »

How did a python strangle 2 children, and not try to eat any?

One idea supposedly is that they smelled of farm animals from a trip earlier in the day and maybe then it backed off..

I do wonder how it got out of its enclosure.

Shocking snake story; what pets would you ban?

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