O'Connor in more trouble

ColmH81 · 18-09-2013 9:50am #1

Not sure if someone's already posted this..

But looks like O'Connor is gettign himself into more bother..

http://www.news.com.au/sport/rugby-gold/wallabies-star-james-oconnor-reportedly-escorted-from-perth-airport-on-sunday-morning/story-fndptke0-1226722286941

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience · 18-09-2013 9:51am

Sums up the attitude and culture in Australian rugby right now.

ColmH81 · 18-09-2013 9:52am

Makes you just want to slap players like this.. Such potential talent and they're f*cking it away...

Swiwi. · 18-09-2013 9:53am

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »

Sums up the attitude and culture in Australian rugby right now.

That's being harsh USME. Sums up JOC, and that's all (+ Beale, but then he has a medical disorder).

ColmH81 · 18-09-2013 9:55am

Swiwi. wrote: »

That's being harsh USME. Sums up JOC, and that's all (+ Beale, but then he has a medical disorder).

What's his medical disorder??

Swiwi. · 18-09-2013 9:56am

ColmH81 wrote: »

What's his medical disorder??

Alcoholism. In his case an addiction. Like Zac Guildford. No different to a gambling addiction.

ColmH81 · 18-09-2013 9:59am

Swiwi. wrote: »

Alcoholism. In his case an addiction. Like Zac Guildford. No different to a gambling addiction.

Ah right.. Yeah, fair enough.. Although "medical condition" Would make me think he has an allergy to it or something...

I reckon JOC will need to go the Beale route and admit to having a problem.. Or else he's going to end up constantly looking like a prat

Swiwi. · 18-09-2013 10:01am

ColmH81 wrote: »

Ah right.. Yeah, fair enough.. Although "medical condition" Would make me think he has an allergy to it or something...

I reckon JOC will need to go the Beale route and admit to having a problem.. Or else he's going to end up constantly looking like a prat

I'm not sure he has a medical problem. More just a prat. The guy has been "endured" by Australian Rugby because he has the ability to be world class. But he's pretty much heading down the Gavin Henson pathway at this rate.

ColmH81 · 18-09-2013 10:03am

Swiwi. wrote: »

he's pretty much heading down the Gavin Henson pathway at this rate.

Couldn't agree more...

Teferi · 18-09-2013 10:18am

Motion to change title of thread to: "James O'Connor: Do we care anymore?".

Kiwi_knock · 18-09-2013 10:27am

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »

Sums up the attitude and culture in Australian rugby right now.

Swiwi. wrote: »

That's being harsh USME. Sums up JOC, and that's all (+ Beale, but then he has a medical disorder).

Genia is meant to have a serious attitude problem as well, it was one of the reasons for him being dropped. He refuses to listen to criticism and will not take on board anything the coaches say to him. The fact Nic White got the full 80 mins against Argentina was meant to be a message to Genia that he is not Australia's only option.

On O'Connor his attitude on the field has shown improvement but obviously off-field is where the ARU and the Force need to see progress. His big mistake this time was probably thinking he could get a flight after post-match celebrations.

molloyjh · 18-09-2013 10:37am

Teferi wrote: »

Motion to change title of thread to: "James O'Connor: Do we care anymore?".

Seconded.

18-09-2013 11:10am

molloyjh wrote: »

Seconded.

FIRST! : D

ColmH81 · 18-09-2013 11:12am

If you don't like the thread.. Don't click on the Thread.. Simple..

.ak · 18-09-2013 11:24am

ColmH81 wrote: »

If you don't like the thread.. Don't click on the Thread.. Simple..

Don't backseat mod - and I don't think the poster was having a go at your OP but rather paraphrasing the title of the Gavin Henson thread.

molloyjh · 18-09-2013 11:38am

ColmH81 wrote: »

If you don't like the thread.. Don't click on the Thread.. Simple..

The post was a joke which played on the title of the Gavin Henson thread, the punchline being the parallels between the two. He wasn't having a go.

Bogota · 18-09-2013 11:44am

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »

Sums up the attitude and culture in Australian rugby right now.

It really doesn't. The Australian media don't hold back when their national players get themselves involved in these sort of incidents. That is simply not the case here. I went to school in one of the big 6 rugby schools so I'm on personal terms with a lot of current players playing in Leinster, Connacht and Ulster and to be perfectly frank you don't even hear 10% of what goes on. Theres a serious amount of covering up. Incidents in nightclubs and claims being brought only for the CCTV tape to go missing, that sort of carry on. Those in charge of the provinces do their uptmost to keep these things out of the papers and its extremely rare for these things to make it to court (obviously when they do the papers will report it like Harrison-Wrigt, Barnes, Howlett, Ferris) but 90% of the time an agreement will be reached or some other underhanded tactics to ensure claims aren't made.

But sure, only Australian rugby players behave like this :rolleyes:

ColmH81 · 18-09-2013 11:47am

.ak wrote: »

Don't backseat mod - and I don't think the poster was having a go at your OP but rather paraphrasing the title of the Gavin Henson thread.

In that case I take it back..

ColmH81 · 18-09-2013 11:49am

molloyjh wrote: »

The post was a joke which played on the title of the Gavin Henson thread, the punchline being the parallels between the two. He wasn't having a go.

I shouldn't have been so quick to whinge

molloyjh · 18-09-2013 11:50am

ColmH81 wrote: »

I shouldn't have been so quick to whinge

It's the curse of the written word. There's no tone or body language.

.ak · 18-09-2013 11:51am

Bogota wrote: »

It really doesn't. The Australian media don't hold back when their national players get themselves involved in these sort of incidents. That is simply not the case here. I went to school in one of the big 6 rugby schools so I'm on personal terms with a lot of current players playing in Leinster, Connacht and Ulster and to be perfectly frank you don't even hear 10% of what goes on. Theres a serious amount of covering up. Incidents in nightclubs and claims being brought only for the CCTV tape to go missing, that sort of carry on. Those in charge of the provinces do their uptmost to keep these things out of the papers and its extremely rare for these things to make it to court (obviously when they do the papers will report it like Harrison-Wrigt, Barnes, Howlett, Ferris) but 90% of the time an agreement will be reached or some other underhanded tactics to ensure claims aren't made.

But sure, only Australian rugby players behave like this :rolleyes:

See post:

.ak wrote: »

USME, Bogota - do not respond to each other on this forum for 1 week.

ColmH81 · 18-09-2013 12:49pm

I'm assuming no one has taken JOC up on his availablity for next season?

Swiwi. · 18-09-2013 2:08pm

ColmH81 wrote: »

I'm assuming no one has taken JOC up on his availablity for next season?

He's supposed to be signing for the Western Force IIRC.

ColmH81 · 18-09-2013 2:22pm

Swiwi. wrote: »

He's supposed to be signing for the Western Force IIRC.

I reckon they'll be hitting the Cancel button..!!!

Do you reckon JOC has gone so far that if he came out saying he has an alcohol addiction, that people wouldn't care?

Swiwi. · 18-09-2013 2:40pm

ColmH81 wrote: »

I reckon they'll be hitting the Cancel button..!!!

Do you reckon JOC has gone so far that if he came out saying he has an alcohol addiction, that people wouldn't care?

He would look like a try-hard. But he's all about image, so I doubt he does or will.

He puts bums on seats, which the Force could do with, and as Kiwi_knock pointed out, Aussie don't have a lot of wingers, so he'll probably still get a contract.

I reckon they should let him go, and concentrate on getting Matt Giteau back into Australian rugby.

thomond2006 · 18-09-2013 2:47pm

Swiwi. wrote: »

He would look like a try-hard. But he's all about image, so I doubt he does or will.

He puts bums on seats, which the Force could do with, and as Kiwi_knock pointed out, Aussie don't have a lot of wingers, so he'll probably still get a contract.

I reckon they should let him go, and concentrate on getting Matt Giteau back into Australian rugby.

Giteau is contracted until 2015.

who_me · 18-09-2013 5:39pm

Bogota wrote: »

It really doesn't. The Australian media don't hold back when their national players get themselves involved in these sort of incidents. That is simply not the case here. I went to school in one of the big 6 rugby schools so I'm on personal terms with a lot of current players playing in Leinster, Connacht and Ulster and to be perfectly frank you don't even hear 10% of what goes on. Theres a serious amount of covering up. Incidents in nightclubs and claims being brought only for the CCTV tape to go missing, that sort of carry on. Those in charge of the provinces do their uptmost to keep these things out of the papers and its extremely rare for these things to make it to court (obviously when they do the papers will report it like Harrison-Wrigt, Barnes, Howlett, Ferris) but 90% of the time an agreement will be reached or some other underhanded tactics to ensure claims aren't made.

But sure, only Australian rugby players behave like this :rolleyes:

Quite probably true. Heard (from an ex-Garda) about a provincial player stopped in an extremely drunken state driving home, instead of being arrested he was given an escort home. Given similar incidents in the past, you'd think the Union/branches/authorities would have learnt their lesson. :mad:

If it's truly happening on a widespread scale, it's not doing anyone any favours, IMO.

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience · 18-09-2013 5:45pm

who_me wrote: »

Quite probably true. Heard (from an ex-Garda) about a provincial player stopped in an extremely drunken state driving home, instead of being arrested he was given an escort home. Given similar incidents in the past, you'd think the Union/branches/authorities would have learnt their lesson. :mad:

If it's truly happening on a widespread scale, it's not doing anyone any favours, IMO.

I was brought home by Guards one night when I was younger. Lost and locked in a rough part of Limerick!

Morf · 18-09-2013 6:13pm

I was worried sick this would be about Niall O'Connor . . .

Buer · 18-09-2013 6:31pm

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »

I was brought home by Guards one night when I was younger. Lost and locked in a rough part of Limerick!

Being taken home when you're a drunk, lost kid/teen and in a rough neighbourhood is one thing. Being taken home when you're drunk and behind the wheel is pretty poxy.

I think we could probably all rattle off a number of incidents that tended to be swept under the carpet or were only alluded to in the media without it ever coming out. Ireland tends to be very insular and a closed shop when it comes to these things with its sports stars and it goes well beyond rugby.

I reckon if JOC was Irish, he'd have a little less coverage but some of the stunts have been so public it would be impossible to keep under wraps regardless of where he lived.

hype101 · 18-09-2013 7:00pm

To be honest his defence has been a bit earls-esque in recent times.. He has a nasty habit of coming in off his wing or off the line and preventing the offload when he needs the discipline to stay out and trust the man inside, particularly when under pressure near the line.. 3 or 4 tries he's cough up over the rugby championship.. A serious attacking talent but not a good defender and not an out half, ala keith earls.. I would drop him regardless

CatFromHue · 18-09-2013 7:42pm

What he's done here isn't really a biggie if you ask me. Not a great thing to happen but not terrible either.

astonaidan · 19-09-2013 12:23am

Bogota wrote: »

It really doesn't. The Australian media don't hold back when their national players get themselves involved in these sort of incidents. That is simply not the case here. I went to school in one of the big 6 rugby schools so I'm on personal terms with a lot of current players playing in Leinster, Connacht and Ulster and to be perfectly frank you don't even hear 10% of what goes on. Theres a serious amount of covering up. Incidents in nightclubs and claims being brought only for the CCTV tape to go missing, that sort of carry on. Those in charge of the provinces do their uptmost to keep these things out of the papers and its extremely rare for these things to make it to court (obviously when they do the papers will report it like Harrison-Wrigt, Barnes, Howlett, Ferris) but 90% of the time an agreement will be reached or some other underhanded tactics to ensure claims aren't made.

But sure, only Australian rugby players behave like this :rolleyes:

This actually happens in my town with the GAA and Rugby lads aswell, Youd think them fecking Aussies would learn how to do a cover up :pac:

19-09-2013 8:16am

CatFromHue wrote: »

What he's done here isn't really a biggie if you ask me. Not a great thing to happen but not terrible either.

if it was AN Other, I'd agree.

But given previous, the fact he's 'in limbo' with regards finding a new team etc, this is just not sweep-under-the-carpet-able.

He's a grown man and what he does outside of rugby is his own business as long as he does it on the field. But, even given that proviso, it would seem prudent to not get in the paper for this kind of stuff given his already tarnished profile.

Himself and Bieber doing their best to drop the squeaky clean image

Swiwi. · 19-09-2013 8:17am

CatFromHue wrote: »

What he's done here isn't really a biggie if you ask me. Not a great thing to happen but not terrible either.

Straw. Camel's back.

stefan idiot jones · 19-09-2013 10:39am

I heard a whisper here in Brisbane last week that he was heading to France. (only a whisper)

ColmH81 · 19-09-2013 10:49am

stefan idiot jones wrote: »

I heard a whisper here in Brisbane last week that he was heading to France. (only a whisper)

French clubs seem to be linked with everyone... Just read now that Conor Murray is being linked with Bayonne and Toulouse...

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience · 19-09-2013 10:55am

ColmH81 wrote: »

French clubs seem to be linked with everyone... Just read now that Conor Murray is being linked with Bayonne and Toulouse...

Phillips won't like that

ColmH81 · 19-09-2013 11:00am

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »

Phillips won't like that

You'd wonder how much truth is in it.. I heard Flood is being linked with Toulon...

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience · 19-09-2013 11:01am

ColmH81 wrote: »

You'd wonder how much truth is in it.. I heard Flood is being linked with Toulon...

Flood is a very good outhalf. Would think there would be a lot of interest for him anyway

ColmH81 · 19-09-2013 12:11pm

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »

Flood is a very good outhalf. Would think there would be a lot of interest for him anyway

Yeah, but when you have Wilko, would you want Flood??(IMO Flood is very hit and miss)..

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience · 19-09-2013 12:15pm

ColmH81 wrote: »

Yeah, but when you have Wilko, would you want Flood??(IMO Flood is very hit and miss)..

He's retiring at the end of the season though !

ColmH81 · 19-09-2013 12:40pm

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »

He's retiring at the end of the season though !

Oh sh*t... Seriously?? I didn't know that..

.ak · 19-09-2013 1:27pm

ColmH81 wrote: »

Oh sh*t... Seriously?? I didn't know that..

The guy is like, 45 or something.

ColmH81 · 19-09-2013 1:44pm

.ak wrote: »

The guy is like, 45 or something.

Still well able to do the job... Would have him over most other 10s...(except Sexton of course.. ha)

CatFromHue · 19-09-2013 6:38pm

Deleted User wrote: »

if it was AN Other, I'd agree.

But given previous, the fact he's 'in limbo' with regards finding a new team etc, this is just not sweep-under-the-carpet-able.

He's a grown man and what he does outside of rugby is his own business as long as he does it on the field. But, even given that proviso, it would seem prudent to not get in the paper for this kind of stuff given his already tarnished profile.

Himself and Bieber doing their best to drop the squeaky clean image

Swiwi. wrote: »

Straw. Camel's back.

Yeah the timing isn't great due to his current job situation and what's gone on before but it's still not a biggie for me. It could well have been that the airline made a balls up with his seats and he got annoyed at this. As soon as he started to tell them his thoughts on the matter, they smelled a bit of booze and used that to imply he was drunk. Did he rebook his flights with the smae airline? I dunno.

Equally he could have been throwing a strop!

JOC: Do you KNOW who I am?
Airline: You're Mr O'Connor.
JOC: I play rugby you know!
Airline: That's great who do you play for?
JOC: Australia and I used to play for the Melbourne Rebels
Airline: I love the Kangaroos but it's the Storm in Melbourne not the Rebels
JOC: No, I play rugby
Airline: Yeah, I love League
JOC: No, I play RUGBY
Airline: Security we have a delirious drunk here!

ColmH81 · 19-09-2013 6:45pm

CatFromHue wrote: »

Yeah the timing isn't great due to his current job situation and what's gone on before but it's still not a biggie for me. It could well have been that the airline made a balls up with his seats and he got annoyed at this. As soon as he started to tell them his thoughts on the matter, they smelled a bit of booze and used that to imply he was drunk. Did he rebook his flights with the smae airline? I dunno.

Equally he could have been throwing a strop!

JOC: Do you KNOW who I am?
Airline: You're Mr O'Connor.
JOC: I play rugby you know!
Airline: That's great who do you play for?
JOC: Australia and I used to play for the Melbourne Rebels
Airline: I love the Kangaroos but it's the Storm in Melbourne not the Rebels
JOC: No, I play rugby
Airline: Yeah, I love League
JOC: No, I play RUGBY
Airline: Security we have a delirious drunk here!

Hahaha.. That actually made me laugh...

astonaidan · 19-09-2013 11:09pm

CatFromHue wrote: »

Yeah the timing isn't great due to his current job situation and what's gone on before but it's still not a biggie for me. It could well have been that the airline made a balls up with his seats and he got annoyed at this. As soon as he started to tell them his thoughts on the matter, they smelled a bit of booze and used that to imply he was drunk. Did he rebook his flights with the smae airline? I dunno.

Equally he could have been throwing a strop!

JOC: Do you KNOW who I am?
Airline: You're Mr O'Connor.
JOC: I play rugby you know!
Airline: That's great who do you play for?
JOC: Australia and I used to play for the Melbourne Rebels
Airline: I love the Kangaroos but it's the Storm in Melbourne not the Rebels
JOC: No, I play rugby
Airline: Yeah, I love League
JOC: No, I play RUGBY
Airline: Security we have a delirious drunk here!

Dont like to ruin the story, but dont they call League footie

CatFromHue · 20-09-2013 12:11am

i thought afl was footie, no?

astonaidan · 20-09-2013 1:11am

CatFromHue wrote: »

i thought afl was footie, no?

Was League to anybody from Sydney/Melbourne, they actually got quiet knarky about calling it anything else

ColmH81 · 20-09-2013 5:45am

astonaidan wrote: »

Dont like to ruin the story, but dont they call League footie

Ah don't ruin it.. Haha.. Valid point though.. :-(

O'Connor in more trouble

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