More Speed Limits for Bikes

Tenzor07 · 23-10-2013 11:47AM

Funny alrite, another unenforced rule, just like the 30kph speed limit in the city center..
They should concentrate on enforcing the 60kph speed limit on the James Larkin road first, some drivers and motorbikers seem to think that it's part of the M50...

seany212121 · 23-10-2013 11:49AM

About time they done this some people can take the piss at times

Seweryn · 23-10-2013 11:57AM

I can't understand how this is going to work.

To obey a speed limit you should know what speed you are doing. For this reason all bikes should be factory equipped with speedometers. So how are they going to prosecute people for speeding on bicycles? At the moment speed limits apply only to motorised vehicles, as they are equipped with speedometers.

Squidgy Black · 23-10-2013 12:12PM

Seweryn wrote: »

I can't understand how this is going to work.

To obey a speed limit you should know what speed you are doing. For this reason all bikes should be factory equipped with speedometers. So how are they going to prosecute people for speeding on bicycles? At the moment speed limits apply only to motorised vehicles, as they are equipped with speedometers.

Majority of roadies who would be breaking the speed limits will be using a speedometer or a garmin anyways, but I agree it's silly. Are the Gardaí going to stand on the roadside and use the speed guns on cyclists? It's such a waste of Gardai resources, have they genuinely nothing else to do? Arresting cyclists for breaking speed limits is ridiculous.

Jawgap · 23-10-2013 12:13PM

There were no speed limits being broken on the Clontarf TT Raceway cycle track this morning.....on the citybound side anyway.

But something did strike me, apart from the reasonably brisk head wind - if a speed limit is introduced, what happens when you get to the end of the Clontarf track at Fairview and proceed on the narrower, rougher track on the path by Fairview Park, or you opt to take the route through the park?

it seems a bit bonkers - to add to the the insanity of the original idea - that a limit would be imposed on a track physically separated from the pedestrian walkways along the prom, but as soon as you get on to a track that uses part of a footpad, with no separation from peds, all bets are off and there's no limit?

Where will it all end, Joe?

check_six · 23-10-2013 12:14PM

Hmm, I smell a government sponsored time trial zone...

check_six · 23-10-2013 12:17PM

Also, has anyone ever resisted the temptation to attempt to get one of those road side speed indicator signs into the red numbers?

They should stick a few of them along the track (probably end up putting them in the middle of the blasted thing).

GoTilUBlow · 23-10-2013 12:28PM

_Tyrrell_ wrote: »

Majority of roadies who would be breaking the speed limits will be using a speedometer or a garmin anyways, but I agree it's silly. Are the Gardaí going to stand on the roadside and use the speed guns on cyclists? It's such a waste of Gardai resources, have they genuinely nothing else to do? Arresting cyclists for breaking speed limits is ridiculous.

Jaysus, let's hope they won't be arresting people for it!! :eek:

Hunterbiker · 23-10-2013 12:35PM

_Tyrrell_ wrote: »

Majority of roadies who would be breaking the speed limits will be using a speedometer or a garmin anyways, but I agree it's silly. Are the Gardaí going to stand on the roadside and use the speed guns on cyclists? It's such a waste of Gardai resources, have they genuinely nothing else to do? Arresting cyclists for breaking speed limits is ridiculous.

Its not calibrated or officially approved so isn't reliable to detirmine a speed in a legal sense as far as I know.

check_six · 23-10-2013 12:44PM

I have just applied for a position with the newly formed Garda Strava Segment Patrol. None shall escape punishment!

tomasrojo · 23-10-2013 12:56PM

GoTilUBlow wrote: »

http://www.stickybottle.com/latest-news/new-us-style-speed-limit-specifically-for-cyclists-to-be-introduced-for-first-time-in-ireland/

Great to see measures imported from the cycling paradise of Austrlia. What can go wrong?

seamus · 23-10-2013 01:01PM

Speed "regulation", only the journos appear to use the word "limit"

Lumen · 23-10-2013 01:01PM

Morons.

07Lapierre · 23-10-2013 01:12PM

Will this mean that a cyclist cycling along the road (not on the cycle path) will not have to abide by the speed limit on the cycle track? (if a limit is set)

AFAIK speed limits on roads do not apply to bicycles and the use of the cycle track along Clontarf is not obligatory.

ednwireland · 23-10-2013 01:13PM

as someone said earlier local elections coming up, plans to abolish/merge councils. so lots of people looking for an easy hit. whether it works or not is irrelevant

Doctor Bob · 23-10-2013 01:13PM

seamus wrote: »

Speed "regulation", only the journos appear to use the word "limit"

The stickybottle story repeats the mistakes of the Indo headline regarding the confusion of speed regulation and speed limits. The NTA has no statutory role regarding speed limits; that's the job of the Department of Transport, who are nowhere namechecked.

Zillah · 23-10-2013 01:25PM

God this is stupid. How on Earth am I suppose to know how fast I am going? How are they? Are there radar guns even calibrated for a small, non-reflective target? I love how the article mentions a "US-style limit", and then points out that the limit is for Central Park. Bikes aren't even allowed in Stephen's Green so it's a very disingenuous comparison.

They should slap a few "Go Slowly" signs, or some "<- Watch for Pedestrians ->" and "<- Watch for Cyclists ->" signs/roadmarkings at a few of the busier sections where pedestrians are likely to be crossing. I genuinely think reminding people to be civil to each other works a hell of a lot better than unenforceable rules.

Anyway, have there been a spate of cyclist/pedestrian collisions along there recently? Has there been a single one? Political show-boating, nothing more.

Stollaire · 23-10-2013 01:25PM

How do you regulate speed for cyclists?
Gates? Those stupid dangerous bumps on the grand canal? traffic lights?

Dermot Illogical · 23-10-2013 01:28PM

Lumen wrote: »

Morons.

What I love about that post is the ambiguity as to who it might be aimed at.

Jawgap · 23-10-2013 01:31PM

Dermot Illogical wrote: »

What I love about that post is the ambiguity as to who it might be aimed at.

It certainly has a Father Jack quality about it..........

check_six · 23-10-2013 01:33PM

Here is an article from last year in Melbourne
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/whats-the-rush-planner-demands-cyclist-speed-limit-20120518-1yw89.html

Some loolah is looking for a 20kph limit for bikes in the city centre, while the motor vehicles are limited to 40kph. Suggests bikes could be a 'silent killer'.

I don't know if there is an update to this, or what the result of any associated election was...

Doctor Bob · 23-10-2013 01:34PM

Stollaire wrote: »

How do you regulate speed for cyclists?
Gates? Those stupid dangerous bumps on the grand canal? traffic lights?

The Dutch use things called bromfietsdrempels to regulate the speed of mopeds on their cycle tracks. They're a type of ramp that causes minimal inconvenience to cyclists going at a medium pace.

http://www.everytrail.com/view_picture.php?picture_id=1966627

Zillah · 23-10-2013 01:38PM

Dermot Illogical wrote: »

What I love about that post is the ambiguity as to who it might be aimed at.

It's aimed at the people instituting a speed limit for bikes. I would have thought that was obvious.

lennymc · 23-10-2013 01:50PM

Doctor Bob wrote: »

The Dutch use things called bromfietsdrempels to regulate the speed of mopeds on their cycle tracks. They're a type of ramp that causes minimal inconvenience to cyclists going at a medium pace.

http://www.everytrail.com/view_picture.php?picture_id=1966627

they would be great for practicing jumps.

deandean · 23-10-2013 01:51PM

Naw the Gardai don't even have to leave their desk. Here are the results for the Clontarf cyclopath. GPS certified, names excluded..... :pac:

Dermot Illogical · 23-10-2013 01:53PM

deandean wrote: »

Naw the Gardai don't even have to leave their desk. Here are the results for the Clontarf cyclopath. GPS certified, names excluded..... :pac:

Which segment?

deandean · 23-10-2013 01:58PM

Dermot Illogical wrote: »

Which segment?

Clontarf Rd bike path Alfie Byrne-Vernon

Inquitus · 23-10-2013 01:58PM

Is Strava admissable as evidence?

Amirani · 23-10-2013 01:58PM

check_six wrote: »

Here is an article from last year in Melbourne
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/whats-the-rush-planner-demands-cyclist-speed-limit-20120518-1yw89.html

Some loolah is looking for a 20kph limit for bikes in the city centre, while the motor vehicles are limited to 40kph. Suggests bikes could be a 'silent killer'.

I don't know if there is an update to this, or what the result of any associated election was...

That's mind numbingly stupid.

Seweryn · 23-10-2013 02:01PM

NiallSparky wrote: »

That's mind numbingly stupid.

Yeah, but this is Australia, a place where cycling is seen as strange activity for strange people that need compulsory helmets and speed limits to be applied to.

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