Best first time car (threads merged)

Mikeyalma · 22-11-2013 11:07PM #1

Hi I am 21 and first time driver I am trying to pick my firat car I have chosen 2 I am interested in new body clio or new body corsa I have a budget of 5000 euro can someone pls hlep me pick a nice first time car.

Toyotafanboi · 22-11-2013 11:14PM

there's probably better alternatives than both.

if i had to chose between the two, probably the clio.

Mikeyalma · 22-11-2013 11:21PM

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

there's probably better alternatives than both.

if i had to chose between the two, probably the clio.

If you had to pick a first time car what would u pick then

coolbeans · 22-11-2013 11:25PM

Mikeyalma wrote: »

If you had to pick a first time car what would u pick then

Clios have decent engines, are class leading in terms of safety and reliable.Better than Polos by a good way.

Toyotafanboi · 22-11-2013 11:33PM

5k first time car?

asuming i was on a provo license and i wanted to keep insurance on the right side of 3k...

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-corolla-1-4-vvt-i-t3/6030659
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/ford-fiesta-07-1-25-zetec-79k-miles-5-dr/5878760
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2008-kia-pro-ceed/5981696
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bravo1-4-t-jet150bhp-tribute-to-maserati/6002866
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/honda-civic-1-3l-new-nct31-01-2016/6030625

i know some of these cars have their own pitfalls also, but all much nicer and could be haggled into budget.

Mikeyalma · 22-11-2013 11:34PM

coolbeans wrote: »

Clios have decent engines, are class leading in terms of safety and reliable.Better than Polos by a good way.

Thats good I like the new body shape on the clio and there cheap and are they good on fuel?

Mikeyalma · 22-11-2013 11:40PM

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

5k first time car?

asuming i was on a provo license and i wanted to keep insurance on the right side of 3k...

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-corolla-1-4-vvt-i-t3/6030659
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/ford-fiesta-07-1-25-zetec-79k-miles-5-dr/5878760
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2008-kia-pro-ceed/5981696
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bravo1-4-t-jet150bhp-tribute-to-maserati/6002866
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/honda-civic-1-3l-new-nct31-01-2016/6030625

i know some of these cars have their own pitfalls also, but all much nicer and could be haggled into budget.

Would the engine size not kill me insurance???....
Id also love to get kia ceed there really nice I think.

Moonbeam · 22-11-2013 11:41PM

I would pick a Polo.
Use the insurance quote websites to get quotes for different cars that will help you to decide.

dgt · 22-11-2013 11:41PM

Not the Corsa anyway that's for sure

Toyotafanboi · 22-11-2013 11:42PM

Mikeyalma wrote: »

Would the engine size not kill me insurance???....
Id also love to get kia ceed there really nice I think.

i doubt there would be much difference insurance wise between a 1.2 clio/ corsa or any of those 1.4's. driven sensibly fuel consumption would be pretty similar too.

Supergurrier · 22-11-2013 11:43PM

For your first time in a car you will first off want plenty of room in the back seats and decent suspension.

Oh wait nevermind my bad

monkey tree · 22-11-2013 11:47PM

Hi there, thought I would offer my thoughts! I am driving a Corsa 1.2 (07) at the moment as my car is in the garage. (My own car is a 1ltr micra ( which I really love)). I was excited to drive the Corsa as I have always admired them, it's a really nice car to handle but it lacks in power when changing up gears. I really don't know anything about cars in a technical sense but it is also guzzling petrol!
Not sure if this helps, and I really couldn't recommend anything but best of luck with your search, it's such an exciting time

Toyotafanboi · 22-11-2013 11:52PM

my dad bought a 1.2 corsa brand new in 08... it was back on warranty within a year for sticking calipers (twice), a replacement flywheel, a replacement heated rear window and a replacement seat belt buckle.

he might have got a bad one, but he only owned it 18 months or so. it just seemed to be problem after problem.

Mikeyalma · 22-11-2013 11:54PM

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

i doubt there would be much difference insurance wise between a 1.2 clio/ corsa or any of those 1.4's. driven sensibly fuel consumption would be pretty similar too.

Thats really helps thank you

Mikeyalma · 22-11-2013 11:56PM

monkey tree wrote: »

Hi there, thought I would offer my thoughts! I am driving a Corsa 1.2 (07) at the moment as my car is in the garage. (My own car is a 1ltr micra ( which I really love)). I was excited to drive the Corsa as I have always admired them, it's a really nice car to handle but it lacks in power when changing up gears. I really don't know anything about cars in a technical sense but it is also guzzling petrol!
Not sure if this helps, and I really couldn't recommend anything but best of luck with your search, it's such an exciting time

Yes it is

o right thats good to knew u mind me asking what year is the corsa

Mikeyalma · 22-11-2013 11:58PM

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

my dad bought a 1.2 corsa brand new in 08... it was back on warranty within a year for sticking calipers (twice), a replacement flywheel, a replacement heated rear window and a replacement seat belt buckle.

he might have got a bad one, but he only owned it 18 months or so. it just seemed to be problem after problem.

O my god thats alot prob with in 18 months dosse he still drive it

monkey tree · 23-11-2013 12:01AM

Mikeyalma wrote: »

Yes it is o right thats good to knew u mind me asking what year is the corsa

its 2007

Toyotafanboi · 23-11-2013 12:02AM

Mikeyalma wrote: »

O my god thats alot prob with in 18 months dosse he still drive it

we traded it in shortly after.

we may have been unlucky, i'm sure they aren't all like that but it doesn't paint a good picture. the dealer said that there was a known issue with the calipers at least.

traded it in for an 09 polo. a car that i would consider a ****heap. but has proven to be much more trouble free for us.

Mikeyalma · 23-11-2013 12:02AM

Moonbeam wrote: »

I would pick a Polo.
Use the insurance quote websites to get quotes for different cars that will help you to decide.

The lowest I got on a websit is 1170 for a corsa

Mikeyalma · 23-11-2013 12:04AM

monkey tree wrote: »

its 2007

Corsas seem like a bad car all round so many problems with them I hear now I have been on here

Mikeyalma · 23-11-2013 12:06AM

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

we traded it in shortly after.

we may have been unlucky, i'm sure they aren't all like that but it doesn't paint a good picture. the dealer said that there was a known issue with the calipers at least.

traded it in for an 09 polo. a car that i would consider a ****heap. but has proven to be much more trouble free for us.

Yeah polo was one I was looking at as well I was thinking higher the engine more cost me

Redrom · 23-11-2013 12:09AM

My missus had a Nissan Micra as her first car and it was brilliant. it was a 01 and never any trouble. they have timing chains instead of timing belts so its one less thing to worry about. brilliant on petrol too. Doesn't look the coolest but it's not too bad. Cheap, tax, cheap petrol, cheap tyres and low on maintenance in general. I'd stay away from the Clio especially if it's an older one. There's very little good with Renaults, bad gear box's and bad electrics amongst other things. Whatever you go for, make sure it's nct'd and if it's not a micra, make sure the timing belt doesn't need to be done because that will set you back another few hundred. Good look with it anyway and safe driving

Mikeyalma · 23-11-2013 12:14AM

Redrom wrote: »

My missus had a Nissan Micra as her first car and it was brilliant. it was a 01 and never any trouble. they have timing chains instead of timing belts so its one less thing to worry about. brilliant on petrol too. Doesn't look the coolest but it's not too bad. Cheap, tax, cheap petrol, cheap tyres and low on maintenance in general. I'd stay away from the Clio especially if it's an older one. There's very little good with Renaults, bad gear box's and bad electrics amongst other things. Whatever you go for, make sure it's nct'd and if it's not a micra, make sure the timing belt doesn't need to be done because that will set you back another few hundred. Good look with it anyway and safe driving

Ah I see I have picked to bad cars kt seems haha I will have to have a look in to the mirca see how thats gos for me....I will have look in to clios bit more see there problems

monkey tree · 23-11-2013 12:16AM

Mikeyalma wrote: »

Corsas seem like a bad car all round so many problems with them I hear now I have been on here

I guess it depends all round, like the condition and service history/mileage of the car you are going to buy, but you need to consider this with all cars anyway. My first car was a corolla and I still pine for it. I mean you cannot go wrong with Toyota. I have also owned a Hyundai Accent and was seriously considering the Getz at one point but got a great deal on my Micra.

Tbh I always consider value when buying a car in terms of service and running costs as well as tax etc, wish I didn't have to and I don't know your financial situation but it's your first car so if it's possible I would advise you to use your heart over your head!!

Mikeyalma · 23-11-2013 12:28AM

monkey tree wrote: »

I guess it depends all round, like the condition and service history/mileage of the car you are going to buy, but you need to consider this with all cars anyway. My first car was a corolla and I still pine for it. I mean you cannot go wrong with Toyota. I have also owned a Hyundai Accent and was seriously considering the Getz at one point but got a great deal on my Micra.

Tbh I always consider value when buying a car in terms of service and running costs as well as tax etc, wish I didn't have to and I don't know your financial situation but it's your first car so if it's possible I would advise you to use your heart over your head!!

I work for penneys last 3yrs so I have a safe job..what do you think is good millage and bad millage I see cars at like 150m but still go for 8000 euro so does mills not matter

bazz26 · 23-11-2013 12:36AM

I'd be looking at the Ford Fiesta, my sister has one for the last 4 years and it hasn't given a day's trouble despite her not looking after it the best.

You should be able to pick up a 2007 model on your budget:

http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Ford/Fiesta/STEEL-1.25/36313737234778220/

DarkJager · 23-11-2013 12:39AM

I'd avoid the Corsa specifically because of the plastic gear linkage used in them. I owned one for 2 years and in that time the linkage snapped 3 times. Not so fun being on a motorway at 120kph to find the gear stick swinging freely around.

Mikeyalma · 23-11-2013 12:42AM

bazz26 wrote: »

I'd be looking at the Ford Fiesta, my sister has one for the last 4 years and it hasn't given a day's trouble despite her not looking after it the best.

You should be able to pick up a 2007 model on your budget:

http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Ford/Fiesta/STEEL-1.25/36313737234778220/

Ford seem to be good pick in cars did ur sisters insurance cost much...did it eat fuel

Mikeyalma · 23-11-2013 12:43AM

DarkJager wrote: »

I'd avoid the Corsa specifically because of the plastic gear linkage used in them. I owned one for 2 years and in that time the linkage snapped 3 times. Not so fun being on a motorway at 120kph to find the gear stick swinging freely around.

Christ haha I had pick clio and coras cos the engine size and I do see alot them on the road so I thouth the were very good car and they where cheap I am bad picking cars it seems

monkey tree · 23-11-2013 12:46AM

Mikeyalma wrote: »

I work for penneys last 3yrs so I have a safe job..what do you think is good millage and bad millage I see cars at like 150m but still go for 8000 euro so does mills not matter[/QUOT

Miles matter deffo but also along with mileage is a service history you can trust from a reputable garage. I really wouldn't advise buying privately either, my friend just got badly stung with a ford focus 2005 that they bought from a local guy on the side of the road. They paid 4,000 for the car and have ended up having to replace the engine. It has cost them a further 2,000 euros on top of what they paid for it initially.

Moral of the story, have someone you know that has an idea about cars test drive it for you before you purchase. I have over 200,000 KM on the Micra ( 2006), I do an insane amount of driving and I approached a garage to check out what kind of trade in value I would get for it and I was told not much because of mileage. Although I will repeat myself and say that the service history is all important in conjunction with mileage

j4vier · 23-11-2013 12:49AM

I never tried a clio so cant compare , but i own a 08 corsa and it has been pretty much hassle free until now at least

bazz26 · 23-11-2013 12:50AM

Mikeyalma wrote: »

Ford seem to be good pick in cars did ur sisters insurance cost much...did it eat fuel

I'm afraid what my sister is paying for in insurance will have little baring on what it might cost you, too many different variables. The Fiesta is not heavy on petrol though and the 1.25 engine is quite spirited for it's size.

Mikeyalma · 23-11-2013 12:55AM

monkey tree wrote: »

Mikeyalma wrote: »

I work for penneys last 3yrs so I have a safe job..what do you think is good millage and bad millage I see cars at like 150m but still go for 8000 euro so does mills not matter[/QUOT

Miles matter deffo but also along with mileage is a service history you can trust from a reputable garage. I really wouldn't advise buying privately either, my friend just got badly stung with a ford focus 2005 that they bought from a local guy on the side of the road. They paid 4,000 for the car and have ended up having to replace the engine. It has cost them a further 2,000 euros on top of what they paid for it initially.

Moral of the story, have someone you know that has an idea about cars test drive it for you before you purchase. I have over 200,000 KM on the Micra ( 2006), I do an insane amount of driving and I approached a garage to check out what kind of trade in value I would get for it and I was told not much because of mileage. Although I will repeat myself and say that the service history is all important in conjunction with mileage

I was thinking I should buy from a garage I am not best person to ask about cars so I would like buy off someone wouldnt try not to feck me over and I would bring someone with me

Mikeyalma · 23-11-2013 12:58AM

j4vier wrote: »

I never tried a clio so cant compare , but i own a 08 corsa and it has been pretty much hassle free until now at least

How long have you had ur corsa and have u had any big problems with it

Mikeyalma · 23-11-2013 01:00AM

bazz26 wrote: »

I'm afraid what my sister is paying for in insurance will have little baring on what it might cost you, too many different variables. The Fiesta is not heavy on petrol though and the 1.25 engine is quite spirited for it's size.

I see I will diffo look in to the fiesta I like fords its safe make

bazz26 · 23-11-2013 01:05AM

I'd ring insurance companies too, online quotes are not designed for first time drivers so they tend to either quote silly money or not at all.

Mikeyalma · 23-11-2013 01:10AM

bazz26 wrote: »

I'd ring insurance companies too, online quotes are not designed for first time drivers so they tend to either quote silly money or not at all.

Do you knew any good companys for first time drivers.

EazyD · 23-11-2013 01:25AM

Mitsubishi Colt? 1.1 or 1.3, I'd personally choose the latter.

MuppetCheck · 23-11-2013 10:39AM

Herself has a 2007 1.2 SXi Corsa the last few years and bar a heater resistor its been faultless. I think the interior is solid, the sports seats are excellent and it handles well. I've driven the lower spec Club too but found that very soft when cornering and the seats arent great. In either one the engine is a bit overwhelmed, its 80-odd bhp which you would assume would be fine in a supermini but it isn't.

I'd look for a 1.4 SXi if I was buying one, otherwise I'd be looking at a Mazda 2 like this:http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2008-mazda-2-1-3/5098242

j4vier · 23-11-2013 12:41PM

Mikeyalma wrote: »

How long have you had ur corsa and have u had any big problems with it

Since may 08 bought new. I only use it to drive in The city so i ve yet to reach 50,000 km and never had any major issues.

C.K Dexter Haven · 23-11-2013 05:18PM

Corsa 1.2 is a very sluggish car OP- as others have said, Polo or Fiesta. You should get a crack'in first car for 5k.

dr.fuzzenstein · 23-11-2013 08:13PM

I always though the steering of the Corsa was a bit non-direct.
When I found the actual blue print of the car online, I understood why:

Here is an early prototype:

Moneymaker · 23-11-2013 08:31PM

Fiat Panda is a great little car. You'd get a great one for 5k.

wildcatares22 · 23-11-2013 10:19PM

Toyota yaris or a corolla. plenty of them out there. if you buy privately, get a decent independent mechanic from your area to check it out for you once you see one you really like.

bald goose · 23-11-2013 10:55PM

Corsa all day long

Mikeyalma · 24-11-2013 12:20AM

Sitec wrote: »

My sister has an 04 Clio. Hasn't missed a beat in the 18 months. She had a mk3 Golf before that it and it was a complete disaster.

The Clio is actually a nice car to drive, some parts of the interior don't feel well put together but it's a nice drive despite feeling relatively light on the road

I love the look of the clio I knda got set back when so many ppl said they were bad...what didnt u like about the clio

Mikeyalma · 24-11-2013 12:22AM

Why so have u corsa urself

bald goose wrote: »

Corsa all day long

Mikeyalma · 24-11-2013 12:24AM

How much would it cost to have someone loook car witb me ??????

What millage is to much on a corolla

shedweller · 24-11-2013 01:02AM

Mikeyalma wrote: »

I love the look of the clio I knda got set back when so many ppl said they were bad...what didnt u like about the clio

They're french. The lotto odds of getting a lemon are far far higher. Japaneese crap wont let you down but there seems to be some sort of vendetta against them. Im talking about first time drivers here, not pro driver, nurburgring material. Thats different.
Had a clio myself and by and large it was ok but after a while it didnt like the rain and stalled a lot. Drove jap crap after that and wouldn't you know, they never gave a seconds trouble!
Basically op, you need cheap jap crap. It will not let you down. French crap will let you down. It simply will. It may look nicer but it wont look too good stuck on the side of the road with some piece of bull**** broken under the bonnet. Been there done that. They all say they're better this time around but "they" have been proven wrong time and time again.
A first time driver needs something reliable. Cheap french cars are not.

CSSE09 · 24-11-2013 12:10PM

Have an 07 corsa myself, only trouble I've had with it was with one of the electric windows. Cheap to run and my insurance wasn't bad on a learners permit. It is a bit sluggish to get going but it's not to bad.

Mikeyalma · 24-11-2013 12:38PM

What cars are jap cars now

shedweller wrote: »

They're french. The lotto odds of getting a lemon are far far higher. Japaneese crap wont let you down but there seems to be some sort of vendetta against them. Im talking about first time drivers here, not pro driver, nurburgring material. Thats different.
Had a clio myself and by and large it was ok but after a while it didnt like the rain and stalled a lot. Drove jap crap after that and wouldn't you know, they never gave a seconds trouble!
Basically op, you need cheap jap crap. It will not let you down. French crap will let you down. It simply will. It may look nicer but it wont look too good stuck on the side of the road with some piece of bull**** broken under the bonnet. Been there done that. They all say they're better this time around but "they" have been proven wrong time and time again.
A first time driver needs something reliable. Cheap french cars are not.

Best first time car (threads merged)

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