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2 full time jobs for a short period? (using remaining annual leave at previous job)

  • 03-02-2014 10:34PM
    #1
    pauljohn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 ✭


    I am looking at changing job, and I have reasons to want to remain a full time employee of my current company for about 2 weeks after the new one would like me to start.

    This is technically possible because I have enough annual leave that I could use with my current employer to cover for that period.

    My question is to know if there is any legal or practical reason why this would be a bad idea? (would the tax office care about this, are there any labour laws to prevent this, would I be breaking my employment contracts, etc?)

    Thanks a lot for you help!


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  • #2
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Nothing I can think of but you will pay a lot of tax for those two weeks if you are paid by both employers for that time


  • #3
    pauljohn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 ✭pauljohn


    Stheno wrote: »
    Nothing I can think of but you will pay a lot of tax for those two weeks if you are paid by both employers for that time

    Thanks, yes none only would I have double income for that period, but I guess I would also be on emergency tax with my new employer as I wouldn't have my P45 from the old one (which could be awkward if they ask for it and i have to explain why I don't have it yet).

    I am not too worried about the tax aspect though as worst case scenario it will even out at the end of the year when my total income is clarified with Revenue. As long as I don't do anything illegal and don't put myself in a tricky situation with any of the employers I would be happy.


  • #4
    Eoin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,263 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    One thing to bear in mind is that they do not have to let you take your annual leave during your notice period and might choose to have you work it all, and pay you your leave instead. It might be a good idea to have a plan in place for handing over your work / training up someone else / finishing up whatever you're working on in advance of any conversation about your finish date.

    You need to check your contracts to see if you're breaking the terms of either one; I don't know if there are any specific laws that might prohibit it.
    pauljohn wrote:
    (which could be awkward if they ask for it and i have to explain why I don't have it yet)

    Nah, some companies can be a bit slow sorting that out, so it wouldn't be unusual for there to be a delay. I think there's another form you can fill out in the meantime.


  • #5
    pauljohn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 ✭pauljohn


    Thanks Eoin!

    Actually the start date or the new job would be in a bit over a month and a half, so I would be serving a full one month notice period in the old job and then ask them if I can still be an employee for another 2 weeks with my unused holidays instead of them paying them to me (my reasons is that there is a date at which I still would like to be an employee to get benefits linked to the job, but my new employer does not seem to appear to be ready to wait until then for me to start). I know they don't have to saw yes but I can always try and I think they will.


  • #6
    inforfun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,863 ✭✭✭✭inforfun


    How did you manage to get enough annual leave together in 1 month so that you can take 2 weeks of at your old employer?
    Had days left from last year?


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  • #7
    pauljohn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 ✭pauljohn


    inforfun wrote: »
    How did you manage to get enough annual leave together in 1 month so that you can take 2 weeks of at your old employer?
    Had days left from last year?

    Yes this is a clear policy at my employer which allows to carry over part of your annual leave from one year to another, so no issue there :-)


  • #8
    Mrs OBumble
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,453 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    pauljohn wrote: »
    I would be serving a full one month notice period in the old job and then ask them if I can still be an employee for another 2 weeks with my unused holidays instead of them paying them to me (my reasons is that there is a date at which I still would like to be an employee to get benefits linked to the job

    Is there a financial cost to your employer of you getting these benefits? If so, then they might not be keen.

    By all means, submit a resignation giving notice in six weeks time and a leave application for A/L in the last two weeks at the same time. And possibly talk to your manager first so s/he knows what's coming.

    Provided old-job accepts the deal, then I cannot see a problem.

    Even the tax situation should work itself out after a few weeks: you will pay emergency tax at new-job until you either submit a P45 or tell Revenue about the situation. In fact - ring them up and they should split your credits so that old-job has just enough to cover it, and new-job gets some straight away.


  • #9
    pauljohn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 ✭pauljohn


    Thanks a lot of all the feedback!

    Yes there would be a cost to the company, so from a purely rational point of view there is no real incentive for them to accept.

    But I am in good terms with my manager and my plan was actually to play it exactly as you described and see what he says. If he is OK with it I think HR can be managed.

    If it doesn't work out it is not a deal-breaker for me, worst case scenario they say no and I am losing this nice to have benefit - I was just wondering if it was worth trying and I wouldn't be looking for trouble by doing this (it sounds kind of strange to hold 2 full time positions at the same time :-)).


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