going to be homeless can anyone help

damianandsusan · 09-04-2014 09:42AM #1

can anyone help me, my family are going to be homeless at the end of this Month and i feel so helpless for my family, we have had our story in the newspaper and nothing has happened, is there anyone that can help me fight for a council house? I have been onto tds, council, newspapers, solicitors and im still getting a no on everything, i am part of the redress and nobody will help me, i am being pushed around to Long and cant Take it anymore, the council said they are going to put me into a hostel or Hotel but how am i Supposed to feed my Kids Proper Meals everyday and wash clothes and all of us will be in the one room, can anyone help me?

Gatling · 09-04-2014 09:44AM

How come your been made homeless ,
Can't find another property to rent or other

damianandsusan · 09-04-2014 09:54AM

Gatling wrote: »

How come your been made homeless ,
Can't find another property to rent or other

Because the Landlord is putting his rent up and i can not pay 1250, plus im on rent allowance and no landlord out there will Take it anymore, there are 5 boarded up houses in the housing Estate beside us and the council refuse to give us one so they are Willing to put me in a Hotel or hostel and Willing to pay 2000 euro a week for us to stay there when we have offered them a way out. A third party has offered to do the house up for us without a Penny Coming out of their pocket because i am part of the redress board and yet they still refuse

username123 · 09-04-2014 10:21AM

So the council are willing to put you up in a hostel or hotel - so you wont be on the streets at least.

Can you move to another area where there is a landlord that will take rent allowance?

I dont know what "the redress" is - maybe you can elaborate?

Perhaps you could elaborate a bit more generally, why are they refusing to put you on the list for a council house for example?

Are you or your wife in employment?

Gatling · 09-04-2014 10:31AM

Sorry but like the rest of us waiting on a council list all you can do is wait your turn ,there under no obligation just to hand you a house ,
I'd be looking futher afield for another house where rents are generally cheaper

damianandsusan · 09-04-2014 10:34AM

username123 wrote: »

So the council are willing to put you up in a hostel or hotel - so you wont be on the streets at least.

Can you move to another area where there is a landlord that will take rent allowance?

I dont know what "the redress" is - maybe you can elaborate?

Perhaps you could elaborate a bit more generally, why are they refusing to put you on the list for a council house for example?

Are you or your wife in employment?

No we are not in employment at the minute, we are on the housing List and we have not found any house that Takes rent allowance anywhere, we have Looked outside Dublin too and still no luck, the redress is for people that were in government homes and institutes

Rekop dog · 09-04-2014 10:36AM

If you put as much effort into finding a job maybe you wouldn't be in such a state. Crazy sense of entitlement here.

Synyster Shadow · 09-04-2014 10:39AM

Have you looked into the RAS scheme? Your receiving rent allowance so you probably qualify for it. Landlords go for this quicker as it goes through the council.
Could take a month to sort but its something stable if you get it

damianandsusan · 09-04-2014 10:50AM

Gatling wrote: »

Sorry but like the rest of us waiting on a council list all you can do is wait your turn ,there under no obligation just to hand you a house ,
I'd be looking futher afield for another house where rents are generally cheaper

You Obviously are Living Somewhere and not in need of a house my family are homeless in a couple of weeks with Nowhere to go so you dont Know how it feels to be in this situation

username123 · 09-04-2014 10:57AM

damianandsusan wrote: »

No we are not in employment at the minute, we are on the housing List and we have not found any house that Takes rent allowance anywhere, we have Looked outside Dublin too and still no luck, the redress is for people that were in government homes and institutes

So you ARE on the housing list, its not that the council wont give you a council house, they just wont bump you up the list. You say you cant find any house that takes rent allowance. What search criteria are you using to find somewhere? What about a smaller place, an apartment?

I find it difficult to believe that there is no property in the entirety of Dublin or surrounds where the landlord does not take rent allowance? What do all the other people who are on rent allowance do?

Sorry, you will have to explain to me what the relevance of the redress is? How does this affect the problem?

Neyite · 09-04-2014 10:58AM

damianandsusan wrote: »

You Obviously are Living Somewhere and not in need of a house my family are homeless in a couple of weeks with Nowhere to go so you dont Know how it feels to be in this situation

But you dont have 'nowhere' to go. The council are offering you somewhere to live at a cost of €2,000 a week! That's not 'homeless'.
But no. You want a house. And you want a specific one. Do the council even own it?

What kind of help are you looking for here? You say that you've spoken to the council, TD's, the media, and taken legal advice so I dont know what solutions you think people on the internet can provide?

damianandsusan · 09-04-2014 10:58AM

Rekop dog wrote: »

If you put as much effort into finding a job maybe you wouldn't be in such a state. Crazy sense of entitlement here.

Dont you dare Talk to me Like that finding a job is hard enough in this country its hard enough that i am losing my home too, you dont Know what i have gone threw in Life over this government and the likes of people like you make me sick Looking down on people thinking you are Better than them because you Probably have more money than us or you own your own house, it does not Matter we are all the same at the end of the day and all have rights

damianandsusan · 09-04-2014 11:10AM

username123 wrote: »

So you ARE on the housing list, its not that the council wont give you a council house, they just wont bump you up the list. You say you cant find any house that takes rent allowance. What search criteria are you using to find somewhere? What about a smaller place, an apartment?

I find it difficult to believe that there is no property in the entirety of Dublin or surrounds where the landlord does not take rent allowance? What do all the other people who are on rent allowance do?

Sorry, you will have to explain to me what the relevance of the redress is? How does this affect the problem?

Well you go and find one for me then if you think it is so easy to find one,find one for 2 adults and 5 children and then when you do you will see that i am right there are none out there, and as for Other people out there they are probably renewing there Lease as that is something i Cannot do!!

Rekop dog · 09-04-2014 11:13AM

damianandsusan wrote: »

Dont you dare Talk to me Like that finding a job is hard enough in this country its hard enough that i am losing my home too, you dont Know what i have gone threw in Life over this government and the likes of people like you make me sick Looking down on people thinking you are Better than them because you Probably have more money than us or you own your own house, it does not Matter we are all the same at the end of the day and all have rights

What rights? To be fast tracked up a council housing list because your shouting louder than others?

Stop saying you're being made homeless when it clearly isn't the case. You're not being put in a place that meets your perceived standards of what someone who doesn't provide themselves should deserve but perhaps you need to reevaluate this and stop relying on handouts to provide for your family.

username123 · 09-04-2014 11:13AM

damianandsusan wrote: »

Well you go and find one for me then if you think it is so easy to find one,find one for 2 adults and 5 children and then when you do you will see that i am right there are none out there, and as for Other people out there they are probably renewing there Lease as that is something i Cannot do!!

You'll have to give me more info. How much is rent allowance? Are you allowed add your own money to that value? If you are, how much can you afford to add to it?

damianandsusan · 09-04-2014 11:14AM

Synyster Shadow wrote: »

Have you looked into the RAS scheme? Your receiving rent allowance so you probably qualify for it. Landlords go for this quicker as it goes through the council.
Could take a month to sort but its something stable if you get it

They said they have to be in contact with us first to receive the ras scheme

damianandsusan · 09-04-2014 11:19AM

Neyite wrote: »

But you dont have 'nowhere' to go. The council are offering you somewhere to live at a cost of €2,000 a week! That's not 'homeless'.
But no. You want a house. And you want a specific one. Do the council even own it?

What kind of help are you looking for here? You say that you've spoken to the council, TD's, the media, and taken legal advice so I dont know what solutions you think people on the internet can provide?

Yes i obviously need a Specific house because i have Kids in school and i have a Large family

Taltos · 09-04-2014 11:21AM

OK all - I know this is an emotive issue, especially with the rates and taxes many of us are having to pay, however - if you cannot post in a civil manner or offer constructive advice to the OP please don't post. Rekop dog, I'm thinking of you here.

OP - similarly, if you disagree with suggestions offered don't respond or feel you have to defend yourself, otherwise you too risk being sanctioned. Remember, posters here are entitled to their opinions and there is no guarantee you will like their advice, once it is offered inline with our charter.

ElleEm · 09-04-2014 11:30AM

How much rent allowance do you get and what part of Dublin are you in?
Have you liaised with any homeless organisation to explain your situation? Focus Ireland and the Simon Community often provide accommodation for people and families in need. They may also be able to provide you with a list of places that do take rent allowance.

I know that you are stressed about this, but please understand that most of the posters here are trying to help. They are taking time out of their day to respond to you here.

Highflyer13 · 09-04-2014 11:31AM

Entitlement mentality in this country is a sham. Wtf am I breaking my balls for paying for mistakes of the greedy and our generous social system. Working to pay rent, educate and feed myself while there are many getting a free ride..... system is a joke. Be proactive and update your skills, find a job or emigrate.

Penny Tration · 09-04-2014 11:32AM

damianandsusan wrote: »

Yes i obviously need a Specific house because i have Kids in school and i have a Large family

Not to be cheeky, but you do not 'need' a specific house. You want a specific house.

Yes, it's horrible losing your home, and believe me, i feel for you. I really do.

But the council are willing to accommodate you. You may not like the accommodation, but it's on offer. Your children can change schools if necessary. I changed schools 5 times due to moving (not council housing, my folks bought new places), and it was fine. Kids adjust.

Tbh, i don't know what advice we can give. It sounds as though you've exhausted all possible options. But to be really blunt - you are not being made homeless. You're being offered accommodation. Yes, it's far from ideal, but when you're relying on social payments and government help (and that is not a dig, i think it's great that these systems are in place to help people), you take what you can get.

damianandsusan · 09-04-2014 11:32AM

Rekop dog wrote: »

What rights? To be fast tracked up a council housing list because your shouting louder than others?

Stop saying you're being made homeless when it clearly isn't the case. You're not being put in a place that meets your perceived standards of what someone who doesn't provide themselves should deserve but perhaps you need to reevaluate this and stop relying on handouts to provide for your family.

Dont tell me what i should do for my family, and YES i am being made homeless, and i hope one day you wont Know how it feels, and whoever your wife or husband is i feel so sorry for them to have you as their partner because you have no Heart for people that are in these situations. As i said you are no Better than me Maybe you have more money or a house to call home but just Remember we all go into the same size hole when were Dead. Dont comment Back because you obviously dont care about people in these situations

Taltos · 09-04-2014 11:37AM

Highflyer & damian - this is your last chance - any more messing about and we will start issuing infractions & bans or just close the thread.

username123 · 09-04-2014 11:37AM

Can the OP please answer how much rent allowance they get and if they are allowed to add to it etc?

No offence OP, but ranting and raving is not going to help. You need to give the facts and let people answer and/or make suggestions. But without more info I cant see how anyone can assist.

GreeBo · 09-04-2014 11:44AM

damianandsusan wrote: »

Dont tell me what i should do for my family, and YES i am being made homeless, and i hope one day you wont Know how it feels, and whoever your wife or husband is i feel so sorry for them to have you as their partner because you have no Heart for people that are in these situations. As i said you are no Better than me Maybe you have more money or a house to call home but just Remember we all go into the same size hole when were Dead. Dont comment Back because you obviously dont care about people in these situations

OP being in the situation of having a wife and 5 kids with no income and no home that you own basically means you have to take what you can get.
In many cases this would be nothing. the council in this case appear to be offering you accommodation while you wait for a more permanent residence to become available.
I'm not really sure what else you expect them to do here? There aren't a raft of 5 bedroom houses lying in wait that the council can just hand to you.

Mycroft H · 09-04-2014 12:02PM

Where exactly have you gone looking for a RA property? How much are you entitled to in RA?

monflat · 09-04-2014 12:13PM

Unless you have a child with a physical disability who cannot make it up the stairs and needs space for specialised equipment
A three bed would be fine cant the children share?
We are mortgage payers and our children will have to share if we have more than three .

gazzer · 09-04-2014 12:16PM

OP. So that people can help you why dont you state:

How much rent allowance you currently get
Do you add any money to this to make up the shortfall on rent
How much money do you get from Social Welfare (jobseekers allowance, child benefit etc)
What area in Dublin do you live in and what areas are you looking for a house in?

Then we could do a search on the likes of daft.ie to find houses in the price range.

You have 5 kids so at most you need a 3 bedroomed house.

gazzer · 09-04-2014 12:20PM

Here are 29 properties available on DAFT.ie at the moment for €1100 a month or less. Do any of these meet your requirement?

http://www.daft.ie/searchrental.daft?s%5Bcc_id%5D=c1&s%5Ba_id%5D=&s%5Bmnp%5D=&s%5Bmxp%5D=1100&s%5Bmnb%5D=3&s%5Bmxb%5D=&s%5Bpt_id%5D=2&search=1&s%5Ba_id_transport%5D=0&s%5Bmove_in_date%5D=0&s%5Bfurn%5D=0&s%5Bsearch_type%5D=rental&s%5Brefreshmap%5D=1

Gatling · 09-04-2014 12:40PM

Just for posters who don't know RA

Maximum RA per month is €1000 ( depending on location)with a minimum contribution of €40pw from a couple

username123 · 09-04-2014 12:46PM

This one here says "Rent Allowance Accepted", it's in Dublin, 3 bedroom, and its 1000 euro a month.

http://www.daft.ie/lettings/bungalow-old-naas-road-beside-luas-red-line-ballyfermot-dublin/1397447/

ted1 · 09-04-2014 12:47PM

Gatling wrote: »

Just for posters who don't know RA

Maximum RA per month is €1000 with a minimum contribution of €40pw from a couple

Doesn't it differ per council?

See the link for limits per county
http://www.moneyguideireland.com/category/rent-allowance

username123 · 09-04-2014 12:51PM

ted1 wrote: »

Doesn't it differ per council?

According to this link:
http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/social_welfare_payments/supplementary_welfare_schemes/rent_supplement.html

It would be 1000 euro in the OPs case (I think).

Gatling · 09-04-2014 12:53PM

ted1 wrote: »

Doesn't it differ per council?

See the link for limits per county
http://www.moneyguideireland.com/category/rent-allowance

Its more county in general

Ive attached the current rates

ted1 · 09-04-2014 01:17PM

Here's a houses in your budget. all these are within the county budget

when you getting a house for free you can't be too picky. Even those people with 2 parents working and kids they can afford to have can't live in place they want to.

http://www.daft.ie/lettings/no-2-birchill-creeslough-donegal/1435193/

http://www.daft.ie/lettings/allendale-drive-baltinglass-wicklow/1434589/

http://www.daft.ie/lettings/slaney-park-baltinglass-wicklow/1418176/

freshpopcorn · 09-04-2014 01:42PM

When I read the the title of this thread I thought of a family with young kids on the streets with no roof over ye're heads. You have a place to go so ye have shelter, light, water, bathing facilities. so thing could be a lot worse. Talk to the council about meals/washing clothes. They might be able to organise something. Also do ye have friends/family/siblinge /ye're parents living nearby I'm sure they'll help ye out regarding washing clothes/cooking etc.
How many rooms do ye need? I know of family that had had up to 10 kids and they survived in a small 2 bed house this was back in the 1960s tough but if it worked back then it can work now. I know of a women who raised 7 kids in 3 bed house during the 2000s and it took her ages to get the house. But she eventually got it.
I don't mean to be rude in this point but ye would want to start using contraception because you don't want your family growing any bigger if ye're struggling this much.

RossFixxxed · 09-04-2014 02:13PM

1) You aren't being made homeless, you just won't have a house. It's not good, but it's not what the title of this thread lead me to believe and that is a little aggrivating to be honest.

2) What really gets to me is that you say 'nobody will take rent allowance'. I just phoned up on one of the properties on daft offered and the guy was MORE than happy to take rent allowance "it's all money to me" is how it was phrased.

If I'm to be blunt here, I do sympathise with you, but I cannot shake the feeling that something more is going on here. It seems to me after 1 minute online and a half a minute phone call you CAN get a place, but you don't want any old place you want something specific and are saying you can't get anything at all to justify this position. There's too much melodrama here and it isn't helping you. The posters here always want to help but the fact so many have found somting amiss here suggests to me that something may well be amiss. What is the FULL story here?

Keep applying for jobs non stop and show it to a landlord. You should be applying daily 7 days a week so you'd have loads of proof of this too which will shore up your case. I know it's hard to find work, but I've been there, and I spent from 9 - 5 every single day looking for work until I got something. It's exhausting, it's miserable at times, it's demotivating but it is for your family. Keep going.

ash23 · 09-04-2014 03:59PM

OP I was living somewhere and the landlord rang me one evening to tell me it had been sold and I needed to be out within the month. It's a big shock and very distressing and it makes it very difficult to be positive about a move when it's being forced upon you so I do understand where you are coming from.

I suppose I was fortunate in that I rent privately so once I'd gotten over the shock I had a fairly good selection of houses for myself and my child which I understand you wouldn't have the same choice being on RA. However I work full time and struggle to pay for everything myself and my child need without any assistance so I think you should be a bit more appreciative about the assistance that you and your family do get. I also could never afford to have more than one child so I would be grateful that you are able to keep your family together and warm, fed and sheltered while unemployed with no income.

Unfortunately you won't have the opportunity to choose your home for as long as you are on state assistance and really just have to go with what is offered.
As for who to go to, I don't think it's really a pressing matter compared to most cases that go before the council and TDs etc. so I doubt you and your family will be prioritised as you won't actually be homeless

suicide_circus · 09-04-2014 04:12PM

So let me get this straight OP, unless the council offers you a free house which meets your specific criteria, you will put your yourself and your kids out on the street rather than relocating to the accommodation the council are able to provide?
If this is the case OP, i would suggest you contact social services and inform them that you are no longer fit to look after the best interests for your children and have them taken into care. And yes, I am deadly serious.
You're in a tough spot in your life and I sympathise. That however does not excuse the melodrama and cringeworthy sense of entitlement you display here.
Make the best of the situation, be glad you live in a counrty with an over generous social protection system, put your kids first and accept the accommodation on offer.
This stuff beggars belief.

Boldberry · 09-04-2014 04:31PM

Actually you are classed as homeless if you are living in temporary accommodation such as a hostel or hotel. Having worked in a couple over the years I would nearly prefer to sleep rough too. OP, I can't offer much more advice other than to get in touch with Dublin Simon or Focus, however I know for a fact that they are struggling to deal with these cases presently.

retro:electro · 09-04-2014 04:32PM

OP your attitude to posters who are taking time out if their day to help you is disgraceful. Is this how you engage with most people? If so you need to evaluate how you speak to people.

nc19 · 09-04-2014 04:33PM

damianandsusan wrote: »

Well you go and find one for me then if you think it is so easy to find one,find one for 2 adults and 5 children and then when you do you will see that i am right there are none out there, and as for Other people out there they are probably renewing there Lease as that is something i Cannot do!!

So you chose to have 3 more kids than is currently the average for families in ireland and now cant support them but you want the government and the tax payer to support your family.

what qualifications do you or your wife have to help your job seeking?

Boldberry · 09-04-2014 04:35PM

anna080 wrote: »

OP your attitude to posters who are taking time out if their day to help you is disgraceful. Is this how you engage with most people? If so you need to evaluate how you speak to people.

In fairness so is the attitude of most of the largely ignorant of the issues posters, po faced nonsense out of most of them.

Tokyo · 09-04-2014 04:44PM

nc19 - the OP's family choices are NOT up for debate and discussion here. If you can't post constructively and somewhere in the ballpark of the OP's problem, then don't post here again.

Boldberry- If you have an issue with what somebody else has post it, report it, don't denigrate it in-thread.

Considering that there have already been two in-thread requests to keep on topic and to offer constructive advice to the OP, infractions issued.

Regards,
Mike

Czarcasm · 09-04-2014 05:30PM

OP while you still have internet access, you have the ability to google homeless services in Dublin, some of whom will only take referrals from DCC, some of whom you can approach directly to ask for assistance.

Not to put too fine a point on it but you're entitled to fcukall really, and when you're being offered a hostel or hotel, you, your partner, and your five children should consider yourselves very, very lucky. I've been homeless myself a number of years ago and today one of the organisations I work with is a homeless charity. I see them literally having to fight for every cent they get, and fight even harder for their service users, some of whom are the most ungrateful bastards I've ever had the displeasure to lay eyes on.

I say this somewhat in the hope that you will take it on board as constructive advice and in no way meant to belittle you when you're in what is already a very stressful situation, but you need to dial back a few notches on the melodrama, soap boxing and grandstanding and concentrate your energies on engaging with whomever is providing you with assistance in finding accommodation for you and your family, be it a house, hostel, apartment, or even a hotel.

The people who work in the homeless services I'm aware of, often go above and beyond in ways their service users will never be aware of, because they do it in the background rather than getting up on their soap box and expecting people will automatically prioritize their needs above the hundreds of other people that are looking to be housed who are in far more dire circumstances than you are tbh. Naturally enough you can say you don't give a fiddlers about them as you're only concerned with yourself and your own family, but the DCC and the various homeless services, organisations and charities don't have the luxury of your self-centred attitude.

fussyonion · 09-04-2014 05:58PM

OP, I do understand your frustration with your Landlord increasing your rent.

I also know from experience how hard it can be to find properties that accept Rent Allowance.

I also know what it's like to be on the Housing List, waiting years, while you scrimp and save because the rent on your property is crippling you.
But you must realise that you aren't about to be made homeless.

The Council have offered to put you and your family up in a hostel at a cost to the Council.
As much as this might not be ideal for you, it is better than sleeping rough.
Housing Lists are a waiting game.

You won't be bumped up the List just because you shout louder or because you've got more kids. That wouldn't be fair on people waiting a hell of a lot longer than you.

My partner and I were on the List for 10 years.
We never complained; we got on with our lives and in time, the Council contacted us with an offer.
You just have to do what everyone else does..WAIT.

Meanwhile, you need to search Daft/Gumtree/The Evening Herald/your local supermarket noticeboards--anywhere--for ads about properties accepting Rent Allowance.
Place ads yourself.

You need to get over the fact you have to wait for a Council home; you're going to be waiting a long time.

The boarded-up houses you mentioned will probably be let out again..but not to you..they'll be let out to the people next in line for a house.

iPink · 10-04-2014 10:09AM

gazzer wrote: »

OP. So that people can help you why dont you state:

How much rent allowance you currently get
Do you add any money to this to make up the shortfall on rent
How much money do you get from Social Welfare (jobseekers allowance, child benefit etc)
What area in Dublin do you live in and what areas are you looking for a house in?

Then we could do a search on the likes of daft.ie to find houses in the price range.

You have 5 kids so at most you need a 3 bedroomed house.

You are never allowed to add to your ra allowance though some people do it on the sly... personally I think all that does is add to the general problem of rents being too high. ..

Czarcasm · 10-04-2014 03:10PM

iPink wrote: »

You are never allowed to add to your ra allowance though some people do it on the sly... personally I think all that does is add to the general problem of rents being too high. ..

From the Department of Social Protection website -

Your contribution to rent (Household Contribution)

Once the amount of Rent Supplement you qualify for has been worked out, it will be reduced by a minimum of €30. This is because you must pay at least €30 a week towards your rent. You may pay more than €30 because you are also required to contribute any additional assessable means that you have above the appropriate basic Supplementary Welfare Allowance rate towards your rent. If you are one of a couple and are claiming Rent Supplement you must pay at least €40 a week towards your rent.

Any non-dependent household members who are solely dependent on a personal social welfare payment must also contribute €30. However, if benefit and privilege has been assessed against your social welfare payment you do not have to contribute €30. If the non-dependent household members are a couple their contribution is €40.

A couple over 65 with an income equal to or less than the State Pension (Contributory) for their situation will contribute €40 a week towards their rent. A couple who both have State Pensions (Contributory) and no other income will also contribute €40 towards their weekly rent.

So not only are you allowed to contribute to your rent, but you're expected to contribute to your rent. The DSP have guidelines laid down as to how much Rent Supplement a person receives, depending on a number of criteria, but you'll never be given the full rent, nothing sneaky about it tbh, it's there in black and white.

Obliq · 10-04-2014 03:43PM

Czarcasm wrote: »

The DSP have guidelines laid down as to how much Rent Supplement a person receives, depending on a number of criteria, but you'll never be given the full rent, nothing sneaky about it tbh, it's there in black and white.

What can and does happen (I wouldn't know how commonly) is that a prospective tenant can come to an arrangement with the landlord to screw the system and put the rent up on paper only, so the tenant can then pay nothing in a verbal agreement. That would push up rents if houses are officially classed by RA as being worth more than they should be. If a landlord is only asking 500 in an area where the RA would go to 600, it's not a huge stretch of the imagination to figure that there's a good few chancers doing this.

ABajaninCork · 10-04-2014 07:13PM

Czarcasm wrote: »

From the Department of Social Protection website -

So not only are you allowed to contribute to your rent, but you're expected to contribute to your rent. The DSP have guidelines laid down as to how much Rent Supplement a person receives, depending on a number of criteria, but you'll never be given the full rent, nothing sneaky about it tbh, it's there in black and white.

I think you misunderstood. The minimum contribution you make is E40, (I think). What some people are doing is getting the RA at or just under the limit. Then they pay the landlord the remainder of the rent in cash...

For example: The rent is 1,000. The RA will cover only 700 with 160 coming from the tenant. The remaining 140 would then be handed over to the LL to cover the rent.

zef · 10-04-2014 07:37PM

ABajaninCork wrote: »

I think you misunderstood. The minimum contribution you make is E40, (I think). What some people are doing is getting the RA at or just under the limit. Then they pay the landlord the remainder of the rent in cash...

For example: The rent is 1,000. The RA will cover only 700 with 160 coming from the tenant. The remaining 140 would then be handed over to the LL to cover the rent.

Or- the house is rented to a RA recipient for 900e , they pay approx 35e p.w- 140e p.m from their own pocket (per adult tenant) They would get approx 740e in RA. (a couple would get less)
If the LL ups the rent to 1,10k p.m or whatever, in reality people may 'top up' the extra 200e p.m, but generally this is unsustainable for a family on SW.
I think it's done through fear of homelessness tbh, the hassle of waiting for deposits, often being left stuck then for the deposit on a new place if one is lucky enough to find one.

going to be homeless can anyone help

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