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Jesus saving the best wine until last

  • 26-04-2014 06:11PM
    #1
    blue note
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭


    Does anyone else think that purposely doing that was just a bit stupid?

    Most of us have probably been in the situation where we were saving some special wine or whiskey for an occasion special enough to merit drinking it. And then we've come back to the house some evening and either ran out of booze and cracked it open, or just said feck it, what's the point in saving it, we'll drink it now.

    And the next morning we tell someone and they ask "well what did it taste like?" And we tell them "it was lovely. I think it was lovely"

    And if it wasn't all that special, then what sort of plonk was he serving to begin with? And what about those who only wanted a couple of glasses of wine because they had an early start they next day? They get the cheap stuff and jesus is left with a few extra bottles of the good stuff at the end of the night.

    I just don't get why this is an example of how great he is.


Comments

  • #2
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,554 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Have you been having some of the good stuff yourself OP? :P


  • #3
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,695 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Jesus.


  • #4
    Jesus Wept
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Dead right op, it was an amateur move.


  • #5
    martinn123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,300 ✭✭✭martinn123


    Well as he was changing Water into Wine, he had a couple of practise runs, first, before he got it right/ perfect.

    Then the guy who wrote up the story for the local paper, having had a few too many, got his facts a bit mixed up.

    Any other explinations, on Biblical matters you need tonight.


  • #6
    Stavros Murphy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    This would be an ecumenical matter.


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  • #7
    professore
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,857 ✭✭✭professore


    He was making it from water, ffs. Definte proof he was Irish.


  • #8
    Frank Lee Midere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,780 ✭✭✭Frank Lee Midere


    The point of the story was exactly that. People were wondering why the best wine was kept for last. Because they ran out. And he did the water trick. He couldn't make crap wine.


  • #9
    pablo128
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭pablo128


    Ah now come on, there's no need to crucify the guy. Oh wait............


  • #10
    Stavros Murphy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    Frank Lee Midere wrote: »
    The point of the story was exactly that. People were wondering why the best wine was kept for last. Because they ran out. And he did the water trick. He couldn't make crap wine.

    Which is well within the capability of the Californians. They're great at it.


  • #11
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    The cheaper stuff was liable for the wine tax back in those times.

    Last thing he wanted was to be hammered with tax.


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  • #12
    Davarus Walrus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭Davarus Walrus


    It may have been an 'Old World' wine. Perhaps a vintage Italian. While Israeli wine is good, he may have wanted to close the party with something special.


  • #13
    WilyCoyote
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭WilyCoyote


    Stavros Murphy wrote: »
    Which is well within the capability of the Californians. They're great at it.
    Stavros, are you sure. According to the three most famous blind tastings, the likes of Gallo, Mondavi et al were up there with the French and in some cases were (blind) voted better.
    I get 5ltrs of very drinkable Burgundy/Merlot/Chianti etc for $15.99
    Toss away the bottle of Blue Nun/Liebfraumilch and have a read:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judgment_of_Paris_(wine)


  • #14
    Stavros Murphy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    WilyCoyote wrote: »
    Stavros, are you sure. According to the three most famous blind tastings, the likes of Gallo, Mondavi et al were up there with the French and in some cases were (blind) voted better.
    I get 5ltrs of very drinkable Burgundy/Merlot/Chianti etc for $15.99
    Toss away the bottle of Blue Nun/Liebfraumilch and have a read:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judgment_of_Paris_(wine)

    Everyone knows blind people know sfa about wine.


  • #15
    WilyCoyote
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭WilyCoyote


    Stavros Murphy wrote: »
    Everyone knows blind people know sfa about wine.

    I take it you've already uncorked one :D


  • #16
    Stavros Murphy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    WilyCoyote wrote: »
    I take it you've already uncorked one :D

    Did that yesterday evening. It seemed a great idea then. Today, not so much.


  • #17
    Paco Rodriguez
    Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Paco Rodriguez


    Is AH the new battleground for atheists and christians now? Seems to be a surge in both these topics lately. Isn't there not special forums for this?


  • #18
    Birroc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,070 ✭✭✭Birroc


    professore wrote: »
    He was making it from water, ffs. Definte proof he was Irish.

    No, if he had a few potatoes, he would have made poitín


  • #19
    Roger_007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    It is not recorded what the local vineyard owners and wine merchants thought about the episode. Here was a guy who could put them all out of business overnight. I bet they were sh1tting themselves in case Jesus set up a business selling wine that he could make instantly from water. Lucky for them that he concentrated on curing all illnesses known to man, not to mention occasionally raising people from the dead. Then it was the doctors and undertakers who were getting worried.
    No wonder he made enemies.


  • #20
    WilyCoyote
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭WilyCoyote


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    It is not recorded what the local vineyard owners and wine merchants thought about the episode. Here was a guy who could put them all out of business overnight. I bet they were sh1tting themselves in case Jesus set up a business selling wine that he could make instantly from water. Lucky for them that he concentrated on curing all illnesses known to man, not to mention occasionally raising people from the dead. Then it was the doctors and undertakers who were getting worried.
    No wonder he made enemies.

    Not looking for kudos here but I can turn wine into urine on a nightly basis. Every night! No effing Wedding Feast in reverse :D


  • #21
    ryan101
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭ryan101


    blue note wrote: »
    Does anyone else think that purposely doing that was just a bit stupid?

    Most of us have probably been in the situation where we were saving some special wine or whiskey for an occasion special enough to merit drinking it. And then we've come back to the house some evening and either ran out of booze and cracked it open, or just said feck it, what's the point in saving it, we'll drink it now.

    And the next morning we tell someone and they ask "well what did it taste like?" And we tell them "it was lovely. I think it was lovely"

    And if it wasn't all that special, then what sort of plonk was he serving to begin with? And what about those who only wanted a couple of glasses of wine because they had an early start they next day? They get the cheap stuff and jesus is left with a few extra bottles of the good stuff at the end of the night.

    I just don't get why this is an example of how great he is.

    A misconception, he didn't save any wine, the wedding party drunk all the wine, ran out and his mother came to him asking him to do something.

    He reluctantly agreed, but he always listens to his Mother.

    The steward then got his wires crossed, tasted this new wine, and was confused as to why the best wine was saved to last.

    Jesus doesn't do bad wine.


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  • #22
    RayCon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,929 ✭✭✭RayCon


    After the first bottle - who fcukin cares


  • #23
    ryan101
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭ryan101


    RayCon wrote: »
    After the first bottle - who fcukin cares

    You do when you run out !


  • #24
    melissak
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,873 ✭✭✭melissak


    martinn123 wrote: »
    Well as he was changing Water into Wine, he had a couple of practise runs, first, before he got it right/ perfect.

    Then the guy who wrote up the story for the local paper, having had a few too many, got his facts a bit mixed up.

    Any other explinations, on Biblical matters you need tonight.

    Maybe he was still fermenting the wine and the stuff left till the end of the party was further on and thus stronger


  • #25
    D1stant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭D1stant


    professore wrote: »
    He was making it from water, ffs. Definte proof he was Irish.

    In the second coming, due to water charges the miracle will be turning wine into water


  • #26
    melissak
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,873 ✭✭✭melissak


    martinn123 wrote: »
    Well as he was changing Water into Wine, he had a couple of practise runs, first, before he got it right/ perfect.

    Then the guy who wrote up the story for the local paper, having had a few too many, got his facts a bit mixed up.

    Any other explinations, on Biblical matters you need tonight.

    Maybe he was still fermenting the wine and the stuff left till the end of the party was further on and thus stronger


  • #27
    melissak
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,873 ✭✭✭melissak


    martinn123 wrote: »
    Well as he was changing Water into Wine, he had a couple of practise runs, first, before he got it right/ perfect.

    Then the guy who wrote up the story for the local paper, having had a few too many, got his facts a bit mixed up.

    Any other explinations, on Biblical matters you need tonight.

    Maybe he was still fermenting the wine and the stuff left till the end of the party was further on and thus stronger


  • #28
    yeahimhere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭yeahimhere


    These are the type of conversations I love having in the pub. Nonsense debated seriously.


  • #29
    Montgolfier
    Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭Montgolfier


    Well if the life of Brian is anything to go by, who the fck was going to argue with the messiah!
    Or the wine was so bad those days that you would have a massive hangover for days. So when everyone was locked he passed off the water as wine "anyone for a glass of white?". Seen it done with vodka.
    The next day nobody had a hangover and thought fck that was bloody good wine.


  • #30
    Giblet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,998 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    Wine is deadly


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  • #31
    faceman
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,662 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    He didn't save it to last. The wedding party ran out of wine so his Mammy asked him to help out. Not sure what she expected him to do because I doubt she knew he could do that magic. Maybe she just wanted him to go to Spar?

    Nowadays if that happened he'd be arrested for illegally brewing and the wedding party charged with supplying their guests with contraband wine.

    That's why JC rocked. He didn't care. He just liked a good aul session. Although he probably felt a bit awkward being there with his Ma.


  • #32
    Ray Palmer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,898 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    Way to get the fact the wine was better wrong. He wasn't their caterer

    Although I always thought the story was a bit strange. The guy who can bring people back from the dead uses his powers to save some couple from embarrassment!


  • #33
    topper75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    Paco Rodriguez wrote: »
    Is AH the new battleground for atheists and christians now? Seems to be a surge in both these topics lately. Isn't there not special forums for this?

    AH is constantly invaded from Economics, Dublin, Religion, and Sport but to name a few.

    Still - wouldn't have much going on here if all threads were sent where they belong. AH is the Singapore of boards.


  • #34
    Maphisto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭Maphisto


    I'm not the best of Christians - that was among several of the parables that went over me head.

    I remember about 30 years ago about 5 or 6 lads went out for a beer. We got back to one lad's house looking for something to drink, the only thing we could find was Banana Liqueur - I swear I can still taste it.


  • #35
    amorphous
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 ✭amorphous


    Jesus; master of water sports


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