Ireland in top 10 of world education systems

Jonny7 · 08-05-2014 03:38PM #1

TOP 20 EDUCATION SYSTEMS

1. South Korea
2. Japan
3. Singapore
4. Hong Kong
5. Finland
6. UK
7. Canada
8. Netherlands
9. Ireland
10. Poland
11. Denmark
12. Germany
13. Russia
14. United States
15. Australia
16. New Zealand
17. Israel
18. Belgium
19. Czech Republic
20. Switzerland

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-27314075

we done good

08-05-2014 04:07PM

The fact that UK schools were outside the Top 20 for schools but their college graduation rate took them to 6th overall suggests that a lot is being placed on how good a country's diploma mills are.

strobe · 08-05-2014 04:11PM

That's impossible. Everybody knows Ireland is a chronic toxic third world backwater that's the worst at everything, everything and we should all be deeply deeply ashamed of ourselves and we may as well just torch the place and also we smell and have ugly elbows.

Paddy Cow · 08-05-2014 04:15PM

strobe wrote: »

That's impossible. Everybody knows Ireland is a chronic toxic third world backwater that's the worst at everything, everything and we should all be deeply deeply ashamed of ourselves and we may as well just torch the place and also we smell and have ugly elbows.

Maybe but we can all count to potato, so we have that going for us, which is nice

SCOOP 64 · 08-05-2014 04:15PM

Yes, all educated and ready to go and live and work in the above 19 country's.

Duckworth_Luas · 08-05-2014 04:18PM

Ha, ha! Take that Scandanavyin thickos!

Stheno · 08-05-2014 04:20PM

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

Ha, ha! Take that Scandanavyin thickos!

Oh the irony!

Manach · 08-05-2014 04:26PM

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

Ha, ha! Take that Scandanavyin thickos!

Men ar de inte vacker och folklig, och vi kan talar inte andra spraken

Paddy Cow · 08-05-2014 04:27PM

Manach wrote: »

Men ar de inte vacker och folklig, och vi kan talar inte andra spraken

Did the cat walk across your keyboard?

Donkey Oaty · 08-05-2014 04:28PM

9. Ireland
10. Poland
11. Denmark
12. Germany

For you, Fritz, ze vore on education standards is over.

suicide_circus · 08-05-2014 04:37PM

Having been through the irish education system, I am honestly shocked that it ranked so high. Education elsewhere must be atrocious.

Edit: USA ranked above Switzerland.....something not right with this report.

topper75 · 08-05-2014 04:48PM

Paddy Cow wrote: »

Did the cat walk across your keyboard?

He is praating the ould Svenska for himself. As is his wont. Did you not go to school in Ireland or something?

Son Of A Vidic · 08-05-2014 04:55PM

strobe wrote: »

That's impossible. Everybody knows Ireland is a chronic toxic third world backwater that's the worst at everything, everything and we should all be deeply deeply ashamed of ourselves and we may as well just torch the place and also we smell and have ugly elbows.

Now that's unfair, because we're certainly top of the table when it comes to spin, revisionism and bullshítology

Mr. CooL ICE · 08-05-2014 04:57PM

We finished just behind a country full of perverts and stoners. Should be proud of that

4zn76tysfajdxp · 08-05-2014 05:04PM

strobe wrote: »

That's impossible. Everybody knows Ireland is a chronic toxic third world backwater that's the worst at everything, everything and we should all be deeply deeply ashamed of ourselves and we may as well just torch the place and also we smell and have ugly elbows.

You can only imagine how high up we'd be if only we didn't waste so much time on utter rubbish like religion and Irish, useful only for repelling the multinationals with.

Hotale.com · 08-05-2014 05:09PM

Erin Big Harpsichord wrote: »

You can only imagine how high up we'd be if only we didn't waste so much time on utter rubbish like religion and Irish, useful only for repelling the multinationals with.

Irish is not utter rubbish, the way it's taught is utter rubbish.

Sick of people having no respect for our culture.

Paddy Cow · 08-05-2014 05:31PM

topper75 wrote: »

He is praating the ould Svenska for himself. As is his wont. Did you not go to school in Ireland or something?

I went to school in Ireland, which is why I speak in sarcasm :pac:

OneArt · 08-05-2014 06:03PM

Paddy Cow wrote: »

Did the cat walk across your keyboard?

Solche Sprachen klingen immer wie Schreibmaschinen, wahrend sie die Treppen hinunter fallen.

Donkey Oaty · 08-05-2014 06:15PM

Hotale.com wrote: »

Irish is not utter rubbish, the way it's taught is utter rubbish.

Sick of people having no respect for our culture.

Erin Big Harpsichord is AH culture.

Show some respect.

Da Shins Kelly · 08-05-2014 06:16PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

Having been through the irish education system, I am honestly shocked that it ranked so high. Education elsewhere must be atrocious.

Edit: USA ranked above Switzerland.....something not right with this report.

Having been through the Irish education system and studied abroad, I am not shocked at all. We're streets ahead of plenty of European countries.

Blue giant · 08-05-2014 06:16PM

Jonny7 wrote: »

TOP 20 EDUCATION SYSTEMS

1. South Korea
2. Japan
3. Singapore
4. Hong Kong
5. Finland
6. UK
7. Canada
8. Netherlands
9. Ireland
10. Poland
11. Denmark
12. Germany
13. Russia
14. United States
15. Australia
16. New Zealand
17. Israel
18. Belgium
19. Czech Republic
20. Switzerland

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-27314075

we done good

Obviously not quite good enough though.

magicmonkeys · 08-05-2014 06:16PM

SCOOP 64 wrote: »

Yes, all educated and ready to go and live and work in the above 19 country's.

The irony.

* Countries

SureYWouldntYa · 08-05-2014 06:19PM

We must be doing something right with the universities, they seem to attract a serious amount of international students

Arthur Beesley · 08-05-2014 06:20PM

Donkey Oaty wrote: »

For you, Fritz, ze vore on education standards is over.

Bloody Germans. A leopard never changes it's spots.

Chinasea · 08-05-2014 06:24PM

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

Having been through the Irish education system and studied abroad, I am not shocked at all. We're streets ahead of plenty of European countries.

besides this dubious list, where??? which European countries.

This is looking a little like the crime stats.

vamos! · 08-05-2014 06:30PM

Quite a few of my students go on exchange in France or Germany. Every single one comes back shocked at how little work was done in the schools. The Spanish teacher has said the same is true for Spain. I'm sure there are plenty of positive features of education abroad and there are serious flaws in our secondary system but there are also excellent aspects, which the media and R Quinn discredit at every possible opportunity. Will Ireland be anywhere near top of the list after the new Junior Cert is released and the population is dumbed down? I doubt it.

Duckworth_Luas · 08-05-2014 06:32PM

Stheno wrote: »

Oh the irony!

Det er spøk

byhookorbycrook · 08-05-2014 07:01PM

Funny how little publicity this is getting.

Amirani · 08-05-2014 07:04PM

byhookorbycrook wrote: »

Funny how little publicity this is getting.

I'm not surprised. Most people don't like positive news, they'd rather have a moan.

4zn76tysfajdxp · 08-05-2014 08:43PM

Hotale.com wrote: »

Irish is not utter rubbish, the way it's taught is utter rubbish.

Sick of people having no respect for our culture.

Trust me, it was sarcastic.

suicide_circus · 08-05-2014 09:02PM

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

Having been through the Irish education system and studied abroad, I am not shocked at all. We're streets ahead of plenty of European countries.

Wow ok I believe you

CrazyRabbit · 08-05-2014 09:12PM

They way almost all schools teach is fundamentally flawed. So being good in a generally bad system is nothing to be proud of.

Have a look:
http://www.ted.com/talks/ken_robinson_says_schools_kill_creativity
http://www.ted.com/talks/ken_robinson_changing_education_paradigms
http://www.ted.com/talks/ken_robinson_how_to_escape_education_s_death_valley#t-772

fuzzydunlop85 · 08-05-2014 09:40PM

Having worked in Korea for four years in their public schools I'm fairly sceptical about the credentials of this list.

Sheldons Brain · 08-05-2014 09:54PM

Surely education is mostly provided by those nasty public sector people and so bad by definition?

cassid · 08-05-2014 10:18PM

Paddy Cow wrote: »

Did the cat walk across your keyboard?

Had a mad day, but God that made me laugh out loud- thank you:)

Sh1tbag OToole · 09-05-2014 12:03AM

Ich bin eine Komodo

ryan101 · 09-05-2014 12:05AM

Jonny7 wrote: »

TOP 20 EDUCATION SYSTEMS

1. South Korea
2. Japan
3. Singapore
4. Hong Kong
5. Finland
6. UK
7. Canada
8. Netherlands
9. Ireland
10. Poland
11. Denmark
12. Germany
13. Russia
14. United States
15. Australia
16. New Zealand
17. Israel
18. Belgium
19. Czech Republic
20. Switzerland

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-27314075

we done good

I don't know who managed to bluff them, but well done.

Seaneh · 09-05-2014 12:12AM

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

Having been through the Irish education system and studied abroad, I am not shocked at all. We're streets ahead of plenty of European countries.

I'd agree with this.

One of my best friends is an English teacher in an private prep-school in southern England, only the "best" students from the area are accepted (so long as daddy can foot the bill) something like 90% of their A-Level students end up in top tier colleges in England.

Before she moved to England she taught junior cert level English in a public school in Ireland

It is of her opinion that her students in Ireland were smarter and more proficient students of English than her A-Level students in the UK.

c_man · 09-05-2014 12:13AM

Diego Simeone wrote: »

I'm not surprised. Most people don't like positive news, they'd rather have a moan.

Damn right, OOOWWWW!!!!

Da Shins Kelly · 09-05-2014 04:20PM

vamos! wrote: »

Quite a few of my students go on exchange in France or Germany. Every single one comes back shocked at how little work was done in the schools. The Spanish teacher has said the same is true for Spain. I'm sure there are plenty of positive features of education abroad and there are serious flaws in our secondary system but there are also excellent aspects, which the media and R Quinn discredit at every possible opportunity. Will Ireland be anywhere near top of the list after the new Junior Cert is released and the population is dumbed down? I doubt it.

The Spanish system is brutal. They're about a generation behind when it comes to technology and I heard some absolutely shocking stuff from lecturers in university over there. Heard the same from Italy and France too. The only countries I've heard to be quite good in Europe are the Scandinavian countries and the UK.

Hotale.com · 09-05-2014 04:24PM

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

The Spanish system is brutal. They're about a generation behind when it comes to technology and I heard some absolutely shocking stuff from lecturers in university over there. Heard the same from Italy and France too. The only countries I've heard to be quite good in Europe are the Scandinavian countries and the UK.

UK? Sounds like a joke from what I've heard, I've cousins there whose maths levels are at about the same level as Junior Cert pass (I know maths isn't for everyone but it is important). It's also ridiculously narrow past primary school. They do like 3 subjects for the GCSE don't they?

Paddy Cow · 09-05-2014 04:27PM

Hotale.com wrote: »

UK? Sounds like a joke from what I've heard, I've cousins there whose maths levels are at about the same level as Junior Cert pass (I know maths isn't for everyone but it is important). It's also ridiculously narrow past primary school. They do like 3 subjects for the GCSE don't they?

They do up to ten for GCSE and around 3 for A-level. They also leave secondary school after GCSE and go to college for A-level. Lots of them don't do the college part. It's very rare in Ireland to find someone who hasn't done the Leaving Cert. I only know one person.

Here we interchange college and university, which caused me confusion when I first moved to London. Anytime someone said college, I thought they meant university but they were referring to what is basically still secondary school.

Fratton Fred · 09-05-2014 04:28PM

Paddy Cow wrote: »

They do up to ten for GCSE and around 3 for A-level. They also leave secondary school after GCSE and go to college for A-level. Lots of them don't do the college part. It's very rare in Ireland to find someone who hasn't done the Leaving Cert. I only know one person.

That's changing I believe.

Paddy Cow · 09-05-2014 04:29PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

That's changing I believe.

Changing that A-level will be done in the same school as GCSE's? I think it would be a good idea and more would probably do A-levels.

Fratton Fred · 09-05-2014 04:32PM

Paddy Cow wrote: »

Changing that A-level will be done in the same school as GCSE's? I think it would be a good idea and more would probably do A-levels.

No, the school leaving age. A lot of schools already do sixth form, which is A levels. The norm is to take four (or it was in my day).

College is usually for specialist subjects.

Ireland in top 10 of world education systems

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