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Ireland in top 10 of world education systems

  • 08-05-2014 03:38PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭


    TOP 20 EDUCATION SYSTEMS

    1. South Korea
    2. Japan
    3. Singapore
    4. Hong Kong
    5. Finland
    6. UK
    7. Canada
    8. Netherlands
    9. Ireland
    10. Poland
    11. Denmark
    12. Germany
    13. Russia
    14. United States
    15. Australia
    16. New Zealand
    17. Israel
    18. Belgium
    19. Czech Republic
    20. Switzerland

    http://www.bbc.com/news/business-27314075

    we done good


Comments

  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The fact that UK schools were outside the Top 20 for schools but their college graduation rate took them to 6th overall suggests that a lot is being placed on how good a country's diploma mills are.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    That's impossible. Everybody knows Ireland is a chronic toxic third world backwater that's the worst at everything, everything and we should all be deeply deeply ashamed of ourselves and we may as well just torch the place and also we smell and have ugly elbows.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭Paddy Cow


    strobe wrote: »
    That's impossible. Everybody knows Ireland is a chronic toxic third world backwater that's the worst at everything, everything and we should all be deeply deeply ashamed of ourselves and we may as well just torch the place and also we smell and have ugly elbows.
    Maybe but we can all count to potato, so we have that going for us, which is nice :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭SCOOP 64


    Yes, all educated and ready to go and live and work in the above 19 country's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    Ha, ha! Take that Scandanavyin thickos!


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Ha, ha! Take that Scandanavyin thickos!

    Oh the irony!


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,796 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    Ha, ha! Take that Scandanavyin thickos!
    Men ar de inte vacker och folklig, och vi kan talar inte andra spraken


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭Paddy Cow


    Manach wrote: »
    Men ar de inte vacker och folklig, och vi kan talar inte andra spraken
    Did the cat walk across your keyboard?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    9. Ireland
    10. Poland
    11. Denmark
    12. Germany

    For you, Fritz, ze vore on education standards is over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Having been through the irish education system, I am honestly shocked that it ranked so high. Education elsewhere must be atrocious.

    Edit: USA ranked above Switzerland.....something not right with this report.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    Paddy Cow wrote: »
    Did the cat walk across your keyboard?

    He is praating the ould Svenska for himself. As is his wont. Did you not go to school in Ireland or something?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    strobe wrote: »
    That's impossible. Everybody knows Ireland is a chronic toxic third world backwater that's the worst at everything, everything and we should all be deeply deeply ashamed of ourselves and we may as well just torch the place and also we smell and have ugly elbows.

    Now that's unfair, because we're certainly top of the table when it comes to spin, revisionism and bullshítology


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,787 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    We finished just behind a country full of perverts and stoners. Should be proud of that


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    strobe wrote: »
    That's impossible. Everybody knows Ireland is a chronic toxic third world backwater that's the worst at everything, everything and we should all be deeply deeply ashamed of ourselves and we may as well just torch the place and also we smell and have ugly elbows.

    You can only imagine how high up we'd be if only we didn't waste so much time on utter rubbish like religion and Irish, useful only for repelling the multinationals with.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,374 ✭✭✭Hotale.com


    You can only imagine how high up we'd be if only we didn't waste so much time on utter rubbish like religion and Irish, useful only for repelling the multinationals with.

    Irish is not utter rubbish, the way it's taught is utter rubbish.

    Sick of people having no respect for our culture.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭Paddy Cow


    topper75 wrote: »
    He is praating the ould Svenska for himself. As is his wont. Did you not go to school in Ireland or something?
    I went to school in Ireland, which is why I speak in sarcasm :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭OneArt


    Paddy Cow wrote: »
    Did the cat walk across your keyboard?

    Solche Sprachen klingen immer wie Schreibmaschinen, wahrend sie die Treppen hinunter fallen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    Hotale.com wrote: »
    Irish is not utter rubbish, the way it's taught is utter rubbish.

    Sick of people having no respect for our culture.

    Erin Big Harpsichord is AH culture.

    Show some respect.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,048 ✭✭✭Da Shins Kelly


    Having been through the irish education system, I am honestly shocked that it ranked so high. Education elsewhere must be atrocious.

    Edit: USA ranked above Switzerland.....something not right with this report.

    Having been through the Irish education system and studied abroad, I am not shocked at all. We're streets ahead of plenty of European countries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,336 ✭✭✭Blue giant


    Jonny7 wrote: »
    TOP 20 EDUCATION SYSTEMS

    1. South Korea
    2. Japan
    3. Singapore
    4. Hong Kong
    5. Finland
    6. UK
    7. Canada
    8. Netherlands
    9. Ireland
    10. Poland
    11. Denmark
    12. Germany
    13. Russia
    14. United States
    15. Australia
    16. New Zealand
    17. Israel
    18. Belgium
    19. Czech Republic
    20. Switzerland

    http://www.bbc.com/news/business-27314075

    we done good


    Obviously not quite good enough though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59 ✭✭magicmonkeys


    SCOOP 64 wrote: »
    Yes, all educated and ready to go and live and work in the above 19 country's.

    The irony.

    * Countries


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,825 ✭✭✭SureYWouldntYa


    We must be doing something right with the universities, they seem to attract a serious amount of international students


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Arthur Beesley


    For you, Fritz, ze vore on education standards is over.

    Bloody Germans. A leopard never changes it's spots.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,568 ✭✭✭Chinasea


    Having been through the Irish education system and studied abroad, I am not shocked at all. We're streets ahead of plenty of European countries.

    besides this dubious list, where??? which European countries.

    This is looking a little like the crime stats.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 525 ✭✭✭vamos!


    Quite a few of my students go on exchange in France or Germany. Every single one comes back shocked at how little work was done in the schools. The Spanish teacher has said the same is true for Spain. I'm sure there are plenty of positive features of education abroad and there are serious flaws in our secondary system but there are also excellent aspects, which the media and R Quinn discredit at every possible opportunity. Will Ireland be anywhere near top of the list after the new Junior Cert is released and the population is dumbed down? I doubt it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    Stheno wrote: »
    Oh the irony!
    Det er spøk


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 12,534 Mod ✭✭✭✭byhookorbycrook


    Funny how little publicity this is getting.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,554 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Funny how little publicity this is getting.

    I'm not surprised. Most people don't like positive news, they'd rather have a moan.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    Hotale.com wrote: »
    Irish is not utter rubbish, the way it's taught is utter rubbish.

    Sick of people having no respect for our culture.

    Trust me, it was sarcastic.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Having been through the Irish education system and studied abroad, I am not shocked at all. We're streets ahead of plenty of European countries.
    Wow ok I believe you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭fuzzydunlop85


    Having worked in Korea for four years in their public schools I'm fairly sceptical about the credentials of this list.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭Sheldons Brain


    Surely education is mostly provided by those nasty public sector people and so bad by definition?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 811 ✭✭✭cassid


    Paddy Cow wrote: »
    Did the cat walk across your keyboard?

    Had a mad day, but God that made me laugh out loud- thank you:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,973 ✭✭✭Sh1tbag OToole


    Ich bin eine Komodo


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭ryan101


    Jonny7 wrote: »
    TOP 20 EDUCATION SYSTEMS

    1. South Korea
    2. Japan
    3. Singapore
    4. Hong Kong
    5. Finland
    6. UK
    7. Canada
    8. Netherlands
    9. Ireland
    10. Poland
    11. Denmark
    12. Germany
    13. Russia
    14. United States
    15. Australia
    16. New Zealand
    17. Israel
    18. Belgium
    19. Czech Republic
    20. Switzerland

    http://www.bbc.com/news/business-27314075

    we done good

    I don't know who managed to bluff them, but well done.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    Having been through the Irish education system and studied abroad, I am not shocked at all. We're streets ahead of plenty of European countries.

    I'd agree with this.

    One of my best friends is an English teacher in an private prep-school in southern England, only the "best" students from the area are accepted (so long as daddy can foot the bill) something like 90% of their A-Level students end up in top tier colleges in England.

    Before she moved to England she taught junior cert level English in a public school in Ireland

    It is of her opinion that her students in Ireland were smarter and more proficient students of English than her A-Level students in the UK.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    I'm not surprised. Most people don't like positive news, they'd rather have a moan.

    Damn right, OOOWWWW!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,048 ✭✭✭Da Shins Kelly


    vamos! wrote: »
    Quite a few of my students go on exchange in France or Germany. Every single one comes back shocked at how little work was done in the schools. The Spanish teacher has said the same is true for Spain. I'm sure there are plenty of positive features of education abroad and there are serious flaws in our secondary system but there are also excellent aspects, which the media and R Quinn discredit at every possible opportunity. Will Ireland be anywhere near top of the list after the new Junior Cert is released and the population is dumbed down? I doubt it.

    The Spanish system is brutal. They're about a generation behind when it comes to technology and I heard some absolutely shocking stuff from lecturers in university over there. Heard the same from Italy and France too. The only countries I've heard to be quite good in Europe are the Scandinavian countries and the UK.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,374 ✭✭✭Hotale.com


    The Spanish system is brutal. They're about a generation behind when it comes to technology and I heard some absolutely shocking stuff from lecturers in university over there. Heard the same from Italy and France too. The only countries I've heard to be quite good in Europe are the Scandinavian countries and the UK.

    UK? Sounds like a joke from what I've heard, I've cousins there whose maths levels are at about the same level as Junior Cert pass (I know maths isn't for everyone but it is important). It's also ridiculously narrow past primary school. They do like 3 subjects for the GCSE don't they?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭Paddy Cow


    Hotale.com wrote: »
    UK? Sounds like a joke from what I've heard, I've cousins there whose maths levels are at about the same level as Junior Cert pass (I know maths isn't for everyone but it is important). It's also ridiculously narrow past primary school. They do like 3 subjects for the GCSE don't they?
    They do up to ten for GCSE and around 3 for A-level. They also leave secondary school after GCSE and go to college for A-level. Lots of them don't do the college part. It's very rare in Ireland to find someone who hasn't done the Leaving Cert. I only know one person.

    Here we interchange college and university, which caused me confusion when I first moved to London. Anytime someone said college, I thought they meant university but they were referring to what is basically still secondary school.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Paddy Cow wrote: »
    They do up to ten for GCSE and around 3 for A-level. They also leave secondary school after GCSE and go to college for A-level. Lots of them don't do the college part. It's very rare in Ireland to find someone who hasn't done the Leaving Cert. I only know one person.

    That's changing I believe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭Paddy Cow


    That's changing I believe.
    Changing that A-level will be done in the same school as GCSE's? I think it would be a good idea and more would probably do A-levels.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Paddy Cow wrote: »
    Changing that A-level will be done in the same school as GCSE's? I think it would be a good idea and more would probably do A-levels.

    No, the school leaving age. A lot of schools already do sixth form, which is A levels. The norm is to take four (or it was in my day).

    College is usually for specialist subjects.


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