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Why did UCG become NUIG?

  • 30-04-2014 8:41pm
    #1
    Mr Pseudonym
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    NUIG change it's name from UCG when the National University of Ireland was reformed in 1997; why?! :)


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  • #2
    on the river
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    Mr Pseudonym wrote: »
    NUIG change it's name from UCG when the National University of Ireland was reformed in 1997; why?! :)

    BECAUSE it joined with the universities of ireland Maynooth and Cork for alliance and more funding from the government and the Eu.


  • #3
    Nailz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,688 ✭✭✭Nailz


    This link would be of some help.

    http://www.nui.ie/about/structure.asp

    There are actually a more NUI's than just Galway and Maynooth; UCD and UCC are also NUI's but decided against the re-branding of their pre-existing institutes. Other smaller colleges in Ireland, such as IPA and NCAD, are also recognised as NUI institutes and hand out NUI certified qualifications.

    The idea behind it was mainly based around the standardisation and planning of resources among the various different universities, funding was one particular incentive behind it. The NUI system was first properly implemented in 1997, which is when UCG started changing its brand AFAIK.

    The reasons behind the re-branding I am unsure of, it probably had a lot to do with the actual implementation of the NUI federal university system and its rules, but I suppose its also because colleges like Galway's and Maynooth's may not have a highly recognisable names internationally, and the 'National University of Ireland' tag was likely to change that and implement some form of prestige, potentially.


  • #4
    Mr Pseudonym
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    Thanks for responses. I was aware of there being many institutions under the NUI umbrella, and it was with reference to UCD and UCC that I asked why NUIG had changed its name - ie why did it decide to change its name when the others didn't?

    To my mind, there are a number of tiers of Irish universities: TCD and UCD; UCC; NUIM and NUIG; and UL and DCU. I wonder, had NUIG retained its previous name, would it still be considered semi-twinned with UCC (both of which were part of the Queen's University of Ireland) and therefore have an enhanced reputation.


  • #5
    IainML
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    Hi there. A wee bit of confusion there, but then it is complicated! The NUI, National University of Ireland, is actually quite an old institution and at one stage all the universities in the country, except Trinity, were Colleges of the NUI. (Trinity was/is the only College in the University of Dublin.) The NUI provides the top level (Senate) authority/administration for the group and was technically the body which awarded all the degrees. The Colleges in the different locations became more autonomous in practice with time. The 1997 Act also led to some tidying up of the system and all the institutions within the NUI are technically called NUI, Place, but UCD and UCC decided to stick with their original names because they felt that the 'brand' had cachet. Galway felt that having the label National University of Ireland would potentially help with international recognition. Bear in mind, for example, in other countries (such as the UK) 'University College' actually meant an institution that wasn't a full university. Phew...I was right, it is complicated!

    Iain


  • #6
    Mr Pseudonym
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    IainML wrote: »
    Hi there. A wee bit of confusion there, but then it is complicated! The NUI, National University of Ireland, is actually quite an old institution and at one stage all the universities in the country, except Trinity, were Colleges of the NUI. (Trinity was/is the only College in the University of Dublin.) The NUI provides the top level (Senate) authority/administration for the group and was technically the body which awarded all the degrees. The Colleges in the different locations became more autonomous in practice with time. The 1997 Act also led to some tidying up of the system and all the institutions within the NUI are technically called NUI, Place, but UCD and UCC decided to stick with their original names because they felt that the 'brand' had cachet. Galway felt that having the label National University of Ireland would potentially help with international recognition. Bear in mind, for example, in other countries (such as the UK) 'University College' actually meant an institution that wasn't a full university. Phew...I was right, it is complicated!

    Iain

    Sorry for delayed response.

    I wasn't aware of what you said about their being called, technically, NUI Dublin and NUI Cork: "Under the Universities Act, 1997, University College, Dublin was reconstituted as National University of Ireland, Dublin (Ollscoil na hÉireann, Baile Átha Cliath). In November 1998, this name was changed by Ministerial Order to University College Dublin - National University of Ireland, Dublin (Coláiste na hOllscoile, Baile Átha Cliath - Ollscoil na hÉireann, Baile Átha Cliath)." The exact same applies to Cork.

    History | National University of Ireland

    Perhaps it made sense for NUIG to seek to distinguish itself. Given that I heard UCL makes efforts to publicise that it is a university to international students, it may have been prescient.

    Thanks for your contribution.


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  • #7
    HugsiePie
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    Mr Pseudonym wrote: »
    Thanks for responses. I was aware of there being many institutions under the NUI umbrella, and it was with reference to UCD and UCC that I asked why NUIG had changed its name - ie why did it decide to change its name when the others didn't?

    To my mind, there are a number of tiers of Irish universities: TCD and UCD; UCC; NUIM and NUIG; and UL and DCU. I wonder, had NUIG retained its previous name, would it still be considered semi-twinned with UCC (both of which were part of the Queen's University of Ireland) and therefore have an enhanced reputation.

    Ummmm just to save confusion for anyone out there neither TCD or DCU are NUIs, I know it sounds like such a pedantic thing to point out but when I was applying on my CAO it was very importanty I chose an NUI college as opposed to one, there are different matriculation requirements for NUIs as opposed to other universities.


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