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No Drinking water at work

  • 18-05-2014 05:21PM
    #1
    FizzleSticks
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  • #2
    Stheno
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    Are you not allowed drink the tap water?


  • #3
    hallo dare
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭hallo dare


    When i used to work on construction sites there was no such thing. A hose lying on the ground that served other purposes was the closest we got.


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    FizzleSticks
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  • #5
    micosoft
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    Buy a bottle of water.
    Drink it.
    Bring the empty bottle home.
    Fill it from the tap.
    Bring it to work.
    Drink it.
    Repeat.


  • #6
    Stheno
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    FizzleSticks wrote: »
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    Well from the (very long) document you posted, it says:


    (d) an adequate supply of potable drinking water is provided and maintained at suitable
    points conveniently accessible to all employees,
    The employer is required to provide an adequate supply of wholesome drinking water at locations
    within the workplace that are accessible to employees. The number of locations would be dependent
    upon the size of the workplace, the number of persons employed, the nature of the work and any
    requirement for the employee to remain at the workstation for sustained periods.
    Where drinking fountains are used, they should be of such design that the nozzle is shielded to protect
    it from contamination by the mouths of users.
    (e) suitable and adequate facilities for boiling water and taking meals are provided and
    maintained for the use of employees, or that employees have reasonable access to other
    suitable and adequate facilities for the taking of meals, and

    Are you allowed to buy a bottle of bottled water if you are thirsty?


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    FizzleSticks
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  • #8
    Arthur Beesley
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    micosoft wrote: »
    Buy a bottle of water.
    Drink it.
    Bring the empty bottle home.
    Fill it from the tap.
    Bring it to work.
    Drink it.
    Repeat.

    Can you clarify which steps he should repeat? All or some?


  • #9
    Stheno
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    FizzleSticks wrote: »
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    Nothing in the HSA regulations states that it has to be free, just that it has to be provided. There was a thread on here a while back where employees had to buy bottled water as it was the only source, strangely enough that was in a canteen!


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    FizzleSticks
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    FizzleSticks
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  • #12
    Stheno
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    FizzleSticks wrote: »
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    In fairness most places do provide access to tap water/water coolers at no cost.

    But I can see your employer pointing out the bottles of water for €4 a litre if it was brought up

    Maybe ring the HSA?


  • #13
    wobblemouth
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 114 ✭✭wobblemouth


    I have the misfortune of working as a health and safety bod.

    The Employer must provide you drinking water under the General Application (Workplace) Regs. Free.

    Avoid going to the HSA - discuss it with your employer to find a way to resolve this.

    Can't see how the restaurant doesn't have a supply of drinking water?!! Shame that we have to worry about such basic welfare requirements in this day and age.


  • #14
    Fries-With-That
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Fries-With-That


    FizzleSticks wrote: »
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    You work in a restaurant, and they have no water supply that's fit for human consumption.

    A restaurant must have designated wash up areas.
    A restaurant must have designated food prep areas.
    A restaurant must have designated hand wash areas.
    A restaurant must have designated staff toilets.

    I find it difficult to believe that none of these areas has a water supply that's fit for human consumption.


    If that is truly the case I wouldn't be happy working there, and I'd be reporting the place to the HSE.

    I'm also curious as to what kind of restaurant requires absolutely no water to prepare anything on their menu.


  • #15
    BabysCoffee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭BabysCoffee


    When a customer asks for tap water what water do you give them?


  • #16
    Stheno
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    wobblemouth wrote: »
    I have the misfortune of working as a health and safety bod.

    The Employer must provide you drinking water under the General Application (Welfare) Regs. Free.

    Avoid going to the HSA - discuss it with your employer to find a way to resolve this.

    Can't see how the restaurant doesn't have a supply of drinking water?!! Shame that we have to worry about such basic welfare requirements in this day and age.

    Where in the regs does it state that it should be provided for free? I was genuinely looking for that when I read them, and couldn't see it? Just that they had to supply a source of drinking water
    Fries-With-That wrote: »


    I'm also curious as to what kind of restaurant requires absolutely no water to prepare anything on their menu.

    I was too :)

    @ OP have the restaurant said the water is undrinkable or just imposed a "do not drink this water" rule to try and "encourage you to buy bottled water?


  • #17
    Bongalongherb
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    I'd love to know the name of that restaurant.


  • #18
    SoulTrader
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    Fries-With-That wrote: »
    I'm also curious as to what kind of restaurant requires absolutely no water to prepare anything on their menu.

    Strange one alright.

    OP, does the restaurant serve salads? If so, what are they washed with?

    What about preparation of sauces etc, they often require water.


  • #19
    Stheno
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    SoulTrader wrote: »
    Strange one alright.

    OP, does the restaurant serve salads? If so, what are they washed with?

    What about preparation of sauces etc, they often require water.

    I could only think of the likes of sandwich shops?


  • #20
    Lingua Franca
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    What is the tea and coffee made with?


  • #21
    Stheno
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    Lingua Franca wrote: »
    What is the tea and coffee made with?

    DUH :D


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    FizzleSticks
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  • #23
    Stheno
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    What did they say when you brought it up?

    And how does the water for the machine get topped up?


  • #24
    Stovepipe
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    I guess the OP and the owner are waiting until someone collapses from dehydration, at which point the OP takes wobblemouths advice and makes it known to the owner. Who is probably perfectly aware of it and is daring anyone to challenge him on unwritten threat of being sacked. take the ****ing water, anyway! it's your health, OP.

    regards
    Stovepipe


  • #25
    FizzleSticks
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  • #26
    michael999999
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    FizzleSticks wrote: »
    It's genuinely questionable water. Everything comes pre-packaged. Hot water comes out of a machine. I work very hard for them and it's not a lot to ask for, as for not being happy working there no im not but finishing college, not having 2 years experience in a similar role or the ability to intern makes that difficult (but I've been applying for jobs and saving for further training). I won't be here forever but for the sake of others and future staff i'd like to see this be addressed.

    If your hot water comes out of a berko boiler for tea and coffee. Why not fill a jug and let it cool.

    Some lateral thinking!


  • #27
    Stheno
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    FizzleSticks wrote: »
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    Did they give any basis as to why they would not supply it?


  • #28
    Staplor
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    I bet it's a boat restaurant, I was on one recently and wasn't impressed when they refused tap water, I haven't been back, food was rank too, good old groupon


  • #29
    davo10
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    Does a premises which serves food not require a license?, if it does, are they not required to have a mains tap?


  • #30
    FizzleSticks
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  • #31
    davo10
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    FizzleSticks wrote: »
    There is no place to put the jug outside of the kitchen, I'm not even joking. I'm not buying a jug or being made responsible to make sure there's always cooled down water in it. There is a small table beside the staff toilets which is where we eat or lunch. Anyway I'm not looking for alternatives, we already do that, I'm looking for clarification on I stand asking for drinking water on behalf of not just myself but for other staff.

    Bottom line..they don't have to or so it seems.

    Have they a tap connected to the mains? Did you ask?


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