Why are there so many Starbucks in Dublin?

Faux Socialist · 16-08-2014 12:40PM #1

I don't understand why there are so many Starbucks in Dublin and I don't see the attraction to them either. Any time of been in any them the staff are just so 'super cool' they come off as been a bit arrogant and rude.

I notice the customers there are mostly foreigners and the staff too. So what exactly is the attraction?

Starbucks seem to be targeted a lot by rioters. It makes me wonder how much of their profits actually stay in Ireland and maybe this explains why.

Can anyway shed light on this for me?

BBDBB · 16-08-2014 12:42PM

because Capitalism + Sheep mentality = a for need muffins

Highflyer13 · 16-08-2014 12:48PM

I believe their plan is to open up lots of small ones around the city centre to squeeze out the competition and eventually when the competition is gone they'll migrate these into a couple of bigger ones. A very aggressive business strategy. I've lost count of the number of them in the Dame Street, Westmoreland Street and O'Connell Street areas. I actually like their coffee but their food is awful. In general the coffee shop business is booming in Dublin.

Fr_Dougal · 16-08-2014 12:51PM

Starbucks is like any other chain, no matter what country you're in you know what you're going to get and the quality of the product. Which is pretty average in Starbucks case, but a lot better than some of the muck served up as coffee in some places.

Hootanany · 16-08-2014 12:56PM

Dr Evils plan is working

16-08-2014 01:07PM

I like the bigger ones for sitting in the couches. Plus you get free refills on the normal coffee. Or one free refill? I only stayed long enough for one refill
Usually go to o'briens otherwise. Or a guy who runs a coffee stand nearby, he's great

16-08-2014 01:08PM

BBDBB wrote: »

because Capitalism + Sheep mentality = a for need muffins

ermagerd those capitalist sheep

:D:D

bumper234 · 16-08-2014 01:10PM

Faux Socialist wrote: »

I don't understand why there are so many Starbucks in Dublin and I don't see the attraction to them either. Any time of been in any them the staff are just so 'super cool' they come off as been a bit arrogant and rude.

I notice the customers there are mostly foreigners and the staff too. So what exactly is the attraction?

Starbucks seem to be targeted a lot by rioters. It makes me wonder how much of their profits actually stay in Ireland and maybe this explains why.

Can anyway shed light on this for me?

+ your name = :rolleyes:

takamichinoku · 16-08-2014 01:13PM

Why are there so few Starbucks in Galway?

Not complaining at all, it's just pretty surprising there hasn't been one (ignoring the fake starbucks in the college, that's not a real starbucks).

everlast75 · 16-08-2014 01:42PM

That strategy is exactly the one they use.

My bro lives in the USA and he told me the people of Washington were sick of the chain and a certain public opinion was expressed that if they opened another, they would put the windows in.

Starbucks opened another and the windows kept getting put in.

Starbucks decided to close that one down

nc6000 · 16-08-2014 01:50PM

Faux Socialist wrote: »

It makes me wonder how much of their profits actually stay in Ireland and maybe this explains why.

Can anyway shed light on this for me?

Do you really have to wonder too much? I'd say that about absolutely none of their profits stays in Ireland.

LostBoy101 · 16-08-2014 01:54PM

Their coffee is vastly overrated.

Mr. Incognito · 16-08-2014 01:56PM

Part of the franchise agreement terms are you have to open a new store every two years.

They are contracted to expand aggressively

Tar.Aldarion · 16-08-2014 02:10PM

coffee is fine/nice, and they dont charge extra for soya milk like most places. There are so many for the same reason there are so many mcdonalds.
There are factors like brand loyalty along with inbuilt expectations, it will be clean, staff will be fine, good hours, good seating, there will be free wifi and so on. It is also fast compared to hipster, sorry, artisan coffee.

SpaceTime · 16-08-2014 02:13PM

Costa actually has been the major aggressor in the Irish market until Starbucks began to franchise.

nala_rinaldo · 16-08-2014 02:40PM

i don’t like coffe because it gives me diarhoea, especially onse in the coffe shops. and the price of one cup of coffe is like one large bag of roasted milled coffe beans. easier to buy one and drink it a year. and if you didn’t know you can put the whole thing in a large put and boil, drain it and boil out the water, put sugar or alcohol in it and store on shelf or put in fridge if you don’t want sugar or alcohol. and you will always have coffe.
as for the starbucks, i’ve no idea why it’s even a big deal. i first seen canadian students being obsessed with it, starbucks bla bla. i don’t care about starbucks, see no particular thing about it. the only thing is they have good sitting and i snatched a few mugs from their shop cause they look kind of cool

and it’s free.
so starbucks can go back to america, the same for mcdonalds. ireland needs to open something traditional irish.

Grayson · 16-08-2014 02:42PM

nc6000 wrote: »

Do you really have to wonder too much? I'd say that about absolutely none of their profits stays in Ireland.

All the starbucks in Ireland are owned by the guy who owns the leisureplex in blanch.

There's a few franchise stores that aren't. You can tell because they have the starbucks coffee but none of the food.

Grayson · 16-08-2014 02:43PM

nala_rinaldo wrote: »

i don’t like coffe because it gives me diarhoea, especially onse in the coffe shops. and the price of one cup of coffe is like the one large bag of roasted milled coffe beans. easier to buy one and drink it a year. and if you didn’t know you can put the whole thing in a large put and boil, drain it and boil out the water, put sugar or alcohol in it and store on shelf or put in fridge if you don’t want sugar or alcohol. and you will always have coffe.
as for the starbucks, i’ve no idea why it’s even a big deal. i first seen canadian students being obsessed with it, starbucks bla bla. i don’t care about starbucks, see no particular thing about it. the only thing is they have good sitting and i snatched a few mugs from their shop cause they look kind of cool and it’s free.
so starbucks can go back to america, the same for mcdonalds. ireland needs to open something traditional irish.

The mugs aren't free. That's called stealing.

nala_rinaldo · 16-08-2014 02:49PM

Grayson wrote: »

The mugs aren't free. That's called stealing.

ye whatever. i paid 5 euro for that coffe that made me sick, so it’s mine.

Vincent Vega · 16-08-2014 02:50PM

33 stores in Co Dublin! :mad:

Fred Swanson · 16-08-2014 02:53PM

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nala_rinaldo · 16-08-2014 02:55PM

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that’s pretty much it. the atmosphere is relaxing in starbucks. it’s a place to hang out rather than eat. i can’t drink coffe. it’s just not my thing. makes me sick all the time. i only like coffe if i make it myself. because i know how much i put.

Morag · 16-08-2014 02:56PM

SpaceTime wrote: »

Costa actually has been the major aggressor in the Irish market until Starbucks began to franchise.

AT least Costa is irish owned and pays more taxes then Starbucks do

Frank Lee Midere · 16-08-2014 02:56PM

Every time some thing new appears in Dublin people go bat sh1t.

Excepts for its pubs and some local shops, Ireland has been dominated by British and American capitalism for generations.

e_e · 16-08-2014 02:57PM

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They must be going ironically because Starbucks is as mainstream as McDonalds by this point.

dvdman1 · 16-08-2014 02:57PM

hot water and beans plus min wage staff...sell the stuff on for 3-5euro...profit is guaranteed even if footfall isn't that high

Grayson · 16-08-2014 02:58PM

nala_rinaldo wrote: »

that’s pretty much it. the atmosphere is relaxing in starbucks. it’s a place to hang out rather than eat. i can’t drink coffe. it’s just not my thing. makes me sick all the time. i only like coffe if i make it myself. because i know how much i put.

Yoou could ask them for a half caff or decaff. You can even specify the number of shots they put in it.

hell, my regular drink in starbucks is a triple shot venti peppermint mocha with only two pumps of mocha (No whip).
That's because I think a mocha is too heavy and this tastes like a big cup of after eight

Faux Socialist · 16-08-2014 02:58PM

e_e wrote: »

They must be going ironically because Starbucks is as mainstream as McDonalds by this point.

Since when was there a major need for coffee? It's not like its a major component of the human diet

nala_rinaldo · 16-08-2014 02:59PM

e_e wrote: »

They must be going ironically because Starbucks is as mainstream as McDonalds by this point.

that’s the best they could find i suppose.

Aard · 16-08-2014 02:59PM

I can never understand why people have such difficulty accepting that Starbucks exists and that (shock horror) some people actually like going there.

It's a cafe, it's popular, get over it!

deadybai · 16-08-2014 03:00PM

why is there Costa coffees everywhere outside Dublin and no starbucks outside Dublin. The prices in Costa are ridiculous. How they are so popular is beyond me.

Vincent Vega · 16-08-2014 03:00PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeNNhUf8oYk

entropi · 16-08-2014 03:01PM

Its because there are so many more hipsters in Dublin than anywhere else in Ireland. Their coffee is shite, the atmosphere in the room is hollow too. I much prefer going somewhere that sells good coffee and they don't need to write your name on a cup to remember who ordered what.

nala_rinaldo · 16-08-2014 03:03PM

Aard wrote: »

I can never understand why people have such difficulty accepting that Starbucks exists and that (shock horror) some people actually like going there.

It's a cafe, it's popular, get over it!

the question is why there are so many of them. there are even two starbuck right opposite each other on that westmoreland street.

nala_rinaldo · 16-08-2014 03:07PM

entropi wrote: »

Its because there are so many more hipsters in Dublin than anywhere else in Ireland. Their coffee is shite, the atmosphere in the room is hollow too. I much prefer going somewhere that sells good coffee and they don't need to write your name on a cup to remember who ordered what.

i actually like that they write your name on cup of coffe you order. but i realise that it might not be everyon’s cup of tea

Grayson · 16-08-2014 03:09PM

nala_rinaldo wrote: »

i actually like that they write your name on cup of coffe you order. but i realise that it might not be everyon’s cup of tea

Yep. I like to get the coffee I ordered.

16-08-2014 03:09PM

nala_rinaldo wrote: »

i actually like that they write your name on cup of coffe you order. but i realise that it might not be everyon’s cup of tea

Excuse me that's not your cup of tea that's mine!! :mad:

entropi · 16-08-2014 03:10PM

nala_rinaldo wrote: »

i actually like that they write your name on cup of coffe you order. but i realise that it might not be everyon’s cup of tea

I hope so, since they'll be serving up coffee

bnt · 16-08-2014 03:32PM

You think it's bad in Dublin? In downtown Vancouver, at one point during the 1990s, there were three Starbucks coffee shops at a single intersection i.e three of the four corner shops were Starbucks. By the time I visited there in 1999, one of them had closed, but still, I supposed it catered to folks too lazy to cross an intersection to get to a Starbucks.

edit: I just realised that I haven't been in to a Starbucks in Dublin at all. When travelling, it's a different story, but I prefer Costa if I'm in the UK.

krudler · 16-08-2014 03:39PM

Come to Canada, where Tim Hortons is everywhere, and I mean everywhere. I can list off a dozen places within 3 blocks of my apartment. The subway station near me has two of them, one on the ground floor entrance one directly underneath. Starbucks is nearly always busier though but there's not as many.

Lapin · 16-08-2014 03:55PM

takamichinoku wrote: »

Why are there so few Starbucks in Galway?

Not complaining at all, it's just pretty surprising there hasn't been one (ignoring the fake starbucks in the college, that's not a real starbucks).

I'm glad they're not in Galway and hope they never arrive.

One of the great attractions in the city is the number of locally owned cafés and little one off restaurants in every street.

It would be a shame to see places like Cross St, High St, Quay St etc being dominated by Starbucks, Costa and Insomnia.

Galway planners come in for a lot of stick, but in fairness they have (in the main) kept the conveniance stores away from the core of the city and prevented the place from being littered with the likes of Spar, Centra and Londis shops selling Cuisine de France muck that have destroyed much of the centre of Dublin.

As for the Starbucks in the university, I can never understand the people who queue there for ages to fork out nearly €3 for hot frothed milk with a suspicion of caffine when they can get perfectly good coffee a minute away in Smokies for less than half the price.

biko · 16-08-2014 03:59PM

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WilyCoyote · 16-08-2014 04:30PM

Just as like out here ......... because there are people who think it's the essence of cool to sit/walk around with a coffee in their hands. Or because they believe that they cannot function without having a hydrated crushed bean slurping around their tum-tums.

SpaceTime · 16-08-2014 04:33PM

Morag wrote: »

AT least Costa is irish owned and pays more taxes then Starbucks do

No it isn't. Costa is British and it's operated by a company in Cork who seem to have the entire Irish franchise.

bumper234 · 16-08-2014 04:34PM

SpaceTime wrote: »

No it isn't. Costa is British and it's operated by a company in Cork who seem to have the entire Irish franchise.

Cost coffee?

Costa****infortune more like

takamichinoku · 16-08-2014 04:38PM

Have to say, not Starbucks in general but I love cafes, such an easy excuse and environment to meet a person for a nice chat but also quite easy to get away from said chat if it's crap. The coffee always seems to last about the length I want it to to keep the chat going and all.

SpaceTime · 16-08-2014 04:39PM

deadybai wrote: »

why is there Costa coffees everywhere outside Dublin and no starbucks outside Dublin. The prices in Costa are ridiculous. How they are so popular is beyond me.

There's a Starbucks in Mahon Point in Cork, fairly huge one.

Costa started out in Cork and Munster, the franchisee is based in Cork so, I guess that might explain it.

Starbucks also made a lot of errors when it opened its own stores in Dublin then paused rollout during the deepest part of the economic crisis. So I think the Costa franchise just had a very long head start.

No harm tbh, Starbucks isn't all that fantastic and I'm not keen on them squeezing everyone else out.

Cork, Dublin and Galway etc have some nice independent coffee shops wouldn't like to see them pushed our for a bland global chain.

smellmepower · 16-08-2014 05:02PM

How the hell are people who go to Starbucks considered hipsters?its not some niche, jazz playing independent coffee shop staffed by starving ortists,its a bland multi-national chain in the same vein as McDonalds,Burger King,Subway etc.

beks101 · 16-08-2014 05:03PM

krudler wrote: »

Come to Canada, where Tim Hortons is everywhere, and I mean everywhere. I can list off a dozen places within 3 blocks of my apartment. The subway station near me has two of them, one on the ground floor entrance one directly underneath. Starbucks is nearly always busier though but there's not as many.

And way WAYYY cheaper, I'd say you could get four French Vanilla lattes in Tims for the cost of one in Starbucks, probably throw in a few cheap and nasty blueberry fritters with that too.

Second Cup is the business. I miss Second Cup.

krudler · 16-08-2014 05:05PM

beks101 wrote: »

And way WAYYY cheaper, I'd say you could get four French Vanilla lattes in Tims for the cost of one in Starbucks, probably throw in a few cheap and nasty blueberry fritters with that too.

Second Cup is the business. I miss Second Cup.

Haven't tried Second Cup yet, and there's one literally around the corner from me so might later. Starbucks is crazy expensive and their coffee is meh, McDonalds or Tim Hortons are much nicer. A large coffee and donut in Tims costs $2.85, you wouldnt even get a medium coffee for that in Starbucks.

veetwin · 16-08-2014 05:06PM

TheZohan wrote: »

Which is pretty average in Starbucks case, but a lot better than some of the muck served up as coffee in some places.

I'm curious. Which coffee chain/shop in your opinion serves worse coffee than Starbucks?

Why are there so many Starbucks in Dublin?

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