1 in 1000 Irish Muslims are jihadi fighters

unkel · 05-09-2014 10:48AM #1

That's worryingly high. The figure for the UK is 1 in 6000, for the US 1 in 25000

Article in Irish Independent, based on CNN research

Wondering why the figure is so high here? The article doesn't have any suggestions (for those of you who haven't read it)

TwoShedsJackson · 05-09-2014 10:51AM

Great, the less religious lunatics around the better. If they want to kill for their religion, they can start with themselves.

Frynge · 05-09-2014 10:57AM

If that is the case it should read that Ireland has 30 jihadist and not 1:1000 Muslims are jihadist.

Why all the Muslim fearmongering of late there was never any "1:1000 irish Catholics are pedofiles" headlines.

Peregrine · 05-09-2014 11:00AM

Well, we do have a higher proportion of first and second generation Muslim immigrants here than the UK. A higher proportion of British Muslims would have been born in the UK, lived in the UK and so on. You wouldn't expect them to be as patriotic about affairs back home. The total population of Muslims in Ireland is only a couple of ten thousand. Probability and all that.

The US is different again.

LeinsterDub · 05-09-2014 11:02AM

We do love us an auld freedom fighter

RobbingBandit · 05-09-2014 11:02AM

Why all the Muslim bashing threads today?

cml387 · 05-09-2014 11:02AM

Nothing to see here, just a manipulation of statistics to generate a scare story.

The Moldy Gowl · 05-09-2014 11:04AM

That is .001% negible.

What's the % of Catholics who hate the north because they are Protestants?

Will you cop on and stop with these ****e % that have no context at all.

Frynge · 05-09-2014 11:05AM

cml387 wrote: »

Nothing to see here, just a manipulation of statistics to generate a scare story.

Also a complete misrepresentation of statistics 1:1000 is not even near the 1:1400 ratio in the article.

kneemos · 05-09-2014 11:07AM

If it's not 110% they're just not trying.

The Moldy Gowl · 05-09-2014 11:07AM

Frynge wrote: »

Also a complete misrepresentation of statistics 1:1000 is not even near the 1:1400 ratio in the article.

1 in 50 posters post absolute ****e and pad statistics.

Ulysses Gaze · 05-09-2014 11:09AM

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Why all the Muslim bashing threads today?

Bashing? Would have thought there was more debate than bashing tbh.

Frynge · 05-09-2014 11:09AM

Now that I think of it one of the guys working for me keeps saying he is going to blow us up any time we give him hassle.

DipStick McSwindler · 05-09-2014 11:09AM

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cletus van damme · 05-09-2014 11:10AM

Frynge wrote: »

Why all the Muslim fearmongering of late there was never any "1:1000 irish Catholics are pedofiles" headlines.

one cos it's not true as there is no link to being a catholic and a peadophile. There is a link between being a jihadi and a muslim . You need to be a muslim to get into the jihadi club . I don't imagine peadophiles are that strict on membership.

two if it was you would expect a headline to spell 'peadophile' correctly.

ScumLord · 05-09-2014 11:10AM

How many of those jihadis were just lads that got warped drunk and woke up the next day in Syria with a gun in their hands? Happens more often than you'd think. The problem is they can't use the power of alcohol to get drunk and wake up back home again.

DipStick McSwindler · 05-09-2014 11:11AM

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cml387 · 05-09-2014 11:15AM

ScumLord wrote: »

How many of those jihadis were just lads that got warped drunk and woke up the next day in Syria with a gun in their hands? Happens more often than you'd think. The problem is they can't use the power of alcohol to get drunk and wake up back home again.

Do you have a statistic for that?

kneemos · 05-09-2014 11:17AM

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two if it was you would expect a headline to spell 'peadophile' correctly.[/quote]

And maybe an old full stop or a comma.

Frynge · 05-09-2014 11:21AM

cletus van damme wrote: »

one cos it's not true as there is no link to being a catholic and a peadophile. There is a link between being a jihadi and a muslim . You need to be a muslim to get into the jihadi club . I don't imagine peadophiles are that strict on membership.

two if it was you would expect a headline to spell 'peadophile' correctly.

Note to self; spell peadophile correctly.

Fair point on the link, but from what I'm aware of the jihadist are openly accepting converts who wish to fight with them so being Muslim might no be all that important.

i_wonder_why · 05-09-2014 11:24AM

Frynge wrote: »

If that is the case it should read that Ireland has 30 jihadist and not 1:1000 Muslims are jihadist.

Why all the Muslim fearmongering of late there was never any "1:1000 irish Catholics are pedofiles" headlines.

yeah , i think its concern about ducks which should be front and centre , all those ducks getting all radical and calling for sharia to be implemented

i_wonder_why · 05-09-2014 11:25AM

Nimr wrote: »

Well, we do have a higher proportion of first and second generation Muslim immigrants here than the UK. A higher proportion of British Muslims would have been born in the UK, lived in the UK and so on. You wouldn't expect them to be as patriotic about affairs back home. The total population of Muslims in Ireland is only a couple of ten thousand. Probability and all that.

The US is different again.

i thought we only got muslims who are progressive liberals

El Weirdo · 05-09-2014 11:26AM

unkel wrote: »

...for those of you who haven't read it...

Did you?

...Ireland is providing almost one per 1,400 Muslims living in the country...

Grayson · 05-09-2014 11:30AM

cletus van damme wrote: »

one cos it's not true as there is no link to being a catholic and a peadophile. There is a link between being a jihadi and a muslim . You need to be a muslim to get into the jihadi club . I don't imagine peadophiles are that strict on membership.

two if it was you would expect a headline to spell 'peadophile' correctly.

That's true. catholic does not mean paedophile.

Catholic priest on the other hand.....

cletus van damme · 05-09-2014 11:31AM

IrishFeeney92 wrote: »

Thats something a catholic would say

yes im sure catholics would agree with me

Grayson wrote: »

That's true. catholic does not mean paedophile.

Catholic priest on the other hand.....

rough! but harder too argue with.
shame on the decent priests though

ScumLord · 05-09-2014 11:31AM

cml387 wrote: »

Do you have a statistic for that?

Yes, 1:2000 Irish people wake up in syria with a gun in their hand after night on the drink.

bear1 · 05-09-2014 11:31AM

I would be hoping whatever "intelligence agency" we have in this country knows exactly the ones that have gone and make damn sure they don't set foot in this country again.

i_wonder_why · 05-09-2014 11:32AM

Grayson wrote: »

That's true. catholic does not mean paedophile.

Catholic priest on the other hand.....

sweeping generalisations are fine as long as its about catholicism

Inanna · 05-09-2014 11:33AM

cletus van damme wrote: »

one cos it's not true as there is no link to being a catholic and a peadophile. There is a link between being a jihadi and a muslim . You need to be a muslim to get into the jihadi club . I don't imagine peadophiles are that strict on membership.

two if it was you would expect a headline to spell 'peadophile' correctly.

It would also be good if you did that yourself - it's 'paedophile' not 'peadophile'. One would expect someone pulling another up on their spelling to actually know how to spell the word they're supposedly correcting.

o1s1n · 05-09-2014 11:33AM

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Bashing? Would have thought there was more debate than bashing tbh.

Unfortunately some people seem to think that any type of discussion about a religion constitutes 'bashing'.

We should just all STFU and worship our gown wearing overlords.

Dyr · 05-09-2014 11:34AM

I'm more worried about what percentage of them are mentalists with mindsets from the middle ages.

Like this is a country that has so few religious nut jobs that we need to have them bussed in from out foreign

deandean · 05-09-2014 11:37AM

Just wait till they get their Jihadist training campus open in North Dublin. That 1 in 1000 will become 1 in 50!

RossieMan · 05-09-2014 11:37AM

How can you accurately get a figure like that?
Sure how would they know what they are.

Pure guess work.

Grayson · 05-09-2014 11:39AM

deandean wrote: »

Just wait till they get their Jihadist training campus open in North Dublin. That 1 in 1000 will become 1 in 50!

I hear there's a FAS course for it.

ScumLord · 05-09-2014 11:43AM

Bambi wrote: »

I'm more worried about what percentage of them are mentalists with mindsets from the middle ages.

Like this is a country that has so few religious nut jobs that we need to have them bussed in from out foreign

We have our fair share of indigenous nutjobs that have joined up to all sorts of rebels actions over the years.

mphalo1 · 05-09-2014 11:53AM

ScumLord wrote:

We have our fair share of indigenous nutjobs that have joined up to all sorts of rebels actions over the years.

and you can thank them for your 28 county's , enjoy!!

Peregrine · 05-09-2014 11:57AM

mphalo1 wrote: »

and you can thank them for your 28 county's , enjoy!!

Have we gained two?

c_man · 05-09-2014 12:08PM

Going abroad to fight in someone else's war is a fine Irish tradition going way back. More Irish than the Irish themselves...

Macavity. · 05-09-2014 12:08PM

It's really not that high, if anything it shows that the vast amount of Muslims are normal and not to be feared.

mphalo1 · 05-09-2014 12:08PM

no .only 26 countrys sorry for getting your hopes up ,sorry about that.

bear1 · 05-09-2014 12:11PM

mphalo1 wrote: »

and you can thank them for your 28 county's , enjoy!!

mphalo1 wrote: »

no .only 26 countrys sorry for getting your hopes up ,sorry about that.

Err ok?

cletus van damme · 05-09-2014 12:26PM

Inanna wrote: »

It would also be good if you did that yourself - it's 'paedophile' not 'peadophile'. One would expect someone pulling another up on their spelling to actually know how to spell the word they're supposedly correcting.

I wasn't writing a headline.
But how right you are.

Good on you , pick on the very minor point I made and ignore the main thrust of my point.

DarkyHughes · 05-09-2014 12:33PM

That's like what 3 people or something?

Hotfail.com · 05-09-2014 12:36PM

DarkyHughes wrote: »

That's like what 3 people or something?

50

Beano · 05-09-2014 12:57PM

Inanna wrote: »

It would also be good if you did that yourself - it's 'paedophile' not 'peadophile'. One would expect someone pulling another up on their spelling to actually know how to spell the word they're supposedly correcting.

them peas can be fierce sexy.

tom_k · 05-09-2014 03:25PM

I wonder as a matter of interest how many people are there in Ireland who identify themselves as Muslim?

The article quoted in the OP says 43000, while an article in the Irish Times earlier this week which is the subject of another thread stated the number as being "approximately 65000".

Hotfail.com · 05-09-2014 03:27PM

tom_k wrote: »

I wonder as a matter of interest how many people are there in Ireland who identify themselves as Muslim?

The article quoted in the OP says 43000, while an article in the Irish Times earlier this week which is the subject of another thread stated the number as being "approximately 65000".

The last census said nearly 50000 Muslims lived here... when was that, 2011? 65000 sounds like a good estimate.

Son Of A Vidic · 05-09-2014 03:33PM

Frynge wrote: »

Why all the Muslim feamongering of late

Of late? It's never far from the surface around here. Some don't need much of an excuse, for drumming up some Fox News style scaremongering and hate.

05-09-2014 03:39PM

How many of those 30 or so recently arrived from the countries in question and went back when they saw the barbarism being carried out against the people left behind?

TheGoldenAges · 05-09-2014 03:45PM

I actually went to school with someone who went over to Syria and fought. He was a likable enough chap just brainwashed out of his mind really.

The Purveyor of Truth · 05-09-2014 04:09PM

Hotfail.com wrote: »

50

Ah sure now.. Jihadists, great bunch of lads.

1 in 1000 Irish Muslims are jihadi fighters

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