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Getting hypnotized to help quit smoking

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,097 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    Congrats, keep with the finding it easier! You're passed the worst of it now!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 tigger25


    jimmurt wrote: »
    Dunno if there has been a thread on this already (too lazy to check).

    Has anyone tried this and what do they think of it?. I heard good and bad things so maybe it depends on the person. There's a clinic near me and I was thinking of giving it a try.

    I'm a bit cynical so need convincing. I also hate being ripped off.

    Thanks.
    Hey there,
    Also looking to have hypnotherapy done. Just wondering if you ended up booking an appointment or did you abandon the idea? would love to know if you tracked down someone and if you found it a success...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭benagain


    annascott wrote: »
    Hi Benagain

    Well done! I hope that you are still managing not to smoke. To go from 60-0 is an amazing achievment.

    AS
    bit late but hey ho there ya go . ty for ur kind words annascott, quick up date as of now im still smoke free goin on a med cruise next week with the money ive saved , if u really wanna stop best of luck it can be done , and if u really dont wanna stop dont havanother fag ,either way choice is yours respect ........... fook wheres me arm bands


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭Pebbles68


    I am a smoker and have been for about 25 years. Truth is i really don't want to quit. I know all the reasons I should quit but really I'm not in that place yet.

    I did get hypnotherapy to help weight loss. I found it an amazing. But don't confuse hypnosis with therapy. Just because hypnosis happens that doesn't mean you magically wake up a new person. The hypnotist I went to did lots of different things during the sessions, some were better than others. The sessions were all about me examining my thoughts, motivation and my future. I still had to make choices and changes to my lifestyle to reach the weight I wanted to be. It was strange but after the hypnotherapy makeing the healthy choice just seemed like the natural, and obvious choice. I presume the therapy to quit smoking does something similar. But be careful, all hypnotists are not the same and I visited 4 before I eventually decided on the right one for me.

    Good luck, and I'll let you know if i ever do decide to quit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭ezra_pound


    annascott wrote: »
    I have heard of people being successfully hypnotized (there is someone in Northern Ireland with a very good reputation) however, I really believe that Allen Carr is the only way to go. If you don't have the patience to read the book, go to one of his seminars (you can even smoke while attending!). They are held in Dublin and Belfast (probably other places too) and really are the only way to come out not feeling 'deprived' at not smoking.

    After being a heavy smoker for 28 years (to the extent that I would not go out to a pub or restaurant or visit a non-smoking friend) I have not smoked this year, and whenever I feel like I might like one - I quickly remember how awful they actually are and how fortunate I am to be a non-smoker. Only Allen Carr takes away the 'longing'. I used will power for the first few weeks and struggled all the time. Now, thanks to AC, it is natural not to smoke. The only thing I feel I am missing out on now is bad smelling clothes and hair.



    Anna Scott


    The Alan Carr method is a form of hypnosis.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 bigmark39


    ezra_pound wrote: »
    The Alan Carr method is a form of hypnosis.

    The Alan Carr method has nothing to do with hypnosis. Carr's method is basically convincing you that smoking is a habit, not an addiction. Therefore habit's are easily broken compared to genuine addictions. It's like anything else, will work for some, not for others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,097 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    bigmark39 wrote: »
    The Alan Carr method has nothing to do with hypnosis. Carr's method is basically convincing you that smoking is a habit, not an addiction. Therefore habit's are easily broken compared to genuine addictions. It's like anything else, will work for some, not for others.

    It's the convincing thats the hypnosis. Hypnosis isnt just the "SLEEP!" model you see on stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 VapeTime


    I've always been skeptical about hypnotism... I've not met anyone who has gone to have it done so I have no personal experience with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,112 ✭✭✭Danonino.


    bigmark39 wrote: »
    The Alan Carr method has nothing to do with hypnosis. Carr's method is basically convincing you that smoking is a habit, not an addiction. Therefore habit's are easily broken compared to genuine addictions. It's like anything else, will work for some, not for others.

    I quit with willpower and had read the Alan Carr book. He speaks at length about nicotine addiction and how its similar to other drug addictions... I dont think at anytime he dismisses Nicotine addiction as not a genuine addiction.

    Just saying.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 bigmark39


    Danonino. wrote: »
    I quit with willpower and had read the Alan Carr book. He speaks at length about nicotine addiction and how its similar to other drug addictions... I dont think at anytime he dismisses Nicotine addiction as not a genuine addiction.

    Just saying.

    I've read the book too and the theme of the book says that smoking is just a habit, rather than an addiction. The whole book is geared to raising your willpower through minimising how addictive smoking can be, and I supppose if you can change how you feel about smoking strongly enough, it might work for some people if the book influences them enough.

    Similarly, Hypnotherapy tries to strengthen your willpower through suggestion also, but in a different way. Bottom line with stopping anything is being motivated enough to do something about it, however way you go about it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,112 ✭✭✭Danonino.


    bigmark39 wrote: »
    .... snip... Bottom line with stopping anything is being motivated enough to do something about it, however way you go about it.

    Our interpretation of his book seems to differ but your last line couldn't be any better. I guess you can take whatever meaning or method you choose but if the end result is what you want then thats what matters :D


    Personally I read Alan Carr's book about 6 years ago and thought it was complete and utter rubbish. Failed to quit a bunch of times. Just about 2 years ago I read it again when I was convinced i wanted to quit and thought it was great. The book didn't change... my attitude had changed. I guess I finally didn't enjoy smoking at all and actually enjoyed quitting :o (as lame and bull**** as that sounds)

    Hypnotherapy sounds like a strange one to me, but if you feel it will get you to the goal go for it. Nothing to lose.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 bigmark39


    If you can motivate yourself enough, you don't need a book or hypnotherapy or anything else, but some people need a push or support of some kind, whether it's from a book or hypnosis or whatever.

    A mate of mine smoked 40 a day for years and couldn't give them up until his Da got lung cancer. He got his motivation from that and hasn't smoked since.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 463 ✭✭mister gullible


    I don't smoke now, gave up a couple of years ago because I had to for specific health reasons. Some years previously went to a hypnotist/NLP guy who had a huge success rate (according to his ad). I went wanting to give up and with an open mind. Did everything I was asked to do breathing, relaxing etc. After about 20 minutes started to get annoyed with the stupid old rubbish the hypnotist was spouting - I think I was getting bored and his culchie accent was getting on my wick. Was relieved to get away from him. My experience - if this is anything to go by - hypnotism doesn't work. Might as well spend your cash on crystals/angels/reiki :P.
    If you do try hypnotism - ask for a cash back guarantee!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 bigmark39


    I don't smoke now, gave up a couple of years ago because I had to for specific health reasons. Some years previously went to a hypnotist/NLP guy who had a huge success rate (according to his ad). I went wanting to give up and with an open mind. Did everything I was asked to do breathing, relaxing etc. After about 20 minutes started to get annoyed with the stupid old rubbish the hypnotist was spouting - I think I was getting bored and his culchie accent was getting on my wick. Was relieved to get away from him. My experience - if this is anything to go by - hypnotism doesn't work. Might as well spend your cash on crystals/angels/reiki :P.
    If you do try hypnotism - ask for a cash back guarantee!!
    I've been a Hypnotherapist for 17 years and it can be very successful for stopping smoking and many other things. It does not work for everyone, but some therapists are better than others. There's many people practicing today that are rubbish and motivated purely by money than by helping people.
    250 euros is far too much and you should only need one session. If one session doesn't work, it's unlikely more will.
    I charge 50 euros and also teach people self_hypnosis so they can give themselves a boost if necessary in future. It takes an hour of my time and aanyone that smokes can afford 50e.
    As I said there are poor Hypnotherapists and there are also skeptical people who want to say it doesn't work without giving it a chance, or who have had sessions paid for them by others. I wouldn't see people like this as they usually don't want to quit, although they say they do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭ganger


    Bigmark39 where do you work from????????


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 bigmark39


    ganger wrote: »
    Bigmark39 where do you work from????????
    Cavan town.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 Caliban


    I have recently attended a 2 and a half hour session at a cost of 250 Euro. I was a little apprehensive about the idea but decided to try it as I am serious about kicking the filthy habit.
    In stead of focusing on the smoking issue, the "therapist" started digging into my life and previous trauma etc. This took up the full session and no attention was given to the reason why I was there in the first place, despite me asking about it at least four times. I left the session somewhat light headed but no closer to a result, quite simply because the man paid no heed to my repeated questions and kept going his own direction. I wasn't looking for counselling, yet I got a mouthful of it. Counselling would typically cost between 50 and 80 Euro per hour, so, even for that purpose it was poor value for money, considering that this person was not registered in that capacity and kept avoiding my questions regarding his accreditation.
    I feel robbed but I went in there knowing that I was running a risk of being fleeced - and I got fleeced for sure. I must add that I was keen to participate to get the benefit from the session. The next thing was an e-mail inviting me to a training session (at a cost of course). I gave no permission for the use of my e-mail address, so I guess one could call that spamming? Furthermore there was no follow up to inquire about the experience or the success. It would appear as if these guys are out to make a buck with little concern about the success. I bet you won't read anything negative on their so called recommendations on their site. decide for yourself if you want to blow 250 Euro and take a chance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭crotalus667


    Caliban wrote: »
    I have recently attended a 2 and a half hour session at a cost of 250 Euro. I was a little apprehensive about the idea but decided to try it as I am serious about kicking the filthy habit.
    In stead of focusing on the smoking issue, the "therapist" started digging into my life and previous trauma etc. This took up the full session and no attention was given to the reason why I was there.

    Did he say where he trained ??? if some one goes into you stop smoking or indeed some thing else in is unethical to go off and look for or deal with other issues


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 789 ✭✭✭Fakman87


    Caliban wrote: »
    I have recently attended a 2 and a half hour session at a cost of 250 Euro. I was a little apprehensive about the idea but decided to try it as I am serious about kicking the filthy habit.
    In stead of focusing on the smoking issue, the "therapist" started digging into my life and previous trauma etc. This took up the full session and no attention was given to the reason why I was there in the first place, despite me asking about it at least four times. I left the session somewhat light headed but no closer to a result, quite simply because the man paid no heed to my repeated questions and kept going his own direction. I wasn't looking for counselling, yet I got a mouthful of it. Counselling would typically cost between 50 and 80 Euro per hour, so, even for that purpose it was poor value for money, considering that this person was not registered in that capacity and kept avoiding my questions regarding his accreditation.
    I feel robbed but I went in there knowing that I was running a risk of being fleeced - and I got fleeced for sure. I must add that I was keen to participate to get the benefit from the session. The next thing was an e-mail inviting me to a training session (at a cost of course). I gave no permission for the use of my e-mail address, so I guess one could call that spamming? Furthermore there was no follow up to inquire about the experience or the success. It would appear as if these guys are out to make a buck with little concern about the success. I bet you won't read anything negative on their so called recommendations on their site. decide for yourself if you want to blow 250 Euro and take a chance.
    Hi Caliban, can I ask which company this was with?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭CK73


    annascott wrote: »
    I have heard of people being successfully hypnotized (there is someone in Northern Ireland with a very good reputation) however, I really believe that Allen Carr is the only way to go. If you don't have the patience to read the book, go to one of his seminars (you can even smoke while attending!). They are held in Dublin and Belfast (probably other places too) and really are the only way to come out not feeling 'deprived' at not smoking.

    After being a heavy smoker for 28 years (to the extent that I would not go out to a pub or restaurant or visit a non-smoking friend) I have not smoked this year, and whenever I feel like I might like one - I quickly remember how awful they actually are and how fortunate I am to be a non-smoker. Only Allen Carr takes away the 'longing'. I used will power for the first few weeks and struggled all the time. Now, thanks to AC, it is natural not to smoke. The only thing I feel I am missing out on now is bad smelling clothes and hair.



    Anna Scott

    Having just completed a diploma in Hypnotherapy I would beg to differ that he is the only person that can do this. It's about fitting the correct method and motivation to the person and using the correct terminology. You do have to really want to do it, but if you do they can also provide you with the motivation to keep to it.

    I had to do a quit smoking case study for the diploma and was successful and as the person is a personal friend, I know that they are still not smoking several months later.

    The main problem is a lot of the time people want to lose weight, or stop smoking for someone else or because they 'feel' they should, but their heart isn't really in it. You really do have to want change to benefit from it, otherwise you will be sabotaging it and not allowing your subconscious to take on the new suggestions. Sometimes this can be achieved the second time round when you see how disappointed loved ones are, but best to go with an open mind and a real passion to stop first.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 463 ✭✭mister gullible


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 kurumul


    Hi Caliban,
    Whatever you do CHECK the qualifications of the hypnotherapist BEFORE you go ahead. !
    There are some very dubious people and organizations out there who accredit themselves and give themselves fancy titles.
    Any hypnotherapist needs to have undergone psychological training and obtained degrees in psychoanalysis or the like BEFORE taking up hypnotherapy. There are too many out there who read books and watch video's for a few weekends and then set themselves up to charge exorbitant fees to gullible visitors. If someone says he has "advdiphypno" then he is a fraud as this kind of qualification does not exist and was 'thought up' by these 'practitioners' themselves. !
    What you wrote sounded all too familiar as those guys often go off on a tangent and don't address the issue you wanted addressed. !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 Spearsharp


    way more expensive than vaping! Wish you luck if you have a one, then share with us!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,221 ✭✭✭braddun


    try acupuncture first,make sure they use disposable needles


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