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"Hunger strikers" outed as liars

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,730 ✭✭✭Sheep Lover


    They were probably hungry sure, who'd blame them


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    This the same group that were going to start refusing water?

    What happened to the strike? They just abandoned it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Specialun


    Im confused

    They quit the hunger strike..are they not allowed to do so


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/jailed-water-charges-protesters-abandon-hunger-strike-1.2114548

    Fine specimens indeed by the looks of things. How low can you get?

    And to think of those hoodwinked in to protesting their "support".

    So....is there any evidence either way....other than well placed sources saying they got there meals (which legally they have to)

    Any proof either way the meals were ate???


    Genuinely curious


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,822 ✭✭✭liam7831


    Specialun wrote: »
    Im confused

    They quit the hunger strike..are they not allowed to do so

    LMAO


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99


    They are going to wreck the legitimacy of opposing IW by protest if other protesters or politicians don't shut them up by publically disowning them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭Spencer Winterbotham


    What a f*cking circus.

    Just pay for the poxy water like every other european country does.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Specialun


    liam7831 wrote: »
    LMAO


    Omg rofl


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Maybe they found out it was free?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭Streetwalker


    What a f*cking circus.

    Just pay for the poxy water like every other european country does.

    We already do. I'm not paying twice simple as that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 262 ✭✭qt3.14


    Water cannon in the door of their cells I say. Give them all the free water they want that way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,284 ✭✭✭StewartGriffin


    The OP is a Muppet!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    We already do. I'm not paying twice simple as that.

    Not sufficiently to cover the costs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 262 ✭✭qt3.14


    We already do. I'm not paying twice simple as that.

    The country, as a whole, doesn't pay enough tax to pay for everything. That's why we borrow millions every day just to keep the lights on. People bitched when the government cut services and they birch when they try to raise revenue but the simple reality is that a combination of the two is necessary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,148 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    And to think of those hoodwinked in to protesting their "support".

    Protesting their "support" would be what you are doing.. =/

    You've somehow managed to hoodwink yourself there. Well done..

    There's a phrase for that afaik... 'foisted by one's own retard'


  • Administrators, Business & Finance Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,978 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Toots


    Michael Batty of Edenmore Avenue, Coolock, Co Dublin, had a 28-day sentence imposed. However, a stay was put on his imprisonment after the court heard he was in Lanzarote in Spain as he needs to be in a dry and sunny climate due to chronic asthma.

    Oh ffs!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Its like some sort of Peter Kay comedy sketch at this stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,892 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    So....is there any evidence either way....other than well placed sources saying they got there meals (which legally they have to)

    Any proof either way the meals were ate???


    Genuinely curious


    They were eating since breakfast and probably before that since a source told RTE radio this afternoon he did not think they were genuinely on any strike despite protests from one of the girlfriends that they were even at that stage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Toots wrote: »
    Oh ffs!!

    Probably on the disability and the wife on carers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,892 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Protesting their "support" would be what you are doing.. =/

    You've somehow managed to hoodwink yourself there. Well done..

    There's a phrase for that afaik... 'foisted by one's own retard'

    I know your angry. But don't be angry with me, be angry with them for torpedoing what was left of the support they had with this stunt.

    I'm sure people can decide on their own what to make of these people now. I don't have to say anything.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    efb wrote: »
    Probably on the disability and the wife on carers

    Would you actually be surprised


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    They should be allowed to do some work in the Prison like the rest of the inmates. When they get out somebody can just tell them they dont need to pay the Water Charge anymore, their wages paid for it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Gatling wrote: »
    Would you actually be surprised

    No. That's why they didn't protest USC - doesn't affect them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,794 ✭✭✭Aongus Von Bismarck


    There's a phrase for that afaik... 'foisted by one's own retard'

    It's 'hoist by one's own petard' actually. From a play called Hamlet by a chap called Shakespeare.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    It's 'hoist by one's own petard' actually. From a play called Hamlet by a chap called Shakespeare.

    I think he was punning dear


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Specialun


    I know your angry. But don't be angry with me, be angry with them for torpedoing what was left of the support they had with this stunt.

    I'm sure people can decide on their own what to make of these people now. I don't have to say anything.



    But you have..



    Fine specimens indeed by the looks of things. How low can you get?

    And to think of those hoodwinked in to protesting their "support".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,696 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    It's 'hoist by one's own petard' actually. From a play called Hamlet by a chap called Shakespeare.

    Always thought a Petard was a sword,it's actually a shaped bomb for blowing holes in walls or fences.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,052 ✭✭✭Un Croissant


    Well this is pretty ****ing funny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,892 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    What would Bobby Sands make of it?
    However, well placed sources said Derek Byrne, Paul Moore and Damien O’Neill had taken full meals in prison on Monday. They had breakfast in the morning, followed by lunch just after midday and a cooked tea in the evening, before being locked in their cells for the night.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,245 ✭✭✭myshirt


    As long as the national currency of this country remains the brown envelope, this type of reform can have no credibility.

    The principle is right in broadening the tax base, I agree with it. But there isn't an ounce of sincerity. Not a morsel. They need to refund the monies currently paid for water through general taxation, and then ringfence any future monies collected through water charges, to be spent on water services only.

    A lot of the setting up of Irish water was dominated by the banging out of deals for senior council officials in order that a smooth handover and knowledge transfer would happen.

    And €80m in consultancy fees? We had a client who stuck €50m into an I.T venture and intellectual property development during the same period, now valued in excess of €1bn. That was considered only an 'acceptable' use of money by the financiers. The €80m these guys spent was just absolutely indefensible.

    Who the hell do these people think they are?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Letting on to their friends and families out marching in the sleet and rain they're being martyrs for the cause and all along they're in there getting three square meals a day, sky sports and a warm bed.

    Canny Fückers :D.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    What would Bobby Sands make of it?

    Never to trust an unnamed source??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,696 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Never to trust an unnamed source??

    Clair Byrnes show on RTE at the moment has it as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,303 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    I am honestly embarrassed at the thought of people from other countries reading stories like his....

    These people must be absolute morons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭fleet_admiral


    Misleading article

    Edenmore is in Raheny not Coolock


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,892 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Never to trust an unnamed source??

    Not unnamed actually. One appeared as I said on RTE radio earlier today adamant that he didn't think there was any hunger strike on. This despite the girlfriend of one of the prisoners saying there was. It kinda all unravelled from there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,696 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    kneemos wrote: »
    Clair Byrnes show on RTE at the moment has it as well.

    Comical by the way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭kingchess


    They must be delighted that they have jobs to go to when they get out and are not sucking on the public tit and..................they do not have jobs ,do they??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Misleading article

    Edenmore is in Raheny not Coolock

    Irish Times as bad as Indo


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Misleading article

    Edenmore is in Raheny not Coolock

    My home dot ie gave them the address???


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    The public sector is inefficient and wasteful, our taxes are being wasted.

    Name a country it isn't?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,262 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    We already do. I'm not paying twice simple as that.



    Nobody has, or will "pay twice" for water.

    It costs approx 1.2 bn to run the 1000+ water and wastewater treatment plants.

    We have only paid that once in each past year.

    And, in the future, we'll only pay that once, i.e. we'll pay 1.2bn, not 2.4bn.

    What is changing, is that instead of us borrowing plus using taxes to pay the 1.2 bn, we will now finance it with taxes + direct charges.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Specialun


    efb wrote: »
    Name a country it isn't?


    Monaco


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,262 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    qt3.14 wrote: »
    The country, as a whole, doesn't pay enough tax to pay for everything. That's why we borrow millions every day just to keep the lights on. People bitched when the government cut services and they birch when they try to raise revenue but the simple reality is that a combination of the two is necessary.

    This is the painful reality.

    We collect less tax than we spend on public services plus welfare.

    I'd love to tell you there's an easier way out than tax increases and public spending cuts.

    Not having to pay interest on the banking debts that we took on would help, yes, but we'd still have to run a tight budget.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Specialun wrote: »
    Monaco

    Not a country


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Specialun


    efb wrote: »
    Not a country

    It is ???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭Streetwalker


    MadYaker wrote: »
    I am honestly embarrassed at the thought of people from other countries reading stories like his....

    These people must be absolute morons.

    IW or the government?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭wallywhittle


    Apparently the protesters said today just wasn't the right day to start the hunger strike, but said it would definitely go ahead tomorrow or the next day.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    it would definitely go ahead tomorrow or the next day.

    Starting just after dinner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,020 ✭✭✭ianuss


    Specialun wrote: »
    It is ???


    It isn't.


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