"Hunger strikers" outed as liars

They are going to wreck the legitimacy of opposing IW by protest if other protesters or politicians don't shut them up by publically disowning them.

liam7831 wrote: »

LMAO

Omg rofl

Streetwalker wrote: »

We already do. I'm not paying twice simple as that.

The country, as a whole, doesn't pay enough tax to pay for everything. That's why we borrow millions every day just to keep the lights on. People bitched when the government cut services and they birch when they try to raise revenue but the simple reality is that a combination of the two is necessary.

They should be allowed to do some work in the Prison like the rest of the inmates. When they get out somebody can just tell them they dont need to pay the Water Charge anymore, their wages paid for it.

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I know your angry. But don't be angry with me, be angry with them for torpedoing what was left of the support they had with this stunt.

I'm sure people can decide on their own what to make of these people now. I don't have to say anything.

But you have..



Fine specimens indeed by the looks of things. How low can you get?

And to think of those hoodwinked in to protesting their "support".

As long as the national currency of this country remains the brown envelope, this type of reform can have no credibility.

The principle is right in broadening the tax base, I agree with it. But there isn't an ounce of sincerity. Not a morsel. They need to refund the monies currently paid for water through general taxation, and then ringfence any future monies collected through water charges, to be spent on water services only.

A lot of the setting up of Irish water was dominated by the banging out of deals for senior council officials in order that a smooth handover and knowledge transfer would happen.

And €80m in consultancy fees? We had a client who stuck €50m into an I.T venture and intellectual property development during the same period, now valued in excess of €1bn. That was considered only an 'acceptable' use of money by the financiers. The €80m these guys spent was just absolutely indefensible.

Who the hell do these people think they are?

I am honestly embarrassed at the thought of people from other countries reading stories like his....

These people must be absolute morons.

They must be delighted that they have jobs to go to when they get out and are not sucking on the public tit and..................they do not have jobs ,do they??

Streetwalker wrote: »

We already do. I'm not paying twice simple as that.

Nobody has, or will "pay twice" for water.

It costs approx 1.2 bn to run the 1000+ water and wastewater treatment plants.

We have only paid that once in each past year.

And, in the future, we'll only pay that once, i.e. we'll pay 1.2bn, not 2.4bn.

What is changing, is that instead of us borrowing plus using taxes to pay the 1.2 bn, we will now finance it with taxes + direct charges.

qt3.14 wrote: »

The country, as a whole, doesn't pay enough tax to pay for everything. That's why we borrow millions every day just to keep the lights on. People bitched when the government cut services and they birch when they try to raise revenue but the simple reality is that a combination of the two is necessary.

This is the painful reality.

We collect less tax than we spend on public services plus welfare.

I'd love to tell you there's an easier way out than tax increases and public spending cuts.

Not having to pay interest on the banking debts that we took on would help, yes, but we'd still have to run a tight budget.

efb wrote: »

Not a country

It is ???

Specialun wrote: »

It is ???

It isn't.