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Strava Dublin Heat Map

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 669 ✭✭✭emerald007


    Class


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    Murph_D wrote: »

    I would have thought Kilkeel and Crossmaglen would be lit up!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,044 ✭✭✭chickey2


    Great site. I had a good look at it earlier. Phoenix park really stands out! I often do the Bohernabreena reservoir loop which is also quite popular but will have to check out a few of the routes that run off it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭_Tombstone_


    Is this the data they sell to city planners?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    Surprised at how much the various harbour walls stand out. Yes I can understand that people will go run out along them occasionally, but really wouldn't strike me as somewhere to have as part of my regular run routes which is what must be happening for them to show up as bright.

    You can see a few routes to what must be commuting to train stations routes on there as well which is cool. That is the kind of information that city planners should be making use of.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭gerard_65


    A lot more on the south-side and middle-class areas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,685 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    gerard_65 wrote: »
    A lot more on the south-side and middle-class areas.

    Yes, although you have to factor in the south side's greater population (as far as I know). There does seem to be a middle class bias alright, in terms of where people run at least. When you look at Dublin parkrun stats too it seems that middle class areas have the bigger events too. Not sure what that means but it's quite striking and surely of interest to those interested in developing the sport.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 279 ✭✭shane1981


    robinph wrote: »
    Surprised at how much the various harbour walls stand out. Yes I can understand that people will go run out along them occasionally, but really wouldn't strike me as somewhere to have as part of my regular run routes which is what must be happening for them to show up as bright.

    I run the seafront routes and harbour walls from Fairview to Sutton or dun laoghaire quite a bit.
    Never really thought about it but I guess I favour them as there are fewer junctions and traffic lights so you can zone out a bit more. Weather can be extreme though!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭gerard_65




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,685 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Cool down on the ferry? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    Murph_D wrote: »
    Yes, although you have to factor in the south side's greater population (as far as I know). There does seem to be a middle class bias alright, in terms of where people run at least.

    you have to factor in that this isn't a map of where people run, it's a map of where people who use Strava run.
    People obviously use it in races a lot - the Dublin marathon route stands out clearly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,685 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Indeed, as do the various parkrun routes. I'd imagine it's a fairly good sample, especially as Strava runs on smartphones and so it's not just limited to the Garmin set.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 126 ✭✭Netwerk_Errer


    Kenyans are a lazy bunch aren't they.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    Despite running being a very cheap sport to take part in, it is unfortunately still a very white middle class activity in general.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭mossym


    robinph wrote: »
    Despite running being a very cheap sport to take part in, it is unfortunately still a very white middle class activity in general.

    while that's probably true, the higher number of devices capable of recording runs and uploading to strava among that demographic probably plays a significant role.

    can be 10x the number of runners in kenya but if they don't record then they won't show up on the heatmap

    brings up the old joke about runs not counting unless they are recorded on garmins/polars


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,685 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Actually Nairobi lights up pretty well on that map.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭mossym


    looks like the Finns are the toughest runners, most northerly heatpoints seem to be in northern finland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,468 ✭✭✭sconhome


    mossym wrote: »

    brings up the old joke about runs not counting unless they are recorded on garmins/polars

    But Polar doesn't sync (easily) to Strava so there is a whole lot of data missing!!

    ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,584 ✭✭✭✭tunney


    robinph wrote: »
    Despite running being a very cheap sport to take part in, it is unfortunately still a very white middle class activity in general.

    Well of course in Ireland its white. Come back in twenty years.

    Middle class? The plodding around using strava is. Actual running as in with clubs and where the statement "a sub 40km is considered something magical" would be laughed at, much less so.

    I'm sure you have a wealth of research and documentation on your claims, as opposed to a poll on the RSP Facebook page.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    tunney wrote: »
    Well of course in Ireland its white. Come back in twenty years.

    Middle class? The plodding around using strava is. Actual running as in with clubs and where the statement "a sub 40km is considered something magical" would be laughed at, much less so.

    I'm sure you have a wealth of research and documentation on your claims, as opposed to a poll on the RSP Facebook page.

    Absolutely, I've done extensive studies on the topic, just seem to have misplaced the papers now so will have to resort to personal observations and making stuff up instead. ;)


    Anyway, living in a city (not in Ireland) with an over 25% non-white population (I did just check the census data from 2013), I can count using just my fingers the number of non-white people that I know of in any of the local running clubs or see competing in local races. Also with our club being located neighbouring a couple of less affluent areas of the city, we do try to make attempts to get more members from those areas and the local schools. It just doesn't work that well.
    Having done the UK National XC a couple of weeks ago this was also an exceedingly white event, and way out of sync with the population of the UK and ethnicity. I'm sure I saw in a previous London Marathon media document details on ethnicity of participants, but all I could find just now was a document showing job titles:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhORuxOwZhGydFhEUkthMVhlcDBKVldsQ3ZwaEhjSHc#gid=0
    Whilst categorising class based just on a self reported job title isn't that accurate and you can't make any assumptions for "student", The largest categories of accountants and bankers it would be fairly safe to assume are living relatively well above the poverty line.

    There does seem to be a very slightly better mix of the population amongst a couple of the local parkruns that would appear to reflect the local population a bit better, and that is the idea of what parkruns are meant to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,504 ✭✭✭✭Krusty_Clown


    AKW wrote: »
    But Polar doesn't sync (easily) to Strava so there is a whole lot of data missing!!

    ;)
    Not that much data.

    ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,584 ✭✭✭✭tunney


    robinph wrote: »
    Absolutely, I've done extensive studies on the topic, just seem to have misplaced the papers now so will have to resort to personal observations and making stuff up instead. ;)


    Anyway, living in a city (not in Ireland) with an over 25% non-white population (I did just check the census data from 2013), I can count using just my fingers the number of non-white people that I know of in any of the local running clubs or see competing in local races. Also with our club being located neighbouring a couple of less affluent areas of the city, we do try to make attempts to get more members from those areas and the local schools. It just doesn't work that well.
    Having done the UK National XC a couple of weeks ago this was also an exceedingly white event, and way out of sync with the population of the UK and ethnicity. I'm sure I saw in a previous London Marathon media document details on ethnicity of participants, but all I could find just now was a document showing job titles:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhORuxOwZhGydFhEUkthMVhlcDBKVldsQ3ZwaEhjSHc#gid=0
    Whilst categorising class based just on a self reported job title isn't that accurate and you can't make any assumptions for "student", The largest categories of accountants and bankers it would be fairly safe to assume are living relatively well above the poverty line.

    There does seem to be a very slightly better mix of the population amongst a couple of the local parkruns that would appear to reflect the local population a bit better, and that is the idea of what parkruns are meant to do.

    Thats my favourite kind of research. One done in a different country and then extrapolated to Ireland.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,305 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    Well first you said
    Well of course in Ireland its white. Come back in twenty years.

    Then you get an example from outside Ireland and you come back with
    Thats my favourite kind of research. One done in a different country and then extrapolated to Ireland.

    You can't win with some people.

    By the way, you seem to be the only one to "extrapole to Ireland"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 620 ✭✭✭Djoucer


    tunney wrote: »
    Given that "extrapole" is not a real word I can only assume that you are making some sort of racist comment about having too many eastern europeans in ireland - an extra pole and all that..

    Seriously? What's the point in even saying nonsense like that. At best, it's an awful Dad joke, at worse, it's derailing an interesting thread.


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