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Why Does Nintendo Have A Death Wish?

  • 11-03-2015 05:45PM
    #1
    Dayum
    Closed Accounts Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Dayum


    It seems this company attracts incompetence like shite attracts flies...

    Back in the 90's Sony approached Nintendo about designing a CD based system and leaving the old cartridge tech in the dustbin of history. Nintendo initially liked the idea but then backed out at the last minute because, thinking they were Gods gift to the gaming industry, they wanted a bigger cut from Sony's project. Sony were furious and launched the new technology anyway - it was called the Sony Playstation instead of the Nintendo Playstation. Sony subsequently went on to bury the Nintendo 64 and it hasn't been something the company have bounced back from.

    But they're still making mistakes! This is a company that simply refuses to come into the 21st century. Literally nobody at Nintendo has heard of the internet. It's like witnessing a car crash in slow-motion. And now the Youtube disaster whereby they're denying themselves free publicity by shutting down channels that play their games and locking commentators into closed-shop, fully-fledged Nintendo mouth-pieces and taking a massive cut from their earnings for the privilege.

    Apart from the branding nightmare fiasco of the Wii U (was anyone sacked for that?) Nintendo had a golden opportunity handed to them in 2012. Microsoft and Sony's systems were ancient in tech terms and consumers were craving a new piece of hardware. Nintendo could have released a powerful console and drew third party developers and publishers onside and attempted to regain a large market share. What did Nintendo do? Release the Wii U.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see this company gone from the hardware world in a few years. They've got a few billion in cash but they'll never be as big as they once were. Good riddance, I say. Incompetence of the highest order.


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  • #2
    Generic Dreadhead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    This again? :confused:

    Have you a Wii U?


  • #3
    Allyall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    I'm pretty sure you have many of your versions of events arseways.

    But anyway..


  • #4
    Dozen Wicked Words
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭Dozen Wicked Words


    Nice history of Nintendo, can't help thinking there are a few of tiny omissions. Gameboy, DS, 3ds or Wii ring any bells. Got this odd feeling they did quite well.


  • #5
    super_furry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,351 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    They pretty much own the handheld console market and while they may have made a misstep with the Wii U they still make money on every one sold.


  • #6
    Generic Dreadhead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    Didn't I essentially read here before that (para-phrasing here) essentially Nintendo have enough cash assets to literally buy out Sonys Playstation division and Microsofts X-Box division. And before you all get all PCMR on me, remind yourself of all the PC developer stalwarts that have been junked in the last few years.
    super_furry wrote: »
    They pretty much own the handheld console market and while they may have made a misstep with the Wii U they still make money on every one sold.

    And aren't other home consoles sold at a loss, expecting to make the profit on games at a later stage?


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  • #7
    johnny_ultimate
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,340 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Their handheld business is still a massive success. The Wii U has continued gaining traction thanks to an increasingly enviable software selection (and this year looks set to be the strongest yet in that respect). Commercially it's fair to say Amiibo have surpassed all expectations, and while I still think they're utter nonsense I'm glad it has offered the company a blockbuster hit. And hey, they're still profitable: http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2015-01-28-wii-u-still-underperforming-but-nintendo-predicts-profit

    Gaming would be a significantly blander place without Nintendo. They still make games that are among the best of the best, and the Wii U is home to several all time classics. They still take creative risks other hardware manufacturers, publishers and developers wouldn't dream of taking, and can find new life in the most seemingly over-saturated of ideas. Their consoles are wonderfully idiosyncratic beacons in a vanilla hardware world.

    Have they made errors of judgement? Absolutely, like every company has. But Nintendo have fought back from worse situations than they're currently in, and even if they retreat to handheld only or a hybrid console next generation no doubt they will continue surprising and innovating, because that's what they always do. Who the **** cares what the resolution is when they're so much fun? (although it is worth pointing out many Wii U games are little technical miracles)

    Nintendo understand pure, unadulterated fun, creativity and joy in a way no other company does. In short: Long live Nintendo, because they are magnificent bastards.


  • #8
    Generic Dreadhead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    johnny_ultimate wrote: »
    Nintendo understand pure, unadulterated fun, creativity and joy in a way no other company does.

    I whole heartedly agree with this!

    When other companies try you end up with things like Sunset Overdrive


  • #9
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,969 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Dayum wrote: »
    It seems this company attracts incompetence like shite attracts flies...

    Back in the 90's Sony approached Nintendo about designing a CD based system and leaving the old cartridge tech in the dustbin of history. Nintendo initially liked the idea but then backed out at the last minute because, thinking they were Gods gift to the gaming industry, they wanted a bigger cut from Sony's project. Sony were furious and launched the new technology anyway - it was called the Sony Playstation instead of the Nintendo Playstation. Sony subsequently went on to bury the Nintendo 64 and it hasn't been something the company have bounced back from.

    And that there is the uninformed YouTuber story of those events. Nintendo getting out of that deal was the best thing they could have done, they made a complete screw up of the contract with Sony, allowing them to make and publish games for the add on without paying any license fee and also they could make a combination unit without paying anything to Nintendo. The deal was heavily skewed in Sony's favour and it would create a new competitor that would be eating their profits. Now that might have happened anyway in the end but Nintendo didn't facilitate that, it was just excellent advertising and an excellent product from Sony.

    Anyway Nintendo will be pretty safe. Their business is based on rereleasing high quality games and in the industry at the moment nobody does it better. It's why the 3DS is still around despite the mobile market, people want nintendo games. They made big mistakes with the WiiU but it's not like they wanted it to fail and with the huge success of the Wii it's only natural they went down that road rather than go for the high tech console and games which is actually looking like a business model which might not be sustainable.

    Also just buy a WiiU already, it's still a far better Machine than the One and PS4.
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  • #10
    Shiminay
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 28,633 Mod ✭✭✭✭Shiminay


    Here's the last time we had this discussion.

    TL;DR: Nintendo make a lot of really silly decisions, but make a metric sht-ton of great games and their rabid fanbase will make sure that all sins are forgiven.


  • #11
    johnny_ultimate
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,340 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    OP I notice you make no reference to any actual Nintendo games in your post. What are your thoughts on recent 3DS and Wii U games?


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  • #12
    Mickeroo
    Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,686 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Cormac... wrote: »

    When other companies try you end up with things like Sunset Overdrive

    One of the best games of last year? :)


  • #13
    Generic Dreadhead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    One of the best games of last year? :)

    It wasn't an outright criticism, I have not played SO, I was just saying that it, and lets say Saints Row 4 (and maybe Gat Out of Hell) and Far Cry 3 Blood Dragon are some of the very limited "fun 1st and foremost" titles out there recently. Whatever game I picked I'd be lamblasted by someone nattering on about The Stanley Parable or something anyway :P
    johnny_ultimate wrote: »
    OP I notice you make no reference to any actual Nintendo games in your post. What are your thoughts on recent 3DS and Wii U games?

    50/1 OP does not own a Nintendo console or has not played a Nintendo game since Wii Sports Bowling. I will pay using the "Thanks" button. I bet 1 Thanks!

    f**k the stanley parable fwiw


  • #14
    ThisRegard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Dayum wrote: »
    .Nintendo could have released a powerful console and drew third party developers and publishers onside and attempted to regain a large market share. What did Nintendo do? Release the Wii U.

    Power does not a great console make.

    The Wii U is my favourite console of the last few years and the games are just so much fun. Games are what's important to me, not bragging rights over CPUs and GPUs.


  • #15
    Q_Ball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,323 ✭✭✭Q_Ball


    Cormac... wrote: »
    And aren't other home consoles sold at a loss, expecting to make the profit on games at a later stage?

    Sony and Microsoft sell their consoles below cost. As you said, they earn back some money on licensing but also that the cost of the console comes down over the course of its lifetime so that eventually they turn a minor profit.

    Nintendo have a policy of not doing this, although I think the WiiU might be the first one to be sold below cost.


  • #16
    Allyall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


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  • #17
    nesf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    The Youtube thing is, well, genuinely worrying. They're claiming they've the right to take a large chunk out of your ad revenue gross, not your net, so it's going to impact very hard on mid sized channels that weren't making that much to begin with. There's no negotiation, there's just a standard cut. I'm not convinced that they have any right to do this and I really hope they try and claim on a review or something on a channel under a major Youtube network.


  • #18
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,969 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    nesf wrote: »
    The Youtube thing is, well, genuinely worrying. They're claiming they've the right to take a large chunk out of your ad revenue gross, not your net, so it's going to impact very hard on mid sized channels that weren't making that much to begin with. There's no negotiation, there's just a standard cut. I'm not convinced that they have any right to do this and I really hope they try and claim on a review or something on a channel under a major Youtube network.

    This is not really Nintendo policy though, it's their lawyer brigade making busy work for themselves. I'm sure they'll cop on to how stupid they are being soon like they did with Evo and the smash bros fiasco.
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  • #19
    Irelandcool
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 266 ✭✭Irelandcool


    at least we can have comfortable mature debate here unlike some of those click bait and troll videos on the internet.


  • #20
    The_Valeyard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    Doesn't really matter,

    Steam machines will kill of all competition.

    *throws grenade*


  • #21
    mayordenis
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,676 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    The_Valeyard wrote: »
    Doesn't really matter,

    Steam machines will kill of all competition.

    *throws grenade*

    Well ideally steam machines would kill off the other 2 pieces of homogenous bland crap, leaving just the PC Master Race and the Nintendo Fundamentalists to somehow combine.

    *throws gasoline toward grenade*


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  • #22
    ShadowHearth
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,924 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    Every single time I see a "nintendo death thread" I think of this.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAUY1J8KizU


  • #23
    Cuddlesworth
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,010 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    Microsofts gaming division loses money hand over fist. As a long term investment I have no doubt its still so far deep in the red it doesn't know what black looks like anymore.

    Sonys gaming division bounces in around operating profit most years but there net profit is shockingly bad considering sales volume.

    Nintendo hasn't been doing very well the last four years but their losses are so low and they have so much money from good business practises that they can continue to lose money at this rate for decades.

    If anybody has a deathwish, its Microsoft's gaming division. The company is heading into unknown territory and the xbox is a lead weight around their neck.


  • #24
    nesf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    This is not really Nintendo policy though, it's their lawyer brigade making busy work for themselves. I'm sure they'll cop on to how stupid they are being soon like they did with Evo and the smash bros fiasco.

    Hopefully it dies fast. This could kill Let's Play if it became a widespread thing.


  • #25
    Calliope Scarce Spout
    Posts: 0 ✭ Calliope Scarce Spout


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Power does not a great console make.

    The Wii U is my favourite console of the last few years and the games are just so much fun. Games are what's important to me, not bragging rights over CPUs and GPUs.

    That is absolutely your right and I don't disagree with you, but the Wii U has tanked. There's no getting around it.


  • #26
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,969 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Haylee Purring Logger wrote: »
    That is absolutely your right and I don't disagree with you, but the Wii U has tanked. There's no getting around it.

    If you discounted consoles that tanked you'd miss out on some of the best videogaming of all time including the Neo Geo Pocket, Dreamcast, Mega-CD, Gamecube and Virtual Boy (yes the thing has very few games but most are pretty great).

    WiiU might be tanking but it doesn't matter, it's already got a big collection of amazing games on it and this year promises even more. My PS4 is sitting in my parents place unused at the moment because there's absolutely nothing on it my PC doesn't provide... until Bloodbourne is out.
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  • #27
    Dayum
    Closed Accounts Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Dayum


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    If you discounted consoles that tanked you'd miss out on some of the best videogaming of all time including the Neo Geo Pocket, Dreamcast, Mega-CD, Gamecube and Virtual Boy (yes the thing has very few games but most are pretty great).

    WiiU might be tanking but it doesn't matter, it's already got a big collection of amazing games on it and this year promises even more. My PS4 is sitting in my parents place unused at the moment because there's absolutely nothing on it my PC doesn't provide... until Bloodbourne is out.

    The thread title is "Why does Nintendo have a death wish?" as in why is a company making such glaring mistakes that a first year business student could see and not "do you personally enjoy Nintendo games?"

    This is not subjective. I understand there are people that enjoy Mario and co. and I did too in the past but I'm speaking cold hard figures here and the stats don't lie. The Wii U is an unmitigated disaster.


  • #28
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,969 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Again does that even matter when Nintendo are still supporting the system with great games? It might be a problem for nintendo but for anyone that likes videogames it's fantastic.
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  • #29
    Allyall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    Dayum wrote: »
    The thread title is "Why does Nintendo have a death wish?" as in why is a company making such glaring mistakes that a first year business student could see and not "do you personally enjoy Nintendo games?"

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    Dayum wrote: »
    This is not subjective. I understand there are people that enjoy Mario and co. and I did too in the past but I'm speaking cold hard figures here and the stats don't lie. The Wii U is an unmitigated disaster.
    You also said (And I'm not pointing out the incorrect parts of your post)
    Dayum wrote: »
    This is a company that simply refuses to come into the 21st century. Literally nobody at Nintendo has heard of the internet.
    and
    Good riddance, I say.
    Where is the hostility coming from, may i ask? I'm not going to speculate, just a question.

    I honestly think, they're the only company taking risks, and moving forward. They're not copying an easily cloned format and releasing the same games as everyone else.. All of their last few consoles have been different.. :confused: implemented different ways to play, and My God (for lack of a better expression), made the gaming experience more interactive and enjoyable than pressing button combos.

    [I'm just after getting why so many have avoided properly commenting on this. - I just heard myself repeat things I've repeated before :(:(]

    The 'Nintendo MBA Gaming Success' meme/picture may be old, but it suits these threads..


  • #30
    CiDeRmAn
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,729 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Honestly, this thread title and original post is tantamount to trolling.
    We've had this kind of bull before and I'm surprised that anyone would feel the need to trot it out again, unless for kicks.


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  • #31
    CiDeRmAn
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    Shiminay wrote: »
    Here's the last time we had this discussion.

    TL;DR: Nintendo make a lot of really silly decisions, but make a metric sht-ton of great games and their rabid fanbase will make sure that all sins are forgiven.

    That kind of statement is just ridiculous, as if people who enjoy Nintendos output are somehow blind to the companies missteps.
    Quite the contrary, if anything we are more acutely aware seeing as we have more experience with their hardware and software and so have more insight into issues, such as tying game purchases to consoles instead of accounts.
    Plus, a WiiU owner is more likely to own another current gen console, yet still enjoy buying for the Nintendo format, probably because the likes of Mario Kart 8 is unsurpassed on the PS4 or XB1.


  • #32
    evo2000
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭evo2000


    The steambox is a steaming pile of ****e its a poor mans version of a alienware pc at an extortionary price! on top of that, why would you want the steam OS when u cud have windows that already does the same thing and more...


  • #33
    johnny_ultimate
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,340 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Everybody! Please stop referring to actual Nintendo games in your arguments. That sort of carry on has no place in the games forum.
    Dayum wrote: »
    Sony subsequently went on to bury the Nintendo 64 and it hasn't been something the company have bounced back from.

    I know. The miserly Wii, DS and 3DS sales had nothing on the commercial success of Sony's directly competing hardware. The cold hard figures don't lie. Unless one happens to completely misrepresent them or something.


  • #34
    SeantheMan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,912 ✭✭✭SeantheMan


    Dayum wrote: »
    It seems this company attracts incompetence like shite attracts flies...

    Back in the 90's Sony approached Nintendo about designing a CD based system and leaving the old cartridge tech in the dustbin of history. Nintendo initially liked the idea but then backed out at the last minute because, thinking they were Gods gift to the gaming industry, they wanted a bigger cut from Sony's project. Sony were furious and launched the new technology anyway - it was called the Sony Playstation instead of the Nintendo Playstation. Sony subsequently went on to bury the Nintendo 64 and it hasn't been something the company have bounced back from.

    But they're still making mistakes! This is a company that simply refuses to come into the 21st century.


    I wouldn't be surprised to see this company gone from the hardware world in a few years. They've got a few billion in cash but they'll never be as big as they once were. Good riddance, I say. Incompetence of the highest order.

    Nintendo that bad ?

    Just had a quick search on Wikipedia there

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_million-selling_game_consoles

    Nintendo have 3 of the best top 5 selling pieces of gaming hardware.
    The Wii also outsold PS3 and 360


  • #35
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,969 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    There's an awful lot of hyperbole on the Internet these days with people shouting down that such and such a company is finished after one mistake and can't make games anymore. This post is a prime example but you also see it with Square Enix and Final Fantasy 13 (ignoring that the sequels were great and their other output like type 0 and Bravely Default) or Bioware with Dragon Age 2 and Mass Effect 3 (which discounting the end to what was always a generic space opera was still a fantastic game).
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  • #36
    CiDeRmAn
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    Can we not just say
    No, as evidence suggests Nintendo do not, in fact, have a death wish /end thread


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  • #37
    calex71
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,126 ✭✭✭✭calex71


    The selfish man in me actually wishes they did have a death wish , so they fold and do a sega and start publishing their IP's on the other systems. They have many games at the minute that I watch with a jealous eye and an empty wallet :(


  • #38
    Captain Chaos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    SeantheMan wrote: »
    The Wii also outsold PS3 and 360

    It sure did but it didn't shift even a fraction of the games that the other two did. The Wii was bought by many casual gamers who don't buy many games at all. I know many people, mainly women that bought the Wii as a fitness machine and then never used it.


  • #39
    CiDeRmAn
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,729 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    The thing is that, more so than Sega, Nintendo have tied software innovation to their hardware innovations.
    The N64, DS, 3DS, Wii and WiiU all have key Unique Selling Points built right into the hardware and the key software has used these features to create something new and original, something that coupled with Nintendo's ability to craft really good games, results in the end user getting something really special.
    Reduce gaming to a device with CPU/GPU grunt of X and displaying on a TV in Y resolution and it doesn't matter who makes the console.

    It's akin to suggesting that musical instrument development and innovation should stop NOW and we should just concentrate on producing tunes on the devices and with the styles that exist now.
    If that had happened in the 1920's we'd have no Rock'n Roll, no Rap, no Disco :eek:

    The other hardware manufactures just don't seem to be interested in taking risks, looking at haptics, looking at ways to interact and insinuate into the game developers crafted worlds and experiences, not to say we don't get brilliant stuff from Sony or MS, we do, but without another player there to challenge the status quo, we''' just be playing Playbox's for eternity, and I really don't want that, do you?


  • #40
    Dayum
    Closed Accounts Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Dayum


    evo2000 wrote: »
    The steambox is a steaming pile of ****e its a poor mans version of a alienware pc at an extortionary price! on top of that, why would you want the steam OS when u cud have windows that already does the same thing and more...

    First of all you'll find no self respecting PC enthusiast buying anything from Alienware. Far cheaper to build your own, or at least pick out parts and have Hardwarevesand build it for you and send it to your door. Dell Alienware? FFS...
    You wouldn't be going around broadcasting that, you'd be ridiculed.

    We don't know the full extent of the Steam Machines just yet. A lot of companies are jumping on the hype train trying to cash in while the irons hot. Eventually, as with all these third party products, the cream will rise to the top. One or two will gradually stand out over time nevermind the massive cut in prices closer to November launch.

    Steam OS is an attempt to keep PC gaming open source i.e - Linex. They're not moving everything over for the good of their health. The problem is the complete mess that was Windows 8. Valve thinks Microsoft are closing down the system and they fear for the future.


  • #41
    nesf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Dayum wrote: »
    First of all you'll find no self respecting PC enthusiast buying anything from Alienware. Far cheaper to build your own, or at least pick out parts and have Hardwarevesand build it for you and send it to your door. Dell Alienware? FFS...
    You wouldn't be going around broadcasting that, you'd be ridiculed.

    Steam Machines, by default, aren't aimed at PC enthusiasts who can build PCs though. They're aiming the Steam Link at us since we already have the hardware to play the games somewhere else in the house (and this is a good idea by them rather than trying to sell us a whole new box).

    The current Steam Machines on offer are, eh, not good value for money and worse the people they're aimed at (i.e. not PC enthusiasts) won't necessarily be able to tell this and unless there's volume don't expect good deals here. Currently it's strange and very hard to figure out who the Steam Machines are supposed to be for actually.


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  • #42
    Star Lord
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    Build yourself a decent new system with a UEFI bios, bingo, Steam Machine.

    This is all getting away from the OP's death wish against Nintendo though.


  • #43
    gizmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    Star Lord wrote: »
    This is all getting away from the OP's death wish against Nintendo though.
    Yea, let's get back to Nintendo missing out on the utter cash cow that was the SNES version of the MEGA-CD. :pac:


  • #44
    K.O.Kiki
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,939 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    calex71 wrote: »
    The selfish man in me actually wishes they did have a death wish , so they fold and do a sega and start publishing their IP's on the other systems. They have many games at the minute that I watch with a jealous eye and an empty wallet :(

    Sell your overpriced underpowered console-PC-thing with no games. :pac:


  • #45
    chopperbyrne
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,093 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    I waited until the Xbox One and PS4 were out for a year before deciding which one to buy.

    I bought a Wii U.

    It's games library is just so much better than the competition at the moment.


  • #46
    abbir
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 773 ✭✭✭abbir


    Captain Chaos wrote: »
    It sure did but it didn't shift even a fraction of the games that the other two did.

    Yea, Mario Kart Wii and New Super Mario Bros Wii sold very poorly.


  • #47
    johnny_ultimate
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,340 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    I am losing track of which posts are serious and which are sarcastic here.


  • #48
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    Captain Chaos wrote: »
    It sure did but it didn't shift even a fraction of the games that the other two did.

    As far as I can tell, more Wii were bought than Xbox360 and PS3 games combined which wouldn't too shabby.

    Total Wii Games Sold: 905,270,000
    Total XBox 360 Games Sold: 384,000,000
    Total PlayStation 3 games sold: 375,300,000

    http://www.statisticbrain.com/xbox-statistics/
    http://www.statisticbrain.com/playstation-statistics/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii


  • #49
    CiDeRmAn
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,729 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    johnny_ultimate wrote: »
    I am losing track of which posts are serious and which are sarcastic here.

    I'm sorry, was that statement itself serious or sarcastic?
    Or, perhaps you were aiming for facetious?
    I'm confused, I think I may lie down.
    [sarcasm] Lie down and die, just like Nintendo and their business plan [/sarcasm]


  • #50
    The_Valeyard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    I'm sorry, but looking at some of these posts I feel I am 8 years old in primary school arguing in the yard debate over snes v megadrive.


  • #51
    chopperbyrne
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,093 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    The_Valeyard wrote: »
    I'm sorry, but looking at some of these posts I feel I am 8 years old in primary school arguing in the yard debate over snes v megadrive.

    SNES rules.

    To be this good takes Odnetnin!


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